This is the official thread for the Stack Mark Murder Mark.... or S&M for short :D

So I pulled into the shop on better terms now getting over the shock/awe/pissed/terrible experience of his stuff getting jacked..

First on the list is the fuel filler door shave and relocation.

so what are the plans for this beast

Sillyness... pure crazy sillyness...

So, the fuel filler is going behind the light? Interesting...

cant wait to see how this turns out.

I'm interested in seeing how this is going to work and look.

Are you guys building a mid engine mark? that would be so sick and my dream to do one day. throwing a GT40 trans and a GT500 engine in a mark would be ridiculous!

I was going to give the full list of planned mods but I think I will let it be a surprise...

Are you guys building a mid engine mark? that would be so sick and my dream to do one day. throwing a GT40 trans and a GT500 engine in a mark would be ridiculous!

wouldn't it make more sense to use the drive line out of an Ford GT

back on topic looking good and can I have your shop I need one cause I live in an apartment with no garage

I know Ray had done that on the his 95 he used to have. Once I find the pics I'll show ya what it'll look like. I think it looks pretty cool.

So is the light going away or gonna pop out?

Im sure it will look stock and the light will swing out

5o's style filler hell yah. This is gonna be slick. Keep it comin.

I know Ray had done that on the his 95 he used to have. Once I find the pics I'll show ya what it'll look like. I think it looks pretty cool.

LOVED rays white mark, i remember ray changing the fill tube to the taillight looked wicked,
http://rides.webshots.com/photo/1077700025036756703xSDDuJ

I just wish I had a large garage where I could work on my cars like that ...

O no....its coming alive.......

Heh, I know what the list looks like! Looking good KK.

Should be an interesting thread.

Yeah I can't find that picture of the tail light actually opening? I know he took one, I saved it, I think it's saved to disc SOMEwhere..

Any word yet on anybody finding that car? Was white when he got rid of it, would like to know what happened to it.

I just wish I had a large garage where I could work on my cars like that ...

im ith you on that, a 10x20 storage unit sucks

doing everything i did in my 750 sq foot shop for 6 years seems impossible now that i have 2700 sq feet. i love being in my shop, even when there is nothing to do!!! i just make coffee and sweep up, just as fun as anything else in there, cuz its quiet!!!!

So I hurt my back really bad on Friday and then moved a pool table Saturday... so progress on Sunday was a little slow and painful :D

Need to tweak the fuel filler a wee bit for easier fit of the fuel fill nozzle... but so far it is looking pretty good!

The last pic is a teaser :D

I don't know if I mentioned KK but I had the best luck ridding of that seal w a carpet knife. You need a good hold cause when it slips, it's flyin!

oh no, he is hacking it to be a ranchero.... :yuck:

Yeah I can't find that picture of the tail light actually opening? I know he took one, I saved it, I think it's saved to disc SOMEwhere..

Any word yet on anybody finding that car? Was white when he got rid of it, would like to know what happened to it.
ive been trying to help jason find it, last we know is it was registered in TX, but without the VIN its a dead end
I know Ray had done that on the his 95 he used to have. Once I find the pics I'll show ya what it'll look like. I think it looks pretty cool.
ask and you shall receive

Thats gonna look good!

oh no, he is hacking it to be a ranchero.... :yuck:

LOL your probably right!

The tail light is going to fold the other way... I wanted to be able to open it without have to open the trunk.

damn good idea

Just came in the mail...

Make sure you install a remote button somewhere, and a pull in the trunk.

ive been trying to help jason find it, last we know is it was registered in TX, but without the VIN its a dead end


I remember where the shop was, that did alot of work on that car.

If it's the same car that wound up white with no rear tail light panel in the trunk.

whaaa? this is interesting.

It will get MUCH MUCH more interesting... trust me...

I remember where the shop was, that did alot of work on that car.

If it's the same car that wound up white with no rear tail light panel in the trunk.

Yep, you're right, he had some work done there. I think he told me he was still paying them off shortly before he passed.

Good thinking on the light swinging out KK. UP would be ideal probably, with a spring comparable to what pulls a door handle back down if you know what I mean, except pulling up instead. So it's not hanging in the breeze all vulnerable and stuff on a windy day with a plastic housing ya know?..
Ray hooked his light up to the fuel door release.

Once you finish the hidden door on this one, you are coming out to do mine, right?

thats it tommy heres the last pics of it i ever saw

and FYI ray even said he didnt like the outcome of the trunk

KK- Dude, you can have it swing like Ray did, just put a gas door type of hinge on it, so it comes out when it swings....

Lol sorry man, just thinking about it again is all.

The tail light WILL swing out, just in the opposite direction...

i don't like the look of the shaved trunk, looks like a bad case of herpes

The tail light WILL swing out, just in the opposite direction...

Right, I'm just saying you wouldn't have to do it that way, though it will look pretty neat.

So, Stack isn't around, and you're just going to town on his car, or? Lol

Not exactly... Stack is driving his winter beater, and I'm playing with the Mark... I should have been done with it about 2 months ago... but that didn't work out...

Not exactly... Stack is driving his winter beater, and I'm playing with the Mark... I should have been done with it about 2 months ago... but that didn't work out...

