LOL, discuss your opinions on the news I just heard :-D

http://www.comcast.net/articles/news-world/20091027/EU.France.Scientology/

when other countries see it for what it is:
Belgium, Germany and other European countries have been criticized by the U.S. State Department for labeling Scientology as a cult or sect and enacting laws to restrict its operations.

that's cause scientology money pays lobbyists to keep them as an untouchable "chuch" power. But cmon....a religion written by as science fiction novelist...might as well make star trek or star wars a religion then....the force means you're the new messiah :P

i think removing special status for any and all of them is a step in the right direction. charitable organizations? yeah right. they should only gain a tax advantage for actual things instead of a blanket tax holiday. and the obvious cults should be abolished.
problem with america is the freedom of religion ideal.
any crack pot can make one up.

There's a group called the Raelians who believe we're descended from space aliens.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ra%C3%ABlian_beliefs_and_practices

With all the amazing ancient pyramid like structures and their celestial alignments all over the world one could argue there is more evidence of this to believe in than anything from the mainline established religions.

According to the book Geniocracy, the form of government most effective for creating a worldwide political union is one that favors intelligence over mediocrity. While having a democratic electoral apparatus, it differs from traditional liberal democracy (http://www.lincolnvscadillac.com/wiki/Liberal_democracy) by requiring members of the electorate (http://www.lincolnvscadillac.com/wiki/Constituency) to meet a minimum standard of intelligence. The thresholds proposed by the Raëlians are 50% above average for a candidate and 10% above average for a voter


We may think these people are crazy but I like this idea :D

this gives me an idea...I'm gonna write a book and make a religion of ME!!! I will get people to give me free sh*t, get tax cuts, have holidays to get off work, and gives me a reason to dunk my ex girlfriend in water and never let her out. HAHAHAHA

PetesSweetianity

The new Mormonism

oooo I get all hot women...you all get the sh*tty women, HAHAHA...which means you guys get most of the sluts at least :P

problem with America is the freedom of religion ideal.


...and here I thought it was one of the things that made us great.

problem with america is the freedom of religion ideal.


So...you have a problem with Natural Rights?

So...you have a problem with Natural Rights?

if religion is natural, then why must it be learned?

religion is the giggest fairy tail of all....face it...it's a bedtime story you were told as a kid....

YouTube - George Carlin: Religion is Bull:q:q:q:q (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RNy6ziOyxoA)

if religion is natural, then why must it be learned?

Why don't you just say you also don't know what "natural rights" means?

religion is the giggest fairy tail of all....face it...it's a bedtime story you were told as a kid...

No one wants to discuss theology with you, Pete, regardless how many episodes of the Daily Show you've watched, or how many Carlin videos you've found on Youtube.

But it would be helpful if you could use some Carrot Top videos to explain natural rights to your new buddy.

if religion is natural, then why must it be learned?

Do you really have no clue what I am talking about?

I came across these looking for information on a paper for school. Here's some really good articles from TIME issue about Scientology written in 1991: http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,972865,00.html

http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,972886,00.html

http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,972878,00.html

I remember reading some article about Scientology and how they browbeat and blackmail their prominent celebrity members into keeping their mouths shut. There was something going on with Travolta where they had some sex scandal dirt on him, and he was trying to quit the church, and they threatened to expose him, so he stayed.

Very classy.

gives me a reason to dunk my ex girlfriend in water and never let her out. HAHAHAHAQuite the sense of humor there. Laughter to hide the bitter tears maybe?

Do you really have no clue what I am talking about?
you think religion isn't political or societal?
and that should be without the DO. and condescending yet again towards me. what a dweeb.

you think religion isn't political or societal?
and that should be without the DO. and condescending yet again towards me. what a dweeb.

???
Again, do you have any clue what I am saying? It sure doesn't look like it.

