http://www.swedish-acceleration.com/Download.html

download clip 1.
He has flowmasters and an H pipe and it sound incredible!

this site rocks.

go to lincolnmotorsport.com theirr exhaust setup is 10x better, for power, and sound. its 2-1/2'?...with 2 x pipes down to 2 mufflers that have an x pipe inside of them, custom designed for the markVIII, not cobra, and like motors...for the markviii

lets try to keep all your exhaust questions and comments in one thread...it ties up bandwidth :N

go to lincolnmotorsport.com theirr exhaust setup is 10x better, for power, and sound. its 2-1/2'?...with 2 x pipes down to 2 mufflers that have an x pipe inside of them, custom designed for the markVIII, not cobra, and like motors...for the markviii

lets try to keep all your exhaust questions and comments in one thread...it ties up bandwidth :N
yeah but not all of us can reasonably invest over $1000 on exhaust on a car, that's just crazy!

Where do you get a $1000.00 from? Our twinn xx pipe is $100.00 lus s&h, right now ANY of our mufflers are on sale for $119.00 each plus s&h?

Where do you get a $1000.00 from? Our twinn xx pipe is $100.00 lus s&h, right now ANY of our mufflers are on sale for $119.00 each plus s&h?
That $340 just for the pipes and then A muffler shop will probably charge around $200-$300 to install with extra pipes. Actually if you read your posts, u quoted someone $1278 installed for the exhaust system, i was quoting low. Do you want me to track that post down for you, I can if you want.

ive only spend 600 and thats just for 2 muffler and a exhaust tip...( and a new bumper for the new exhaust setup).....still need two mid pipes and the installingof the exhuast and jet coating. another 500-600$. if i decide to do the exhaust, giving up on moding the mark.

Where do you get a $1000.00 from? Our twinn xx pipe is $100.00 lus s&h, right now ANY of our mufflers are on sale for $119.00 each plus s&h?
http://www.lincolnvscadillac.com/showthread.php?t=3115&highlight=exhaust+clips

sorry it was $1050 installed, but I was still right with my $1000 estimate

go to lincolnmotorsport.com theirr exhaust setup is 10x better, for power, and sound. its 2-1/2'?...with 2 x pipes down to 2 mufflers that have an x pipe inside of them, custom designed for the markVIII, not cobra, and like motors...for the markviii

lets try to keep all your exhaust questions and comments in one thread...it ties up bandwidth :N

why exactly is their setup 10x better? Do you have specific details? I don't see anything wrong with the exhaust setup pictured on that website.

its made by LMS, who cares why thats what they think, you can make your own and be just as good, sorry guys but that what i think.........

its made by LMS, who cares why thats what they think, you can make your own and be just as good, sorry guys but that what i think.........

I agree. I think the LMS setup is nice, and I like the X pipe a lot, but at the same time, you are completely right - you could make one yourself that provides the same level of performance.

I agree. I think the LMS setup is nice, and I like the X pipe a lot, but at the same time, you are completely right - you could make one yourself that provides the same level of performance.

Ill take that challenge ANY day of the week. Let me explain something here, we spent TWO years in product development and research before we ever released one exhaust item and I will guarantee you will not find a single system to rival this. Been there done that, we ran more dyno time on the exhaust then anything else. So please do not make statements without backing.

And again please tell me where you will find a 100% stainless steel lifetime warrantied mirror chrome polished muffler that was designed for this car and engine with ss tips too for $119.00 each.

i wanna see the inside of these LMS MUFFLERS.... :Bang

Ill take that challenge ANY day of the week. Let me explain something here, we spent TWO years in product development and research before we ever released one exhaust item and I will guarantee you will not find a single system to rival this. Been there done that, we ran more dyno time on the exhaust then anything else. So please do not make statements without backing.

And again please tell me where you will find a 100% stainless steel lifetime warrantied mirror chrome polished muffler that was designed for this car and engine with ss tips too for $119.00 each.

I have no doubts that you sell a good product, and I don't mean to disparage you in any way. But exhaust systems are not a mysterious art, they are built every day, in some cases by people with decades of experience in performance. It's not difficult for a professional to design and install a system for a given application. The shop I use has been building me systems for the last 6 or 7 years and I have been happy with all of them, as they all involved swaps or engine installs that required completely custom work. As for r and d with mufflers, there are a lot of muffler companies out there who have been making mufflers for decades as well, and I am sure that they have done their fair share of research.

Can you explain to me a bit how the muffler was designed for the car and who manufacturers it? And why is it called the QX4 - is it from an infiniti?

Again, please don't take this as an attack on your company or your products.

NP bud, read it and weap.