Wow. Well being that far behind, you're gonna haul ass to catch up! Which is great, looking forward to seeing frequent progress :)

Lol

I am excited to see your progress, progress! :D

I almost just f'd up and said something, whoa. I'll send a pm.

Not exactly... Stack is driving his winter beater, and I'm playing with the Mark... I should have been done with it about 2 months ago... but that didn't work out...

I owe it to the Kid to take all of this on...

There were some ambitious plans to throw my parts mountain at this car all at once but this summer just involved one set back after another...

I'm backing this financially, and when I can physically, while Kid does the build.

This car has been in the works for a LONG time for me... a few of you know the story and only a couple know everything

Its going to be Epic when its done and this is just a small first stage...

Brandon and I talk on a daily basis and once again I just want to thank him publicly for everything he has done and will do for the car :)

Thanks Kid!

And stay tuned folks cause you ain't seen nothing yet :D

The body mods are like phase .5 of about 5 major phases in the build...

I owe it to the Kid to take all of this on...

There were some ambitious plans to throw my parts mountain at this car all at once but this summer just involved one set back after another...

I'm backing this financially, and when I can physically, while Kid does the build.

This car has been in the works for a LONG time for me... a few of you know the story and only a couple know everything

Its going to be Epic when its done and this is just a small first stage...

Brandon and I talk on a daily basis and once again I just want to thank him publicly for everything he has done and will do for the car :)

Thanks Kid!

And stay tuned folks cause you ain't seen nothing yet :D

It sucks, no kidding.

One step forward, then three backwards.
Getting jacked was the topping on the cake.

Its in the right hands.

Are you getting the same rims?
Or thinking of something not so gehy? :D

Not getting the same rims...

And F U Kirk :P

Was never really a fan of the shaved look, but looks like you do good work. Good luck with the project, post your picts when you're done.

This car has been in the works for a LONG time for me... a few of you know the story

*raises hand ooooo ooo oo oo oooooo i know!
The body mods are like phase .5 of about 5 major phases in the build...

well hurry the fukk up kid!

well hurry the fukk up kid!

Exactly! :thread: :joke :D

So is it done yet? :p

how about now..........

Now?

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how about now, oh wait, i know it isnt, i'm holding you up, i have stacks rockers!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

now?

dammit jaimie always holdin :q:q:q:q up.

brandons http://www.lincolnvscadillac.com/images/statusicon/user_online.gif is off..so maybe he'll be finished in the morning

brandons http://www.lincolnvscadillac.com/images/statusicon/user_online.gif is off..so maybe he'll be finished in the morning

lol well he better have pics

HAHAHAHA... Guys I'm going to college right now and have a mid term this week... but there will be much work done this weekend...

oh WTF screw it drop out lolol

He won't drop out cause I won't let his ass...

What he does after he gets that degree is whatever but hes gonna finish what he started :P

And I need to pick up sheet metal tomorrow!

Lots of stuff should be done this weekend!

WOOHOO!

Lol @ Bill Ryan, Tommy .. Jamie

This thread's going to be 25 pages long by time he gets done!

Picking up Sheetmetal...

Wooohooo!!!

It will be a lot easier to start filling thing in with some actual metal!

He won't drop out cause I won't let his ass...

What he does after he gets that degree is whatever but hes gonna finish what he started :P

And I need to pick up sheet metal tomorrow!

Lots of stuff should be done this weekend!

WOOHOO!

ROFL...I can see you driving him to school, grabbing him by the ear, and making him go to class.

I found a pic. of what is going to look like.

http://www.carrentals.co.uk/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/08/batmobile.jpg

Damn Kirk... why you have to go spoil my fun like that!

I would drive the :q:q:q:q out of that!!!!

:lol:

Well, the batmobile was Lincoln based.

So, whose gonna be Batman and whose gonna be Robin? :D

:lol:

Well, the batmobile was Lincoln based.

So, whose gonna be Batman and whose gonna be Robin? :D


The Futura worked perfectly as a Batmobile, as it had many "bat" features built into the design already, such as the long fins and bubble canopies. According to Barris, he further enhanced the theme by converting the nose into an integrated bat mask, a first for the car. He also opened the wheel wells, and modified the Futura's fins into subtle bat wings by extending their leading edges into the doors and scalloping the trailing edges. Once bodywork was complete, the car was painted gloss black with red trim to accentuate the various lines of he car. Three replicas were eventually built by Barris' shop, though only one appeared on the show itself.

The car featured an impressive array of bat-gadgets. In addition to the "atomic turbine engine" (the car was actually powered by a blueprinted Ford V8), the car had a nose-mounted chain slicer, lasers, rockets, an on-board telephone, radar, dash monitor, on-board computer, and police beacon. If needed, the Batmobile is capable of a quick 180° "bat-turn" thanks to two rear-mounted 10' parachutes, and the it is equipped with a smoke emitter and a nail spreader to discourage pursuit. Some changes were made during the run of the series, including different license plates, a change in steering wheel, and the addition of extra gadgets such as the rear-facing camera and battering ram.

Nail spreader to discourage pursuit, eh?

Now, THAT could be useful! :D

I've seen the bat mobile in person at Barris' shop in Burbank... pretty crazy that he built it from a factory car...

ok well its the :q:q:q:qkin weekend where are the pics............

