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Hood

Cubster
January 30th, 2005, 03:05 PM
Geno, where can I get a hood like the 1 on your car, I have a Mark VIII, I mistakenly posted this question in the VII forum......oops

1wykdmk8
January 30th, 2005, 03:15 PM
Geno, where can I get a hood like the 1 on your car, I have a Mark VIII, I mistakenly posted this question in the VII forum......oops


His hood is completely custom....it is a stock Mark hood with a Camaro style scoop grafted onto it, then smoothed out underneath....completely custom. Not available anywhere.....unless you have it custom built.

There is/was a person making hoods for the Gen 1's, not sure if he still is, but his name is Larry, and his company name is FastGlas and his number is 1-800-346-2426 just leave a message. :Beer

Cubster
January 31st, 2005, 07:46 AM
Thanks Ray, as always you come through with an answer. :Beer

1wykdmk8
January 31st, 2005, 12:34 PM
Thanks Ray, as always you come through with an answer. :Beer

:Beer :invasion:

1wykdmk8
January 31st, 2005, 12:36 PM
Ok, I just called, and his NEW company name is Custom Creations. He is still there, but you have to leave a message since he does not have the overhead to have a secretary to answer the phone. He is usually in the back workin, so just leave a detailed message and he will get back to you. :Beer

Jibit
January 31st, 2005, 12:54 PM
anyone ever find someone to make them for the Gen 2's?

1wykdmk8
January 31st, 2005, 01:48 PM
anyone ever find someone to make them for the Gen 2's?

Not that I know of, but the problem with the Gen 2's vice the Gen 1's is that the Gen 2's hood is aluminum whereas the Gen 1's is fiberglas. The fiberglas lends itself better for custom touches. IF you can find someone that will custom build you one, I might have a person that can make the mold for you and you can be the one to sell custom Gen 2 hoods..... :Beer

driller
January 31st, 2005, 02:27 PM
Psssssst... Ray! It's not fiberglass.

1wykdmk8
January 31st, 2005, 03:16 PM
Psssssst... Ray! It's not fiberglass.

What is not fiberglas?

StraDog
January 31st, 2005, 03:41 PM
What is not fiberglas?

I believe he is saying the stock Gen 1 hoods are not fiberglass.

Here is a shot of mine.

Cubster
January 31st, 2005, 03:41 PM
Ok, I just called, and his NEW company name is Custom Creations. He is still there, but you have to leave a message since he does not have the overhead to have a secretary to answer the phone. He is usually in the back workin, so just leave a detailed message and he will get back to you. :Beer


I called him & got his answering machine, he hasn't called me back yet. I did go see a friend of mine who does body work & mentioned it to him, he'll install it prime & paint it for 650.00, I'm online now looking for a "cowl clip" ( hood scoop ) I think I've got 1 at Americansportscar.com for 125.00, so it looks like I'm looking @ 775.00 for the hood. Oh btw I'm having the new suspension installed tomorrow!!! I'll let you know how it comes out.

Cubby

Joeychgo
January 31st, 2005, 03:44 PM
Ok, I just called, and his NEW company name is Custom Creations.



Try to get a website for this guy please

1wykdmk8
January 31st, 2005, 03:48 PM
Try to get a website for this guy please

He does not have one.

He was at Carlisle last year, maybe he will be there this year too....maybe we can talk to him then.... :Beer

1wykdmk8
January 31st, 2005, 03:58 PM
I believe he is saying the stock Gen 1 hoods are not fiberglass.

Here is a shot of mine.

Hmmmmm....the factory one on my green car was fiberglas....or some sort of composite material, because when I cut it up it splintered like fiberglas. And, the wrecked Mark VIII that I had the factory hood was fiberglas....again or some sort of composite, because it too splintered like fiberglas. :Beer

pro-five-oh
January 31st, 2005, 04:00 PM
Its plastic.

1wykdmk8
January 31st, 2005, 04:04 PM
Its plastic.

