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JohnnyBz00LS December 20th, 2008, 10:13 AM Need some fresh topic in here, the Obama COLB thread has been stale after 400 posts.......
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2008/12/19/levi-johnstons-mother-arrested-drug-charges/
Mother of Palin Daughter Boyfriend Arrested on Drug Charges
The mother of Levi Johnston, the Wasilla teenager who is the father of Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin's daughter's unborn child, was arrested Thursday on drug charges.
The Anchorage Daily News reported Friday that Sherry L. Johnston, 42, was arrested by Alaska State Troopers at her Wasilla home and charged with six felony counts of misconduct involving a controlled substance.
The arrest was the result of an "undercover narcotics investigation," according to police.
Few details were available. Johnston was released on $5,000 bond, according to the paper.
Johnston's son, Levi, drew headlines soon after John McCain named Palin to be his running mate at the end of August. The campaign announced in a press release that Palin's 17-year-old daughter Bristol was pregnant, and that Johnston, 18, was the father. The story became the soap-opera subplot to the Republican National Convention the next week.
Levi Johnston and Bristol Palin have said they intend to marry in the summer. Their baby is due Saturday, according to the Anchorage Daily News.
fossten December 20th, 2008, 11:35 AM Boring.
JWerner2 December 20th, 2008, 11:58 AM Would it be so boring if it were the floppy ear coke head?
foxpaws December 20th, 2008, 01:39 PM Jwerner - nope, the right would be dancing all over this if the guilty party was Biden's son's in-laws... or any connection to Obama
I sometimes get the feeling that I am watching Bad Boys or Trailer Park Boys whenever news concerning Sarah Palin or her family is aired. The turkey pardon thing was so funny that even the boys at SNL said that there was no way they could top that with a parody.
I need to see if Vegas has odds on the 'wedding' - I really don't think that Levi will ever walk down the aisle with Bristol.
04SCTLS December 20th, 2008, 02:35 PM Troopers charged Johnston with second-degree misconduct involving a controlled substance -- generally manufacturing or delivering drugs -- as well as fourth-degree misconduct involving controlled substances, or possession.
Wassila is the meth capital of Alaska.
These are the people Republicans wanted to let into the White House.
A barely educated woman with a pregnant teenage daughter whose boyfriend's mother is an (alleged) drug dealer.
The turkey pardon thing was so funny that even the boys at SNL said that there was no way they could top that with a parody.
I couldn't stop laughing watching the turkey pardon.
I mean like hey get a clue
Calabrio December 20th, 2008, 02:52 PM Jwerner - nope, the right would be dancing all over this if the guilty party was Biden's son's in-laws... or any connection to Obama
That's absolute bullcrap.
First of all, this story isn't about Palin's son-in-law.
It's about her daughters, fiance's, mother. That's an association that has NOTHING TO DO WITH PALIN. The purpose of a story like this is simply to smear or embarrass Sarah Palin. And Johnny drive-by troller's title is clearly meant to mislead. It'd be more accurate to have titled it "Mother of high school athlete in Wasilla, Alaska arrested on drug charges"
And even when there are stories of Democrat kids gone wild, none of us harp on it or are found "dancing all over it." It's also interesting how you used the term "guilty party" in this circumstance, when a good liberal like yourself knows full well she's only been charged with the crime.
I sometimes get the feeling that I am watching Bad Boys or Trailer Park Boys whenever news concerning Sarah Palin or her family is aired.
Speak of elitism....
04SCTLS December 20th, 2008, 03:00 PM It's about her daughters, fiance's, mother. That's an association that has NOTHING TO DO WITH PALIN
Nice
Using her own criteria critisizing Ayers, it's accurate to say that Palin pals around with drug dealers.
foxpaws December 20th, 2008, 03:03 PM Cal - Biden's SON's in-laws.
Same degree of separation - if the kids actually go through with the wedding...
Oh, you are right - innocent until convicted - I'll remember that as you continue to try and hang everyone on the left...;)
And heck - even Ozzie and the Gotti's have reality shows... It is a level of celebrity -sort of 'b' list...
And if you haven't seen Trailer Park Boys you should - it isn't a reality show - it is a Canadian parody of US reality shows - it is soooo funny.
