http://www.indystar.com/article/20081225/NEWS0502/812250419

Similar law suits have been filed in Alabama, Georgia, Illinois and Michiganthe past few days.

Obama...show us the damn birth certificate. This is not going away no matter how much you wish it.

The dispute about Obama's citizenship has been addressed by the nonpartisan group factcheck.org, which reports: "FactCheck .org staffers have now seen, touched, examined and photographed the original birth certificate. We conclude that it meets all of the requirements from the State Department for proving U.S. citizenship. . . . Our conclusion: Obama was born in the U.S.A. just as he has always said."

Maybe they should file a lawsuit against factcheck.org?

I don't understand how a man can make it this far without a valid birth certificate. This whole birth certificate thing is really stupid.

Really,.. the conspiracy theories are just making more and more people look very immature, cynical and Paranoid schizophrenic.

Whatever.

For $12.00 Obama can make it all go away.

SO WHY WON'T HE DO IT?

This is the biggest joke of a politician to ever run for office.

And all you Obamobots are an even bigger joke, imho.

We conclude that it meets all of the requirements from the State Department for proving U.S. citizenship. . . . Our conclusion: Obama was born in the U.S.A. just as he has always said."?

Thanks for continuing to entertain.

Obama's transition team has concluded that Obama's transition team had nothing to do with the Blago scandal. lmao.

I didnt vote for Obama.

I just saw through the poor strategy taken to choose a good looking lady to be Vice President and voted against it.

choose a good looking lady to be Vice President and voted against it.

You must mean the one that was more qualified than the 'President-Elect'.

Good grief. We are about to have a community organizer that pissed away tens of millions of dollars running a corrupt private entity run the country. Hooray!

I didnt vote for Obama.

I just saw through the poor strategy taken to choose a good looking lady to be Vice President and voted against it.

So, you voted against putting a good looking woman in the office of Vice-President. That's sound logic. :rolleyes:

I voted against a woman that knows not of what she is doing and we are seeing more and more of that come out since the election;)

Thanks for continuing to entertain.

Obama's transition team has concluded that Obama's transition team had nothing to do with the Blago scandal. lmao.

You're welcome, the conspriracy seeking is entertaining to me in turn.

So factcheck.org should be sued, no?

I voted against a woman that knows not of what she is doing and we are seeing more and more of that come out since the election;)


Please post examples and references. Thanks.

It won't matter what Palin wants - It is going to be the party that decides - and the 'powers that be' don't really like her. Will they offer her up as a sacrificial lamb in 2012 - if we are lucky they will ;)

Please post examples and references. Thanks.


Meet the Truth-Challenged GOP Vice Presidential Candidate: Sure A. Pallin'

by Dave Lindorff

Now that we’ve had a chance to see Sarah Palin and to hear her speak—or at least read the big rolling white block letters on the teleprompter in front of her—we can see that she’s prone to telling whoppers.

Now we know politicians as a group have a propensity to embellish the truth—particularly when describing their opponents or themselves—and even to lie outright, but Palin does it so well, she’s like a George Bush with reading and pronunciation skills.

In her acceptance speech last night, Palin told a whole string of lies. My favorite was talking about little Trig, her latest offspring, who was born with Down syndrome. Looking right out into the camera, she told the parents of America with special needs children that if she and John McCain win in November, “You’ll have an advocate in Washington.”





Hard to square that with the truth, though, which is that as governor, Palin as proposed a reduction in funds for special needs grants to schools in both her budgets—this at a time that the state of Alaska has been benefiting from record oil tax revenues, which Palin is pushing to return to citizens as cash rebates.


If this is true it is despicable! Flat out disgraceful and small!


Left unsaid by Palin was the fact that McCain himself, in Congress, has voted against funding for the Head Start program, an early childhood program particularly important to children of teen mothers, and that he has opposed bills to increase funding for special education. So in fact, parents of children with special needs like Trig not only won’t have an advocate in the vice president’s office; they won’t have an advocate in the White House either.

Palin has also tried to turn a family tragedy—her 17-year old daughter Bristol’s getting pregnant by a local self-described 18-year-old “redneck” athlete from the same high school—into a virtue by saying that she and her husband will be helping their daughter “keep the child” and raise it. To keep things cool in the eyes of god, she also announced that the two teen parents would be getting married. Both kids were prominently on display at the Republican National Convention during her speech.

What Palin didn’t tell convention-goers or the national viewing audience was that as governor she cut the funds for a program in the state to support single teen mothers and that as a PTA member, mayor and finally as governor of Alaska, she has opposed sex education in the schools—something that her daughter and future son-in-law clearly could have used. Less advantaged single mothers in Alaska and, should she be elected, in the rest of America, will not have a friend in Blair House. She also failed to mention that McCain has voted against funding of teen pregnancy prevention programs in Congress.