Heres the link from back oin 01 when we released these. Give the pics time to load, they take forever.

http://web.archive.org/web/20010625174143/www.markviii.org/dcforum/DCForumID4/12.html

Interesting. I am assuming that the mufflers can be had without the tips?

67 Im not sating your knocking me I am just saying your not armed with the knowledge you need about this subject matter. WE ARE PROFFESSIONALS, we took the time to deal with this system which is quite different from most out there, especially when you have a car where the mufflers are at the end of the equation like the Marks.

We tried Magnaflows, Dynomax, all of them, we couldnt get a happy medium, either too much tq and no hp or vica versa, thats when we decided we had to do something about this ourselves with a truly unique design that has never been offered to the general public, the Twiin XX Pipe torque chamber.

We tried one x, h pipes and NOTHING would kill the drone, then jeff at Ford Racing told us about a unique trick they did with the early 32v prototype Thunderbirds (They ran the 32v in the MN12 before it was used in the Marks FN10 chassis for driveability issues and what not) and he spoke of them hand making twin xx pipes to solve this he also noted that they had a slight increase in torque at lower rpms from this too. So then the twin xx pipe from LMS was born. We also tested MANY chambered mufflers as well with terrible results, you have to remember something, the 32v is a serious air mover, I mean seriously fast exhaust gas speeds come from this engine and the chambered mufflers KILL this in these cars, muffs like Flowmasters which I always will and still do say is the worst muffler for this car based on dyno facts and what we have seen, dont get me wrong they sound mean but do want to just SOUND mean and not run MEAN? I Love them, they just belong on pushrod motors.

We had some help from Jeff Dunn at Ford Racing with our exhaust product too, so it is backed by Ford btw. Its cool, you can call Ford Racing and ask anything about a Mark VIII and see whos number they will give you. We are THE ONLY Lincoln tuner endorsed by Ford Racing.

Interesting. I am assuming that the mufflers can be had without the tips?


W/O tips are $99.00 each.

thanks for all the information, that is the answer I was looking for.

NP, anytime. thats what I am here for.

NP, anytime. thats what I am here for.
Ok, where's the soundbite u promised?
Nevermind, I'm a moron, I saw it and downloading it now, i'll let you know what I think.

Thanks,
scott

NP, anytime. thats what I am here for.
Geno, This goes with my emissions thread. I've been reading all these quotes with great interest. You've sent me pictures of the underside of your car. Your are in fact eliminating the third cat as well as the resonator? I've been told that the Mark wont pass emissions here in Houston without that third cat. What are your thoughts?

Passes all 50 states. I have never heard of it not passing. If we can pass here in NJ on the dyno I couldnt imagine it not passing anywhere else. Our stuff is strict.

so, how does you muffler @ the end compare to everyone doing the midmount (dynpomax or whichever one their using) dual in dual out muffer. why dont you make a dual in dual out muffer

Because there is no need for it. We have tested it years before.

ok, i curiuos as to why the muffler work better @ the end of the car oppose to the midmount. or having three mufflers, instead of 2 x's and 2 mufflers. mid. muffler and rear muffler

what type of systems have you tried? :Beer

So $40 for the tips?? Those things make my MagnaFlow tips look cheap and cheesy.

what are the muffler everyone is running on their mark 8....... i have spintech (sitting on the floor in my room but not on) :Bang

what type of systems have you tried? :Beer

Everything within reason and budget. I used to have Dynomax Ultraflows on the TerminVIIIor with both 2 1/4 and 2 1/2 piping, Magnaflows, Flowmasters..etc..etc. With MANY different pipe sizes and configurations.

Here is a shot with the cheesy a s s hokey looking Dynomax Ultraflow round mufflers when they were on.

http://www.lincolnmotorsport.com/backdrivercutout.jpg

So $40 for the tips?? Those things make my MagnaFlow tips look cheap and cheesy.

We dont have those tips anymore, thats from over 3 years ago. We have these ovals.

http://www.lincolnmotorsport.com/mk8plate.jpg

those new oval tips look nice - i like them more than the quad tips i saw on some of your cars. are the mufflers single exit?

Yes they are.

I heard one of Geno's exhaust systems today, and I'll say it sure does sound fine. I can't attest to driveability or whatever over stock as I've never even sat behind the wheel of a Mark 8, but it sounds quite nice.

Stupid question..

How would good ol fashioned glass packs work on this car..........

Hey Geno, you know your forum on the bottom of the page!? (In Forums) Why don't you make a thread of all the info on your xhaust. Everything, links pictures. Instead of posting the same thing for these guys over and over again. Just post all your info in one spot. Hp numbers, torque. Why you did this instead of this. Numbers form the other mufflers. If you still have them.

You know what im talking about!?

Stupid question..

How would good ol fashioned glass packs work on this car..........

VERY annoyingly LOUD.