Just talked to him.... Cut a few holes in my car... Should be posting them soon:)

speed holes......

speed holes......


i heard he's building a condo for mice rats and squirrels to live in

should be an interesting blend of aromas when complete

Im excited...I alread buitla custom wheel for them to run on... Its gonne be sooo schweeet!

I alread buitla custom wheel for them to run on...!

the mice squirrels and rats are Gonna have custom wheel???!!!
you da man!

peta will make you their posterchild/hero for 2010!

what a very kind thing for you to do

Lol.

Pictures?? C'mon!! haha

Everytime I see this thread my fingers and hands trip over everything trying to get me in to see the progress. Not cool when I don't see any!!

im really curious to see how this turns out

Where the hell are the pictures??

Ohh ya, on my camera still... will post tonight, it was a slow weekend...

Can't wait to see the progress guys..........



Mike

So I didn't accomplish as much as I wanted this weekend... but at least I did something!

That being said I have learned a few things, one Lincoln used some really thin, really poorly weldable metal on these cars, and two sheet metal work is not like riding a bike... if you stop you lose what little skills you may have had quickly :D

So I am waiting on the hinge and latch for the tail light so that is on hold... and I am not quite ready to tackle the shaved door handles, need to gather a few more parts for that as well.

So what did I decide to do... Cut a big hole in the side of the car :D

Get rid of the useless stuff...
http://i491.photobucket.com/albums/rr280/kustomizingkid/Stacks%20Mark%20VIII/DSC_8480.jpg
http://i491.photobucket.com/albums/rr280/kustomizingkid/Stacks%20Mark%20VIII/DSC_8481.jpg
http://i491.photobucket.com/albums/rr280/kustomizingkid/Stacks%20Mark%20VIII/DSC_8484.jpg
http://i491.photobucket.com/albums/rr280/kustomizingkid/Stacks%20Mark%20VIII/DSC_8485.jpg

No turning back now :D

http://i491.photobucket.com/albums/rr280/kustomizingkid/Stacks%20Mark%20VIII/DSC_8493.jpg
http://i491.photobucket.com/albums/rr280/kustomizingkid/Stacks%20Mark%20VIII/DSC_8488.jpg

Well the flat metal doesn't fit at all... wtf :D No big just need to finesse it a bit!

Contour Gauge
http://i491.photobucket.com/albums/rr280/kustomizingkid/Stacks%20Mark%20VIII/DSC_8499.jpg

Precise rolling tool :D

http://i491.photobucket.com/albums/rr280/kustomizingkid/Stacks%20Mark%20VIII/DSC_8500.jpg
http://i491.photobucket.com/albums/rr280/kustomizingkid/Stacks%20Mark%20VIII/DSC_8502.jpg
http://i491.photobucket.com/albums/rr280/kustomizingkid/Stacks%20Mark%20VIII/DSC_8503.jpg

So you would think you are ready to put the panel in right... well not quite, the sides of our cars are very flat... but very and completley are two different things!
http://i491.photobucket.com/albums/rr280/kustomizingkid/Stacks%20Mark%20VIII/DSC_8496.jpg

So you use the English wheel to give the panel a little dimension...
http://i491.photobucket.com/albums/rr280/kustomizingkid/Stacks%20Mark%20VIII/DSC_8489.jpg

Wheel bling!

http://i491.photobucket.com/albums/rr280/kustomizingkid/Stacks%20Mark%20VIII/DSC_8490.jpg

Pretty damn close!

http://i491.photobucket.com/albums/rr280/kustomizingkid/Stacks%20Mark%20VIII/DSC_8507.jpg

Weld it in and grind smooth/

http://i491.photobucket.com/albums/rr280/kustomizingkid/Stacks%20Mark%20VIII/DSC_8508.jpg

I had a horrible time welding the panel in... the Mark is ~20 gauge, maybe even a little thinner... my welder was loaded with .030 wire, way too thick... .025 would be much better...

So I had to fix a spot where I burned through severely...

http://i491.photobucket.com/albums/rr280/kustomizingkid/Stacks%20Mark%20VIII/DSC_8509.jpg
http://i491.photobucket.com/albums/rr280/kustomizingkid/Stacks%20Mark%20VIII/DSC_8510.jpg

Due to my poor welding I had fits finishing it out... I was able to get it close... but nowhere near what I would like to see... sadly this panel will need a lot more filler than I would like. I'm going to do the otherside a bit different...

http://i491.photobucket.com/albums/rr280/kustomizingkid/Stacks%20Mark%20VIII/DSC_8510.jpg
http://i491.photobucket.com/albums/rr280/kustomizingkid/Stacks%20Mark%20VIII/DSC_8520.jpg

Inside

http://i491.photobucket.com/albums/rr280/kustomizingkid/Stacks%20Mark%20VIII/DSC_8521.jpg

Put on some chassis black paint to protect it from rust.

http://i491.photobucket.com/albums/rr280/kustomizingkid/Stacks%20Mark%20VIII/DSC_8523.jpg
http://i491.photobucket.com/albums/rr280/kustomizingkid/Stacks%20Mark%20VIII/DSC_8524.jpg

I think you should use flux core........ :p

Ya know Brandon you are one impressive wipper snapper. :D I look foreward to watching this build. You are taking on allot of things I just dont have the nards to try. Stacks car will be sick when done. I assume with all this custom work that youare going to remove all the cancer off the car?
Also are you going to paint it or have a shop do it?