So did she know her daughter was pregnant while this was being planned? I dont think so and exactly how many months pregnant would her daughter had been by this time? What a moron, that was a historical kick in her ass if you ask me.

Palin continued, in her acceptance speech, to spout another lie which she had already been making in her first days on the stump since being picked by McCain as his choice for running mate: that she had said “No thank you” to the $439-million “Bridge to Nowhere” which, as perhaps the biggest single earmark in a year of record earmarks last year had become a national joke line. The truth: Palin backed that bridge, and was even ready to add state funding to get it built, until it became a national joke. Then she thought better, and killed the bridge, while still taking the money, which the state’s senior senator, Ted Stevens (now under indictment for taking bribes from contractors), had earmarked.


:slam


Palin went on to lie about her opponent, Barack Obama’s, tax plan, saying it would raise taxes on businesses and on all Americans. In fact, Obama’s plan calls for lowering the corporate profits tax, while increasing the tax on dividends and capital gains, both of which fall not on businesses but on investors, and for lowering taxes on most Americans, while raising them for people earning over $250,000.

John McCain likes to ride around in a bus he dubs the “Straight-Talk Express.”

Sarah Palin, in her debut on the national stage since being named as McCain’s Number Two, has lied enough times to deserve the sobriquet “Sure A. Pallin’.


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Aside from that you know down right McCain only chose her hoping to win votes by her looks. Just the type of dirty old man I wanna vote for!

Now say the old guy kicked the bucket, I sure wouldn't want the fall of the US on my conscious cause Pallin would then be President and everyone says every vote counts.

Sure McCain has war time experience but from the wrong era to put that experience to use today and yes we do need some people running things with experience in that filed today but something more modern and I agree that don't help Obama either.


If no one voted for Hilary ( besides the fact she was a b*tch ) who would want Pallin-a women that at a time when the people are pinching pennies for gas spends hundreds of thousands of dollars on one time wardrobes?

I dont find the Turkey thing to be that funny, it is kind of but what I find funny is that she actually goes out and hunts.

Sarah Palin's 2009 calendar is the #1 Amazon office supply item this Christmas.

....even outsold the Obummer calendar.

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Meet the Truth-Challenged GOP Vice Presidential Candidate: Sure A. Pallin'

by Dave Lindorff

That's not an example, that a poorly written "opinion" piece written by a devote and professional leftist.

even if he does come through with a birth certificate do we want a hawaiian in office. Luau's all the time, blowing his conch shells, and the 1st lady hula dancing.....pig roasts will not be the same again

Are you kidding me? Those are opinions!? So she never canceled out those benefits for pregnant teens and her daughter was never pregnant and so forth and so on.

Ok right, you know maybe some of this birth certificate garbage would actually be halfway believable if the idiots would conspire a more believable story. Maybe one that sounded more like he supplied a fake one rather than just none at all;)

Are you kidding me? Those are opinions!? So she never canceled out those benefits for pregnant teens and her daughter was never pregnant and so forth and so on.
You said she was a woman who didn't know what she was doing, and you posted a garbage piece that simply took issue with politics and presumed increased government spending was the solution for everything.

It presumes that if you support something, you must also support increased government spending on the issue. This is absolutely untrue.

The article you posted was rubbish.
And if didn't advance or support the throw away comments you've made.

Ok right, you know maybe some of this birth certificate garbage would actually be halfway believable if the idiots would conspire a more believable story. Maybe one that sounded more like he supplied a fake one rather than just none at all;)
The birth certificate stuff is just strange, but personally, I think that it's a just something out there to continue to distract and consume the time, energy, and money of people who would otherwise be working against him.

But I don't think you are following the story here.. No one thinks he "doesn't have a birth certificate." Wouldn't that mean there's no record of his birth? That he's a blood drinking lizard person? No, the popular "belief" is that he was born in a foreign country, and that subsequent things released have been forgeries or issued based on false information submitted to a state that has much leniency and little scrutiny.

It is not opinion and you are smarter than that. It is facts!

So its his opinion that her daughter is pregnant and his opinion that Pallin was going to cut those funds?


Something don't sound right here. I wonder what that is?

Now what is a opinion is that you consider it rubbish and poor.



I have my reasons and that's that but not the topic so back to it.

But I don't think you are following the story here.. No one thinks he "doesn't have a birth certificate." Wouldn't that mean there's no record of his birth? That he's a blood drinking lizard person? No, the popular "belief" is that he was born in a foreign country, and that subsequent things released have been forgeries or issued based on false information submitted to a state that has much leniency and little scrutiny.

I am following it.

