Thanks to my broken TPS, i idle at 2500+rpm, and when i let off the breaks, i spin tires, and when i step on the gas....i beat semi modded LS-1's :)

on the way to take her to the shop, some jerkoff in an ls1 camaro decided it would be a good idea to try to race me....i guess not.

Dude I think it was a V6 with badging. There is no way in he ll that you could beat a LS1 with a stock Mark. My cousin had one and I raced him the very first night I ever went 14.60@97mph at Atco, he went 13.88 spinning the tires and all he had was an exhaust.

An LS-1 would have eaten you alive. It was a v-6.

An LS-1 would have eaten you alive. It was a v-6.
:iconcur: I watch Horsepower TV on Spike TV on the weekend, They brought in a 98 Camaro Z-28 LS1. They dynoed the car before their mods, and it read 300+ hp

MrWilson you're one funny dude. I look cross eyed at almost every post you make. You really think a Mark 8 can beat any LS1 car?

LOL, no way in hell did you beat an LS1 in a stock mark.

all i know is it had an LS1 painted on the bottom of the door, like the IROC used to be....but your prolly right, it woulda had to be a v6 or mabey an lt1. But i tell ya, i was spinnin tires when i let off the break with that Throttle positioning sensor outa wack.

even an LT1 would rip you a hole. I raced a friend of mine's 93 formula and he had 3 cars on me through first.

even an LT1 would rip you a hole. I raced a friend of mine's 93 formula and he had 3 cars on me through first.


Lt1's are MONSTERS down low, and will still handle a mark up top. The LS1 would have handed your Ass to you from a standstill, and top end also. That 3rd gear pull out on the highway is AWESOME.

It was either a v-6, or the guy was'nt racing,(you just mistook it) :)

a newer v6 with a 5spd would run right with a mark viii also.

Congradulations Mr. Wilson, if you said you beat a LS1, then you beat it.. No one else was there but you.. So Thanks for KICKIN some A$$ and takin name for the LvC!!!

lol, well, i dont know what happened anymore....im confused. it was definatly a race, cuz he was trying to get infront of me at one of them lights where you got 3 lanes on one sode of the light, and 2 on the other. but, i realy feel silly if it was some riceboy in a v6 hehe. it sounded like a v8, but them camaro v6's do sound like v8's sometimes. so w/e

a bad driver can give yu a win no matter what car they're in........ might have really been an LS1, with a 6 speed and sum kid who cant drive stick lol. it happens. I have hung with a few stock LT1's though myself . And the older 3rd gen camaros are a joke against a mark viii, and i know this cuz i owned a few. Either way, a wins and win.

v6 hell you would know, I race alot and I raced a 2000 v6 camaro and man I didnt even have to floor it and I beat the punk ass by hella lot but i think he gave up after i blew his doors off.

I know they put vette engines in those old ss impala's......i bet we could take them...
go svt :]

I know they put vette engines in those old ss impala's......i bet we could take them...
go svt :]

better yet, they but em in the buick roadmasters too...they were sleepers and a half

impala ss arent :q:q:q:q

I know they put vette engines in those old ss impala's......i bet we could take them...
go svt :]




*Slams head on the desk* "vette engines" :) As a former 4th gen Z28 owner, I can tell you that they get tired of hearing "hey that things got one of them Vette engines in em." Not ragging on ya, just giving a heads up.

And those impy's are'nt to be taken lightly, anything you can do to a Z28/Trans Am/Vette, you can do to them.

Sorry if i offended your chevy side. when i hear ls1...i think vette 1st. I certainly don't take those ss's lightly...I've driven one......they are fun....I was just trying to give this thread some hope for our mark's taking one of those "vette" engines....(I did it again)......haha

Sorry if i offended your chevy side. when i hear ls1...i think vette 1st. I certainly don't take those ss's lightly...I've driven one......they are fun....I was just trying to give this thread some hope for our mark's taking one of those "vette" engines....(I did it again)......haha


No offense taken....just letting you know. If your ever at a car show, or see one, you know what not to say. :)

impala ss arent :q:q:q:q

:I easy kills..... stock vs. stock. i raced one over in philly, both spun off the line and i ended up about a car length ahead.

oops

Sorry if i offended your chevy side. when i hear ls1...i think vette 1st. I certainly don't take those ss's lightly...I've driven one......they are fun....I was just trying to give this thread some hope for our mark's taking one of those "vette" engines....(I did it again)......haha

the one to realy be affraid of, is the joker who surprises the S outa everyone, and takes grandmas Buick roadmaster to the shop, gets a shift kit in there, burns the chip to change the shift points, and smokes your face off at the light. Be weary of them, theres a nasty one arround here. I think hes running 14.5's basicly stock.