I also believe Marks metal was closer to 22 or 24 awg. 20 was what older cars had.

I was planning on leaving the rust... just for character...

Lol...

Jamie is painting it...

Sometimes you have to just jump in with both feet and hope for the best :D

WOW!

Crazy to see your car go through a transformation like this...

Its going to be rediculous when its done!!!

Its not nearly as bad as you had me believing it was over the phone dude...

Im getting excited man! WOOO HOOOO!

And You have no idea Laser... he's effing crazy :)

Nice job about how long do you think the build will take?

*Notices use of hole in rocker panel as ground for welder* :lol:

Looking good! Black is pretty. Ford put the blackest black on these cars, too, makes for a nice wet-sand finish.

http://carphotos.cardomain.com/ride_images/2/3870/3601/22174300071_large.jpg
Not the nicest example but an idea at least.

Don't feel bad about your progress man, these things take awhile especially if you're doing a good job.

That being said I have learned a few things, one Lincoln used some really thin, really poorly weldable metal on these cars

Yup, they sure did! (found that out when I was messing with the broken X brace) I've cut myself a few times on various sections with sharp edges.


Good job, so far! Progress looks good and is the kind of stuff I'd never dare attempt. :)

Pshhh... I think everyone should cut a big hole in there car at some point... what is the worst that could happen :D

Brandon, I wish you had a TIG welder...It would make the job alot easier

Me too!

But wishing doesn't build cars... sometimes you just have to do it...

your crazy kid. i wanna see the finished rear window. looks great!

Pshhh... I think everyone should cut a big hole in there car at some point... what is the worst that could happen :D

No thanks, well not on my LSC.

The Falcon, now that's a hole :)

Fred Flintstone style yabadabadoo

YouTube- The Flintstones Theme Song (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2s13X66BFd8)

But wishing doesn't build cars... sometimes you just have to do it...

That is a fact.

I am no body man but I just want to ask about your method. What if you possibly didnt cut out the channel, but maybe ground the outside of the channel and weld your peice to that? Just was thinking that it might keep the door from warping from taking such a long peice out of it. I am sure there is a method to your madness, but I was just curious.

I haven't quite figured out the door yet... there are some complications with it...

*now has Flinstones theme stuck in head*

*humms*

Maybe also use the old door trim as a template for the new peice of metal... just thinking out loud...

I am no body man but I just want to ask about your method. What if you possibly didnt cut out the channel, but maybe ground the outside of the channel and weld your peice to that? Just was thinking that it might keep the door from warping from taking such a long peice out of it. I am sure there is a method to your madness, but I was just curious.

I was thinking you'd have done this on the quarter, cut/grind your filler panel down to size so it sits in enough inside the radius of the groove, tack in the gap a bit btwn filler and edge of groove, then use kitty hair or a bit of mud, light block sand. Then run filler primer over the side of the car using more where your fab work is and block that out to finish up. With like, a 12" or 18" block.

Definately different methods though! My idea might not be the best.

Maybe also use the old door trim as a template for the new peice of metal... just thinking out loud...

Thing is it's flexible, when it's laid out it's not the same shape as it is on the door..
And the shape isn't going to be the same either, the factory molding protrudes in center to assist in doors running into it, which he doesn't want in the filler piece.. he wants it more smooth

And he's working with a curve in every direction, the piece he needs to make for a filler piece has a curve up/down, side/side. Gonna take some patience for sure.

I haven't quite figured out the door yet... there are some complications with it...

You are going to have to do it in stages section it up, after that it will take a lot of filler, which is better then warping the whole door.

The old skool guys would have used led.

Its going to be a time eater for sure.

You are going to have to do it in stages section it up, after that it will take a lot of filler, which is better then warping the whole door.



What if he makes one strip full length, forms the radius, then slices it every inch or so from top edge to center- for the whole length. Then do the same on the bottom half, except have the slices run in the middles of the top slices, then it would be flexible to fit the [forward to rear] curve of the door... and the offset slices should prevent it from buckling, and be easier to smooth out with mud.. right?

Just a thought after you said that

What if he makes one strip full length, forms the radius, then slices it every inch or so from top edge to center- for the whole length. Then do the same on the bottom half, except have the slices run in the middles of the top slices, then it would be flexible to fit the [forward to rear] curve of the door... and the offset slices should prevent it from buckling, and be easier to smooth out with mud.. right?

Just a thought after you said that

There are a couple big problems with trying to do this with one big piece, getting the shape is just one.

The LSC trim goes all the way threw the door seam, its a main part of the door stucture.
Cutting that would be a major mistake, unless you just work in that area.
Even then trying to get the door right in that area is going to be a major PITA.

The door is very weak all around the LSC trim, it bends and just gives too much.
I think if Brandon cut it out they way the rear was sectioned would make the door a scrap pile test door in a hurry.

There in no doubt he has ran this threw his head a hundred times already.

There are a couple big problems with trying to do this with one big piece, getting the shape is just one.

The LSC trim goes all the way threw the door seam, its a main part of the door stucture.
Cutting that would be a major mistake, unless you just work in that area.
Even then trying to get the door right in that area is going to be a major PITA.