I have never seen plastic splinter like fiberglas does....but like I said....it was some composite (or something of the like) because of the splintering. :Beer

driller
January 31st, 2005, 05:27 PM
The '93 brochure says:

"The hood is of a formed synthetic resin material that's utterly impervious to rust and corrosion. And also staunchly resistant to life's dings and dents."

1wykdmk8
January 31st, 2005, 05:37 PM
The '93 brochure says:

"The hood is of a formed synthetic resin material that's utterly impervious to rust and corrosion. And also staunchly resistant to life's dings and dents."

That is just some eggheads definition of fiberglas so that they could add about $1000 or more to the price of the car.....LOL! :Beer

BlackIceLSC
January 31st, 2005, 08:00 PM
JP...Ray is right... I'll snap a photo of the hood on our old 95...it looks like it het with a very dull chainsaw...fibers everywhere(kid hit a pole). it is DEFINATELY "composite glass"...aka fiberglass. Ever remove one?

Ray...thanks for the input here...I am going to start saving....after seeing THIS:
http://www.lincolnvscadillac.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=3815&stc=1


I MUST have one.......and will not rest until I do!

HOWEVER... I have been toying with the idea of a Mach1 intake and shaker assembly. But, I cannot find anyone to photoshop a shaker onto my stock gen 1 hood.....any volunteers? The idea sounds awesome to me, but like all ideas, until you actually see it, it always sounds good.

driller
January 31st, 2005, 09:37 PM
Hey! I'm just a dumb :q driller - but there are composite resin materials that are NOT fiberglass. This is NOT a 'glass body panel corvette. No, it's NOT one of those plastic clad 'rubber maid' vehicle panels either(Avalanche and others). Good grief. :Bang

pro-five-oh
February 1st, 2005, 10:10 AM
Ummm...plastic is a composite resin if you wanna get technical. There are about a bazillion different types of plastic, and some of them behave like fiberglass when broken.

So is adobe brick, carbon fiber and fiberglass, but neither of which are used on a Mark VIII.

I'll look in my 1993 Mark VIII sales book (that hardbound book) to see what it says.

BlackIceLSC
February 1st, 2005, 01:12 PM
no man...its Lincoln... they used the good :q:q:q:q....if word got out that they used fiberglass, rich bastards wouldbt buy it!

heh heh

anyway... a dumb driller you aint....a car nut, you is, yo!

driller
February 1st, 2005, 03:27 PM
Chalk it up to a bad day at the office. :Beer

True, plastics are a composite resin, Pro. If you find the exact composition, it would be interesting. Whatever it is, Lincoln apparently found out too late that certain problems existed with the composite resin and the adhesives utilized along with surface preparation techniques which later surfaced(literally) on the paint quality afterwards.

I think what the engineers were trying to accomplish was a lighter weight and a tougher 'skin' to cover the expanse of the hood.

1wykdmk8
February 1st, 2005, 03:35 PM
Ok, does it really matter what the hell the hood is made out of. I know for a fact that what ever it is made out of acts like fiberglas. I have molded a scoop onto it in the past, and it cuts, and acts like fiberglas. I do not really care what the technical term is.

Like I said in one my posts that it is either fiberglas, or some sort of composite. The reason I said it was fiberglas is that it works like fiberglas, and someone had told me that is basically what it is. Who really cares, it is a composite material that is just like fiberglas.

Geezz......what, are we all freakin composite scientists or something. Christ! :Beer :Bang

ONEBADMK8
February 1st, 2005, 05:41 PM
I have bought many wrecks and the top "skin" IS FIBERGLASS and the undershell is composite, like the Fiero plastic body panel type of material.

94m5
February 1st, 2005, 05:50 PM
I have bought many wrecks and the top "skin" IS FIBERGLASS and the undershell is composite, like the Fiero plastic body panel type of material.



I was about to post this exact thing Geno...thanks. I'm working on grafting a scoop to mine right now.

driller
February 1st, 2005, 11:07 PM
Geezz......what, are we all freakin composite scientists or something. Christ! :Beer :Bang

Bad day at the office Ray? :waving:

1wykdmk8
February 1st, 2005, 11:11 PM
Bad day at the office Ray? :waving:

I just can not believe ppl are arguing on the structural makeup of the damn hood....come on now. I knew for a fact that at least part of it is fiberglas because I have worked on one, but what is it with the scientist(s) that need to prove their points.