Now if he does have one regardless you say he wont show it cause he is scared that it is a forgery.


Bull! Being a average US citizen I know what a birth certificate means and when it is important.

I dont understand how this guy got as far as he did without providing a birth certificate! How can it be done? Fake or not how can it be done without catching on? Oh I see its the left wings that are in such control and are hiding the truth right?

Getting to his position takes a lot more than scanning a bunk copy of a birth certificate on a computer and printing it out with his name on it!


Its garbage, its radical, elitist, idealistic right wing extremist cynical garbage!


Someone wasn't happy with the results and just needs to cry about it hoping they can somehow get ones way. I'm not saying that person is you or anyone here since it was not a idea spawned here on this forum but I know that even you know somewhere deep inside if even deep inside this is highly a bunch of crap!

Im not a Democratic bleed between the legs with his tail stuck between when the sh*t hits the fan either so don't give me that crap. I hate seeing republicans act petty and give the logical ones bad names when this is supposed to be fair.

But I don't think you are following the story here.. No one thinks he "doesn't have a birth certificate." Wouldn't that mean there's no record of his birth? That he's a blood drinking lizard person? No, the popular "belief" is that he was born in a foreign country, and that subsequent things released have been forgeries or issued based on false information submitted to a state that has much leniency and little scrutiny.
I am still going with blood drinking lizard person...
http://www.stargods.org/V_Diana.jpg

It is not opinion and you are smarter than that. It is facts!

So its his opinion that her daughter is pregnant and his opinion that Pallin was going to cut those funds?
It is opinion that cutting funding to a state program indicates some kind of hypocrisy or inconstancy. You and the author presented it as being a lie. It is not.

Now if he does have one regardless you say he wont show it cause he is scred that it is a forgery.
Actually, I'm not saying anything on the subject, I was simply restating the prevailing opinions. I'm not invested in this particular issue and think it's a time sink.


Its garbage, its radical, elitist, idealistic right wing extremist cynical garbage!
It's elitist to oppose the candidacy of a man raised by a bank manager, who attended Columbia and Harvard University, and was a law lecturer at the University of Chicago?

There's nothing elitist about this at all. It appears to be a very grass roots level effort AGAINST the perceived elite power structure.

Almost like a kick right in the egg sack of those lizard people.


Someone wasn't happy with the results and just needs to cry about it hoping they can somehow get ones way.
The probably with this statement is that the concerns and claims were made long before he won the election. So it's not triggered by the outcome of the election, but the issue certainly appears more urgent after he won.


Im not a Democratic bleed between the legs with his tail stuck between when the sh*t hits the fan either so don't give me that crap. I hate seeing republicans act petty and give the logical ones bad names when this is supposed to be fair.
THIS IS NOT A REPUBLICAN ISSUE.
Do not represent it as such. There are a group of people who are pursuing this issue and, from what I've seen and read, they appear to reflect the full range of the political spectrum, both Democrats and Republicans. Phillip Berg, who was the most prominent of the people making the various "birth certificate" arguments, is a Democrat.

..I hadn't thought of that.
Ickes didn't think he was the messiah until the early 90s, and the lizard people stuff came after that.

V and They Live had already been out for 5 years at that point. His crazy isn't even original crazy.

This is all just SO silly. After all, HE'S THE MESSIAH! Nothing else matters!
KS

I think I have found it!

Lol^

Wow - and I thought I had found the original birth certificate - drat 04SCTLS - yours looks more original than mine... The seal doesn't look quite right on mine - and I couldn't find a picture of the back side... ;)

http://www.thenoseonyourface.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/07/obamabirth2.JPG

hey, calabrio. is that a picture of oj in his new cell in your sig? nice digs they gave him. or maybe i just didn't hear the sentence, and that's his last meal finally.

hey, calabrio. is that a picture of oj in his new cell in your sig? nice digs they gave him. or maybe i just didn't hear the sentence, and that's his last meal finally.

Here's OJ, spreading holiday cheer, and you've got to go whiz in the punchbowl.
Bah-humbug.

with his track record of late, i could do without his cheer.

with his track record of late, i could do without his cheer.

Well then. You, sir, are clearly a racist.
Good day.

Well then. You, sir, are clearly a racist.
Good day.

because he's a murderer and criminal, i'm a racist? wtf?

so, calling me racist here was pretty stupid?

so, calling me racist here was pretty stupid?

Yes, you have clearly demonstrated that you are worse than Hitler.
Not as bad....WORSE!!
:rolleyes:

You're really quite dense, aren't you?
Calling you racist wasn't "stupid" it was silly, as it was in the other thread.

If yall are going to bitch about the certificate at least get the arugment right lol

The problem isn't that he might of been born somewhere else (he was born here, just accept it) it's the dual citizenship that comes from Kenya.

