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KD00LS March 10th, 2005, 04:25 PM For any of you with a v8, I have a series of questions. The info on this catback is too unclear.
What could the sound be compared to?
Is it ricey sounding or strong sounding?
Performance gain comments?
Worth buying?(found a site with it for 600)
Any clear comments would be helpful
KD00LS March 10th, 2005, 04:48 PM Also, whats bad about the cabin noise at highway speeds?
eL eS March 10th, 2005, 06:13 PM I do not enjoy the ambient sound level at hwy speeds. It isnt ricey but it does have a raspy note to it. As far as performance it was not that noticable if at all. I would not buy it again.
I have come to the conclusion that perfomance does not have LS in it. Fir what you would spend on a few HP you could go on a nice cruise or hook up a nice component to the home entertainment system. 10 here and there isn't going to match other cars we are wanting to school.
I would invest in creature comforts if anything including inside the car.
whatsupadrian March 10th, 2005, 08:39 PM I attempted to record my catback but it did not come out well one bit. I have them if anyone is interested though. First one is with my recorder taped under my car (hehe i screached my tires in it too), the second one is with it taped on my license plate. These recording make it seem really ricey but the tone is actually a lot deeper. I think my problem is that the recorder is meant for voice so it has a voice compression on it which doesnt pick up the higher frequency sounds. Hope this helps.
CLIP 1 (http://users.adelphia.net/~iamadrian/1.WAV)
CLIP 2 (http://users.adelphia.net/~iamadrian/2.WAV)
KD00LS March 10th, 2005, 08:45 PM Actually that still doesnt sound bad, I know what parts would be the frequency getting messed up so I got an idea what it would sound like. I like it. Whats your opinion on it, it sounds good to me. Any performance increase?
(I'm posting to you whatsupadrian)
whatsupadrian March 10th, 2005, 08:54 PM Actually that still doesnt sound bad, I know what parts would be the frequency getting messed up so I got an idea what it would sound like. I like it. Whats your opinion on it, it sounds good to me. Any performance increase?
(I'm posting to you whatsupadrian)
I didn't notice any difference in power. I would call my catback the "economy" version. I had the pipes bent and cut for me and i bought the mufflers off ebay. I did welding myself and all that good stuff. If i had done it all myself near then end probably would have cost $400. Sounds good. Most of the sound is lost from the skinny stock pipes that have many bends in them. The mufflers set the tone. And the resonators just quited everything down, but with them off you get the resonance frequency hummm at highway speeds. I think an xpipe would help with that. Honestly the hum doesn't bother me one bit. I would do it just for the sound to get people to race you.
KD00LS March 10th, 2005, 08:54 PM El Es, its probably raspy sounding to you because its a v6, im sure theres a sound difference.
Already been on Two cruises
Have a 57" tv
It's exhaust time.
KD00LS March 10th, 2005, 08:58 PM Would Magnaflow sound the same way adrian?
whatsupadrian March 10th, 2005, 09:24 PM Would Magnaflow sound the same way adrian?
Mine is magnaflow, with the catback from magnaflow it might sound deeper and yield some more HP because of the bigger pipes that are mandrel bent. Mine are press bent. Should sound better then min.
KD00LS March 10th, 2005, 09:37 PM thanks a lot your a life saver, i think i made a decision
whatsupadrian March 10th, 2005, 10:02 PM Just recorded another clip with a bigger bitrate. It sounds clearer but still not as deep as the real thing...
CLIP 3 (http://users.adelphia.net/~iamadrian/sample.mp3)
eL eS March 11th, 2005, 05:43 AM El Es, its probably raspy sounding to you because its a v6, im sure theres a sound difference.
Already been on Two cruises
Have a 57" tv
It's exhaust time.
Actually 2 guys I know here in Tampa have the magna flow and borla and neither have the throaty V8 sound. The sound changed to a thicker note but is raspy on WOT. The ambient noise levels are just as crappy inside the car.
whatsupadrian March 11th, 2005, 02:19 PM Actually 2 guys I know here in Tampa have the magna flow and borla and neither have the throaty V8 sound. The sound changed to a thicker note but is raspy on WOT. The ambient noise levels are just as crappy inside the car.
