We are down to the nitty-gritty.

I am counting on the PUMA's (Hillary's "Party Unity My Ass") supporters to come thru for McCain/Palin.

Hillary received 18,000,000 votes. The media is acting like everyone of them is in the bag for Obaaama.

We need 5% to defect to give McCain the win.
I bet we'll get closer to 10 percent but Obama will get alot of those new illegal votes so that will offset the PUMAs some.

So I see a 288-250 McCain Victory.

If more PUMAs toss aside Obama, this could become a route.

This entire election contest has been like running at night with a blindfold on. The media, the one business that is given formal constitutional protection, has so flagrantly abused their trust, I simply can not find enough consistent information to make a confident determination.

Any one of the stories about Obama should have been enough to undermine his candidacy. Any one of his policy positions should have been enough to end his candidacy. Do people not know? Do people really just not understand anymore? Or are is the support for Obama radically misrepresented and inflated?

Monster and Cal,

Not that I really agree with the polls and Obama will landslide this, but what will you say come 11/5/08 is McCain barely exceeds 200?

Monster and Cal,

Not that I really agree with the polls and Obama will landslide this, but what will you say come 11/5/08 is McCain barely exceeds 200?

Oh nuts.
Then I'll try to find the positive while preparing for the negative.

I know I won't find comfort saying "I told you so" for the next two to four years.

I tried to buy an HK91 today. I couldn't get the manufacturer on the phone, nor could I reach the main distributor. I spoke to a retailer here in town and he barely had time to talk to me due to the heavy traffic in his store. Finally I got ahold of a guy on gunbroker.com (it's "ebay" for gun buyers), who had seven models left. He said he had already received three phone calls today from nervous buyers wanting to beat the election. He predicted that all of the HK91s in the country would be sold out inside of a week if Obama wins.

This is called "unintended consequences." Threaten our gun rights, and we'll just buy more. I'll bet the gun industry posts record sales in 1Q 2009.

Needless to say, I got my order in.

Good, all this gun/ammo purchasing can only help the economy. Should have purchased an American-made semi-rifle, though.

Gee, thanks for telling me what I should have done. You know what they say about free advice - it's worth every penny.

By the way, PTR 91 Inc., the company that makes the HK91 clone, is based in Farmington, Connecticut.

Some day I hope to grow up and be as smart as you.

:rolleyes:

Because I should have just known that yours is a knockoff. HK's were imported and there is a market for them.

First grow up, one step at a time, no need to rush and spoil things.

Actually, it's not a knockoff. There are two types of HK91s - preban and postban. Mine is made from the exact blueprints, and improvements have been made to the design.

Not that you'd know this, but knockoffs are made with aluminum receivers. Mine has a steel receiver.

You FAIL at gun knowledge.

While I'll freely admit my gun knowledge is very limited, your vocabulary fails.

Main Entry: knock·off
Pronunciation: \ˈnäk-ˌȯf\
Function: noun
Date: 1966
: a copy that sells for less than the original ; broadly : a copy or imitation of someone or something popular

Yours is a copy, aka "knockoff"; they don't have to be inferior either.

While I'll freely admit my gun knowledge is very limited, your vocabulary fails.

Main Entry: knock·off
Pronunciation: \ˈnäk-ˌȯf\
Function: noun
Date: 1966
: a copy that sells for less than the original ; broadly : a copy or imitation of someone or something popular

Yours is a copy, aka "knockoff"; they don't have to be inferior either.But your implication was that it was inferior; why else would you have mentioned it?

You said "I should have known..." What was the purpose of that statement other than to be a dick?

But your implication was that it was inferior; why else would you have mentioned it?

You said "I should have known..." What was the purpose of that statement other than to be a dick?

No, I wasn't insulting your gun; it seems you have some sort of inferiority complex about it, so if it makes you feel better, I'll just say "Fossten, you have the best and biggest gun."

I took a light hearted jab at you for not buying American (or so I thought) in conjunction to my "all these guns sales [because of Obama] will help the economy" implication-comment.

BTW, it is a nice gun, I read up on it; I'm a bit jealous.

Are you guys done crapping on my thread yet?

Yeah, I just wiped.

Good luck with your candidate. (no sarcasm)

Are you guys done crapping on my thread yet?Put your mouth closer to the mike when you speak, Bryan. :D

http://san1.atlanta.gbhinc.com/GB/115081000/115081265/pix731845640.jpg

hey foos whats the price tag on that weapon. and link please

Just go to gunbroker.com and type in PTR 91.

Monster and Cal,

Not that I really agree with the polls and Obama will landslide this, but what will you say come 11/5/08 is McCain barely exceeds 200?

Well 'F' me, McCain may not clear 175 (if that). Seems all those polls that had Obama sweeping were indeed correct.

Just go to gunbroker.com and type in PTR 91.

brand?? these look awesome and i assume that its a one shot stop

brand?? these look awesome and i assume that its a one shot stopIt's an HK91 clone called the PTR-91F. PTR, Inc. makes them. You can order them from Atlantic Firearms, and I got a call today from Atlantic that they are in stock.

And yes, the caliber is .308, which will drop you in one shot, even if you're behind a tree.

sweet i just now realized your from louisville. i play poker at the horseshoe quite often. thanks for the info

sweet i just now realized your from louisville. i play poker at the horseshoe quite often. thanks for the info
Very cool, dude. I was there Sunday night. I go about twice a week. Which tables do you play?