But, you do have to admit, the turkey thing was one of the funniest things this year...
http://z.about.com/d/politicalhumor/1/0/M/T/2/kill-me-lk1114bd.jpg
Calabrio December 20th, 2008, 03:31 PM Cal - Biden's SON's in-laws.
But, this story isn't even about her daughter's fiance, it's about his mother. The story is in no way a reflection of Sarah Palin. It's nothing than an attempt to smear her. And if Biden were associated with a petty junky through marriage it wouldn't reflect on him in anyway either.
But you failed to acknowledge my point-
no one on the right would be dancing all over the story if a Democrat of rising prominence in the party had a similar affiliation with an accused dirtbag. Infact, even when prominent Democrats have had problems with their childrens, rarely is it mentioned, let alone gloated over.
No, that kind of poison seems to be practiced most intensely in Democrat circles. Unless you'd like to imply that the media and Democrats treated the Bush twins the same as they did Chelsea?
Oh, you are right - innocent until convicted - I'll remember that as you continue to try and hang everyone on the left...;)
It's fine if you want to imply that she's guilty, I'm just pointing out your selective hypocrisy.
And I'd wager that this woman probably isn't a right leaning Republican voter... just a hunch though.
But, you do have to admit, the turkey thing was one of the funniest things this year...
No, I think the story about John Edwards locking himself in the lobby bathroom of a hotel after visiting his bastard baby and mistress was funnier.
Calabrio December 20th, 2008, 03:38 PM 3]Using her own criteria critisizing Ayers, it's accurate to say that Palin pals around with drug dealers.
No, that wouldn't be accurate at all. Not even a little.
JWerner2 December 20th, 2008, 03:49 PM If Palin is so close to her daughter and her daughter so close to her fiance, then how is it so hard to acknowledge that Palin must have known what was going on? Or is Palin really not the all American mom she was made out to be?
I doubt Palin made the arrest or even placed the tip off;)
She knew.
Im pretty sure the "smearing" from the Republicans would come off way worst if it was Obama who's daughter was pregnant and her fiances mother was the one busted!
There would be about 5-6 not so boring threads by now, that Im sure.
foxpaws December 20th, 2008, 03:51 PM But, this story isn't even about her daughter's fiance, it's about his mother. The story is in no way a reflection of Sarah Palin. It's nothing than an attempt to smear her. And if Biden were associated with a petty junky through marriage it wouldn't reflect on him in anyway either.
Just as if Joe Biden's SON's mother-in-law (in-law). And so 2 degrees of separation is enough to distance you from inappropriate behavior - good to see there is a defining line here...;)
But you failed to acknowledge my point-
no one on the right would be dancing all over the story if a Democrat of rising prominence in the party had a similar affiliation with an accused dirtbag. Infact, even when prominent Democrats have had problems with their childrens, rarely is it mentioned, let alone gloated over.
Tell that to the Kennedy children.
No, that kind of poison seems to be practiced most intensely in Democrat circles. Unless you'd like to imply that the media and Democrats treated the Bush twins the same as they did Chelsea?
Nope - did Chelsea have the same underage drinking problems as the Bush twins? I don't remember reading anything along those lines. Chelsea's boyfriend choices do get 'smeared' all the time though...
No, I think the story about John Edwards locking himself in the lobby bathroom of a hotel after visiting his bastard baby and mistress was funnier.
Well that was hilarious - but not caught on tape - the turkey tape is soooo funny.
04SCTLS December 20th, 2008, 04:08 PM I sometimes get the feeling that I am watching Bad Boys or Trailer Park Boys whenever news concerning Sarah Palin or her family is aired. The turkey pardon thing was so funny that even the boys at SNL said that there was no way they could top that with a parody.
+1
Clueless Gov. Sarah Palin conducts an interview in the foreground of an ongoing turkey slaughter after her pardon of the only lucky turkey. Caution: Don’t let the kids watch. Hundreds of turkeys wait certain death in a pen behind Gov. Palin and the killing continues even as the slaughter house worker watches the live interview from the background but on camera. In the interview Sarah Palin talks lovingly about animals big and small and a turkey Thanksgiving dinner with family. It’s more than a bit bizarre even for the frozen north – bring back “Northern Exposure
Gov. Palin pardons turkey at turkey slaughter - Video Spider.tv (http://www.videospider.tv/Videos/Detail/647080909.aspx)
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Using her own criteria critisizing Ayers, it's accurate to say that Palin pals around with drug dealers.
