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Trans HELP!

Missing Linc'
September 3rd, 2009, 10:06 AM
Alright so! This mofukken weekend Im swapping in the TCI Streetfighter 3K.. I have the PDF files/walkthroughs that were linked in another thread about swapping the converter. I need to know how much fluid the trans takes and how do I fill er back up, I heard talk of some special fitting but where/how do I get one? Also Ive only done clutch swaps this is my first autotrans job and Im kinda nervous, any words of advice or anything would be great, I plan on taking the whole weekend which means Im patiently doing this. Also while Im at it do you think I should just invest in say the B&M trickshift fluid/Royal Purple(if they make it) or just go regular? Im also gonna box in my heatshield for my intake too so hopefully come monday or whenever its done Ill have some good reporting to do. Hope someone on here can help, thanks!

Missing Linc'
September 3rd, 2009, 10:08 AM
Sorry about the begining of the post Im kinda excited.. :shifty:

pektel
September 3rd, 2009, 10:16 AM
Me too! Can't wait to hear how it performs after. Make sure to take pics. It'd be nice to see the process.

Make sure you have lots of crazy extensions to reach the top bolts on the bell housing. And of course, remember anything that needs to be disassembled inside the cabin to allow the trans to drop.

I was going to post the fluid amount from my shop manual, but I don't have a gen 2, so I don't know how much fluid for refilling. sorry.

Missing Linc'
September 3rd, 2009, 10:43 AM
Well since its an auto I just unhook the cables for the shifter correct? Its not a top fed like most manuals or anything from my understanding..

pektel
September 3rd, 2009, 10:52 AM
I've never dug into it either. I was just saying to make sure is all... It would suck to drop the trans and mess up the shifter.

If there's one thing I've learned, it's never assume anything if it has a Lincoln badge.

Missing Linc'
September 3rd, 2009, 10:56 AM
Well, if I break the shifter in any way shape or form, Im just gonna get this from TCI as well(since I saved an a$$load from doing this myself) and see if I can get it to compliment my interior haha

gcwimmer
September 3rd, 2009, 11:08 AM
2nd gen auto trans dry capacity: 11.2L/11.9 quarts.

Keep us updated.

Missing Linc'
September 3rd, 2009, 11:17 AM
I need 12qts of ATF??? Holy sh!t

Thanks!

gcwimmer
September 3rd, 2009, 11:33 AM
That is dry capacity including trans cooler.

Missing Linc'
September 3rd, 2009, 11:37 AM
Well since there isnt a dip stick for the trans I plan on draining it all, or as much as I can atleast..

Missing Linc'
September 3rd, 2009, 11:43 AM
Synthetic or conventional ATF?

LS6_5SPD
September 3rd, 2009, 11:46 AM
Keep us udated man !! where r u located ? My dad is a general race cars mechanic currently working as a auto tranny speciallist. He may have some tips or things to be carefull with.
I'll talk to him in like 20 minutes as Im going to the garage to clean up my airbox and put in the replacement K&N I got last night :wrench

Missing Linc'
September 3rd, 2009, 11:50 AM
Connecticut right now, trying to get my sh!t together to move to my house in Sebring FL

gcwimmer
September 3rd, 2009, 12:56 PM
Synthetic (most brands are), same as OEM, MERCON V ATF spec.

CrackerJack
September 3rd, 2009, 02:50 PM
Auto tranny drop is just like a manual tranny drop, there are just a few extra wires to disconnect and thats it.

If I remember correctly >.> At least for a 95 explorer thats it.

alcruz
September 3rd, 2009, 03:00 PM
SECTION 307-01: Automatic Transaxle/Transmission — 5R55S 2004 Lincoln LS Workshop Manual
REMOVAL Procedure revision date: 05/27/2003

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Transmission Printable View (592 KB)
WARNING: Secure the transmission to the transmission jack with a safety chain. Failure to follow these instructions can result in personal injury.

NOTE: When the battery has been disconnected and reconnected, some abnormal drive symptoms can occur while the vehicle relearns its adaptive strategy. The customer needs to be notified that they can experience slightly different upshifts either (soft or firm) and that this is a temporary condition and will eventually return to normal operating condition.

NOTE: If transmission disassembly or installation of a new transmission is necessary, drain the transmission fluid. Install the drain plug when finished.