I agree, mine has a hroaty deep v8 sound at idle and then it sounds raspy at WOT.
Beamer March 11th, 2005, 11:24 PM Would a flowmaster be better for that deep v8 sound than? Be nice to have a v8 stang sound, but probably not doable.
Quik LS March 12th, 2005, 08:40 AM Would a flowmaster be better for that deep v8 sound than? Be nice to have a v8 stang sound, but probably not doable.
yes - the flowmasters I have do give the V8 a deep rumble at idle, and an aggressive sound when driving. It may be too loud for some.
Beamer March 12th, 2005, 10:10 AM What do you have, Super 40's? I do not mind the loudness too much. I had a eclipse w/ a magnaflow, HUGE exhaust (installed b4 I bought it) that was a freakin' screamer. Was not too ricey either, was rather deep and attractive unlike most fart cannons.
Quik LS March 12th, 2005, 10:14 AM What do you have, Super 40's? I do not mind the loudness too much. I had a eclipse w/ a magnaflow, HUGE exhaust (installed b4 I bought it) that was a freakin' screamer. Was not too ricey either, was rather deep and attractive unlike most fart cannons.
yes - super 40's, 2.5" piping, magnaflow x-pipe, quad magnaflow double-rolled tips.
the flowmasters will create a loud interior resonance at 45mph under light load.
not ricey at all - more pro-street :gr_devil:
KD00LS March 12th, 2005, 01:02 PM ill think about it
Quik LS March 12th, 2005, 01:34 PM local meineke - $451 parts + $150 labour.
Tommy March 12th, 2005, 01:46 PM Seems like you'd get the bulk of the benefit given by the Magnaflow exhaust if you just buy and install the X-pipe and leave the rest stock. The smaller pipes impact power very little IN THEORY because the exhaust is done expanding for the most part by the time it gets there.
Does anyone have a set of factory resonators and mufflers that they'd be willing to cut open for inspection? The resonators could just be inspected from either side to see what the guts look like without cutting... It would be nice to know what the baseline is. You could go as far as reusing the stock stuff with bigger pipes if the other parts have good internals. A shop could easily expand the entry and exit for a larger pipe... Thus avoiding the raspy-ness.
I'd much rather have the throaty sound characteristic of an Infinity. I wonder if their muffs are any good. hmmmm
OR what about replacing the resonators with pipe? How would that sound? Just a crapping resonance at highway speed?
whatsupadrian March 12th, 2005, 08:09 PM Seems like you'd get the bulk of the benefit given by the Magnaflow exhaust if you just buy and install the X-pipe and leave the rest stock. The smaller pipes impact power very little IN THEORY because the exhaust is done expanding for the most part by the time it gets there.
Does anyone have a set of factory resonators and mufflers that they'd be willing to cut open for inspection? The resonators could just be inspected from either side to see what the guts look like without cutting... It would be nice to know what the baseline is. You could go as far as reusing the stock stuff with bigger pipes if the other parts have good internals. A shop could easily expand the entry and exit for a larger pipe... Thus avoiding the raspy-ness.
I'd much rather have the throaty sound characteristic of an Infinity. I wonder if their muffs are any good. hmmmm
OR what about replacing the resonators with pipe? How would that sound? Just a crapping resonance at highway speed?
thats what i did, listen to my last clip
kleetus March 13th, 2005, 02:07 PM Maybe I'm a little slow today, but where's the sound clip at?
kleetus March 13th, 2005, 02:14 PM I attempted to record my catback but it did not come out well one bit. I have them if anyone is interested though. First one is with my recorder taped under my car (hehe i screached my tires in it too), the second one is with it taped on my license plate. These recording make it seem really ricey but the tone is actually a lot deeper. I think my problem is that the recorder is meant for voice so it has a voice compression on it which doesnt pick up the higher frequency sounds. Hope this helps.