No, that wouldn't be accurate at all. Not even a little.
I'm always surprised how otherwise intelligent conservatives believe in Sarah and cut her so much slack.
04SCTLS December 20th, 2008, 04:15 PM it is
Calabrio December 20th, 2008, 04:19 PM Just as if Joe Biden's SON's mother-in-law (in-law). And so 2 degrees of separation is enough to distance you from inappropriate behavior - good to see there is a defining line here...;)
You must be referring to some story I'm simply not familiar with.
And in doing so, apparently demonstrating my point.
Tell that to the Kennedy children.
I'd prefer to NEVER hear from or about the Kennedy children for the rest of my life. Any attention they get results from the liberal worship of them as though they were a royal family. And because of their own self-importance and sense of entitlement, they continually thrust themselves into national politics.
Most recent story- Caroline Kennedy's efforts to be APPOINTED to the U.S. Senate from New York.
Nope - did Chelsea have the same underage drinking problems as the Bush twins? I don't remember reading anything along those lines.
First of all, you wouldn't know, because the media made a decision to "give her space" out of a sense of decency and courtesy that didn't extend to the Bush family.
And furthermore, you're implication that anyone had a "drinking problem" is absurd. I think it's reasonable to assume that all of those daughters had very similar experiences with alcohol while in college, it's just that the Bush twins happened to do it in a very different atmosphere.
Chelsea's boyfriend choices do get 'smeared' all the time though...
She's an adult now. And frankly, I've never seen them smeared, nor would I care to even hear about it. I don't think anyone does, except for sycophantic Clinton worshipers who are hoping for a Chelsea Clinton legacy in public office.
Well that was hilarious - but not caught on tape - the turkey tape is soooo funny.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z-kjM1asH-8
Is it really that funny?
What's funny about it.
In case you didn't know, all those frozen bird shaped things we buy at the grocery store.... they used to have heads and move around.
Just because you or other "more sophisticated" people find that reality unsettling and alarming, she clearly doesn't.
And if there's a mistake in judgment here, why is it presumed to be hers? Why aren't you laughing at the camera man who CLEARLY framed that shot to include slaughter in the shot.
Calabrio December 20th, 2008, 04:22 PM I'm always surprised how otherwise intelligent conservatives believe in Sarah and cut her so much slack.
Cut her slack for what?
For her daughter's boyfriend's mother's actions?
I'm always surprised at the blind, wild, senseless hatred and hostility directed at a woman who has done absolutely wrong and seems like a wonderful woman. Perhaps you disagree with her politics, but the intense personal hatred is intense, though- given the blind hate on the left, not surprising.
04SCTLS December 20th, 2008, 04:42 PM Is it really that funny?
What's funny about it
What's funny is the Cluelessness she displays in doing the turkey pardon thing at a place where turkeys are being slaughtered.
Did she even think about how this may look as a pr event
which she was doing to promote her profile.
Sure turkeys are slaughtered all the time for our consumption but we don't want to see the killing.
The juxtaposition of her chirping perkily about pardoning the turkey while others are being slaughtered by a smiling guy in the near background is funny on it's own as a Monty Python skit(This Parrot is Dead!) even without her in it.
But seeing it with her, someone with pretensions and ambitions to be POTUS makes it even more delicious and ridiculous.
I mean Really
Why does the funniness of this even have to be
explained here.
To me it speaks for itself.
04SCTLS December 20th, 2008, 04:52 PM Cut her slack for what?
For her daughter's boyfriend's mother's actions?
No
Cutting her slack as a serious candidate for high office.
IMO She's a charismatic somewhat intelligent barely educated not well read woman who until the election was ignorant of and uninterested in the rest of the US or the world outside of Alaska.
Faith in her is (to me) Belief Beyond Reason undoubtedly due to her religiousity and that of her supporters.
If she was not a gun supporting charismatic conservative of faith you guys would be tearing her apart as a pinhead.
hrmwrm December 20th, 2008, 05:00 PM Cut her slack for what?
For her daughter's boyfriend's mother's actions?
I'm always surprised at the blind, wild, senseless hatred and hostility directed at a woman who has done absolutely wrong and seems like a wonderful woman.
i agree. and i don't see it as a lot of hatred, merely the pointing out of her unprofessionalism that you would have expected from a vice presidential candidate.