NOTE: If the transmission is to be removed for an extended period of time, support the engine with a safety stand and a wood block.

With the vehicle in NEUTRAL, position it on a hoist. For additional information, refer to Section 100-00.
Disconnect the battery ground cable. For additional information, refer to Section 414-00.
Remove the complete exhaust system and front heat shields. For additional information, refer to Section 309-00.
Remove the parts in order indicated in the following illustration and table.


Item Part Number Description
1 W701357-S309 Output shaft flange coupler
Removal Note
2 4817 Driveshaft
Removal Note
3 7000 Transmission assembly
Removal Note
4 9F472 Heated oxygen sensor electrical connector
Removal Note
5 9F472 Heated oxygen sensor electrical connector retainer
Removal Note
6 W705966-S426 Transmission support center screw
7 W704971-S426 Transmission support outer screws
8 6A023 Transmission support
9 7E395 Cable retainer
Removal Note
10 7E395 Transmission selector lever cable eyelet
11 — Wire harness retainer
Removal Note
12 7B229 Transmission selector lever cable screws and bracket
13 14A464 Speed sensor connector
14 7C078 Solenoid body harness electrical connector
Removal Note
15 14A464 Wire harness retainers
Removal Note
16 14A646 Transmission range TR sensor electrical connector
Removal Note
17 7A030 Fluid cooler tube bracket
Removal Note
18 7A030 Fluid cooler tube nuts
Removal Note
19 6C070 Torque converter access cover
20 W705443-S Torque converter nuts
21 W500128-S Bell housing screws
22 7000 Transmission assembly
Removal Note

Item 1: Output Shaft Flange Coupler Removal Note

CAUTION: Index-mark (color paint) the bolts, washers, nuts and the flex coupling to the transmission flange to make sure they are installed in the same location. Components that are not assembled in their original locations can cause driveshaft imbalance.

CAUTION: Do not remove the bolts retaining the flex coupling to the driveshaft.

Index-mark the front driveshaft pinion flange. Remove the three nuts, washers and bolts.

Item 2: Driveshaft Removal Note

Slide the front shaft assembly rearward and support.

Item 3: Transmission Assembly Removal Note

WARNING: Secure the transmission to the transmission jack with a safety chain. Failure to follow these instructions may result in personal injury.

Using a suitable transmission jack, support the transmission.
Item 4: Heated Oxygen Sensor Electrical Connector Removal Note

Disconnect the heated oxygen sensor connector and remove the sensor wire retaining clip from the right side of the transmission pan rail.

Item 5: Heated Oxygen Sensor Electrical Connector Retainer Removal Note

Remove the heated oxygen sensor connector from the front of the transmission pan rail.

Item 9: Cable Retainer Removal Note

Disconnect the shift cable retainer

Item 11: Wire Harness Retainer Removal Note

Disconnect the wire harness from the top of the transmission shift cable bracket.

Item 14: Solenoid Body Harness Electrical Connector Removal Note

NOTE: Clean the area around connector to prevent contamination of the solenoid body connector.

Remove the screw from the solenoid body connector and disconnect the connector.

Item 15: Wire Harness Retainers Removal Note

Disconnect the wire harness retainers.

Item 16: Transmission Range TR Sensor Electrical Connector Removal Note

Remove and discard the tie strap from the digital TR sensor connector boot.

Slide the rubber boot back and disconnect the digital TR sensor connector.

Item 17: Fluid Cooler Tube Bracket Removal Note

Remove the screws and pushpins, then remove the splash shield.

Disconnect the wire harness from the cooler line bracket.

Disconnect the transmission cooler line bracket.

Item 18: Fluid Cooler Tube Nuts Removal Note

CAUTION: Do not damage the cooler tubes. Hold the transmission case fittings with a wrench.

Disconnect the transmission cooler tubes.

Item 22: Transmission Assembly Removal Note

Carefully lower the transmission from the vehicle. Make sure the transmission fluid cooler and cooler lines are cleaned at this time.
Carry out the transmission fluid cooler — backflushing and cleaning if the transmission is being overhauled or installing a new or remanufactured transmission. For additional information, refer to Transmission Fluid Cooler Backflushing and Cleaning in this section.

alcruz
September 3rd, 2009, 03:05 PM
sorry I couldnt get the illustrations to load but this is directly from ford

Missing Linc'
September 3rd, 2009, 03:16 PM
Holy crap, 6 posts and that was one of them?? You might be the best newbie yet! Hahahha Thanks man, I got the PDF's bookmarked on my laptop.

