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LaserSVT January 12th, 2010, 10:44 PM :D
http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x135/orange92gt/Mark%20VIII/IMGP0489.jpg
http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x135/orange92gt/Mark%20VIII/IMGP0495.jpg
I started off with some red Bullit calipers that I sanded down untill the Pony was gone and then hit it with 4 coats (2 lite, 1 med, 1 med-heavy) of gloss black (wasnt initially planning on using clear). Then I layed down the Mark VIII badge I had made and re-sprayed the whole caliper silver with the same coating as the black. After I peeled off the decal it looked good but the badge lacked depth and I was worried about scuffing them putting on the wheels. So I put on three coats of high temp clear and am just really happy with the results. :)
They have a metallic flake look to them and are very shiney even though the pics dont show it well. When I install them and take some pics in natural light they may come out better.
Here are the products I used in conjunction with 800, 1500 and 2000 gritt sand paper.
http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x135/orange92gt/Mark%20VIII/IMGP0498.jpg
Aquabrit January 12th, 2010, 10:52 PM Cool! Looks good!
cadillackman January 12th, 2010, 10:53 PM Wow, that's bada$$!
THEMOJOMAN January 12th, 2010, 10:58 PM Why did you do this ?
GMAN January 12th, 2010, 10:59 PM What kind of car are those calipers from?
LaserSVT January 12th, 2010, 11:10 PM Why did you do this ?
:confused: Uhhh, cause I was out of weed and wanted to get high on paint fumes. :p
Why do you ask? Dont like it?
What kind of car are those calipers from?
Im sorry, must have forgot to put that in my first post..... :p
They are Bullit calipers. For some reason Bullit calipers are $50 less then Cobra calipers and they are identical.
kustomizingkid January 13th, 2010, 01:34 AM Very nice!
k9t8m January 13th, 2010, 07:03 AM I like it. Thanks for stealing my idea.
LaserSVT January 13th, 2010, 09:16 AM LOL WUT?
Did you already do this to one of your Marks?
GMAN January 13th, 2010, 10:37 AM Do they bolt right up? What all is needed?
LaserSVT January 13th, 2010, 10:43 AM Just have to have the Cobra rotors redrilled to the Mark pattern and also you need to grind down the brake line fitting some unless you get braided lines like I ordered. Pretty simple really. :)
ONEBADMK8 January 13th, 2010, 10:48 AM NICE man.
Rich88LSC January 13th, 2010, 12:19 PM Nice man!
jolinc01 January 13th, 2010, 12:29 PM Those look really good!
Chromebrow January 13th, 2010, 12:51 PM Just have to have the Cobra rotors redrilled to the Mark pattern and also you need to grind down the brake line fitting some unless you get braided lines like I ordered. Pretty simple really. :)
Did you just slot the holes or what? Have any pics of the rotor after the redrill?
What year cobra rotors will we need.
And wheres the installed pics????:)
LaserSVT January 13th, 2010, 01:37 PM Did you just slot the holes or what? Have any pics of the rotor after the redrill?
What year cobra rotors will we need.
And wheres the installed pics????:)
Slot the holes?.... Oh, I see. No I had a machine shop redrill them for me. Kinda pisses me off too. The owner said its $60 an hour for machine work. So I figured $60. I drop them off and see a sign that says $35 minimum charge so I hoped for that but still figured $60 for the job.
The little Mexican machinist told me a price but I figured I just couldnt understand him and asked him to repeat that. He said "$55 por ea wroter". :eek: I said it took two hours to drill 10 holes? WTF? He showes me he beveled the holes and deburred them and all. Yeah, nice. I didnt want the holes beveled. :(
Owner came out and said only $80. Fine, whatever. I paid it.
As for installation pics they wont be installed untill Saturday because I am out of my house from sunup to sundown.
Here is a pic of the rotor though.
http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x135/orange92gt/Mark%20VIII/rotor.jpg
stlunatic January 13th, 2010, 01:47 PM god damn. i am jealous
poniesviii January 13th, 2010, 01:56 PM I would have absolutely lost my mind if someone beveled those holes. Like, to the point of buy me new ones, or I :q:q:q:q your :q:q:q:q up in return.
Calipers look superb, though!!
Chromebrow January 13th, 2010, 02:54 PM Thanks, Those look awesome, I am very jealous., but wont be for long, hopefully!
I'll be adding this to the list of mods that I wish I was able to do to my Mark.
Why is it so bad the bevel the holes, just a strengh issue?
ford nut January 13th, 2010, 03:07 PM You were raped.
If that took longer then 15 min I would be shocked.
topher5150 January 13th, 2010, 03:48 PM Other than the cobra, what other mustangs had the same brakes
Aquabrit January 13th, 2010, 03:56 PM Why the hell the guy beveled those holes, I have no idea. :confused:
Have you confirmed that he drilled them to the correct BCD?