The door is very weak all around the LSC trim, it bends and just gives too much.
I think if Brandon cut it out they way the rear was sectioned would make the door a scrap pile test door in a hurry.

There in no doubt he has ran this threw his head a hundred times already.

Right, agreed completely,..

What I mean, is not to cut any of the door out at all, and do what I mentioned with his fabbed filler metal.. If you keep this in mind and re-read my last post, what do you think about it?

I never thought he would cut any of the car to perform this in the first place, really. Not that it's necessarily ''wrong''..

I am being a bit modest. I've planned to do this prior to my next re-paint, and have decided on this process long ago. Just don't want to 'tell' anybody how to do it. Lol

Always open to a better idea though.

Just pull off the stock trim and fill the indentation with mud. :D

Thing is it's flexible, when it's laid out it's not the same shape as it is on the door..
And the shape isn't going to be the same either, the factory molding protrudes in center to assist in doors running into it, which he doesn't want in the filler piece.. he wants it more smooth

And he's working with a curve in every direction, the piece he needs to make for a filler piece has a curve up/down, side/side. Gonna take some patience for sure.

I just mean the outside shape of the filler panel, you would have to use the english wheel to round it out a bit, it would take some time but it would just keep you from removing that channel that is already in the door, most likely for strength in the first place.

I am being a bit modest. I've planned to do this prior to my next re-paint, and have decided on this process long ago. Just don't want to 'tell' anybody how to do it. Lol

Cool I am sure there is more then one way to do it.
I think he cut it out to flush it up the best he could hoping to use less filler.


The thing that sucks is, its a ton of work only a few will every appreciate.

Cool I am sure there is more then one way to do it.
I think he cut it out to flush it up the best he could hoping to use less filler.


The thing that sucks is, its a ton of work only a few will ever appreciate.

Really? I don't know I guess, maybe I'm just one of the few lol

I would notice in a heartbeat, whether being familiar with a mark or not, I'd be like "what did the factory do for side molding if you have it looking like this??" So yeah, you're prob right, most people prob just not even notice.

But subtleties are always cool to me :cool:

The quarter shave took me ~12 hours...

Here is the problem with the door...

1: The inner structure where the door meets the quarter panel is intended for the moulding... if I don't fix that there is no way to make the door gap look right without an ass load of filler... What is going to to have to happen is I will have to cut out part of the inner structure and make a new one...

2: The bottom line of the moulding channel has a pipe running behind it... no access behind it, so after welding I can't do anything if it comes out warped or messed up...

3: It's a huge flat panel... it going to warp after I weld on it, no way around that... just going to have to fix it the best I can after welding...

If I were to make a filler and weld it above the channel if it came out warped or too low or anything I'm stuck... only thing left to do is start pilling on the filler until it looks good...

Everyone that looks at this thread will no exactly how much time went into it all... lol...

I don't care about time... it takes a lot of it to do good work... but it is well well worth it...

The quarter shave took me ~12 hours...

Here is the problem with the door...

1: The inner structure where the door meets the quarter panel is intended for the moulding... if I don't fix that there is no way to make the door gap look right without an ass load of filler... What is going to to have to happen is I will have to cut out part of the inner structure and make a new one...


2: The bottom line of the moulding channel has a pipe running behind it... no access behind it, so after welding I can't do anything if it comes out warped or messed up...


3: It's a huge flat panel... it going to warp after I weld on it, no way around that... just going to have to fix it the best I can after welding...

If I were to make a filler and weld it above the channel if it came out warped or too low or anything I'm stuck... only thing left to do is start pilling on the filler until it looks good...

Fuggit. Glue in the blue high density foam, give it a basic shape, and throw on some kitty hair, then get out the cheese grater Lol

Bah... I'll be doing it the right way... and I am sure it will turn out look very good :)

Really? I don't know I guess, maybe I'm just one of the few lol

I would notice in a heartbeat, whether being familiar with a mark or not, I'd be like "what did the factory do for side molding if you have it looking like this??" So yeah, you're prob right, most people prob just not even notice.

But subtleties are always cool to me :cool:

Take this.
http://www.lincolnvscadillac.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=51732&stc=1&d=1265765102

Wait 9 months and asked people what was different, a lot would miss the trim was gone.
Long standing members would know...but the noobs they would miss it I bet.


The quarter shave took me ~12 hours... Your rusty!
You will get faster by the time its what you call done. :)


Here is the problem with the door...

1: The inner structure where the door meets the quarter panel is intended for the moulding... if I don't fix that there is no way to make the door gap look right without an ass load of filler... What is going to to have to happen is I will have to cut out part of the inner structure and make a new one...
Correct that is what I was saying..... section it.

2: The bottom line of the moulding channel has a pipe running behind it... no access behind it, so after welding I can't do anything if it comes out warped or messed up...

3: It's a huge flat panel... it going to warp after I weld on it, no way around that... just going to have to fix it the best I can after welding...

If I were to make a filler and weld it above the channel if it came out warped or too low or anything I'm stuck... only thing left to do is start pilling on the filler until it looks good..

Maybe work on the other rear panel first, more practice time.
It will come out great, just take your time.

Like I said earlier... metal work is NOT like riding a bike... and the other stuff I have done was on old cars... so much thicker metal...

