Dear '93-'98 Lincoln Mark VIII Owners:

I talked to Jim Reichard at www.reichardracing.com (http://www.reichardracing.com/) today about a blower kit that would work with the Eaton, KenneBell and Whipple blowers in the 2.4 displacement arena. You can buy his kit and the blower of your choice to make it work. There may or may not be hood clearance issues on the 1st Gens. Too early to tell. Looks like the 2nd Gen guys should be in the clear, pardon the pun.

In our conversation I mentioned he may have a decent sized market for his product with us Lincoln owners. I mentioned the 'curve' I see coming where more and more of these cars will be modded as there are many 'younger' individuals now coming into ownership who have a desire for increased performance.

Coupled with the fact that these cars are so incredibly cheap for what you get right now, the Mark provides a fantastic opportunity to make our slogan "Class, Style and Attitude" that much more appropriate. Of course, we will have to add the word "Performance" to the title.http://www.lincolnvscadillac.com//images/icons/icon12.gif

Please vote in the poll if you are interested now or at a later time and then make a comment in the thread so we can follow who may be interested.

I will work with Jim to get us a group purchase discount if this project comes to fruition. He has to tackle a couple issues regarding the pulley and bracket mounting, as well as the IMRC deletes and new lower intake. Keep in mind, there are many cheap Eatons out there as the Stang crowd upgrades so getting an extra 150-200 ponies and the low end grunt we desperately need may be just around the corner.http://www.lincolnvscadillac.com//images/icons/icon10.gif

So speak up so I know where we, as the Lincoln Community of Mark VIII owners, stands.

Thank You,

Of course I'm interested, but I'm committed to so much now it would not be immediately.

This is somthing I would get as lond as there were no Gen @ clearince problems at all. I really don't have the time to be cuting and making stuff right now, so if this kit worked just fine then I would pick one up in a hart beat! :yourock:

This is somthing I would get as lond as there were no Gen @ clearince problems at all. I really don't have the time to be cuting and making stuff right now, so if this kit worked just fine then I would pick one up in a hart beat! :yourock:



i'm in....i have been thinking bout a nitrous set up,but would love a blower!!!! :Beer

It would be nice to stay with our stock MAF and injectors (throttle body?) but I think the 24's might be a tad too small. Maybe. At this point, I think all we need is a fuel pump and an AFR. Add a chip tuned to the blower and you might be all set. We are talking 6, maybe 8 pounds of boost using our stock rods and pistons. Enough to make this a 'fun' street car. It certainly won't be a strip monster unless you want to do the bottom end. It's definitely worthwhile exploring so we'll see where this leads us.

It certainly won't be a strip monster unless you want to do the bottom end. It's definitely worthwhile exploring so we'll see where this leads us.

A 4000 lb luxury coupe pullin' 12's wouldn't be a monster? :shifty:

A 4000 lb luxury coupe pullin' 12's wouldn't be a monster? :shifty:

:I :give

hell ya it would

Wanna Laugh. .. I've got a 4000+ T-Bird SC with a puny v6 & a Big Ol'Whipple running 11's. Come March when E-Town opens, I'll hoping to squirt it into the 10's. First gotta get the balls to put the juice in & chance blowing it to kindom come! .... But the joke will be if I can do it with the AC on! :steering


Back to the Mark's. For some reason or another, I though there was something designed for our cars to make a KB fit right in. .... Isn't this charted waters? I figured with this mod motor, it wouldn't be that difficult at all to turn 500+rwhp. I say that knowing damn well that it means money & a couple days under the hood. But, if you got cash & some time, I didn't think it'd be that difficult...

Anthony

I'm down for a twin screw- better than the Vortech I was planning on in the Fall...

I imagine Jim would be making a custom intake manifold.

I don't see the need for the deletes, just have him make a manifold similar to the 03-04 cobra lower intake with B-style ports, maybe modify the stock ford manifold ??? If you keep the IMRC (deleted or not), the space between them is not enough even for a small 4.5x4.5x10 spearco core.

You have to keep in mind that this setup HAS to be intercooled, otherwise it doesn't make much sense, especially when you can have the KB non-intercooled kit for around $3-4k.

Stock injectors will not be sufficient. Stock fuel pump will have to be replaced.

If the kit was supposed to utilize either cobra eaton or other 03-04 cobra specific blower (KB, Whipple), he will have to add a second belt system, preferably 8 rib. Otherwise you would have to change the blower snout to place the pulley in line with the stock system.

