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valve tap?

taxiowns
March 17th, 2009, 02:13 PM
Well iv had this tap after it over heated :( can u tell me what u think it is plz
and any idea of how much it will cost to fix.

YouTube - My Mark Tapping/Clicking/Knocking (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XVJryifUTVo)

johnboy89
March 17th, 2009, 06:55 PM
Unfortunately I can't tell you what it is, but mine does the exact same thing. There are others out there that have the same noise, but I've yet to see the cause and cure. I have been driving mine for over a year like this now and still runs fine. Most of the ones I've seen with this have been a first gen though???

http://www.lincolnvscadillac.com/showthread.php?t=41814

Abbens
March 17th, 2009, 07:11 PM
were you always up to date on your oilchanges?

shiryu0
March 17th, 2009, 07:23 PM
when i worked at Chrysler i had two 3.5 engines that sounded like diesels, the little bearing on the rocker arm took a crap and it was grinding on the cam lobe.......eating away at it :eek:

but the 4.6's cams are set up different so i doubt thats happening here, or the others............valve spring? :confused:

chicken
March 17th, 2009, 08:22 PM
some have cam tensioner issues, pull the valve covers and the front cover and have a look at everything

taxiowns
March 18th, 2009, 12:25 PM
heh well iv had some people look at it 1 thought it was valve spring iv had this problem for about a year now also its a 93 iv heard 93-95 have bad valve springs so maybe thats it and yes i kept up with my oil changes.

htrdlincoln98
March 18th, 2009, 01:31 PM
Right the engine in the vid looks like a 98. definitly a gen two mark 97-98. it doesn't look to be a 93 engine. good luck

kustomizingkid
March 18th, 2009, 02:26 PM
Thats not a 93... lol... unless it's a 93 long block....

taxiowns
March 18th, 2009, 03:02 PM
I know in vid its not a 93 but mine makes same noise just like that.

kustomizingkid
March 18th, 2009, 03:46 PM
So that isn't your car?

XLRVIII
March 18th, 2009, 03:52 PM
Just because it "isn't" a 93 doesnt mean it's impossible to break a valve spring.

Pull the valve cover and see what's up.

IMHO I would just "R&R"/Remove and Replace the engine.

by the time you wrestle the valve cover off, you could drop the motor out the bottom and have it sitting on the ground in front of you.

chunk another non rattling motor in there and go on your happy way.

johnboy89
March 18th, 2009, 06:54 PM
Just because it "isn't" a 93 doesnt mean it's impossible to break a valve spring.

Pull the valve cover and see what's up.

IMHO I would just "R&R"/Remove and Replace the engine.

by the time you wrestle the valve cover off, you could drop the motor out the bottom and have it sitting on the ground in front of you.

chunk another non rattling motor in there and go on your happy way.

I pulled my passenger valve cover and could'nt find anything, as that's where the sound is coming from.

I have another engine just sitting and waiting, I can't justify pulling it yet as it still runs very well.

shiryu0
March 18th, 2009, 07:07 PM
do what chicken mentioned, sometimes you gotta stare at the thing and youll eventually see the problem........get a rubber mallet start tapping stuff, turn the engine with the covers off and watch stuff move......

johnboy89
March 19th, 2009, 06:45 AM
The only thng that I seen and maybe I should have mentioned it in my previous post was that the secondary cam chain would be loose and then the engine would be rotated and then it would tighten. Turn the engine again or a few times and then it would loosen again, wasn't sure if this was a problem or not?? I do know that the noise gets better when you give it some gas and this would make sense on a defective cam tensioner???

Does anybody know if these can be changed in the car and without having to remove the cams???

lscmkviii
March 19th, 2009, 12:47 PM
Lash adjusters!!!

ONEBADMK8
March 19th, 2009, 12:57 PM
Sounds like a sticky follower to me. Had the problem in TerminVIIIor for about 30 min.

Then it went away on its own and never returned.

98LSC32V
March 19th, 2009, 05:44 PM
Run some Marvel Mystery Oil in the crankcase and then get the oil changed... it might work. That definately doesn't sound like you dropped a valve, I would bet on the lash adjuster like someone else said.

taxiowns
March 20th, 2009, 11:30 AM
so yea thats not my mark 8 in vid but it sounds just like it also i cant afford a new engine lol thats 2200 just for engine. someone told me it could be a follower or valve spring but said if it is he wont fix cost to much and not worth it... also what is a lash adjuster? never heard of that. thanks for all the comments i hope to get this fixed soon

johnboy89
March 20th, 2009, 02:45 PM
I would search for another used engine and hold onto so when it does go. The big question is how long can you drive it the way it is? I've driven mine for the past year, put on about 6,000mi. as long as you can deal with the ticking?

Aquabrit
March 20th, 2009, 02:47 PM
Sounds like a sticky follower to me. Had the problem in TerminVIIIor for about 30 min.

Then it went away on its own and never returned.

+1 on that. If my car hasn't been started in a few weeks, they'll tick-tick-tick then stop.

CobraStar_LS8
March 20th, 2009, 06:01 PM
my '93 did that too...that's after the previous owner left it sitting for a year but it went away after driving it for 30mins or so...never returned

taxiowns
March 21st, 2009, 12:21 PM
ok well this i is the history of my car lol my dads boss wife had it to get her nails done for about 100k miles. Iv had for about 12k and the tap has been goin for about 6-7k. Now it was sitting for about 1-2 years before i got everything done hoses belts and suspension. Also my car over heated but i let cool down but drove warm (new driver) *very bad choice* dident have cell and was cold out :(. and the tap started :( so no clue :(.

lscmkviii
March 22nd, 2009, 06:43 AM
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