Like I said earlier... metal work is NOT like riding a bike... and the other stuff I have done was on old cars... so much thicker metal...

Lol sure it is! But I did it 60+ hours a week every week for about 5 years I guess, and every thing from 20 gauge to 2" T1. Every time I touch the stuff I feel like I left off yesterday.

I hear ya though, thin stuff is always fun!

And good point Fordnut. Alot of people prob wouldn't recall noticing anything..

Your rusty!.

No, IM Rusty!





Cars going to look sweet when your done! i like it so far

Is it done yet?

what about now?


any Pics?

Arrrrre we there yet?

why dont we have more pics yet

actually tig welding body panels especially something that thin would cause more warping then mig welding.....tig creates more heat in one concentrated area.....

oh listen to wyotech fabricator tubesteak. i would stick weld it, turn the heat way up and use some old damp 7018 rod. stick welding body panels FTW.

oh listen to wyotech fabricator tubesteak. i would stick weld it, turn the heat way up and use some old damp 7018 rod. stick welding body panels FTW.

Well ya don't completelely understand your post jamie how else wood yuo do it of course you wood stick weld it and you wood have to turn your heet up or you wood get no penitrashon

On another note the guy's right.

ohhhhh i get soooo jealous, i need a gear head close by before I simply bust!!!

looks like a great project can't wait to see the outcome Kupie!!

ponies he is my buddy that i work with i was bustin his balls, stick weld as in Arc weld, i was being sarcastic you would never weld on a car with an Arc welder lol!!

actually tig welding body panels especially something that thin would cause more warping then mig welding.....tig creates more heat in one concentrated area.....

True... but mig welding creates very hard welds, and when you are welding such thin stuff with too thick of wire you don't get a very good weld...

Tig would be much better...

BTW just got back from picking up his new wheels :D

ponies he is my buddy that i work with i was bustin his balls, stick weld as in Arc weld, i was being sarcastic you would never weld on a car with an Arc welder lol!!

Lol

I caught that you were picking at the guy, wasn't sure exactly why though! Thought I'd join the fun.. :)

BTW just got back from picking up his new wheels :D

Tease!

brandon use your brain and put some .023 wire in it , not even .025 find some .023 if you want to weld some nice welds on thin sheetmetal with little warpage. trust me! done too much of it to not know what i am talking about. usually homedepot carries 2 lbs rolls of .023
are you used 75/25 or flux core, please i hope you have gas on that wire!!

let him try it if he screws up I have a L and a R door I will sell him
not a spot rust on them

brandon use your brain and put some .023 wire in it , not even .025 find some .023 if you want to weld some nice welds on thin sheetmetal with little warpage. trust me! done too much of it to not know what i am talking about. usually homedepot carries 2 lbs rolls of .023
are you used 75/25 or flux core, please i hope you have gas on that wire!!

I'm using gas... but .030 wire +22gauge metal equals some kind of :q:q:q:qty welds... but like I said I'll be doing the otherside differently...

ponies he is my buddy that i work with i was bustin his balls, stick weld as in Arc weld, i was being sarcastic you would never weld on a car with an Arc welder lol!!

bad to the bone mccuster customs would stick weld a car....!!!!.......he is a pro that builds theses beasts for a living ....lmfao

and bust my balls all you want ....i was just speakin my 2 :q:q:q:qin cents....and me goin to wyotech has no connection to my comment....it just means i can read a :q:q:q:qin book .....muffin dick lick!

Going to have to do a hub swap.... totally worth it...

http://i491.photobucket.com/albums/rr280/kustomizingkid/Stacks%20Mark%20VIII/Wheels/DSC_8530.jpg
http://i491.photobucket.com/albums/rr280/kustomizingkid/Stacks%20Mark%20VIII/Wheels/DSC_8533.jpg
http://i491.photobucket.com/albums/rr280/kustomizingkid/Stacks%20Mark%20VIII/Wheels/DSC_8534.jpg

Stack got a pretty rediulous deal on these... guy had them on an 06 GT... replaced that car with a 2010 Shelby GT500 :)

good lookin wheel ....but need to see it on the mark....to get a good idea....i still am in love with the speedstar replicas.

yeah, that's totally worth a hub swap...totally.

twenty .......Damn, stick that into the car

who on here has that black gen 2 with those wheels in 20 inch, let me see if i can find it....

never mind i cant find the pics.

Like this?

yes thats the one, i love the look of mine, but this looks sick as :q:q:q:q right here.....
http://www.lincolnvscadillac.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=51996&stc=1&d=1266381153

that does look sick.....

see more reason for you to get one. you loved driving mine coming back from connecticut!!!

Such a spoiler Brandon! LOL!

I did get a ridiculous deal on those wheels...

20x8.5 and 20x10's with 255/35 and 275/35's with a 05+ Mustang Bolt pattern and offset...

the tires are still at 95% and the wheels are pretty damn immaculate

Paid 800 bucks

That 2010 GT500 was gorgeous

Sometimes you get a chance to meet some cool people in this hobby :)

They wont stay chrome for long!

That is gonna be so BA!

Such a spoiler Brandon! LOL!

I did get a ridiculous deal on those wheels...