well im running 14.4 and if i get a chip i should be doing hella better because I got a nasty a/f ratio

ok not that I'm the biggest expert in the world on these cars, but my last 2 cars before this Mark VIII was a 1997 T/A with the LT1 engine and my last one was a 99 T/A with an LS1 in it. Now there is a huge difference in speed btwn my LS1 and LT1. My LS1 would run 13.4's bone stock and my LT1 had tons of mods on it and only ran a personal best of 14.2. I could see you getting close to an LT1 stock for stock, but my 99 LS1 could not be touched by anything on the road except the very high priced sportscars like a porshe 911 turbo and once got beat by a AMG, but that's the only 2 cars that ever even came close to me besides the same engined cars and Me like the LS1 z28's and T/A's. That car was crazy fast! It would turn sideways on a second gear scratch with the traction control on. But it also cost me $400/month in car payments :)

ok not that I'm the biggest expert in the world on these cars, but my last 2 cars before this Mark VIII was a 1997 T/A with the LT1 engine and my last one was a 99 T/A with an LS1 in it. Now there is a huge difference in speed btwn my LS1 and LT1. My LS1 would run 13.4's bone stock and my LT1 had tons of mods on it and only ran a personal best of 14.2. I could see you getting close to an LT1 stock for stock, but my 99 LS1 could not be touched by anything on the road except the very high priced sportscars like a porshe 911 turbo and once got beat by a AMG, but that's the only 2 cars that ever even came close to me besides the same engined cars and Me like the LS1 z28's and T/A's. That car was crazy fast! It would turn sideways on a second gear scratch with the traction control on. But it also cost me $400/month in car payments :)

He speaks the truth, LS1 is hella fast but the LT1 is a POS, but I mean he didnt race any 5.0s if he never got beat in the LS1.

He speaks the truth, LS1 is hella fast but the LT1 is a POS, but I mean he didnt race any 5.0s if he never got beat in the LS1.
please tell me your joking about 5.0's beating LS1's. I've raced every single mustang GT, Cobra u could think of except the 04' supercharged stangs because they are very rare around here, but I would beat them like a red-headed step-child. Wasn't even close!

please tell me your joking about 5.0's beating LS1's. I've raced every single mustang GT, Cobra u could think of except the 04' supercharged stangs because they are very rare around here, but I would beat them like a red-headed step-child. Wasn't even close!
here's what it looked like:

well im from the chicagoland area so street racing is big here 12 sec stangs every where

well im from the chicagoland area so street racing is big here 12 sec stangs every where
wow, that is a huge difference! At the track here, they have stangs that have about $5000 invested in them and still only run 13's, it's pretty sad

The Lt1 is a POS? Ha!!!


Why do you think this? the Lt1 is one of the best sounding, Best performing small block chevy ever made. Yea, they have some typical problems, like the Optispark, and a common intake oil leak. BUT, the engine pulls like a bastard fron idle, and can cruise all day long at 25 MPG.

The mark has just as many, if not more common problems. I used to own a 97 Z28, that would turn 13.7-13.9 all day stock. After the 383 went in I was running 11.6-11.9's I could have had alot more, but I was running stock suspension, and stock gears.

The lt1 is ALOT easier to mod for power than the 4.6L...........Eh' I've been in the garage all day long, I need a shower so I'll wrap this up. The LT1 is one hell of an engine, and VERY potent with the right person turning the wrenches.



Mike

couldent agree more! i used to be all ford but i have been hanging out with f-body guys alot lately, cuz all the ford guys around here are pusssys, and im starting to like those motors.

this is my frind JB with his 69 its not an ls1 or lt1 but it will still rape any one here. i was in it when he raced some one. all i can say is wow
http://www.ermca.com/videos/ermca-69dyno.wmv
490 BB NA 850 CFM vary mild cam 700R4, reverse valve body, 3000 stall, 12 bolt rear with 3.73:1

The Lt1 is a POS? Ha!!!


Why do you think this? the Lt1 is one of the best sounding, Best performing small block chevy ever made. Yea, they have some typical problems, like the Optispark, and a common intake oil leak. BUT, the engine pulls like a bastard fron idle, and can cruise all day long at 25 MPG.

The mark has just as many, if not more common problems. I used to own a 97 Z28, that would turn 13.7-13.9 all day stock. After the 383 went in I was running 11.6-11.9's I could have had alot more, but I was running stock suspension, and stock gears.