If he desiges an intake with intercooled and secondary belt system for around $2k, I'm in.

I am interested as well, but it's hard to say how soon........(not very)......that is unless those lucky #'s finally come in.

Q about this: Am i right to assume that this setup would bolt on and be optimal (after the chip) without any other engine mods?

Yep. I think we can keep everything. May need a couple things like intake tube, fuel pump, etc. If you stay focused on a nice safe street setup, it should work great.

Yep. I think we can keep everything. May need a couple things like intake tube, fuel pump, etc. If you stay focused on a nice safe street setup, it should work great.



cool!!!!i am replacing fuel pump anyway,injectors and a new chip,sounds good,what do you think the total cost would be? est.with all parts,injectors,pump,intercooler? :Beer

No idea at this point. He just started the project and just tore down the engine to see what he is dealing with. As I know, you'll know.

You can adapt the KB kits onto the Marks with ease. Why make a whole new kit for? I have my twin screw supercharged Mark so I am not real game but Im just saying. Plus I could always yank my intake and have it copied.

You can adapt the KB kits onto the Marks with ease. Why make a whole new kit for? I have my twin screw supercharged Mark so I am not real game but Im just saying. Plus I could always yank my intake and have it copied.


geno, would you be able to burn a chip for the blower set up?what am i thinking, of course you can,i am thinking bout selling my reinhart diablo chip and (not a great tune) to a lms chip. crap i'm stealing this thread.......i'll start a new one :N

You can adapt the KB kits onto the Marks with ease. Why make a whole new kit for? I have my twin screw supercharged Mark so I am not real game but Im just saying. Plus I could always yank my intake and have it copied.
ya but does it fit under the stock hood?

Awesome idea, Geno. I actually would like to do this is in the FUTURE, so how much would you ask for a copy of your intake manifold, if I did perhaps consider it in the future. I love the style and performance of twin screw SC's. I also have this damn hood providing all kinds of space, for absolutely nothing... KB would definently be my choice, I also heard they have a intercooled twin screw coming out soon if not out already.

Keep us posted on more info, Bryan...... I definently am of interest. I could already hear that damn SC whining !

Psh... I wish !

ya but does it fit under the stock hood?

MAKE it fit..... if not. ummmm. Don't get it !

:Beer

And I know your the one who is all about keeping the SMOOTH, elegant lines, so this probably wouldn't be the best thing for ya. :N

:joke

You can adapt the KB kits onto the Marks with ease. Why make a whole new kit for? I have my twin screw supercharged Mark so I am not real game but Im just saying. Plus I could always yank my intake and have it copied.The only thing I have seen is the 1.5 KenneBell for $3700 and no innercooler.

If you have an idea, I'm game and listening.

MAKE it fit..... if not. ummmm. Don't get it !

:Beer

And I know your the one who is all about keeping the SMOOTH, elegant lines, so this probably wouldn't be the best thing for ya. :N

:joke
Ok ya I love the lines bot Im all go and fucc show I have no problem cutting a hole in the hood and it looking like sh it but going fast. Besides a bid a$$ hole would look better than most hoods Il seen. so I would just like to keep this car looking stock I have goten it to street racing and like that small edg that a sleaper has.

Ok ya I love the lines bot Im all go and fucc show I have no problem cutting a hole in the hood and it looking like sh it but going fast. Besides a bid a$$ hole would look better than most hoods Il seen. so I would just like to keep this car looking stock I have goten it to street racing and like that small edg that a sleaper has.

Well after "trying" to read your reply, I understand your point about wanting to keep it looking stock and have a "Sleeper" effect. No problem with that. But when putting a twin screw style SC on a Mark8, your going to have to make room for it somehow and shimming the K-member or trying to scavenge room just aint going to cut it. You'll find more work in doing that then actually putting a new, stylish hood, that is FULLY functional and actually benefitting the SC.

Just my .02 . And this is also my opinion, so don't take it personal.

:Beer

Hell, I have the tranny to handle 400+ ponies now, so why not?

I would be very interested. Not now, but eventually. of course, as soon as someone finds me a cowl hood(would have to be first, of course, if clearance was infact a gen 1 issue)

I would love to pull up to a light, and have my "Luxury" car whine like a swarm of bees in a blender!

what im saying is if it fits grate Ill take it. if not then Ill fing somthing eals. there are outher ways of making big power and keeping cool. the hoods look like sh it if any thing I would get somthing made that looked better. hell A big ass hole would look better than that Funny looking hood. it is somthing I would expect from a honda, but not on a lincoln that is just BS

Thats your opinion. We've been over this before. You dont like it? dont look at it.

