I was at a dealership the other day and a salesman started talking about my LS. Then he said that he worked at a Ford dealership when the LS's where in production and they made the LSE V8 in auto and straight shift. I was always told V8 auto only!!! But if this is true i want a straight shift and my auto. Before anyone says maybe overseas i know they are straight shift overseas in V8 form so that is already known lol.:confused:

straight shift?

yep that is what he said and said that's what he drove on vacation from the dealership. i've never seen one in america but...

there was never a V8 manual - ever.

Sure he wasn't referring to the SST?

yes like i said we were talking about my LS lol. AS for the reply from QuikLS, I hope your talking as in America only? Not trying to start a argument but some countries do not allow automatic cars to be sold so the cars overseas are made with straight shift. Just like right side drive LS's which i would love to have lol!!!!!

Ok.

nope - no manual v8 ever.

Ok. i may quote you on that later in time Quik lol! As for now i'll leave it the way everyone says.;)

bank on it.

I might go by there this week and ask him again. He might have been talking about the auto-manual shift like mine lol. But from what he said there was actual straight-shift V8's but only in 1-2 year models and only the LSE. IDK lmao. But i do wish!!!!!

the LLSOC have 'most' of the production VINs, members in spain, france, UK, Japan - no manuals. The Ford transmission engineer that work on the LS is a member as well......

even the McLaren concept:
"McLaren Performance Technologies also created its own, unique bellhousing arrangement to mate a Tremec six-speed manual transmission to the Lincoln 3.9-liter V8 engine."
was sold with the 5R55N in place...

the LLSOC have 'most' of the production VINs, members in spain, france, UK, Japan - no manuals. The Ford transmission engineer that work on the LS is a member as well......

even the McLaren concept:
"McLaren Performance Technologies also created its own, unique bellhousing arrangement to mate a Tremec six-speed manual transmission to the Lincoln 3.9-liter V8 engine."
was sold with the 5R55N in place...

Good point.

to the OP: There was available the standard shift LSE with the v6. They are rare and many people, who dont know any better, assume since it is a LSE then it must be a v8; not true.
SST is as close to "manual" as you will get with a v8, LSE or straight LS.

I had a chance to buy a manual LS... wish I would have jumped... that would have made an awesome DD.

2,331 manual transmission Lincoln LS V6 produced, -0- V8.

Iv'e never seen a Lincoln LS from another country..... :P not even canada....haha

You do know a lot of salesmen talk :q:q:q:q when it comes to cars...they don't even have to know about5 a brand to get hired....it's like going to a shoesalesman and asking which are the best shoes EVER made...he'll show you too the priciest one he wants to make commission on......just an opinion :P

Are you on E again?

No..tired from gym....and starving.....speaking of which I haven't eaten since 3pm so time for nom noms :P

Not trying to start a argument but some countries do not allow automatic cars to be sold so the cars overseas are made with straight shift.

News to me. :confused:

What countries?

Mine is a v-8 manual, I live in the UK I have pictures if you wanna see

Mine is a v-8 manual, I live in the UK I have pictures if you wanna see

i'd bet 98% of members here would love to see that, also step outside and try taking a pic of a unicorn while your at it

i'd bet 98% of members here would love to see that, also step outside and try taking a pic of a unicorn while your at it

Ok it might look like a CTS interior but that's all custom:cool:


:shifty: << watch him.. he's about the steal something

I think Cartmen found the Unicorn..then did a lil "red rocket" on it :P
Sorry to those who haven't seen that episode :/

99% salesman don't know their butt from a hole in the ground. And I have two salesman in my family. I know way, way more than both of them combined. Salesman know more about crunching numbers than the product they are paid to sell.

Wow, you guys are pretty tough on salespeople. Yes, some are greedy and only concerned about commissions. Those are the stupid ones. I feel bad that you have only dealt with stupid people.

A smart salesperson paid on commission (like myself), wants the same thing. The most money for the least amount of time. But I have a different approach than "just crunching numbers" as Lincoln Luebbe so eloquently stated.

I have excellent product knowledge in my field, and can qualify a customer as to what product will best meet their needs. I don't sell them something they don't need, and I don't sell them something they won't be happy with. I actually care about the projects I work on, and follow through with the project from start to finish. I work extra hard to resolve any issues that may arise during the process.

All of those things create trust with a customer (and it should, since they can trust me with their project). Building a trust relationship with a customer is probably the most time consuming part of the sale.

I depend on my customers to refer me to their friends. When a customer has a great experience with me, and refers me to their friends, that trust is already there when they come in. It saves me a bunch of time, and I can go right into the qualifying stage. Less time spent on the project, and more money in my pocket.

But no loss in customer service. See my point? Not all salespeople (especially not 99%) are money hungry morons.

And to the OP, there was no production V8 manual transission option on the LS.

I'm in sales and I'm out to screw you. :shifty:

Kidding, talk to any of my customers and they will tell you differently. Of course, I've worked with plenty of the kind you are talking about. And they do tend to frequent automotive establishments.

Do you want the window etching and undercarriage protection with that?

I'm sure there are many salesmen who take their job seriously...hell even I was in the commission sales department a few years back.....and was able to sell 50k more products than anyone else because of being knowledge based....but anyways back to the original thread...

Guys, I sincerely meant no offense by my statements.
My brother in-law and father in-law are both great people who work hard and who I wouldn't think twice about them screwing someone in anyway. But I can only speak from my personal experience and my point was this;
I have never, ever, ever been to a Lincoln or Ford dealership (being that is all I buy) where the salesman actually knew what they were talking about without basically reading it off the sticker. I have literally experienced salesmen who misquoted me engine sizes and options available for certain cars.
You don't have to know alot about cars to be a good car salesman for the normal consumer. Just get them the car they picked out at the payments that they want.
I on the other hand, do independent research before I go to the dealership so when a salesman at a Lincoln delaership doesn't even know that Navigators came with A/C seats, (which they have for years) but knew off the top of his head what monthly payment he could "put me in it for" I know what I am up against. Just to pick out one example.
I can only speak from my own experience and I know there are good salesmen out there. But the original topic just brought to mind the many years of misinformation I have seen at the surrounding dealerships.
Thought about selling Lincolns myself for a while-

I also wasn't clear in my original statement...
Car salesman- Especially used, excuse me-"pre-owned".

Do you want the window etching and undercarriage protection with that?
fell for that when i bought my '03 kia spectra....

I also wasn't clear in my original statement...
Car salesman- Especially used, excuse me-"pre-owned".


That makes more sense. :D