LaserSVT January 13th, 2010, 03:58 PM Other than the cobra, what other mustangs had the same brakes
Mach1 and Bullits
Icarus January 13th, 2010, 04:26 PM It makes no difference whether they are bevelled or not. The shop that did mine did that as well, mind you with only a very small bevel to make sure there are no burrs to get in the way of the hub face or the wheel face, it all good. Thats why they bevel them actually, to get rid of burrs and make sure its flat (least thats what my shop told me.) $20 a rotor is still a good deal...
Did you bake them after painting? The Lincoln logo looks good (though a lil bit tall for me) :) I figured once mine start looking crappy, I'd sand off the Cobra words and do the same as you, and it looks like I'll try it for sure now. I'm going to try it with color matched calipers (same color as car) and silver logos...
Nice work :D
LaserSVT January 13th, 2010, 04:42 PM No baking. Its all high temp paint and they will be baked after pad bed in. :D
Icarus January 13th, 2010, 05:31 PM I know, read the VHT can, I used the same stuff ;)
DLF January 13th, 2010, 05:34 PM Nicely done!
Chromebrow January 13th, 2010, 06:14 PM Laser, its good to see you jump back in after the incident with the other Mark.
You keep on adding to my list and I'll have to find ya and have ya help me out with a few things.
driller January 13th, 2010, 09:36 PM I know two things.
Make sure the boltcircle is correct.
Make sure the BACKSIDE is beveled.
DLF January 13th, 2010, 10:18 PM I know two things.
Make sure the boltcircle is correct.
Make sure the BACKSIDE is beveled.
ROTFLMAO! :D
LaserSVT January 13th, 2010, 11:51 PM I know two things.
Make sure the boltcircle is correct.
Make sure the BACKSIDE is beveled.
Why? Cause they are not. Its the front side only.
DLF January 13th, 2010, 11:55 PM Why? Cause they are not. Its the front side only.
The wider part of studs stick through the hub slightly.....
poniesviii January 14th, 2010, 12:04 AM De-burring and beveling enough to call it a bevel at all are two seperate things unless you're larry the cable guy.
k9t8m January 14th, 2010, 07:23 AM LOL WUT?
Did you already do this to one of your Marks?
no but I have the emblems cut out already to paint my calipers like that on my CE.
ford nut January 14th, 2010, 09:57 AM De-burring and beveling enough to call it a bevel at all are two seperate things unless you're larry the cable guy.
LOL!!!!!
Most shops will call that a chamfer.
That is a heavy chamfer... not needed be any means.
It should be .01 max, but it won't affect anything, just poor craftmanship.
SATURN5 January 14th, 2010, 04:54 PM Why? Cause they are not. Its the front side only.
Usually lug bolts have a shoulder where the knurl ends and the threads begin. The shoulder in most cases, extends past the face of the hub. If the holes are drilled to match the thread diameter of the lug, the rotor may seat against the shoulders of the lugs before seating against the hub face. Chamfering the backside provides clearance for the shoulders.
driller January 14th, 2010, 08:29 PM Usually lug bolts have a shoulder where the knurl ends and the threads begin. The shoulder in most cases, extends past the face of the hub. If the holes are drilled to match the thread diameter of the lug, the rotor may seat against the shoulders of the lugs before seating against the hub face. Chamfering the backside provides clearance for the shoulders.
Thank you for saving me some typing. :)
A couple years back, I installed new rotors (KVR) while upgrading the drivetrain. Long story short, one of the rotors was not beveled on the backside to clear the shoulder of the lugs. When the wheels were put back on, they tightened against the rotor hitting the lug shoulder and not the hub. A few miles down the highway, the car started acting like the rear end or something was going out. After returning to the shop it didn't take long to find the problem. The wheel assembly was very loose. New studs needed installed and the rotor was chamfered to fit properly to fix the problem.
As for the boltcircle, I'm glad we can laugh about that experience now Doug. LOL :D
LaserSVT January 14th, 2010, 08:40 PM Well that really sucks ass then. That means I cant install them this weekend and I am gonna have to take them back to the shop and have him do a mild chamfered on the back sides.
Crapola. :(
Icarus January 14th, 2010, 09:26 PM You should be able to see through the original bolt holes on the rotor to see if it's sitting flush on the hub or not...
driller January 14th, 2010, 10:27 PM Were the original holes chamfered on the backside?
LaserSVT January 14th, 2010, 10:45 PM Were the original holes chamfered on the backside?
Dont know, havent looked yet. Guess I will find out this Saturday. I have to swap the brakes as there is a bad caliper so I am gonna see if the guy can do a mild chamfer on the rear.