The lt1 is ALOT easier to mod for power than the 4.6L...........Eh' I've been in the garage all day long, I need a shower so I'll wrap this up. The LT1 is one hell of an engine, and VERY potent with the right person turning the wrenches.



Mike
Yeah the LT1 motor is not a POS by any means, just not as "factory fast" as an LS1, but never had any problems with either one

thanks,
scott

couldent agree more! i used to be all ford but i have been hanging out with f-body guys alot lately, cuz all the ford guys around here are pusssys, and im starting to like those motors.

this is my frind JB with his 69 its not an ls1 or lt1 but it will still rape any one here. i was in it when he raced some one. all i can say is wow
http://www.ermca.com/videos/ermca-69dyno.wmv
490 BB NA 850 CFM vary mild cam 700R4, reverse valve body, 3000 stall, 12 bolt rear with 3.73:1

Holy :q Holy :q Holy :q Holy :q Holy :q ! Wow man that was awesome. Hell I jumped backed when that kat laid it down. Man the strain that put on the arrestor straps. You see the back tires changing form under the pressure.

please tell me your joking about 5.0's beating LS1's. I've raced every single mustang GT, Cobra u could think of except the 04' supercharged stangs because they are very rare around here, but I would beat them like a red-headed step-child. Wasn't even close!

I have an AOD 90 LX and am 4-0 versus LS-1's :Beer Of course I am not close to stock either, but I didn't have a power adder for any of the races. I have a 150 wet shot waiting to go on, I just have to get the wrecked Mark out of my Mustangs garage space.

Holy :q Holy :q Holy :q Holy :q Holy :q ! Wow man that was awesome. Hell I jumped backed when that kat laid it down. Man the strain that put on the arrestor straps. You see the back tires changing form under the pressure.
try rideing in it ! :N ! all NA too about a mid 11 sec car, the one time we where at the track he snaped the axel off the line it was so cool!

Eh, well thats a camaro, so i dont blame it for pulling that little power. If you want a real F body car, the 73 455 Super Duty was where it was at. 380hp, and 400 lb ft...for a car in 73. That motor is so restricted by emmisions, that if you decided to rip out all the factory emmisions passing crap, and replaced the heads, intake, and exhaust to better flowing stuff, for about $6000 you can jump that beast up to almost 550-600 rwhp, and 600-625 lb RwLb-ft. The 400 block is just as potent, cept they wont pull those kind of numbers, yet they will be much cheeper to mod. Heck, just by changing the exhaust to 3" TDE with hooker headers, you can make another 50hp. Pontiacs rock, im sorry...they do.

Im not here to say the LT1s can't be fast but I spank them on the street all the time and I know for a fact they dont pull hard from low end either does the LS1. every time I race an LS1 I stay with him til 2nd and it starts pulling away. theres alot that can be done to the 4.6 just not in these lincoln cause they are friggin huge. :Beer

lt1 are known for low end tq, thats why there so awsome cuz they have tq all along the power curve.

well im from the chicagoland area so street racing is big here 12 sec stangs every where


Brad, you HAVE to come out to Chicago, by my house, one of these weekends when it's nice. You will have one hell of a time.

I am prolly going cruisin' tonight with about 10 Cobra's, GT's, and couple LS1's. Couple of my buddies have some 03' GT's and Cobra's, their starting up a nice car club around the Chicagoland area, just for cruisin', BS'in about cars, going to meets, etc..

It's rediculous how many Stang's, trans-am's, and Camaro's are out here. As well as the hilarious imports and serious Evo's/WRX STI's.

I'll hit you up soon... This weekends supposed to be pretty nice out. We'll just have to see.

v6 hell you would know, I race alot and I raced a 2000 v6 camaro and man I didnt even have to floor it and I beat the punk ass by hella lot but i think he gave up after i blew his doors off.
hell fing ya finely somone who likes to street race!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Its nice out now, Ill be looking for you as rosebud aka: 175th st
South side Chitown
Hint: bring cash, $50s and $100 are the onely bills you need

the one to realy be affraid of, is the joker who surprises the S outa everyone, and takes grandmas Buick roadmaster to the shop, gets a shift kit in there, burns the chip to change the shift points, and smokes your face off at the light. Be weary of them, theres a nasty one arround here. I think hes running 14.5's basicly stock.i've seen that at atco , it has some form of exhaust also , big ass sleeper