No, it just gets a bit ridiculous JP....that is all....and i was not referring to you.... :Beer

DOHCtor_Mark
February 2nd, 2005, 06:16 AM
StraDog, did you use a Cobra R hood? I'm looking to have the same thing done on my car and I HAVE to have it by April. I measured the center section of the cobra R hood at the leading edge, the cowl and the length and it's more than enough for the Mark hood. I'm just wondering if I can get away using a Cobra Hood from a mustang or if I need to order the outer skin from on of the companies.

1wykdmk8
February 2nd, 2005, 06:21 AM
StraDog, did you use a Cobra R hood? I'm looking to have the same thing done on my car and I HAVE to have it by April. I measured the center section of the cobra R hood at the leading edge, the cowl and the length and it's more than enough for the Mark hood. I'm just wondering if I can get away using a Cobra Hood from a mustang or if I need to order the outer skin from on of the companies.


He got his hood from the same guy that I got the one for my old car from.....Larry at Legendary/FastGlas/Custom Creations. I am not sure if he is still in business or not. Several ppl have called him and he has not responded.

If you can not get in touch with him, what you will have to do is purchase a Cobra 'R' hood for a mustang and cut off the scoop. Then you will have to graft it onto the hood, and cut out the underside of the hood, and smoof it all out.

That is basically what I am gonna do since I want something a lil more custom than the Cobra 'R' hood. :Beer

driller
February 2nd, 2005, 08:56 AM
I want one made from matching blue carbon fiber! With a nice scoop to clear the Kenne Bell blower setup underneath. Then line the inside with mylar faced kevlar to keep the pistons from shooting through the hood with 7 grand on the tach. How's THAT!? :L

Joeychgo
February 2nd, 2005, 08:59 AM
I have bought many wrecks and the top "skin" IS FIBERGLASS and the undershell is composite, like the Fiero plastic body panel type of material.

I saw my hood when it got smashed. Geno is right. Its fiberglas skin with a composite base of some sort.

1wykdmk8
February 2nd, 2005, 09:03 AM
I want one made from matching blue carbon fiber! With a nice scoop to clear the Kenne Bell blower setup underneath. Then line the inside with mylar faced kevlar to keep the pistons from shooting through the hood with 7 grand on the tach. How's THAT!? :L


:D :D :Beer

Mulato
February 9th, 2005, 12:59 AM
Well I have your picture done with the Mach 1 intake but I don't know how to send it to you. I'm new at this. But the picture looks pretty


HOWEVER... I have been toying with the idea of a Mach1 intake and shaker assembly. But, I cannot find anyone to photoshop a shaker onto my stock gen 1 hood.....any volunteers? The idea sounds awesome to me, but like all ideas, until you actually see it, it always sounds good.[/QUOTE]

DOHCtor_Mark
February 9th, 2005, 06:41 AM
My Cobra R hood should be on my porch when I get home from work today! This has got to be the best 50 bucks I've ever spent.
How long does it take to cut and graft? I told my friend to get to the point where it's in primer. But the hoods are a dime a dozen here! And the cool part is, since we only want the center portion, we can buy damaged hoods that mustangers would turn their noses up to!!!
I thought about simply cutting the hood and letting a Kenne Bell poke through. Those are some nice looking blowers. I'd have sort of a 2005 Mad Max thing going. But then, so much for driving in the rain. It's for looks anyway, since I'm going with nitrous.

ONEBADMK8
February 9th, 2005, 09:58 AM
There iss NO way in hell that ANY kind of shaker would work, there is NO room at all.

cobra8
February 19th, 2005, 04:41 PM
Look on Ebay for the scoop, I have seen them for $75.00. I would also shop around for a bodyshop. I talked to mine (does great work) and he said around $450 to mold and paint

ONEBADMK8
February 19th, 2005, 04:45 PM
This is where I got the 4 inch 1969 Z/28 cowl for the TerminVIIIor.


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