Form "follows" function. If you need to make room for a 150hp adder, then you just do it. If you think a giant hole looks better than a modified hood...get the dremel, cuz if you swap intakes on a gen 1...you're gonna need room.
:bash:

Thats your opinion. We've been over this before. You dont like it? dont look at it.

Form "follows" function. If you need to make room for a 150hp adder, then you just do it. If you think a giant hole looks better than a modified hood...get the dremel, cuz if you swap intakes on a gen 1...you're gonna need room.
:bash:
GEN 2 and I dont want to be mean but come on guys it is not a mustang, or somthing its better than that its a lincoln and you can just make room or take the time and make it look good and clean. if you want that kind of hood be a kid agen and get a mustang or an F-body.

Find out if the used 03 Eatons will work. If he can mate them up to our engine you can get them on Ebay for 450 to 700 barely used. Add the kit for say 1000 and your screwed for less than 2000!!!

I would be buying in about 6 months if that.

Mike.

Having both the cobra eaton and the 2nd gen in my carage, I can assure you all that it will not fit under the stock hood on 2nd gen cars, let alone 1st gen. The inlet elbow, even if it sat right on the valve cover, (which it doesn't even on 03 cobra) will not clear the hood. Neither will the original pulley. Maybe the 2.80 or smaller would, but I wouldn't run that much boost on stock internals. With a stock 98 cobra intake it is very close to the hood, you actually have to bend some tabs to clear it. The eaton is even taller. 1st Gen guys will need at least the cobra r hood.

Having said that, fab work is mandatory anytime you install something on this car.

GEN 2 and I dont want to be mean but come on guys it is not a mustang, or somthing its better than that its a lincoln and you can just make room or take the time and make it look good and clean. if you want that kind of hood be a kid agen and get a mustang or an F-body.


:Bang :bash: :F argue2 :L :soapbox: :soapbox: :soapbox:
Dirt clown...age has nothing to do with it. If you have ever studied the roots of drag racing, or any form of auto racing, you would realize, your comments are moot.

But I refuse to argue with you about this. For one reason, it is pointless. I am going to do to my car whatever the heck I want to. But for the sake of explaining why I think your entire concept is narrow minded, I will continue.

You are making the statement that can be defined as narrow minded. I suppose adding aftermarket rims is wrong? how about a chip in the computer? Improved shocks? What about and improved sound system? Tinted windows? oh, an aftermarket cup holder? sesnor lowering? Pin striping? Engine dress up kits?

My point is, adding an aftermarket body panel is no different. The appearance of a car is strictly on a personal level. but to actually "bash" someone's ideas for their car's over-all look, and foremost functionality, is downright "teenager" mentality.

I apologize for going off on a rant, but if everyone here were to follow your words of wisdom, the aftermarket auto industry would go belly up, and every car on earth would be a plain-jane, boring box on wheels, probably in flat black, or brown.

One of the very best parts of OWNING a car, is having the right, and the ability to "make it your own" without fear of irrational comments from the peanut gallery.

Just remember this:
Had Carol Shelby been content with a plane jane Mustang, you might not be driving the mark VIII...you could be driving a fairmont. And if Zora Duntov was content with carburated engines, then you'd be driving a 2-bbl equipped Fairmont...probably in flat black, or brown.

reap the benefits of modern-day visionaries. If not for them, we would have no sense of style, performance, and individualization.

besides, at least you'd know it was my car coming at you, not just another plain old black Mark VIII...or brown faimont, for that matter.

ok, rant over. Mods, if i am crossing the line, i apologize. But if folks are allowed to criticize another man's ideas, then they should be prepared to handle the defense.

In closing, I have a bone-stock bodied 94, and a bone-stock bodied 97 LSC. I love the looks beyond all words. But my priorities are different than most. I can only enjoy the appearance of a car, if it has the power to back it up. if i want/need to add more power, but cannot due to clearance issues, I'll make room. You can be sure of that. If that means adding a Cobra R hood...you bet your :q I will.

...One of the very best parts of OWNING a car, is having the right, and the ability to "make it your own" ...