CLIP 1 (http://users.adelphia.net/~iamadrian/1.WAV)
CLIP 2 (http://users.adelphia.net/~iamadrian/2.WAV)
I think what you're seeing is the sound is too loud for the recorder to pick up without clipping... if you can adjust the level that it records at, set it for the lowest volume possible. Basically you're overdriving the microphone, which is why it sounds so bad. You might also try putting it in the trunk, just tape it down do it does't go flying all over the place. It does sound pretty good though.
Oh yeah, I found the clips...
KD00LS March 13th, 2005, 02:22 PM does it lose the raspy sound when you replace the resonator with piping? does it also get louder and more of a muscle sound. and how much does it cost? i know a place that can do it for cheap, only like 115 for the complete install of my friends magnaflow on his 98 gt.
whatsupadrian March 13th, 2005, 03:53 PM Just recorded another clip with a bigger bitrate. It sounds clearer but still not as deep as the real thing...
CLIP 3 (http://users.adelphia.net/~iamadrian/sample.mp3)
this is what i was talking about...
Angry_Inch March 18th, 2005, 08:59 PM Sorry for reviving an almost week-old post, but wanted to add my 2 cents.
The Magnaflow catback system on it's own is not a product that will give any truly noticeable response. I've seen estimates that the system will add another 10-14 HP, so if you get this product alone, you probably wouldn't be able to tell through performance. Add this together with other modifications like a CAI and the new tuner at Ford Parts Network (http://www.fordpartsnetwork.com/), and you should absolutely feel what you've bought.
As for sound, it's absolutley noticeable. It's' not going to rumble like a big-block, but has a decent american hot-rod sound. Cabin noise can be reduced by adding straight tips through the back of the car. Some prefer the look of down-turned tips but beware that this will cause the exhaust note to resonate back into the trunk area, causing more noise.
I am getting my new tips welder on this weekend, and am quite excited.
dropped74 March 19th, 2005, 10:15 AM Sorry for reviving an almost week-old post, but wanted to add my 2 cents.
The Magnaflow catback system on it's own is not a product that will give any truly noticeable response. I've seen estimates that the system will add another 10-14 HP, so if you get this product alone, you probably wouldn't be able to tell through performance. Add this together with other modifications like a CAI and the new tuner at Ford Parts Network (http://www.fordpartsnetwork.com/), and you should absolutely feel what you've bought.
As for sound, it's absolutley noticeable. It's' not going to rumble like a big-block, but has a decent american hot-rod sound. Cabin noise can be reduced by adding straight tips through the back of the car. Some prefer the look of down-turned tips but beware that this will cause the exhaust note to resonate back into the trunk area, causing more noise.
I am getting my new tips welder on this weekend, and am quite excited.
I have just got to say nice name. The Angry Inch, that is just comedy
Chris_n_FL March 19th, 2005, 11:39 PM I am getting my new tips welder on this weekend, and am quite excited.
Hey Mike, small world...did you get those tips on yet? I with the help of a friend just put my catback on this morning and I am thinking of adding the straight tips.
Angry_Inch March 20th, 2005, 01:18 PM Hey Mike, small world...did you get those tips on yet? I with the help of a friend just put my catback on this morning and I am thinking of adding the straight tips.
Yeah, got 'em on. I didn't take pics yet because my car is sooooo filty- I am a little embarrased! That and it's raining.
My mechanic was quite cool as he taught me some welding while I was there and walked away to let me change my oil (no charge, since I had my own stuff.) He was patient during the time we spent making sure we got the best angle, etc.
Honestly, I am not 100% happy with the way it turned out. Some of the newer models and older models retrofitted with the LSE and WW body kits are specifically made with exhaust ports, as standard models do not. This forced me to put 'straght tips' at an angle because of the bottom facia and I am not too pleased. It doesn't look bad, but not like I want.
We only tack'd it on, so we can break the tips off easily enough later if I decide to get a new bumper/facia/body kit.
Chris_n_FL March 20th, 2005, 04:14 PM did it change the note of the exhaust any?
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