JohnnyBz00LS December 20th, 2008, 05:08 PM And Johnny drive-by troller's title is clearly meant to mislead. It'd be more accurate to have titled it "Mother of high school athlete in Wasilla, Alaska arrested on drug charges"
:bsflag: Mislead? No moreso than Palin misleading the entire American population about Obama's "association" w/ Ayers. Certainly, by now Palin has had more face time w/ her daughter's future in-laws than Obama ever had w/ Ayers. Funny thing about the "guilt by association game", it'll come back to bite you. Now Palin is finding that out. Too bad you are so narrowminded to see that.
And how did Wasilla become Alaska's "meth capitol"?? What's that say about the city and it's leadership over the years?
As someone has said, "we have felt the breeze of the bullet whizzing by our heads".
fossten December 20th, 2008, 05:17 PM Tee hee: Palin’s sort of “palling around” with drug dealers now, notes Olby
posted at 4:03 pm on December 20, 2008 by Allahpundit
An important lesson on guilt by association from a man who surely never would have objected if John McCain had once worked with, say, an unrepentant abortion clinic bomber. I can’t decide which part is my favorite: Is it Kayo comparing The One’s knowing, voluntarily association with a terrorist to Palin being saddled months ago with an in-law who was busted just this week? Or is it him using Palin’s own supposed lack of empathy to declare open season on this story, replete with nasty drug jokes from an actual comedian about what Bristol Palin’s baby should be named? It gets tiresome pointing out Olbypocrisy, but try to imagine his reaction if one of Joe Biden’s in-laws was arrested for possession and O’Reilly spent a segment overtly goofing on it.
Oh, and this being “Countdown,” there’s at least one key detail that’s hugely misleading. Turns out Sherry Johnston apparently wasn’t busted for meth but for oxycontin. Olby could have waited to find that out instead of speculating, but why bother when meth jokes are so much more fun? That’s the Murrow way, after all.
*owned*
foxpaws December 20th, 2008, 06:41 PM You must be referring to some story I'm simply not familiar with.
And in doing so, apparently demonstrating my point.
Demonstrating your point? What point?
I'd prefer to NEVER hear from or about the Kennedy children for the rest of my life. Any attention they get results from the liberal worship of them as though they were a royal family. And because of their own self-importance and sense of entitlement, they continually thrust themselves into national politics.
And they are constantly on the news for every bad thing they do as well. I don't particularly like hearing about them either - but it is de rigor for high profile people in politics. Sarah Palin would like to be a high profile politician - she and her family will need to expect this - it is what happens, right and left.
First of all, you wouldn't know, because the media made a decision to "give her space" out of a sense of decency and courtesy that didn't extend to the Bush family.
No, you didn't know because if Chelsea drank when she was under-aged she didn't get caught - I actually don't think she drank. The Bush girls were naive enough to get caught, and arrested.
I think it's reasonable to assume that all of those daughters had very similar experiences with alcohol while in college, it's just that the Bush twins happened to do it in a very different atmosphere.
Why would you 'assume' that? Are you assuming all underage girls in college drink? Or just by personal contact do you assume that is true. I would say probably 1/2 do - but I could be wrong.
Is it really that funny?
What's funny about it.
In case you didn't know, all those frozen bird shaped things we buy at the grocery store.... they used to have heads and move around.
Oh, Cal, I know all about farm animals - my grandparents have a farm in Minnesota - I used to help my grandma kill chickens and geese - plus, one of the rather odd things she would do is let a chicken run around without its head for the grandchildren's amusement, and fed the chickens baby sparrows.
We weren't a politically correct family.
I have seen hogs slaughtered, calves castrated (come on Foss - here is an opening tailor made just for you...) and de-horned. Kittens drowned. Farm life is different. I can field dress birds - I don't like to dress big game however (I have helped a few times), so I don't hunt larger game.
Just because you or other "more sophisticated" people find that reality unsettling and alarming, she clearly doesn't.
I thought I would be placed in the 'more sophisticated' category. I am hurt;) I don't find it unsettling or alarming at all - it is funny. As the benevolent Queen of the North pardons the innocent bird, his fellow cell mates are getting beheaded in the background - it is more like Monty Python *you are right with that one - 04SCTLS* than journalism.
Why aren't you laughing at the camera man who CLEARLY framed that shot to include slaughter in the shot.