Three cheers. From my work truck to my personal vehicles, you have always been able to recognize me coming and they have always left a statement. :Beer

I believe that the main reason there aren't more blown Marks is because, like was previously stated, to upgrade on this car you have to modify and fabricate. If someone can come up with a bolt-on s/c kit that will fit on my gen 2 with little to know modifications for $2 g's, then I'd be crazy not to consider buying one. If they can't, then thanks for trying. :Beer

All I can tell you is I have been on a crusade for the last 6 months to get somebody in the industry to finally give it a real whack. I have diligently been advising the community that there is a significant interest on the Lincoln side for something like this to happen. Seeing a flotilla of Marks out kicking a$$ and taking names would be the delight of my life.http://www.lincolnvscadillac.com//images/icons/icon10.gif

look if you like the hood its cool It's just not for me. I really want to S/C my car, but I also want to keep the stock hood. I have neaver liked that style but thats just me. I have no problems with rims thay can look good when done right. I love thise cars for the Go and for the inside it is a really nice car. and if you think it looks good then do it. there is nothing more importent then likeing your car, that is why I hate it when people ask me if I think thes rims will look good on there car. It does not matter what I or any one thinks as long as like it. so get the hood or don't I wouldent, but thats me. I know thes cars need things to be made for them, that is a good thing, and I just want the car to stay Lincoln.maby not stock looking but at least alond the same lincoln lines. some of you all do have really cool cars here with the hood, its just not my style. if it is yours than go for it. you are right this is pointless. what this is about is a S/C kit that would fit under the stock hood on a gen 2. If the price is right Ill still get it and find out somthing to do with the hood.

ya but does it fit under the stock hood?

No and it will NOT on a Gen 1, a Gen 2 would fit an eaton because that was Ford's intention, hence the "bubble".

On a Gen 1 you have to do this:


http://www.lincolnmotorsport.com/tascahood3.jpg

Note above the bubble and then the relief in the center and the notch at the rear of the underhood. Also if you could see behind the blower the black cowl area is trimmed to.


http://www.lincolnmotorsport.com/tascahood4.jpg

Awesome idea, Geno. I actually would like to do this is in the FUTURE, so how much would you ask for a copy of your intake manifold, if I did perhaps consider it in the future. I love the style and performance of twin screw SC's. I also have this damn hood providing all kinds of space, for absolutely nothing... KB would definently be my choice, I also heard they have a intercooled twin screw coming out soon if not out already.

Keep us posted on more info, Bryan...... I definently am of interest. I could already hear that damn SC whining !

Psh... I wish !

Jon its like ANYthing for the Lincolns, demand will dictate production and I have to tell you there would have to be a TON of orders to make me dismantle that car.

ok back to the Possible Twin-Screw Blower Deal. when and how much?

Wanna Laugh. .. I've got a 4000+ T-Bird SC with a puny v6 & a Big Ol'Whipple running 11's. Come March when E-Town opens, I'll hoping to squirt it into the 10's. First gotta get the balls to put the juice in & chance blowing it to kindom come! .... But the joke will be if I can do it with the AC on! :steering

Anthony

i love the pic of your sc sticking out the hole in your hood. i have a friend who has the same thing on his Z06, completely sick. very nice car you have there man.

MAKE it fit..... if not. ummmm. Don't get it !

:Beer

And I know your the one who is all about keeping the SMOOTH, elegant lines, so this probably wouldn't be the best thing for ya. :N

:joke

he's not the only one, i don't want a cowl on my mark. i do like the look of that first gen bubble, however.

:Bang :bash: :F argue2 :L :soapbox: :soapbox: :soapbox:
Dirt clown...age has nothing to do with it. If you have ever studied the roots of drag racing, or any form of auto racing, you would realize, your comments are moot.

But I refuse to argue with you about this. For one reason, it is pointless. I am going to do to my car whatever the heck I want to. But for the sake of explaining why I think your entire concept is narrow minded, I will continue.

You are making the statement that can be defined as narrow minded. I suppose adding aftermarket rims is wrong? how about a chip in the computer? Improved shocks? What about and improved sound system? Tinted windows? oh, an aftermarket cup holder? sesnor lowering? Pin striping? Engine dress up kits?

My point is, adding an aftermarket body panel is no different. The appearance of a car is strictly on a personal level. but to actually "bash" someone's ideas for their car's over-all look, and foremost functionality, is downright "teenager" mentality.