And I only ever treat you with the same level of respect you extend to me. The ball is, and always has been, in your court. You have known that for quite a while now and still try to condescend to me and belittle me when you clearly don't know what you are talking about (or more specifically, what you are responding to). That kinda compromises any attempt at condescension on your part.

Why can't you simply admit that you don't know what I am talking about and try to understand it? Show me respect and I will show you respect. But you don't seem to be able to discuss things without using belligerence, condescension, invalided and misleading arguments and smears as a means of debate (which is what got the animosity going between us in the first place).

Quite the sense of humor there. Laughter to hide the bitter tears maybe?

bitter tears? no...she's annoying.....:q:q:q:qing will try calling me at 5am when I'm still sleeping..plus my mistake of thinking I could take on the problem of a bipolar woman....nope.......plus I never gotta tap that @ss so what's there to miss? Just she's the most recent annoyance I had to put up with :P

???
Again, do you have any clue what I am saying? It sure doesn't look like it.

And I only ever treat you with the same level of respect you extend to me. The ball is, and always has been, in your court. You have known that for quite a while now and still try to condescend to me and belittle me when you clearly don't know what you are talking about (or more specifically, what you are responding to). That kinda compromises any attempt at condescension on your part.

Why can't you simply admit that you don't know what I am talking about and try to understand it? Show me respect and I will show you respect. But you don't seem to be able to discuss things without using belligerence, condescension, invalided and misleading arguments and smears as a means of debate (which is what got the animosity going between us in the first place).

cmon guys, no need to act like scientologists here..... :P

religion is the giggest fairy tail of all....face it...it's a bedtime story you were told as a kid....


Well if this is your opinion then it follows all religions are frauds filled with the Truthiness of Noble Lies.
Why pick on Scientology?

Well if this is your opinion then it follows all religions are frauds filled with the Truthiness of Noble Lies.
Why pick on Scientology?

Oh I pick on em all but as my headline states...the focus was a European nation finally is giving scientology the boot.

i'll make it easy for you shagdum

This message is hidden because shagdrum is on your ignore list.

Why don't you just say you also don't know what "natural rights" means?
what definition are you looking for? dictionary?

1 a body of unchanging moral principles regarded as a basis for all human conduct.
2 an observable law or laws relating to natural phenomena.


catholic?

http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/09076a.htm

which one do you wish to use as a basis for arguement?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natural_law

..natural rights are unalienable rights.
It's at the foundation of our American form of government and philosophy.

Of course, Canada has never embraced such independence, that may be why you're unfamiliar with the concept.

i'm aware of natural rights. i was asking as to how they pertain to religion.
there is an arguement to be made for choice, but i don't see how that defends creation of any nut job religion that anybody can dream up.
making one up is not strictly speaking "making a choice".

and then how can you define real from cult?

there is no real all religions are fairytales because man has a hard time blaming himself for problems or asking others for advice or forgiveness so one must make up a fals being to idolize. Then again people idolize money more than religion.......

Then again people idolize money more than religion.......
and funny how many of them are christian.

statistic show christians are the fattest religion...literally :P

statistic show christians are the fattest religion...literally :P

This is the dumbest thread I've seen.
And somehow, Pete, you find a way to lower the bar a little bit more EVERY time you post.

statistic show christians are the fattest religion...literally :PYou're a coin flip away (http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_percentage_of_statistics_are_made_up_on_the_s pot) from being right.

fyi, it's an actual statistic. Trying to remember if it was the surgeon general that said so but try watching Killer at Large and the information is in there. Christians are more likely to be fat/obese than other religions

fyi, it's an actual statistic. Trying to remember if it was the surgeon general that said so but try watching Killer at Large and the information is in there. Christians are more likely to be fat/obese than other religions

And you're bogus "statistic" indicates what?
Christians are more affluent and successful?
Cultures that embrace Christian virtues are more successful?