LS6_5SPD
September 3rd, 2009, 03:47 PM
The fluid is Mercon 5. About quantity, u have to remove a little allen screw it has on the
Bottom of the core with the engine runing and it has to slightly leak from there if it has the right amount
of fluid.
my 2 cents.

Missing Linc'
September 3rd, 2009, 04:41 PM
Alright well how do I add fluid once everything is bolted back together?

ZWilson07
September 3rd, 2009, 05:04 PM
on my gen 2, i didnt do the fluid change i just had my uncle do it in his shop while he was changing all my other fluids but its filled from the bottom up, he put it in a bucket that had a compressed lid and hose running up to a spout the fit right to a small port in the bottom of it and he pumped up into it, so hopefully thats helps your last post.

E.M.
September 3rd, 2009, 10:24 PM
Missin Linc', you're in Vernon CT? I work in Vernon, right off Bolton Road near Ron-A-Roll. When are you planning on doing this? If you need a hand, I'm down.

386Motoring
September 4th, 2009, 12:39 AM
i just did mine.... its simple to add the fluid though.

removing the transmission is a pain in the butt, just accessing the 16 bolts will give you a headache! I had 7 extensions attached to eachother to give me th bend i needed to access them correctly. It took some creative thinking to make that work. I suggest you watch videos on youtube about installing a torque converer, you need to make sure the flat sides, and the splines all line up or you'll crush your converter.

You really should follow the removal directions from the PDF.... it helped me TONS

Removal (http://deneau.info/ls/s6x~us~en~file=s6x71040.htm~gen~ref.htm)

Installation (http://deneau.info/ls/s6x~us~en~file=s6x71052.htm~gen~ref.htm)

386Motoring
September 4th, 2009, 12:45 AM
ok.... i picked up a pump from harbor freight for 5 bucks. locate the fill screw on the rear of the transmission. I forget the size but its an allen wrench that i used. I put some fluid in the torque converter through the opening in the middle, i only put in a half quart. I was told it wasn't needed, but it wouldn't hurt anything. Once the trans was bolted and ALL pieces were checked, then i added 4 quarts through the back. Let the car run to idle temperature, shift through the gears. Then add 2 quarts and do the same. Allow the fluid to catch up to the temperature as the rest, then add 1 quart at a time, slowly till you see it drip out of the center.

Seal everything up... check the torque on the drain bolt which is in the center. If you are tidy with no leaks then take her around the block. My mechanic recommended to drive a hundred miles and then check the fluid again to make sure your set.

So far my car has been running great! Good luck. The trans is a challenge. you will need all weekend and some help.

pics pics pics!!!

Missing Linc'
September 4th, 2009, 01:34 AM
Missin Linc', you're in Vernon CT? I work in Vernon, right off Bolton Road near Ron-A-Roll. When are you planning on doing this? If you need a hand, I'm down.

No :q:q:q:q man! Give me a call when your around and Ill swing by, 931 436 4575 (Baron)

Its getting done this weekend at my boys place in newington, he has a garage and I dont hahh, plus I just built his engine for him so he owes me..

Missing Linc'
September 4th, 2009, 01:36 AM
Pics will come starting tomorrow night hopefully and thanks for posting the PDF's again along with the info!








Im so excited! I just wanna dance!:dancefool LMFAO

386Motoring
September 4th, 2009, 01:43 AM
oops...posted twice
pics pics pics!!!

alcruz
September 4th, 2009, 12:01 PM
I'll probably post more often just got layed off monday from ford lincoln mercury dealership-Do have interview with nissan though

PetesSweets86
September 4th, 2009, 12:08 PM
No :q:q:q:q man! Give me a call when your around and Ill swing by, 931 436 4575 (Baron)

Its getting done this weekend at my boys place in newington, he has a garage and I dont hahh, plus I just built his engine for him so he owes me..