I apologize for going off on a rant, but if everyone here were to follow your words of wisdom, the aftermarket auto industry would go belly up, and every car on earth would be a plain-jane, boring box on wheels, probably in flat black, or brown.

One of the very best parts of OWNING a car, is having the right, and the ability to "make it your own" without fear of irrational comments from the peanut gallery.

Just remember this:
Had Carol Shelby been content with a plane jane Mustang, you might not be driving the mark VIII...you could be driving a fairmont. And if Zora Duntov was content with carburated engines, then you'd be driving a 2-bbl equipped Fairmont...probably in flat black, or brown.

reap the benefits of modern-day visionaries. If not for them, we would have no sense of style, performance, and individualization.

besides, at least you'd know it was my car coming at you, not just another plain old black Mark VIII...or brown faimont, for that matter.

ok, rant over. Mods, if i am crossing the line, i apologize. But if folks are allowed to criticize another man's ideas, then they should be prepared to handle the defense.

In closing, I have a bone-stock bodied 94, and a bone-stock bodied 97 LSC. I love the looks beyond all words. But my priorities are different than most. I can only enjoy the appearance of a car, if it has the power to back it up. if i want/need to add more power, but cannot due to clearance issues, I'll make room. You can be sure of that. If that means adding a Cobra R hood...you bet your :q I will.

EXTREMELY WELL SAID!

No and it will NOT on a Gen 1, a Gen 2 would fit an eaton because that was Ford's intention, hence the "bubble".

On a Gen 1 you have to do this:


http://www.lincolnmotorsport.com/tascahood3.jpg

Note above the bubble and then the relief in the center and the notch at the rear of the underhood.

I am not even sure but aren't all the Gen 1 hoods glass, or just the '93? Because if they are glass, what could be easier.

The idea is to get an intake that deletes our IMRC system and will alow the screw to 'blot' right up to the heads with minimal effort.

Then all you have to do is go shopping for a used Eaton or Whipple or Kenne Bell. I see them al the time on Ebay. I have no idea where this is going but I plan to stay in touch with Jim on a regular basis and will even see if I can get him to chime in over here now and then with an update.

Most of us just want a decent street car/daily driver and the twin screws or eatons will make the cars incredibly more fun to drive. Just ask Geno.http://www.lincolnvscadillac.com//images/icons/icon14.gif

I am not even sure but aren't all the Gen 1 hoods glass, or just the '93? Because if they are glass, what could be easier.

The idea is to get an intake that deletes our IMRC system and will alow the screw to 'blot' right up to the heads with minimal effort.

Then all you have to do is go shopping for a used Eaton or Whipple or Kenne Bell. I see them al the time on Ebay. I have no idea where this is going but I plan to stay in touch with Jim on a regular basis and will even see if I can get him to chime in over here now and then with an update.

Most of us just want a decent street car/daily driver and the twin screws or eatons will make the cars incredibly more fun to drive. Just ask Geno.http://www.lincolnvscadillac.com//images/icons/icon14.gif

ALL Gen 1's outer skin is fiberglas.....as discussed at length in another post..... :Beer

hey what makes a Twin-Screw Blower better than say a vortec?

hey what makes a Twin-Screw Blower better than say a vortec?

Torque at low rpms.

http://www.mn12performance.com/magnuson/magnuson.htm

ALL Gen 1's outer skin is fiberglas.....as discussed at length in another post..... :Beer


you mean all my doors, truck, etc is glass? could you link the thread that talks about this? thanks.

I would do this if it could be made into a package where you get the chip/dynotune and all the accesories together with some instructions, or if there were a place to go and just have it done professionally. I would love to have it but I'm fairly new to working on cars and I wouldn't want to mess it up bad.

I would do this if it could be made into a package where you get the chip/dynotune and all the accesories together with some instructions, or if there were a place to go and just have it done professionally. I would love to have it but I'm fairly new to working on cars and I wouldn't want to mess it up bad.

I agree, I would do it for the whole package

you mean all my doors, truck, etc is glass? could you link the thread that talks about this? thanks.


What he was referring to was the outer skin of the Gen 1 Mark VIII hoods. The outer layer is a resin composite...pretty much what we refer to as "fiberglass". The rest of the car is sheet metal.

gen 2 hoods are aluminum.

EXTREMELY WELL SAID!

Ditto. But, may I ask, what the hell does a Cobra R hood look like?