Actually, I thought that since she has a broadcasting background that she would be quite cognizant of the things in the shot. I think the cameramen were pulling a fast one on her. I am laughing WITH the cameramen.:)
It is still soooo funny.
Calabrio December 20th, 2008, 09:35 PM :bsflag: Mislead? No moreso than Palin misleading the entire American population about Obama's "association" w/ Ayers. Certainly, by now Palin has had more face time w/ her daughter's future in-laws than Obama ever had w/ Ayers. Funny thing about the "guilt by association game", it'll come back to bite you. Now Palin is finding that out. Too bad you are so narrowminded to see that.
Obama's association with Ayers doesn't even resemble the association you're making. If Obama's daughter were simply screwing some spawn of Ayers, then you'd have a point. But that's not the situation. Ayers was not simply someone who lived on the same street, or in the same town as Obama. And Palin really has no say or influence in the behavior of her daughter's boyfriend (fiance's) mother.
You're either a liar or a fool to continue to try to make this point..
04SCTLS December 20th, 2008, 09:58 PM . Turns out Sherry Johnston apparently wasn’t busted for meth but for oxycontin. Olby could have waited to find that out instead of speculating, but why bother when meth jokes are so much more fun?
hillbilly heroin
Slang for the prescription painkiller Oxycontin, which happens to be very popular with rural white males.
'That hillbilly heroin's got me floatin'
presciption narcotic pharmaceutical that is cooked into liquid and used intravenously. ie., oxy-contin, dilaudid, morphine sulfate.
http://opioids.com/oxycodone/rushlimbaugh.html
The loquacious Limbaugh, his housekeeper says, was often high on "hillbilly heroin."
The brand, which is lauded by pain-control advocates, has proven to be the scourge of law enforcement east of the Continental Divide. The U.S. Drug Enforcement Administration reports 454 deaths in 32 states were likely due to OxyContin abuse in 2000 and 2001. The agency determined that nearly 11,000 emergency room visits were due to OxyContin abuse in 2001, a number that has tripled since 1996. The states of Pennsylvania, Kentucky, West Virginia and Virginia all report that at least 50 percent of new drug treatment patients land in rehab due to OxyContin.
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So the drug being OxyContin takes all the "fun" out of this.
The term Hillbilly Heroin elicits snickers and fits the stereotype here just as well as the more nastily horrifying Meth.
fossten December 20th, 2008, 09:59 PM You're either a liar or a fool No, he's both. Everybody knows that. When he's not out throwing urine on Christians, he's either lying or being foolish.
Machspeed December 22nd, 2008, 12:22 PM So Johnny, we have guilt by association here, eh??? If this flies for you, then logic dictates that you should have a real issue with the Prez elect. Jeez, you libs are a hoot.
MonsterMark December 22nd, 2008, 12:28 PM I hear Obama is on vacation in Hawaii. We should see a new Birth Certificate in the next couple of days.
TheDude December 25th, 2008, 03:49 PM Is it really that funny?
What's funny about it.
I agree, I heard/read people saying how funny this was, how foolish Palin looked etc. etc. etc. In the end, it's Palin doing an interview to the backdrop of a turkey farm and turkeys are being killed. Okay. If anything, the news crew and the interviewer should have been more professional; that's even in question though.
TheDude December 25th, 2008, 03:52 PM I hear Obama is on vacation in Hawaii. We should see a new Birth Certificate in the next couple of days.
I know you think he's a terrorist, muslim, liar, elitest, thief and overall scum-of-the-earth; that's fine, can we at least agree that he isn't a moron?
On the grounds of not being a moron and complete imbecile, don't you think he would have just procured a birth certificate if he indeed didn't have one/needed one BEFORE his bid for the presidency started to roll?
04SCTLS December 25th, 2008, 08:38 PM Arrest details on mom of Bristol Palin's boyfriend
Thursday, December 25, 2008
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2008/12/25/national/a124800S10.DTL&tsp=1
(12-25) 16:15 PST WASILLA, Alaska (AP) --
The mother of Bristol Palin's boyfriend sent text messages to two police informants discussing drug transactions before her arrest on felony drug charges, authorities say.
An affidavit filed Monday says Sherry L. Johnston sent text messages referring to "coffee" as a code for the drug OxyContin.
The 42-year-old Johnston was arrested last week after state troopers served a search warrant at her Wasilla home. She is out on bail.