20x8.5 and 20x10's with 255/35 and 275/35's with a 05+ Mustang Bolt pattern and offset...

the tires are still at 95% and the wheels are pretty damn immaculate

Paid 800 bucks

That 2010 GT500 was gorgeous

Sometimes you get a chance to meet some cool people in this hobby :)

They wont stay chrome for long!

I hate you.

I love everyone... no hate here :D

Yay! Someone loves me! :wrench:

Yay! Someone loves me! :wrench:

lol dont get your hopes up... this is the kid we are talking about here lol
:D :D :D :D :D

I love everyone... no hate here :D

Fail...... I know who you hate, and were the bodies will be buried.

lol dont get your hopes up... this is the kid we are talking about here lol
:D :D :D :D :D

I thought the Kid was warm and fuzzy for Stack. :eek: :p :eek: :p

hey brandon you looking for these babies????????????????

http://i562.photobucket.com/albums/ss63/jamie95mark/rosemistparts.jpg

Sure am!

Send em up!!

I don't know if I need that much metal but more is always better...

You are one slow azz hooker jaime... LOL

And Kirk... you don't hate me... you just want my car :P

Chrome FTF

Look at the thread title... MURDERED!!!

slow? hey i told brandon i would cut them off this weekend, i left work early yesterday , lost overtime pay, so i could cut them off before the weekend, god dam some of you :q:q:q:qers are starting to push my buttons. i'm gonna run them over with my forklift and then send them overnight.

i'm gonna run them over with my forklift and then send them overnight.

:lol: Knowing kid, he will use some polish compound and make them better then new. :lol:

You are one slow azz hooker jaime... LOL

And Kirk... you don't hate me... you just want my car :P

Chrome FTF

Look at the thread title... MURDERED!!!

Wrong....... why would I want a rusty LSC all cut up?

But those rims..... I will take them off you hands trade ya for the cobras r's ;)

Jamie I really appreciate hustling to get those rockers for me....

I love giving you :q:q:q:q Jamie, seriously though I do appreciate everything Jamie!

who's paying for the shipping?

Wrong....... why would I want a rusty LSC all cut up?

But those rims..... I will take them off you hands trade ya for the cobras r's ;)

I'll trade my chrome directional's for your R's. :D

who's paying for the shipping?

PM the price and paypal address...

i will as soon as i get a box for them and get them weighed.

Oh calm down jaime! LOL!

And Kirk?!?!? Rusted and Chopped up!?!? LOL You will eat those words when she is done! And I was going to let you drive :P

Let me know what shipping was jaime ;)

Oh calm down jaime! LOL!

And Kirk?!?!? Rusted and Chopped up!?!? LOL You will eat those words when she is done! And I was going to let you drive :P

Let me know what shipping was jaime ;)

You were going to let me drive it????
OH BOY!!!!!!!
After the snail let me RACE IT, now your talkin :p

There will be nothing left of it.
Jamie is going to turn it into a ball.
LMFAO

Is it done yet?

pics?

RRRRR we there yet?

Jesus Christ!!!

suuuper starrrr

who in the hell do you think you are

Who are you? What have you sacrificed?

Jesus Christ!!!

Jesuth critht!

http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g8/Minckey/Cheese/Mr_Slave.jpg

Who are you? What have you sacrificed?

Plenty believe me.

That right there was a lot more work than I ever thought it would be...



YouTube- Shaved Door Handless (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D-ETtUyIdLM)

YouTube tubez be broken!

It worked fine for me!

Cant wait to see that thing up close and personal!

Way to go Brandon... with a little help from darren!

It worked fine for me!

Cant wait to see that thing up close and personal!

Way to go Brandon... with a little help from darren!

ROFL........Darren strikes again!!!!!!!!!!!

what was the hang up? "supposed" to be soooooo easy

Everything is easy Chicken... but easy and quick are two VERY VERY different things...

So I open the box to this..
http://i491.photobucket.com/albums/rr280/kustomizingkid/Stacks%20Mark%20VIII/Shaved%20Handles/DSC_8545.jpg

Just jam the solenoid down here...
http://i491.photobucket.com/albums/rr280/kustomizingkid/Stacks%20Mark%20VIII/Shaved%20Handles/DSC_8548.jpg

Welded some nuts on the bracket.
http://i491.photobucket.com/albums/rr280/kustomizingkid/Stacks%20Mark%20VIII/Shaved%20Handles/DSC_8551.jpg
http://i491.photobucket.com/albums/rr280/kustomizingkid/Stacks%20Mark%20VIII/Shaved%20Handles/DSC_8552.jpg

Then I hooked the cable to one end so I and see how it will pull.
http://i491.photobucket.com/albums/rr280/kustomizingkid/Stacks%20Mark%20VIII/Shaved%20Handles/DSC_8558.jpg

Measure it out and crimp the other end, I used a chain link to hook it up to the door latch.
http://i491.photobucket.com/albums/rr280/kustomizingkid/Stacks%20Mark%20VIII/Shaved%20Handles/DSC_8568.jpg
http://i491.photobucket.com/albums/rr280/kustomizingkid/Stacks%20Mark%20VIII/Shaved%20Handles/DSC_8567.jpg
http://i491.photobucket.com/albums/rr280/kustomizingkid/Stacks%20Mark%20VIII/Shaved%20Handles/DSC_8571.jpg