Ditto. But, may I ask, what the hell does a Cobra R hood look like?http://www.lincolnvscadillac.com/vbgarage.php?do=getimage&id=761

I would go for the Gen 1 hood with the bubble and two ports as well. Too bad someone doesn't just make a mold and sell them.



http://www.lincolnvscadillac.com/vbgarage.php?do=getimage&id=761

Dave...you've seen my car now....that Cobra R hood would look exactly like straydog's, huh? Our cars are almost clones(except his chrome is blacked out). Same 20 spokes and all...Man I want that hood.

BTW, did you like the ride in my car? if so...PIPE UP!!! Share with these folks, so they know, from a true witness!

I am interested right now. I am buying a second 1 st gen, and a T56 is sitting in the garage to go behind it.

Well, well, Mr Ice. I think there is some soap missing somewhere, because you are standing on the box:).

But I agree. Hell, without inovators, we would still be beating our clothes on a rock to get them clean. Or using cell phone the size of bricks. Or, as in my case, using slide rules in college for calculus rather than nifty little electric calculators.

And for you guys that think that I am old, it wasn't that long ago that calculators became cheap enough to own. Well, actually, it was sometime when dinasours stopped roaming the earth, but, heck, that wasn't THAT long ago, was it?

But seriously (sorry, I don't think I really can be) I would settle for the hood on Geno's car. He should just let someone make a mold, and sell the damn things, and all would be well. I think the two ports are just plain cool looking, especially if it allows me to get the front wheels off the ground on lift off.

The cobra hoods are alright, but the square stuff breaks up all the round stuff on the car. I could live with the hump if the two ports would work. Or even a nice wide but low slot that doesn't break up the lines too much for the extra air.

But before I forget, send me my list of stuff I need for the first phase of mods on my 96. It is pitching a fit with me because it wants extra stuff to go faster and jump higher (ok, that ages me-that was the old Keds commercial).

But thanks for the fun dialogue. It always keeps me entertained. It assures me that there are other crazies who love this car as much as I do-enough to even argue. That is love, dudes. Scary, but true.

Dave

Law school has been eating away at my time and life, and also from my Mark.

I had the luxury of taking a ride in his car, and the tranny is perfect, the suspension tight, and the sound just right. His car is really nice, and that is why he is getting my 96 with only 43k original miles to work on. I want mine to run like that.

I understand the Cobra hood would be different, and I could live with the Cobra mod. But more fundamental to the hood, what are the steps to accomodate the 4.6 for a blower. I mean, you just don't attach it and drive away. Could you give a little primer to folks like me who spend all their time in school, and don'k know which way to turn the wrench (hey, at least I am honest about it) on what is involved, and how much to have done (assuming someone else does it) That would be most appreciated.

And as soon as I get a few minutes to put some wax on my ride, I will post some pics. It really is in perfect shape, and I would get another if I had the chance.

Keep up the good work, Mr. Ice. Your ride gave me inspiration to make sure Mr. Ford understands that there are changes that need to be made to his car, and these changes will be good! And send me that LIST of stuff needed for stage one mods-tranny, chip, ingition, mufflers, etc.

Be good and talk to you all after finals!

Dave

Where can I obtain a hood like that?



No and it will NOT on a Gen 1, a Gen 2 would fit an eaton because that was Ford's intention, hence the "bubble".

On a Gen 1 you have to do this:


http://www.lincolnmotorsport.com/tascahood3.jpg

Note above the bubble and then the relief in the center and the notch at the rear of the underhood. Also if you could see behind the blower the black cowl area is trimmed to.


http://www.lincolnmotorsport.com/tascahood4.jpg

Any one hear any more on the SC for our Marks yet? :L

Patience my son. Things are moving forward.

Patience my son. Things are moving forward.

:I

It takes lots of patience and time. My grill project has taken me nearly six months now when I thought I'd have it ready in two. Lots and lots of patience.

Dear '93-'98 Lincoln Mark VIII Owners:

I talked to Jim Reichard at www.reichardracing.com (http://www.reichardracing.com/) today about a blower kit that would work with the Eaton, KenneBell and Whipple blowers in the 2.4 displacement arena. You can buy his kit and the blower of your choice to make it work. There may or may not be hood clearance issues on the 1st Gens. Too early to tell. Looks like the 2nd Gen guys should be in the clear, pardon the pun.