Well 'F' me, McCain may not clear 175 (if that). Seems all those polls that had Obama sweeping were indeed correct.

How do you figure this?
Even according to CNN, it's 207/129 at this very moment.
While an Obama win is evident, it's not a blow out in the Reagan/Mondale sense.



The country gets the government it deserves....

How do you figure this?
Even according to CNN, it's 207/129 at this very moment.
While an Obama win is evident, it's not a blow out in the Reagan/Mondale sense.



The country gets the government it deserves....


While I'm probably wrong and McCain could very well clear 175, MT, MO, IN and NC are very close.

Yeah, the Republican party will always have that.

Considering you have a very negative view of Obama's policies and the government he'll bring us, why do you think "we" deserve something negative? Or did you mean something else?

Considering you have a very negative view of Obama's policies and the government he'll bring us, why do you think "we" deserve something negative?

Because "we" voted for him.
And worse yet, the expanded majorities in the Congress.

The increased power of Pelosi, Reid, Frank, and Schumer, as well as the State governments is very alarming and scary. As a student of history, there is NO WAY this will work out well for anyone who is freedom loving and believes in the simple principles that this country was founded on.

But "we" voted for it in 2008, so "we" deserve it.

A Democratic Republic like ours is a huge responsibility. Voting isn't the responsibility- any idiot can do that. We have a responsibility to research, understand, discuss, debate, and apply that wisdom when voting. Voting is the payoff for our work, it's the culmination of everything. Unfortunately some, for nefarious reasons, have misrepresented that and they have made voting the focus without emphasizing the incredible responsibility that comes with it.

So I see a 288-250 McCain Victory.



:bowrofl:

GAZA (Reuters) - Hamas militants in the Gaza Strip fired more than 35 rockets toward Israel Wednesday, the army and the Islamist group said, hours after the Israeli army killed six militants in the coastal territory.That didn't take long. So much for the Messiah's influence. Or is this an example of it?

Probably Hamas celebrating the coming of 'The Messiah'
KS

That didn't take long. So much for the Messiah's influence. Or is this an example of it?

You do realize that Bush is still in office, right?

You do realize that Bush is still in office, right?

...you just don't get it.
Russia started acting up TODAY as well.
These things aren't coincidence. He's perceived to be weak and he will be tested. All administrations are tested, but when they are perceived as weak, they are tested more aggressively.

This specific attack may well be unrelated, but don't be surprised if things in the Middle East intensify really quickly over the next month.

You do realize that Bush is still in office, right?


As well as the fact the polls weren't even closed.

I wonder, could Obama be blamed for the years and years of violence that lead up to that?

All administrations are tested, but when they are perceived as weak, they are tested more aggressively.



You mean like Bush and 9/11 ???:)

You mean like Bush and 9/11 ???:)Yeah cuz AQ didn't start plotting 9/11 until...um...BEFORE Bush was elected.

Dope. :rolleyes:

You mean like Bush and 9/11 ???:)
Stupid example. 9/11 had nothing to do with Bush.

A good example would be how the Chinese tested Bush immediately after he came into office. I doubt you remember the story about the spy plane that had to make an emergency landing in China right after Bush took office.

Had Bush been perceived as a weaker President, the tests would have been more bold.

Yeah cuz AQ didn't start plotting 9/11 until...um...BEFORE Bush was elected.

Dope. :rolleyes:


Certainly no more dopey than thinking missiles in Israel have anything to do with Obama being elected (while Bush is in office)....Dope...:D

Certainly no more dopey than thinking missiles in Israel have anything to do with Obama being elected (while Bush is in office)....Dope...:D

Actually, it's a bit more dopey.
It's not as though there a lot of planning has to go into one of those rocket attacks. The missile attack was probably done regardless who had won that night, but everyone did have a pretty good hunch.

Actually, it's a bit more dopey.
It's not as though there a lot of planning has to go into one of those rocket attacks. The missile attack was probably done regardless who had won that night, but everyone did have a pretty good hunch.



Riiiight.......:D

And they had good hunches the last four years they have been doing it.

I'm sure it was in retaliation for Israeli forces killing Palestinian militants earlier that day.

GAZA, Nov 5 (Reuters) - Hamas fired dozens of rockets at Israel on Wednesday after Israeli forces killed six Palestinian militants in an eruption of violence that disrupted a four-month-old truce along the Gaza Strip's frontier.

The rocket attacks, which included salvoes that landed in the coastal Israeli city of Ashkelon, caused no casualties. Israeli forces later killed a seventh Palestinian gunman who the military said had taken part in cross-border rocket fire.


Lots of people seemingly had a hunch that McCain was gunna win here in the US. I wonder how they knew more than us.....

I can't help but notice that Monstermark has'nt been on since the election..............?

I can't help but notice that Monstermark has'nt been on since the election..............?

http://www.suicidehotlines.com/wisconsin.html

:rolleyes:

Riiiight.......:DYou want to settle this? Fine. Here's my prediction: Because of Floppy Eared Cokehead's victory, Israel will bomb Iran before Jan 20th.

If I'm wrong, I will admit it in this thread. If I'm right, then my previous analysis stands.