Well that was the easy part... the wiring, that was fun!
http://i491.photobucket.com/albums/rr280/kustomizingkid/Stacks%20Mark%20VIII/Shaved%20Handles/DSC_8587.jpg
http://i491.photobucket.com/albums/rr280/kustomizingkid/Stacks%20Mark%20VIII/Shaved%20Handles/DSC_8588.jpg
http://i491.photobucket.com/albums/rr280/kustomizingkid/Stacks%20Mark%20VIII/Shaved%20Handles/DSC_8594.jpg

After all the wires are pulled through the door the next step is to mount the solenoid. Just had to shave away a little foam to make room for it.
http://i491.photobucket.com/albums/rr280/kustomizingkid/Stacks%20Mark%20VIII/Shaved%20Handles/DSC_8603.jpg
http://i491.photobucket.com/albums/rr280/kustomizingkid/Stacks%20Mark%20VIII/Shaved%20Handles/DSC_8613.jpg

I cut off the :q:q:q:qty stock battery clamps for some better ones and I attached a new power to the positive side for the door handles.
http://i491.photobucket.com/albums/rr280/kustomizingkid/Stacks%20Mark%20VIII/Shaved%20Handles/DSC_8615.jpg
http://i491.photobucket.com/albums/rr280/kustomizingkid/Stacks%20Mark%20VIII/Shaved%20Handles/DSC_8630.jpg
http://i491.photobucket.com/albums/rr280/kustomizingkid/Stacks%20Mark%20VIII/Shaved%20Handles/DSC_8631.jpg

Wire up both doors.
http://i491.photobucket.com/albums/rr280/kustomizingkid/Stacks%20Mark%20VIII/Shaved%20Handles/DSC_8620.jpg
http://i491.photobucket.com/albums/rr280/kustomizingkid/Stacks%20Mark%20VIII/Shaved%20Handles/DSC_8622.jpg

Mount the receiver and finish up the last few wires and its all done!
http://i491.photobucket.com/albums/rr280/kustomizingkid/Stacks%20Mark%20VIII/Shaved%20Handles/DSC_8636.jpg

I vacuumed out the car as it was getting pretty dirty from all the work...
http://i491.photobucket.com/albums/rr280/kustomizingkid/Stacks%20Mark%20VIII/Shaved%20Handles/DSC_8644.jpg

Big thanks to Darren!
http://i491.photobucket.com/albums/rr280/kustomizingkid/Stacks%20Mark%20VIII/Shaved%20Handles/DSC_8618.jpg

Damn. So when will this be done, so I can drop mine off next? :lol:

Its gonna be a few more weekends... :)

Got poppers ordered cause the kit didn't come with em... WTF!

I'm getting excited!

Good... I'm excited!

Darren looks excited!!!!

He da man!

wow that looks like fun! good progress kid, maybe martin will fly you down to put his car back together lolol

Me next me next !!!!!!!!!

Me next me next !!!!!!!!!

Wait until I'm done!!!

But after that bring it up :D

Is it done yet?

kustomizingkid, Just wondering is it worth(meaning all the trouble for installing) switching over to the door kit if your door handle is broken or is it just easier to replace the door handle and be done with it? My brother's Mark VIII handle is been a pain to find and seems like it will cost near $200 so thinking of this as a alternative.

Get a used door handle, any color.
Paint to match.
Install.

Far easier then what he is doing.

kustomizingkid, Just wondering is it worth(meaning all the trouble for installing) switching over to the door kit if your door handle is broken or is it just easier to replace the door handle and be done with it? My brother's Mark VIII handle is been a pain to find and seems like it will cost near $200 so thinking of this as a alternative.

WAY easier to just replace the handle... this is all about looks...

find a conti handle from a boneyard

I am so freaking excited to send this hooker to paint...

Its only going to get more epic from here...

So many surprises we have for you guys ;)

I hate surprises when they're so tempting...I'm starting to hate teaser pics now

Is it done yet??????

:GotPics: :GotPics: :GotPics: :GotPics: :GotPics: :GotPics: :GotPics:

Were can I get a set of rims like these?
http://www.lincolnvscadillac.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=51567&stc=1&d=1265480230

I think they would look so nice on my car.

Were can I get a set of rims like these?
http://www.lincolnvscadillac.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=51567&stc=1&d=1265480230

I think they would look so nice on my car.

Big Lots, in the tool isle.

Wait until I'm done!!!

But after that bring it up :D

You may want to word that differently with Debi:D

Well guys...

I'll try not to spoil it for Brandon but some headway was made this weekend!

I got the poppers up to him when they came in on friday and he has been working like a MAD MAN all weekend.

I'll let him post pics and such but its all coming to fruition!

That car is gonna be slick. I have thought the doors would be good on several cars. And I have wanted to do lambo doors on the red mark forever. Sorry I know I just raised hell. But the car sits so low and the doors are so long. It would have to be done right and not some cheap :q:q:q:q. I've seen most of the universal kits. I'm sorry already I said it.:( :cool:

You may want to word that differently with Debi:Dagree!

Well guys...

I'll try not to spoil it for Brandon but some headway was made this weekend!

I got the poppers up to him when they came in on friday and he has been working like a MAD MAN all weekend.

I'll let him post pics and such but its all coming to fruition!
and agree - Kupie is a real HOTTIE when he puts his hottness to it. ;)