Oh *slaps head* you meen the holes on the Cobra rotors. Yes, there is a very shallow chamfer on them.
http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x135/orange92gt/IMGP0523.jpg
driller January 15th, 2010, 07:34 PM You should be golden. ;)
LaserSVT January 15th, 2010, 08:11 PM Thats the 4x4.5 pattern hole. The 4x4.25" pattern does not have that mild chamfer on it. Its perfectly flat. I will still try anyway. I will see if the rotor sits flush and if it does then go ahead and install the kit. My new brake lines showed up too! :wrench
I know it wasnt a neccesity and they were a little pricey but I really wanted them and also didnt want to grind down the stock block to make them work with the Cobra calipers. I figure I wana do it right the first time and see how well this land barge can stop. :D
http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x135/orange92gt/Mark%20VIII/IMGP0526.jpg
Icarus January 15th, 2010, 08:40 PM Change the pads out too and you'll see yet another nice improvement. I could tell the difference between the stock pads my Cobra calipers came with and the Porterfield R4S ones, especially once they were warm! :)
lsc8 January 16th, 2010, 05:53 AM yea my stock cobra pads sucked as well. I could never get them to stop making noise.
LaserSVT January 27th, 2010, 12:44 AM http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x135/orange92gt/Mark%20VIII/IMGP0627.jpg
http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x135/orange92gt/Mark%20VIII/IMGP0628.jpg
Icarus January 27th, 2010, 08:58 AM Daym thats a nice touch, looks good. I'm glad you got it all sorted out :D
Gilby959798 January 27th, 2010, 09:05 AM thats nice looking... im going to keep mine saying cobra since i eventually want to put the cobra intake on it and its getting the stock wheels from my 98 Cobra...
jrherald420 January 27th, 2010, 01:29 PM Looks good. How do they feel?
LaserSVT January 27th, 2010, 07:54 PM They feel freakin fantastic! I was worried at first cause there were a couple issues. One was the drivers side would not bleed. It would belled if I loosend the banjo bolt (bleed at the open bolt that is) I was so flustered I didnt even think to add another washer. I almost called Brandon but then thought it had to be something simple. After starting the car and pumping the pedal then turn off the car, re-pressurize using the power bleeder and then cracked it again and it slowly bled out. I think the banjo bolt was just kissing the piston. Then today every time I would brake it would pull left for a second. I noticed the pads were just taking a bit to bed themselves. By the time I got home the car stopped straight.
I havent nailed them yet as they need to be broken in first but I can tell already the car stops much easier and the pedal feels better.
I just now got done with the rears and added the lines too. The pedal feels fan freakin tastic now! All the mush is gone and the better pads in the rear help allot. Well I did have a frozen slide pin in the drivers rear so fortunatly I thought ahead and when I rented the tool I also bought some more pins.
Couldnt find my grease can so I used the red gunk out of my grease gun.
http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x135/orange92gt/Mark%20VIII/IMGP0639.jpg
http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x135/orange92gt/Mark%20VIII/IMGP0643.jpg
GMAN January 27th, 2010, 08:47 PM Damn I'm jealous. Be sure to write up a tech article, and a parts list.
With those big rotors, will they clear the stock rim?
Gilby959798 January 27th, 2010, 08:53 PM hey did you take the dust shields off the front?
LaserSVT January 27th, 2010, 09:14 PM No and no. :D
There is just under an inch from the caliper to the wheel so a 16" wont fit over these.
And I just bent the shield back a little and it works fine. I wanted to still protect all the suspension stuff from excessive brake dust.
Gilby959798 January 27th, 2010, 09:28 PM i might try to see how much dust covers are from ford
Dmaup January 27th, 2010, 10:12 PM Makes me want to buy bigger rims so I can do this. :(
kustomizingkid January 27th, 2010, 10:14 PM Looks better with the 13" rotors all the way around :D
LaserSVT January 27th, 2010, 10:59 PM Looks better with the 13" rotors all the way around :D
Oh, is that what you have?
kustomizingkid January 27th, 2010, 11:15 PM Not me... Stack's the rich boy who can afford those kind of fun things!
LaserSVT January 27th, 2010, 11:17 PM Not me...
Then STFU!
JK
:p
Blkdvll April 4th, 2010, 11:48 PM I may have missed it somewhere, but what is the size difference between the front mark rotors and cobra rotors? Also, can you use larger aftermarket rotors instead of stock cobra ones?
ripped camel April 5th, 2010, 12:12 AM Those pics made me :q:q:q:q my pants in a jealous rage ;) HAHA
KC96LSC April 5th, 2010, 10:36 AM I know two things.
Make sure the boltcircle is correct.
Make sure the BACKSIDE is beveled.
Word! I went through the same situation, I asked the guy twice to be sure to do this to mine, once they showed up they had forgotten to bevel the back side, so I had to do it myself. Just make sure they definitely know what your talking about when you order the disc's.
Roadboss April 5th, 2010, 12:04 PM Just to clarify a little in terminology (machining wise) those are called chamfers, You should tell them "chamfer to break sharp corner only. Just trying to help.
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