Johnston is the mother of 18-year-old Levi Johnston. Gov. Sarah Palin announced in September that her 18-year-old daughter Bristol was pregnant and Johnston was the father.
Authorities say the case began in the second week of September — a couple of weeks into Palin's campaign as Republican vice presidential candidate — when drug investigators intercepted a package containing 179 Oxycontin pills. That led to the arrest of the suspects, who agreed to be informants.
According to the affidavit, Johnston sent a text message to one informant Oct. 1, writing: "Hey, my phones are tapped and reporters and god knows who else is always following me and the family so no privacy. I will let u no when I can go for cof."
Ten days after Johnston said there wasn't enough privacy for a drug sale, she texted again to set up a meeting at a store, according to the affidavit. The document says the informant received $800 to make a purchase, meeting investigators later with 10 pills of 80-milligram Oxycontin.
A second purchase was made the following day, authorities said. This time the informant wore a hidden camera and a microphone.
A third purchase occurred Nov. 26. The informant was wired for the transaction and this time police videotaped the meeting.
fossten December 26th, 2008, 12:35 AM Arrest details on mom of Bristol Palin's boyfriend
Dark Helmet: I am your father's brother's nephew's cousin's former roommate.
Lone Starr: What's that make us?
Dark Helmet: Absolutely nothing!
04SCTLS December 26th, 2008, 09:29 AM Calendar offers chance to spend 2009 with Sarah Palin (http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/12/26/calendar-offers-chance-to-spend-2009-with-sarah-palin/)
Posted: 08:32 AM ET
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Former Wasilla deputy mayor Judy Patrick's 2009 wall calendar (http://www.sarahcalendar.com/) featuring photos of Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin and her family is the second-most popular calendar on amazon.com. (Photo credit: Judy Patrick Photography)
04SCTLS December 26th, 2008, 09:44 AM By Ruben Navarrette Jr.
Special to CNN
Ruben Navarrette Jr. is a nationally syndicated columnist and a member of the editorial board of the San Diego Union-Tribune.
http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2008/POLITICS/12/24/navarrette.palin.smalltown/art.navarrette.jpg Ruben Navarrette says Sarah Palin's critics challenged her because of prejudices about small-town values.
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SAN DIEGO, California (CNN) -- During the presidential election, some Democrats demanded to know how I could defend Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin.
Simply put, Palin is my people. She's small-town folk who wound up in the big leagues.
Because I grew up in a small town with a population of less than 15,000 people, I was disgusted by the insults and condescension coming from those who think of themselves as the enlightened elite. Meanwhile, in small towns, I detected great affection for Palin. People talked about how she was "a real person" who "reflected their values."
The most significant divide in America isn't Red State vs. Blue State, it's rural vs. urban. The country mouse and the city mouse are still slugging it out.
In 1982, New York Mayor Ed Koch ran unsuccessfully for governor of New York. Some say the deciding factor was when Koch described life in upstate New York as "sterile" and said he dreaded living in the "small town" of Albany, if elected. That didn't play well in rural areas.
Now comes Colin Powell (http://topics.cnn.com/topics/Colin_Powell). During a recent appearance on CNN's "Fareed Zakaria GPS," Powell attempted an autopsy on the Republican Party's failed presidential bid. He went after Palin (http://topics.cnn.com/topics/Sarah_Palin), accusing her of pushing the party so far to the right that it went over a cliff.
"I think [Palin] had something of a polarizing effect when she talked about how small-town values are good," Powell said. "Well, most of us don't live in small towns. And I was raised in the South Bronx, and there's nothing wrong with my value system from the South Bronx."
You'd think the presidential campaign was about conservatives picking on urbanites. It wasn't. Sure, some Republicans probably made a mistake by using phrases such as "real America" or "real Americans" as a rallying cry for the base. Americans who live in cities might have thought they were being slighted.
But those phrases referred as much to people's politics and values as it did their zip code. I live in a city with a population of more than a million people and I never thought the GOP singled me out as not being a "real American."
If anything, it appeared that big-city liberals were tapping into prejudices about small-town America to belittle the governor of Alaska
After Powell attacked Palin, one of the governor's most vocal defenders, conservative talk show host Rush Limbaugh (http://topics.cnn.com/topics/Rush_Limbaugh), returned the favor by attacking Powell.