In our conversation I mentioned he may have a decent sized market for his product with us Lincoln owners. I mentioned the 'curve' I see coming where more and more of these cars will be modded as there are many 'younger' individuals now coming into ownership who have a desire for increased performance.

Coupled with the fact that these cars are so incredibly cheap for what you get right now, the Mark provides a fantastic opportunity to make our slogan "Class, Style and Attitude" that much more appropriate. Of course, we will have to add the word "Performance" to the title.http://www.lincolnvscadillac.com//images/icons/icon12.gif

Please vote in the poll if you are interested now or at a later time and then make a comment in the thread so we can follow who may be interested.

I will work with Jim to get us a group purchase discount if this project comes to fruition. He has to tackle a couple issues regarding the pulley and bracket mounting, as well as the IMRC deletes and new lower intake. Keep in mind, there are many cheap Eatons out there as the Stang crowd upgrades so getting an extra 150-200 ponies and the low end grunt we desperately need may be just around the corner.http://www.lincolnvscadillac.com//images/icons/icon10.gif

So speak up so I know where we, as the Lincoln Community of Mark VIII owners, stands.

Thank You,
I am very interested in this deal myself as to why I bought my 2nd MK8 for a engine toi start working on this fall. I can see a 9 INCH COWL IN THE FUTURE J Butler

Possible Twin-Screw Blower Deal
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is there any new info or is this just "were can I get that hood" X 100
WTF lets get back to the Twin-Screw Blower Deal :soapbox: :thread: :soapbox:

I would love to do it now!!! Someone show me a way to put an 03-04 Cobra Eaton on my Gen 1 and I'll do it. All my fears are gone about it and I just want to "Git-Er-Done". If everyone's scared to tackle this or if the profit margin is high enough, I'll just get a Vortech and be happy!! But I, for one, am ready to get blown...even if it means having the Mad Max look.

MAKE it fit..... if not. ummmm. Don't get it !

:Beer

And I know your the one who is all about keeping the SMOOTH, elegant lines, so this probably wouldn't be the best thing for ya. :N

:joke
Twin-screw...I'm a twin, sounds like a good idea. Planned on this addition, but needs to be budgeted in, currently in process. Keep the info coming. New hood & the performance to back it up....nice. Thanks, Ed :I

I would be interested in the future also.

Interested now!

dude im down with that :q:q:q:q!

this is neaver going to happon

this is neaver going to happon


Even if it doesn't happen, at least somebody is trying. Whereas you are just sitting there bitching about how it's not going to happen. Are you working on engineering a blower setup for our cars?

sorry Im not the one who started this and got 36 people to say yes and has not given any info about any thing. so I say forget it some thing happend and the deal is not going to happen.

sorry Im not the one who started this and got 36 people to say yes and has not given any info about any thing. so I say forget it some thing happend and the deal is not going to happen.I have been working hard to make this happen. I have not been interested in putting out every little detail because people would be going crazy as some of you are now.

Here's the problem so everybody understands. There are several parties working on this project. One individual I talked to today has indicated that their attempt to 'modify' existing manifolds to work with screw compressors has not panned out. The other groups are still working on it. One problem that has developed is that if there appears that there might be several companies introducing the same solution, one or two companies might back out for fear of too many suppliers chasing too few customers. I have identified 52 owners that appear to be ready to plunk down deposit money to make this happen. When the products get to prototype stage, then deposits will be requested.

So the problem is, the more this gets talked about, the more interest there is but also, from a vendors viewpoint, the more players and more risk as the ability to make a return on investment dwindles with more players entering into a finite market. If you are looking to bolt on a blower today or even next month, I would say move on and get yourself a Vortech or Paxton. If your looking to put on a screw or turbo, I'd hang in there. This will happen. There is lots of talk about how this engine group has been ignored and people are starting to pay attention.

Hope this helps. Best i can do at this point without shooting ourselves in the foot by chasing off a vendor or two.

Take care.

Thanks for all the effort you are putting into this Bryan.

Bryan, Very well said. New things take time and money "tryal and error"
I have not made any decissions yet, but am following your updates Bryan thank you. :I :W

I would be immediately interested in a Kenne Bell version.