I would love to make the ride up to chi town but my air ride is fuked up, but hey I just placed an order for some nitrous. just seconds ago so if my sturt comes in and NOS as well hell ya I will bring cash. but I really aint going to need it. keep this secret and together we can scam them all downtown. :Beer :nos: *owned*

hey jon im up for it, gimme a bit ok i got to sort some thing out and get my car running stronger.

hey jon im up for it, gimme a bit ok i got to sort some thing out and get my car running stronger.
hell ya I'm sick of husling, we could just roll up and show every one why lincoln's are the sh it.
hell ya this summer we are going to make some real money!!!!
Iv seen it all there racing for slips, a few G's, shoting, and even seen a race for an OZ of weed and a not 1/2 bad pice of pussy.
How far are you from chitown?

im 45mins away and 30 if i want to haul

lt1 are known for low end tq, thats why there so awsome cuz they have tq all along the power curve.
exactly! Someone doesn't know about LT1 or LS1 engines if you think they have no low end torque :)hahahhahah. BOth cars had crazy low-end torque, just the LS1 was way better off the line than the LT1 engine

LT1=turd, if low end is to have a 4000 pound lincoln with only 281ci right beside you through first and a little through second then I guess you have low end.

LT1=turd, if low end is to have a 4000 pound lincoln with only 281ci right beside you through first and a little through second then I guess you have low end.
hahahaha, quit dreaming. U must of raced some v6's with badges on them, because there wasn't a stang on the streets of okc that could hang with my LT1, let a lone a 4000lbs mark VIII, trust me on that one.

try rideing in it ! :N ! all NA too about a mid 11 sec car, the one time we where at the track he snaped the axel off the line it was so cool!


I have a friend with a 98 cobra that is tuned pretty nicely. He let me take it out one day and it gave me such a rush when I hit the gas and rode it out that I got nauseous. It really takes a lot of skill to hold that kind of power steady.

LT1=turd, if low end is to have a 4000 pound lincoln with only 281ci right beside you through first and a little through second then I guess you have low end.



Where in Illinois are you located? I'd like to come down and see you keep with me from the get go. My buddy has a 97 6-Speed Z, He told me If I trade him my 95 I can have the z for a week. :)

Where in Illinois are you located? I'd like to come down and see you keep with me from the get go. My buddy has a 97 6-Speed Z, He told me If I trade him my 95 I can have the z for a week. :)
take him up on the offer , i would

all i know is it had an LS1 painted on the bottom of the door, like the IROC used to be....but your prolly right, it woulda had to be a v6 or mabey an lt1. But i tell ya, i was spinnin tires when i let off the break with that Throttle positioning sensor outa wack.

Was it finger painting..........lol

Im up for the offer, i wish my bro didnt destroy my video camera, because I have all these track videos, theres a couple were I would stay dead even with the LS1 we had the same 60 ft times and even are 1/8 was hella close. but ya whatever, Im in joliet. let me put the hooks on my car and we will see. Now im only trying to stay even through 1st and little bit in 2nd so what happens when i roast ya. :waving:

Brad, what was your last E.T. without any BS correction factors ?

14.4 @ 98 some nights however it runs better and im sure it runs faster to now that I got a new o2 as well as new plugs because I had :q:q:q:qy bosch plat 2s oh and i take out the 200 pounds on garbage in my trunk

I just ran 15.4's out at Thunder Valley here in OKC last night with 200,000mi on the odo and totally stock. Just did a few runs for a baseline. Next few mods will be pulleys and a cold air unit.

Hey SHO89MTX, PM me and lets talk Marks sometime. I live just North of Norman. Later.

Ok, guys,

I traded my mark viii a while back, but was wondering what the factory gear ratio was in the rear end...

Oh, yea, I now own a 96 Impala SS, With a few tricks in the works...so watch out!

BTW: This has been a very interesting post to read! I must say from now owning both cars, they are very well matched as far as the fun level, although i do miss my mark.

Peace out!

Non LSC Models had 3.07 and LSC's had 3.27. A stock Mark will destroy an Impala SS.