"What is this hatred for conservatives and small-town people and Sarah Palin?" Limbaugh asked on his radio show. "I know a lot of people that are from the Bronx, Gen. Powell, and if you think the values there in the Bronx today reflect the ones you grew up with, take a trip back and see if the street corners and the activities there are the same as when you were growing up."
Limbaugh got it. When people use phrases such as "small-town values," it's as much about time as it is place. The idea isn't that people who live in small towns have better values than people who live in cities. It's simply an attempt to recall, with nostalgia, what life was like when more Americans lived in small towns.
It used to be that more families ate dinner together and high school students worked summers and after school. It used to be that our schools didn't make excuses for why some kids don't learn because they were too busy trying to teach them.
It used to be that parents weren't interested in being their kids' best friends, only good parents. And it used to be that people pulled their own weight and would never dare ask for a handout.
During a recent interview with the conservative newspaper, Human Events, Palin was asked if she thought her humble background accounted for some of the flak she got from the media. Palin acknowledged that she didn't come from elite stock, but said that she was grateful for that.
"I got my education from the University of Idaho because that's what I could afford," she said. "No, I don't come from the self-proclaimed 'movers and shakers' group and that's fine with me. It's caused me, or rather, allowed me, to work harder and pull myself up by my bootstraps without anyone else helping me. I think it allows me to be in touch with the vast majority of Americans who are in the same position that I am."
Sarah Palin understands a lot about America. Too bad many Americans don't understand Sarah Palin. No worries. They may get another chance to acquaint themselves with her -- in say, four years.
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Conservative America still believes Sarah Palin is the right person to run for Congress as well as the presidency. No matter what is printed in the news - she hit a core nerve with America's psyche of neurosis, fear, xenophobia, faith, guns, violence and the John Wayne mentality of freedom.
She's a diamond in the rough for conservative supporters.
Just needs to study up and become more well read to fill that head of hers as Coulter opined.She needs more "gravitas" to impress the average non partizan voter.
In America anything is possible but IMO 2016 is more likely than 2012 to be her moment.
ford nut December 26th, 2008, 11:30 AM I agree, I heard/read people saying how funny this was, how foolish Palin looked etc. etc. etc. In the end, it's Palin doing an interview to the backdrop of a turkey farm and turkeys are being killed. Okay. If anything, the news crew and the interviewer should have been more professional; that's even in question though.
She does not have a clue thats the point.
The news crew was doing what they get paid for, if they can catch her being foolish they will.
Palin should have known what is going around her, and how it would look.
She didnt.
Conservative America still believes Sarah Palin is the right person to run for Congress as well as the presidency. No matter what is printed in the news - she hit a core nerve with America's psyche of neurosis, fear, xenophobia, faith, guns, violence and the John Wayne mentality of freedom.
She's a diamond in the rough for conservative supporters.
Just needs to study up and become more well read to fill that head of hers as Coulter opined.She needs more "gravitas" to impress the average non partizan voter.
In America anything is possible but IMO 2016 is more likely than 2012 to be her moment.
She will fade away.
In 2016 nobody will know her name.
TheDude December 26th, 2008, 01:02 PM She does not have a clue thats the point.
The news crew was doing what they get paid for, if they can catch her being foolish they will.
Palin should have known what is going around her, and how it would look.
She didnt.
Possible, or she was being professional and focusing on the interview. Growing up around hunting and being a hunter herself, I'd imagine the slaughter and prepping of animals isn't something that puts her off for a second; she could have very well just dismissed it as the nothing it was.
She has made many a stumble to get a laugh over; I don't think this is one though.
She will fade away.
In 2016 nobody will know her name.
Most likely.
foxpaws December 27th, 2008, 01:09 PM Former Wasilla deputy mayor Judy Patrick's 2009 wall calendar (http://www.sarahcalendar.com/) featuring photos of Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin and her family is the second-most popular calendar on amazon.com. (Photo credit: Judy Patrick Photography)
It's only the second most popular because Foss bought 1,283 copies... ;)
cammerfe December 27th, 2008, 01:51 PM Foxy---
Snarky is beneath you!
KS
04SCTLS December 27th, 2008, 02:45 PM It's only the second most popular because Foss bought 1,283 copies... ;)
Whatever your politics MILFY is hot! :I
And the shotgun just adds to the allure...;)
She can handle my gun:D anytime:p
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