If yall are going to bitch about the certificate at least get the arugment right lol

The problem isn't that he might of been born somewhere else (he was born here, just accept it) it's the dual citizenship that comes from Kenya.

That is one of the issues, but there are other factors that you clearly have not taken the time, and are not interested in knowing as they have been covered countless times in this forum. We are not going to rehash it just because you are too lazy to do your own research. Your comments recently are a shining example arrogant, presumptuous ignorance. :rolleyes:

because he's a murderer and criminal, i'm a racist? wtf?
Congratulations...

http://img227.imageshack.us/img227/7965/assclownmbe1tx7.jpg

Ok, let's end this madness. Mr. President; if you are a citizen of this country, show us your birth certificate and all of us will believe you.
To those who say he has dual citizenship, show us the proof. At least show us his birth certificate so we can establish that he is a citizen of at least one country.
And lastly Mr President; how about sending some of that bail-out money my way. Oops; I forgot. I'm a middle class American citizen who has made a lifelong effort to be financially responsible. Now that I have lost my job, through no fault of my own and I can't support those who are not financially resposible, and the illegal immigrants, and I can't contribute to the fund that rewards the people who got our country into this mess, I'm going to be punished. I've been out of work for a year Mr. President. I've used up all my savings. No one wants to hire me 'cause I'm old. In six months I'll be old enough to collect social security and put a reverse mortgage on my house if I still have it. Can you help me Mr. President? Just a little; please?

Congratulations...

congaradulations to you to fossten

Yes, you have clearly demonstrated that you are worse than Hitler.
Not as bad....WORSE!!
:rolleyes:

You're really quite dense, aren't you?
Calling you racist wasn't "stupid" it was silly, as it was in the other thread.

so, you admit you were stupid here. good. it's done.

so, you admit you were stupid here. good. it's done.

http://files.samhart.net/humor/dumbass.png

I Laugh every time I see that picture, Black. I'm still not sure what's funnier, the situation the kid is in, or the absolutely idiotic look on the kid's face...

I Laugh every time I see that picture, Black. I'm still not sure what's funnier, the situation the kid is in, or the absolutely idiotic look on the kid's face...

HAHA yea me too!!! :lol:

so, you admit you were stupid here. good. it's done.

No, I said the statement was deliberately stupid and explained why.
You are stupid for having to have me explain it to you.

So, to sum up hrmwrm's activity in this thread:

1. Called Cal a racist.
2. Copycatted everyone else.

That's par for the course.

Who's spewing hate again?

Kill whitey!

Kill whitey!

I have to ask, Are you white, I see you always saying "Cracker Please" and other funny stuff.

So, to sum up hrmwrm's activity in this thread:

1. Called Cal a racist.
2. Copycatted everyone else.

That's par for the course.

Who's spewing hate again?

ahh, no. cal called me a racist. i see your good at perception. a$$hole.

I have to ask, Are you white, I see you always saying "Cracker Please" and other funny stuff.

Yes, I'm white. But it's OK, I have a lot of white friends, so I can say that. :D

I Laugh every time I see that picture, Black. I'm still not sure what's funnier, the situation the kid is in, or the absolutely idiotic look on the kid's face...

Both :D

Yes, I'm white. But it's OK, I have a lot of white friends, so I can say that. :D

racist! :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:

I know, I'm such a racist against craka's, it's not even funny.

:D

Noun 1. racist - a person caught disagreeing with a liberal.

Whatever.

For $12.00 Obama can make it all go away.

SO WHY WON'T HE DO IT?

This is the biggest joke of a politician to ever run for office.

And all you Obamobots are an even bigger joke, imho.

RIGHT ON !!!! EMPTY SUIT,,PUPPET.. HE HAS THAT "PIMP" STUT just like Rev Manning sez MACK DADDY

Well then. You, sir, are clearly a racist.
Good day.

I had HYNOSIS for WEIGHT LOSS,,REALLY WORKED. 252lbs down to 195 in 6 months,,I hope ZEROBAMA's ACT don't make me back slide.

If yall are going to bitch about the certificate at least get the arugment right lol

The problem isn't that he might of been born somewhere else (he was born here, just accept it) it's the dual citizenship that comes from Kenya.

THERE WAS NO "DUAL" citizenship in 1961. Also a pregnant woman at her age wasn't allowed to fly at that time. He thinks this will GO AWAY,,IT WON'T.

I had HYNOSIS for WEIGHT LOSS,,REALLY WORKED. 252lbs down to 195 in 6 months,,I hope ZEROBAMA's ACT don't make me back slide.

Really. Which program did you use?

I'm not a racist! My best friend is Puerto Rican, and that's close enough. ;)