What was that thoughtful point you were trying to make.

no...that chiristian are the biggest gluttons, that they have no self control, other cultures could eat more...but why throw your life away into food that's unhealthy for you, destroys your life and others, plus decreases your life longevity

I think it's an "American" thing this gluttony and not a christian thing.
It's a coincidence because we have such a large christian population.
Food is cheap and plentiful.
Children are encouraged to scarf sugar cereals.
Physical inactivity and laziness also contribute to the fat ass syndrome.

Europe is largely Christian as well, and doesn't have the obesity problems that the US does...

+1 foxy

where do you think christianity started anyways?

I think it's an "American" thing this gluttony and not a christian thing.
It's a coincidence because we have such a large christian population.
Food is cheap and plentiful.
Children are encouraged to scarf sugar cereals.
Physical inactivity and laziness also contribute to the fat ass syndrome.

only reason why it is cheap is because it is unhealthy. Sure I'll say I'll have fast food once in a while to get rid of the alcohol but the fact of the genetical mutation of the food we eat, consumption of cloned animals (which aren't labeled), Amonia Nitrate is used to "decontaminate" our meat.....hell even our farmers are paid sh*t for their bushels only because the big manufactures have a contract with them and force them to get millions into debt to produce more and more for that company....but only making maybe 20k a year...how's that gonna pay off debt?

+1 foxy

where do you think christianity started anyways?You just agreed with foxpaws' statement that contradicted yours. FYI

Don't bother Pete's flow of conscience with details.
He's all over the place and none of it makes any sense.
It's just the rantings of a moron.

Don't bother Pete's flow of conscience with details.
He's all over the place and none of it makes any sense.
It's just the rantings of a moron.

Ya
When you're only 20 you think you know everything.

Ya
When you're only 20 you think you know everything.At least back when I was 20, I formed complete sentences and used good punctuation... ;)

You just agreed with foxpaws' statement that contradicted yours. FYI

does not condradict. As she stated that the US doesn't have NEAR as many christians but there still is a majority that is overweight in Europe. They may have more christians but we have more overweight christians.

And btw it doesn't contradict the fact that Christianity is the fattest religion

Ya
When you're only 20 you think you know everything.

Never said I know everything. All basis of fact, and not acting like a republican @sskissing d*ckweed :P

At least back when I was 20, I formed complete sentences and used good punctuation... ;)

it's the internet...when does every post have to be a term paper to be sent into the nazi as one such as yourself for grammar. I never use the spell check on here anyways because of that matter.

And btw it doesn't contradict the fact that Christianity is the fattest religion

I think Wicca is the chunkiest - have you even been near a coven - somewhat scary...

not much population in the Wickens......plus I've seen a number of thin petite wickens. only the males are plump and fat.....maybe fat people should be the new red meat for cooking? yum yum cannibalism, LOL

it's the internet...when does every post have to be a term paper to be sent into the nazi as one such as yourself for grammar. I never use the spell check on here anyways because of that matter.Pete...lighten up. Was just kidding with ya...:D

does not condradict. As she stated that the US doesn't have NEAR as many christians but there still is a majority that is overweight in Europe. They may have more christians but we have more overweight christians.

And btw it doesn't contradict the fact that Christianity is the fattest religion
I'm sorry you don't see it. Ah well, not going to explain it to you.

Europe is the 2nd fattest country after we take the ead. How's that for a give away? lol

http://news.yahoo.com/s/time/20091110/hl_time/08599193677700

Europe is the 2nd fattest country after we take the ead. How's that for a give away? lol

Europe is a country now?