:i

Non LSC Models had 3.07 and LSC's had 3.27. A stock Mark will destroy an Impala SS.
oh heck yeah they will! Wouldn't even be a close race. I would not compare an impalla SS to a t/a or Z28 just because they have the same engine, because that's a way heavier car with 2 extra doors. I used to beat impalla ss's in my 4 door ford taurus SHO! it would be a complete waste of gas to race them in any of my t/a's :steering

LT1 Camaros and Trans Ams are fast. I raced one with exhaust, cold air intake and crank pulley, it was an auto and he pulled on me about 1 1/2 car up to 90mph. He just left me off the line but after we got going he wasn't pulling anymore. Remember I have run a 14.3 before. I think if my car had trac-loc it would be even but don't underestimate the LT1. I have seen some run 15's at the track but their engine probably needed a big tune up. As for LS1's go don't even think about it unless you are spraying.

oh heck yeah they will! Wouldn't even be a close race. I would not compare an impalla SS to a t/a or Z28 just because they have the same engine, because that's a way heavier car with 2 extra doors. I used to beat impalla ss's in my 4 door ford taurus SHO! it would be a complete waste of gas to race them in any of my t/a's :steering

Exception being that the LT-1 in the Fbody has aluminum heads and more HP than the Impy. Most of the 9C1 caprices have been beat to death in service and have lost a step or two as well.

LT1 Camaros and Trans Ams are fast. I raced one with exhaust, cold air intake and crank pulley, it was an auto and he pulled on me about 1 1/2 car up to 90mph. He just left me off the line but after we got going he wasn't pulling anymore. Remember I have run a 14.3 before. I think if my car had trac-loc it would be even but don't underestimate the LT1. I have seen some run 15's at the track but their engine probably needed a big tune up. As for LS1's go don't even think about it unless you are spraying.
a LT1 running 15's? I was in a local car club of f-bodies and we had about 140 f-bodies(lt1's and LS1 cars)and the slowest time anyone ever ran was in a LT1 ant that was a 14.4 with bald tires. that guy either really didn't know how to drive his car or had a v6 with all the trim of a t/a, they do that a lot around here where they buy a v6, change out the wing, add dual exhaust and put t/a badges so people think they have a V8

a LT1 running 15's? I was in a local car club of f-bodies and we had about 140 f-bodies(lt1's and LS1 cars)and the slowest time anyone ever ran was in a LT1 ant that was a 14.4 with bald tires. that guy either really didn't know how to drive his car or had a v6 with all the trim of a t/a, they do that a lot around here where they buy a v6, change out the wing, add dual exhaust and put t/a badges so people think they have a V8

I've seen some sad times here as well, there was a 2.73 geared A-4 only trapping 93 in the very high 14's all night long last summer at a test and tune at 131.

I've seen some sad times here as well, there was a 2.73 geared A-4 only trapping 93 in the very high 14's all night long last summer at a test and tune at 131.
2.73 A4's? That's a Z28, t/a's only have two options, 3.23's and 3.42 for the 6 speed. I had a 3.23's in both of my A4's

The Z28 I raced had the 3.23 auto, makes a big difference off the line.

2.73 A4's? That's a Z28, t/a's only have two options, 3.23's and 3.42 for the 6 speed. I had a 3.23's in both of my A4's


Yea....2.73's were availible in the autos.

Yea....2.73's were availible in the autos.
I know the z28's had that option, but thought t/a's came stock with 3.23's or 3.42's. Where u getting your info on that? I'm curious

I know the z28's had that option, but thought t/a's came stock with 3.23's or 3.42's. Where u getting your info on that? I'm curious



When you've been into F-Bodies since you can remember, and been a member of a 50,000+ Member message board, you pick a few things up. :)


Check out, www.camaroz28.com


Do a search for "trans am 2.73"


Mike

When you've been into F-Bodies since you can remember, and been a member of a 50,000+ Member message board, you pick a few things up. :)


Check out, www.camaroz28.com


Do a search for "trans am 2.73"


Mike
well i'll have to take your word for it, because U can't search for anything without being a member and don't want to register. It's odd though because out of all my friends in the car club, the only ones that had 2.73's were my Z28 friends and that was out of a lot of people. Must not of sold many 2.73 geared t/a's here in oklahoma.....we wanted more power

In 4th gen F-bodies, all the auto's came standard 2.73, with 3.23 as an option, then all the 6-speeds had 3.42's.

In 4th gen F-bodies, all the auto's came standard 2.73, with 3.23 as an option, then all the 6-speeds had 3.42's.
u sure? because t/a's were basically the optioned-up z28's. Meaning U couldn't by a 97 or 99 t/a(the ones I owned)with cloth seats, no power everything, no cd player etc)those all came standard, but the Z28's didn't come up with any options, everything cost extra that why they were a lot cheaper than t/a's?

In 4th gen F-bodies, all the auto's came standard 2.73, with 3.23 as an option, then all the 6-speeds had 3.42's.


He's right.

Speaking of Mr. Wilson? Where has he been?