Bill

98 MK8

How about someone put together a package (for the Mark VIII engine) with KB 1.7 blower, KB cobra 96-98 open house manifold, and optional water injection boost cooling (snow or another kit). Without the boost cooler, you could get 375 - 400 HP (6-8 PSI). With the boost cooler you could go 9-14 psi (up to 475-500 HP maybe?). Throw in injectors, MAF, upgraded fuel pump, and the chip and/or dyno tune, and you have a nice twin screw package with off-the-shelf, currently available parts. And you don't have to fabricate a manifold as the 1.7 bolts right on.

I'd be interested.

http://www.cardomain.com/id/57tbird

Mike McNamee

Go to Sullivan Performance products,

http://www.sullivanperformance.com/index.htm

and click the "Tell us what you want" link on the left hand side of the page (near the bottom). Click the "4.6L B heads" engine option. Then the "positive displacement blower option" Then pick the 2.2L KB blower.

They are getting ready to make a positive displacement blower intake for the 5.4L DOHC, and I'd like them to make the next one for 96-98 cobras and 93-98 Mark VIIIs. If enough people ask for it, they will make one, so spread the word.

done!

Go to Sullivan Performance products,

http://www.sullivanperformance.com/index.htm

and click the "Tell us what you want" link on the left hand side of the page (near the bottom). Click the "4.6L B heads" engine option. Then the "positive displacement blower option" Then pick the 2.2L KB blower.

They are getting ready to make a positive displacement blower intake for the 5.4L DOHC, and I'd like them to make the next one for 96-98 cobras and 93-98 Mark VIIIs. If enough people ask for it, they will make one, so spread the word.Talked to hubby and wife at Sullivan months ago when this 1st surfaced and they informed that they are a ways from starting, much less getting it done. They were pretty late on the 5.4L and she said it was going to be a while. I think they want to see how that market plays out before jumping into another. They are one of the sources that is a little nervous about too many players getting into this at the same time. Don't know if they are leaning twin-screw or centrifugal/turbo route. If we get anything at all, it will be one or the other. The trick will be to get 2 different parties, each doing one so we get our choice. That would be the cat's meow. I gave them our site and poll numbers so they could chew on it.

Again thank you for you time and effort. I will be interested in either product.Patience is a virtue.At least someone is interested .

I know it's been a while since anyone said anything in this topic, but wanted to say that I'm interested in this product as well. Just bought a '98 Mark VIII LSC recently and need to speed it up!

Here's the only one that you can bolt on today, on ebay. They don't come up on ebay often, so now's someone's chance to try it out on a Mark VIII.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1,1&item=7978450645&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWA%3AIT

If I didn't have to buy a new front clip and suspension for about the same price; I'd get it, then throw on a snow boost cooler, so I could run more psi (while saving up for a forged shortblock).

Here's the only one that you can bolt on today, on ebay. They don't come up on ebay often, so now's someone's chance to try it out on a Mark VIII.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1,1&item=7978450645&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWA%3AIT

If I didn't have to buy a new front clip and suspension for about the same price; I'd get it, then throw on a snow boost cooler, so I could run more psi (while saving up for a forged shortblock).

that will bolt on to a stock mark viii?.

that will bolt on to a stock mark viii?.

Yes.

Been almost 2 months since last word, any more updates?

:L

Been watching this topic for a while, I'm considering trading in one demo car to build a 11 sec Lincoln. Were not in a position to wait to long it must be started by fall.

If anyone has info on weather this will happen or not please let me know at:
MooreExcess2004@yahoo.ca
www.Macrom.it

John Moore

last post was 7/05 any new info on this topic?

Nope.....and to be honest..... Your better off upgrading to C heads, and using OEM ford parts to bolt an eaton/KB/Whipple on a mark.


My 2 cents.

I totally agree with you on the modding thing, it would be nice to see a kit come out like that.
Maybe they can make a special cowl that can be added to our stock hoods by a local bodyshop.
Or some kind of ram air scoop like the str chargers have.
I think an adapter kit for the 03/04 screws would be the cheapest route for now, what better way to ensure that good parts will not be wasted?
Count me in!

Wow this is a good subject base on the dates I would say that this a dead issue, too bad it would be cool to have a screwed lsc.

this sucks

The KB has kits out right now for the B heads, they aren't the greatest since they are not intercooled but they are better than nothing.

wow. 2 year old thread. guess it went nowhere.


ive abandoned my eaton project in favor of twin GT3037s. i prefer turbos anyways.

Probably too early to ask this, but would there be packages for higher boost? such as maybe 13 to maybe even around 18 psi? And any thoughts on maybe even an intercooler with it?