Wow your name is Baron? now everytime I see your name I'm gonna think Red Baron Pizza....very delicious brand :-D that and Freshetta

CrackerJack
September 4th, 2009, 12:24 PM
Sorry to say, but +1

Missing Linc'
September 4th, 2009, 02:19 PM
Sorry I cant be some generic name like Pete... :rolleyes:

PetesSweets86
September 4th, 2009, 02:34 PM
hey I got it too... Pete's Pizza never heard of the company...plus you got baron in relation to airplanes back in the day...I got retarded fairytales and nursery rhymes or Petey Pablo

Missing Linc'
September 5th, 2009, 08:19 AM
Whats this specialty tool nonsense?

Taken from the PDF's - Retainer, Torque Convertor
307-346 (T97T-7902-A)

It looks like a cheapo bracket?? Do I have to go to Ford for this or should I have one already in my current transmission?

Missing Linc'
September 5th, 2009, 01:10 PM
Anyone?? Just fininished disconnecting harness and whatnot but the PDF's say you need this tool to remove the torque converter with the transmission or something like that????? Someone has to know something... I dont think some little bracket is really necesary but I cant be certain.. 386motor you know anything seeing as how you just did this???

kustomizingkid
September 5th, 2009, 01:16 PM
Just whatever you do SEAT THE NEW CONVERTER INTO THE TRANS ALL THE WAY... if you don't severe damage will occur...

Missing Linc'
September 5th, 2009, 01:47 PM
Not even close to that point yet, how do I remove/rotate the torque converter to remove the bolts holding it to the flexplate??

Missing Linc'
September 5th, 2009, 03:09 PM
Its out, Im going to lunch.. :D

Stock converter is a 10" as well by the way

Missing Linc'
September 6th, 2009, 05:59 PM
Day 2..

Im going out to shatter some lives!!! :D

PetesSweets86
September 6th, 2009, 09:22 PM
haha get some vids or pictures of it...I know you got a passenger who probably has steady hands for a camera...if not I know how she can practice :P (jk)

pektel
September 6th, 2009, 10:07 PM
i really can.t believe that that was the only response to such an awesome mod, and as far as i know he.s the first to have done a tc swap on an ls.

great work and excellent initiative, missing linc. this is just as big as the lsd swap.

we should see excellent gains from this. not hp obviously, but the timeslips will show it.

SlickLS
September 6th, 2009, 10:20 PM
:yourock: Day 2..

Im going out to shatter some lives!!! :D

:yourock:

I wish you would have taken pictures for us, but at least you got it done. Have you gone to the track yet? Did you do the whole job by yourself or is this a two person job? About how much time do you have from start to finish?

Missing Linc'
September 6th, 2009, 10:38 PM
I took pictures but my camera is dead, if 2 exhaust manifold bolts didnt break it coulda been done in one day and I used a friends garage, his tools, and he helped.. Track is open wed night only thing is Im running like a 1/2 second slower up here in the mountains than what I was at Bowling Green KY, 14.38 to a 14.8, well see how it goes tho, many videos and pictures to come :D All I can say so far is that my Nitto street slicks have really started to hate their life :eek:

pektel
September 6th, 2009, 10:50 PM
bad f*cking ass. guess what.s next on my list... :D

Missing Linc'
September 6th, 2009, 11:04 PM
I can go take a quick video right now on my cell if you guys want?

pektel
September 6th, 2009, 11:32 PM
you need an lsd... I bet she.d really fly then. And yes on the vid. But maybe start a new thread with the pics and all, with a title other than trans help. So there will be something to search for, ya know?

386Motoring
September 6th, 2009, 11:33 PM
Hey sorry i missed that question. That retainer piece is bull:q:q:q:q. Just another reason to spend money if you ask me. I took the trans apart from the motor with only a few wiggles. You can call me anytime you got any questions about it though. I did a successful swap myself and it was rather easy. I didn't remove my exhaust at all, i just banged it in near the two bolts.

MAKE SURE YOU SEAT THAT MOFUGGIN TORQUE CONVERTER RIGHT!

386-453-5501 call/text .... if i can help, i will

Missing Linc'
September 6th, 2009, 11:53 PM
I just realized its almost 1am here otherwise Id go out and grab that video, tomorrow morning I will tho and yes Ill start another thread to hopefully get sticky'd but itll be in the HiPerf section cause thats where it belongs... Oh and my LS catches both wheels damn near most of the time, actually while I was under the car I spun the driveshaft and both wheels went forward, i grabbed one of the wheels and spun it and the other one didnt go anywhere tho.. :confused: this car is retarded..


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