Hay, man iv been busy as anything. New woman in my life, buckleing down for the last month of school, and prom insanity this last week. Its good to be back though!

OOOOOOOOOOOoooooooooooooooooohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh Mr. WilsonNNNNnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn!!!!!!!!

Where were ya'? YOU MISSED OUT ON THE 1ST.

I KNOW! DARNIT! Well, my grandmother died, so i wasnt able to make it. But, im back now, so next time....btw, when is the next time

I KNOW! DARNIT! Well, my grandmother died, so i wasnt able to make it. But, im back now, so next time....btw, when is the next time

DAMN Dude, sory to hear that. My condolences. I have no idea when the next time is.

DAMN Dude, sory to hear that. My condolences. I have no idea when the next time is.

awww, thanks man... but, back to life now, eh?

:bsflag:


Ok, to put this to rest, i own a 98 camaro SS (LS1) M6 car. NO F(CKING WAY DID YOU BEAT AN LS1 CAR. Sorry. LS1's dyno 290-310 at the wheels. With minor bolt ons they run 12's. They are great motors and not much can touch them. A simple head/cam swap and exhaust and your way into the 12's/11's depending on cam. My car ran 12.8 with crappy tires.


As far as a stang beating a LS1, not unless its an 03+ cobra. Stangs dont make much hp (gt) and you have to do gear work, full exhaust etc. to even be on the same field as a stock ls1. Fox bodie stangs have a good aftermarket support which is why they can be made fast for cheap but even still they look like an escourt. After 92 the 5.0 motor turned to crap.

Wow, Talk about pulling a thread back from the dead.




Mike

I beat an evo in hot weather. I saw him racing some slow hondas so i pulled up next to him and raced and won. Soooo........ I heard something about the turbo's getting heat soaked and therefore being less efficient.

I beat an evo in hot weather. I saw him racing some slow hondas so i pulled up next to him and raced and won. Soooo........ I heard something about the turbo's getting heat soaked and therefore being less efficient.
I have a little stang that just passed inspection, and is a daily driver, and I'll race any LT1, LS1, LS2, :iconcur: and that isn't even the stang i take to the track, but it runs 5.83's in the 1/8th :Beer not sure what the 1/4 is but i know it would be quick. http://www.silverwestlimo.com/000_0315.MOV

Nice fvcking Stang! :gr_devil:

I have a little stang that just passed inspection, and is a daily driver, and I'll race any LT1, LS1, LS2, :iconcur: and that isn't even the stang i take to the track, but it runs 5.83's in the 1/8th :Beer not sure what the 1/4 is but i know it would be quick. http://www.silverwestlimo.com/000_0315.MOV
oh yea, and if an LS1, etc wants to race at the track... i'll put my 95 mustang turbo charged 347 stroker against anything :). ran 4.248 last week in the 1/8. hope to run it in the 1/4 soon.

Oh man sweet! You should be a good run at our Local Quick 8 series, we have some seriously freakishly Evil Stangs here in NJ. Where are you located?

Your Car is hot, any more pics? What turbo and intercooler set up are you running.

http://www.lincolnmotorsport.com/q827.jpg

the paint is a little crappy, but she will run :) im using a Garrett OEM: 23507909 turbo pic (http://www.mwfi.com/dieselPage/ddTurboLrg.jpg)
(same turbo that is used for the Detroit 60 series). running 120lb injectors custom by "street and performanc electronics", I'm not running an inner-cooler :) and the computer system is stand alone through my POS Compaq with win 98 on it :Beer. I live in Fort Worth Texas BTW. have pretty much only raced locally. I like the look of the orange stang you posted.. its nice :) i have a snap-on paint booth, but haven't really had much time to dick with my cars right now. Between my wife, kid, and work i don't have much time to do dick anymore :( maybe someday though hehe. but for now my cars are just gonna collect dust in the ole shop :Beer.

WOW between a Wife, child and work I have no idea how you have time to post on here? Nice set up. Id love to see this thing on the top half, she will pull like a freight train. You ever run a big turbo car in a full 1/4 mile pass?