:lol:

lol my bad...Continent....I just woke up...give me credit for even spelling Europe :P

lol my bad...Continent....I just woke up...give me credit for even spelling Europe :PI'll give you credit for not caring how much you embarrass yourself. Of course, this is the internet, so you don't get much. ;)

statistic show christians are the fattest religion...literally :P

i was more making a point about idolatry in the bible, but we'll go with your's.

i was more making a point about idolatry in the bible, but we'll go with your's.

what's the difference. Christians are the biggest Hypocrits. They say "no other gods" but yet they worship food more....money more...power more.....then when it gets them down they beg Jesus for forgiveness :P

then when it gets them down they beg Jesus for forgiveness
that's the get out of jail free disclaimer. there's one in all religions.
repent, confess, whatever. you're in. hells not much of a deterence.

hell is fun...that's where the sluts and recreational drugs are :-D plus if hell has the heat I'd hate to be heaven in wintertime

hell is fun...that's where the sluts and recreational drugs are
you do realize that if religions and gods are made up, so are heaven and hell.
but if there was a place as hell, that's where all the rock'n'roll paties would be.(or maybe that's where lawrence welk went. ok boys, start up the bubble machine)

Sluts and junkies are usually very happy people.
/sarcasm

Oh wait, I forgot, Pete is still a 13th grader... he doesn't know anything yet.

Sluts and junkies are usually very happy people.
/sarcasm

Oh wait, I forgot, Pete is still a 13th grader... he doesn't know anything yet.

na, 13th grade was easy and past, but 14th grade...there's some tough sh*t..

what's the difference. Christians are the biggest Hypocrits. They say "no other gods" but yet they worship food more....money more...power more.....then when it gets them down they beg Jesus for forgiveness :PYou think you're funny, but in reality you're just dumb.

You think you're funny, but in reality you're just dumb.

If I'm dumb may God strike me down where I type! RIGHT NOW!

If I'm dumb may God strike me down where I type! RIGHT NOW!

We're all hypocrites about something or other.
Some of us are just more so than others.
Especially the ones who think they ate all the brains.
Careful what you wish for.:eek:
You may just get it.

nope, still alive :P

Careful what you wish for.:eek:
You may just get it.

Sweet! Maybe I'll win the competition I entered for a ZR1! :D

If I'm dumb may God strike me down where I type! RIGHT NOW!
"Thou shalt not tempt the Lord thy God." Matthew 4:7

"Thou shalt not tempt the Lord thy God." Matthew 4:7

ahh so it's demotivs you want eh?

YouTube- "The God Who Wasn't There" - Trailer (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=73_IjNPmIEI)

Mods, yet another thread NOT ABOUT CHRISTIANITY has been hijacked by the anti-Christians on this site. Please edit.

Thanks.

actually I'm a Lutheran :P and I've been baptized, but I grew up...and I also do'nt believe in Santa anymore either. Btw, the discussion was set upon Scientology and was transgressed to christianity because others refuse to call it a cult as with every religion is :P

Let's see hear

1-Pete got bored at work
2-Pete made thread about controversial topic
3-Pete let y'all argue amongst you're selves for a while and laughed accordingly
4-then came back and turned one sentence around into christians suck [well most do]
5and finally the last one Pete put up some demots and pwned this thread for his own amusement. The bad thing is almost all the intelectuals in this thread went for it and tried to argue with him. It's like arguing with a carrot, you might be right but that carrot aint gonna budge on his outlook, HE DOESN'T HAVE ONE! Pete be nice now, or carry on it would be funnier.:D :cool:

I do'nt use outlook...I find it a unnecessary program :P
mmmmm carrots :-D too bad they are starchy or I'd eat them carrots more often :P

I'm not saying all christian suck. I'm saying the religions are the root of all problems. How many wars were started on religion or correlation to it?

I'm not targeting religion...just it seems the christians in here want to defend the fact that it is NOW a cult....thet their offerings are going STRAIGHT to God's piggy bank.....that they are being forgiven for their sins. That they will some day go to heaven....same way a man who commits Jihad will see his virgins!

I can't believe I'm saying this. Well spoken Petey.

I can't believe I'm saying this. Well spoken Petey.

You really are quite ignorant, aren't you...

Pete is a guy who isn't quite smart enough to hang out with the "philosophers" on 4chan.org, so he just reposts their images and pretends to be witty.

No not ignorant just agreed with one of Petes random statements :q:q:q:q:q:q:q.:D