Heres a few more of that Pearl Orange Metallic paint, paint is so sick, you cant relly see it in the photos.

http://www.lincolnmotorsport.com/q825.jpg

http://www.lincolnmotorsport.com/q826.jpg

http://www.lincolnmotorsport.com/q835.jpg

http://www.lincolnmotorsport.com/q837.jpg

my wife is going to school right now, so she is busy with that (which is kinda nice lol). and my kid is always with the nanny. plus i work alot at the office at night when no one is around, so every second i have im on here lol, and i stay logged in all the time. to answer your question i know this is kinda retarded, but no the car has never made one single pass on a 1/4 mile track. honestly to tell you the truth the car scares me alot.. the paint sucks do to me almost dieing in it when it caught on fire last year :) my black stang i have (the pics i posted above) are about the area im looking to stay in. kinda why i bought the both the mk8's just mess around with. the wife really... really hates it when i go to the track. she likes to make those ever so sweetly comments about your gonna die, and your baby girls isn't gonna have a daddy hehe. so now that every knows my whole life story lol, except for what i do for a living. i would just rather pay someone to run the car if that was going to be my goal.

Well guy different places are going to get you different results...Im in flagstaff arizona where our base elevation is 7000ft nothing runs quick here...you lose 30% hp up here and very few cars can spin'em up here unless your really modded.. neiter my 93 nor my mom's 97 will break them lose at all unless its wet. LOL But In Phoenix you can spin then all day. so just to show you every city is different.

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Mike

wow, that is a huge difference! At the track here, they have stangs that have about $5000 invested in them and still only run 13's, it's pretty sad

Man, you need to get out more. Just because you go to Thunder Valley and watch tuner night, doesn't mean you get a good representation of what is driving around in OK. Go up to Guthrie some time and check it out. There are some bad *** Mustangs driving around.

Just some FYI.

Bluesman

Eh, well thats a camaro, so i dont blame it for pulling that little power. If you want a real F body car, the 73 455 Super Duty was where it was at. 380hp, and 400 lb ft...for a car in 73. That motor is so restricted by emmisions, that if you decided to rip out all the factory emmisions passing crap, and replaced the heads, intake, and exhaust to better flowing stuff, for about $6000 you can jump that beast up to almost 550-600 rwhp, and 600-625 lb RwLb-ft. The 400 block is just as potent, cept they wont pull those kind of numbers, yet they will be much cheeper to mod. Heck, just by changing the exhaust to 3" TDE with hooker headers, you can make another 50hp. Pontiacs rock, im sorry...they do.


Yeah, I'll have to agree. I've got a 73 Bonneville with a 400 in it. Raced many a person and beat them every time. I raced an 1st gen Camaro for ten miles on the highway one time at speeds between 80 and 120. I'd let him pull ahead and then I'd foor it, smoke past him, and do it all again. Not bad for a 4800lb car with a weazer emissions motor. I've also had that car to 120mph with seven people in it. I did some pretty stupid things growing up, but hell, I think we all did!!! Oh well, at least I have done some stuff.

Sorry guys, just a little rant on Pontiacs. They are bad to bone and pure mean. So you have to spend a little more, that's what we're doing with our MarkVIII's, right? I know my MarkVIII is my replacement for my Bonnie until I can afford the ground up on her.

As long as it's American, it's cool!

Ok guys a few things let yous know here.....I have a bunch of friends that are 4th gen f body nuts....so i know these cars and are around them....first of all...there is NO WAY IN HELL a V6 will hang with a mark VIII....my buddy has a 99 3.8 v6 with headers, cat back, computer tuning and 3.73's and I SPANK him with my bone stock 95 mark 8.......as for the ls1's cars.....I 3 buddies with them..all automatics... 1 has a 2000 camaro SS that ran 13.1 with cat back and cold air package, 1 has a 98 ws6 that ran 13.2 and another has a 2000 firehawk that ran 13.0, he has cat back, cold air, trans go shift kit and the car is computer tuned...now...I LOVE my mark....but it won't beat them in a drag race.........BUT...I've raced all 3 of them at 35 mph and beat all 3 up to about 70mph.....see the mark will drops to first gear till about 40mph...anything over 30 the ls1 will stay in second......so if you guys know someone with an ls1 car and wanna suprise them....take a run from 35mph....they will be defenitely suprised.....I've done it to all 3 of the cars listed and multiple times...just to make sure its not a fluke....

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Originally Posted by MrWilson
Eh, well thats a camaro, so i dont blame it for pulling that little power. If you want a real F body car, the 73 455 Super Duty was where it was at. 380hp, and 400 lb ft...for a car in 73. That motor is so restricted by emmisions, that if you decided to rip out all the factory emmisions passing crap, and replaced the heads, intake, and exhaust to better flowing stuff, for about $6000 you can jump that beast up to almost 550-600 rwhp, and 600-625 lb RwLb-ft. The 400 block is just as potent, cept they wont pull those kind of numbers, yet they will be much cheeper to mod. Heck, just by changing the exhaust to 3" TDE with hooker headers, you can make another 50hp. Pontiacs rock, im sorry...they do.





I agree....I'm considered to be a trader in our family for driving a ford product....my dad has always had pontiacs..73 SD-455 trans am, 71 455 ho formula, 74 SD 455 trans am, 75 formula 400 4spd. I'm always catching stuff for having the ford...and there's nothing I can say b/c they will all clean my clock in the lincoln... but then again there's no replacement for displacement

BUMP lol

I know how you feel, Rich. My family is all GM... my dad's always owned GM (his baby is a '68 Camaro- very fast) and when I bought my '67 Cougar he said "I thought I raised you better than that". Haha and you should have seen the look on his face when I took out an $8000 loan to build a race motor for it! I can't wait to see what he says when I start throwing the money at my Mark.

p.s. as for there being no replacement for displacement... normally I would agree. But today I trounced my dad in my 4.6 Mark when he tried racing me in his 5.9 Durango. I think I was more suprised than he was.

I know how you feel, Rich. My family is all GM... my dad's always owned GM (his baby is a '68 Camaro- very fast) and when I bought my '67 Cougar he said "I thought I raised you better than that". Haha and you should have seen the look on his face when I took out an $8000 loan to build a race motor for it! I can't wait to see what he says when I start throwing the money at my Mark.

p.s. as for there being no replacement for displacement... normally I would agree. But today I trounced my dad in my 4.6 Mark when he tried racing me in his 5.9 Duranhere?go. I think I was more suprised than he was.
If you are all GM, why are you here? :thread:

I was/Kinda still am GM. I only got into the marks because of my parents buying one when I was still in school.


Every car I have owned prior to the marks, has been GM.


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Mike

I've never been GM and never will be.my first car had a 1970 429 4 barrel 10:1 compression. FORD always for me, thats all I know.

please tell me your joking about 5.0's beating LS1's. I've raced every single mustang GT, Cobra u could think of except the 04' supercharged stangs because they are very rare around here, but I would beat them like a red-headed step-child. Wasn't even close!

LS1 F body is a very quick car that lends itself to mods very well. A C-5 Corvette is even quicker. I have a ton of respect for those cars. As a matter of fact, if you were running 13.40's, you have a very slow LS1 for what's out there. But to say you could out run everything but exotic sports cars is ludicrous. My old 89 5.0 ran 12's. My 04 Cobra runs 11's. Hell, I can think of a half a dozen ricers that would absolutely embarass you with that kind of performance. Every seen a 9 second Supra...or even a low 12 second or better SRT4? Tons of 'em. Well, maybe not a lot of 9 second Supras...but a lot that run 10's.

I can't believe I even responded to that.

LS1 F body is a very quick car that lends itself to mods very well. A C-5 Corvette is even quicker. I have a ton of respect for those cars. As a matter of fact, if you were running 13.40's, you have a very slow LS1 for what's out there. But to say you could out run everything but exotic sports cars is ludicrous. My old 89 5.0 ran 12's. My 04 Cobra runs 11's. Hell, I can think of a half a dozen ricers that would absolutely embarass you with that kind of performance. Every seen a 9 second Supra...or even a low 12 second or better SRT4? Tons of 'em. Well, maybe not a lot of 9 second Supras...but a lot that run 10's.

I can't believe I even responded to that.



ok.

He did beat it, I was the the camaro had the hit and every thing, the only thing was that it was on a trailer getting pulled be a v6 S10 which he barely beat

dude any ls1 would have murdered you and made you want to bang your mom, post count gets higher.

F that broke ass GM , I've own 2 GM's 78 Ols Gutless and a chevete.

He did beat it, I was the the camaro had the hit and every thing, the only thing was that it was on a trailer getting pulled be a v6 S10 which he barely beat

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F that broke ass GM , I've own 2 GM's 78 Ols Gutless and a chevete.


Hmmm....not sure I would call either of those automobiles........

BAD thread must DIIIIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!

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I have killed this thread once already. I left it open after the forum reboot, because I thought we could give it a second chance.


If we keep getting the "kill this thread" responses, i'll do it. We can still discuss this (no matter how unlikely), and have a good time doing it.



Mike

I have killed this thread once already. I left it open after the forum reboot, because I thought we could give it a second chance.


If we keep getting the "kill this thread" responses, i'll do it. We can still discuss this (no matter how unlikely), and have a good time doing it.



Mike

Lol, even I say, KILL THIS THREAD!

no its funny thread, spare its life, just walk away it will disappear