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AbrahamLincoln
September 25th, 2008, 06:46 PM
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unity
September 25th, 2008, 06:49 PM
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ford nut
September 25th, 2008, 06:59 PM
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AbrahamLincoln
September 25th, 2008, 07:05 PM
N-gin

jhargarage
September 25th, 2008, 07:09 PM
I think I understand

please help me.................................

unity
September 25th, 2008, 07:09 PM
haha....


Well looks like ya gots some NOS. Hows it working?

ford nut
September 25th, 2008, 07:14 PM
nos or a n-gin grenade.

BAD97LSC
September 25th, 2008, 07:47 PM
a messy engine bay lol.

AbrahamLincoln
September 25th, 2008, 07:48 PM
works well, considering ive went through 5 bottles so far so good @ 150 shot, now I got some more jets im gonna try and tone it down a bit for the take of the trans/TC... I broke my fogger nozzle when putting in the new trans. I got a new tomahawk style nozzle and it fits very nicely. I did it today and I figured Ide wipe the engine bay down a bit right quick and snap a few pictures.

AbrahamLincoln
September 25th, 2008, 07:49 PM
a messy engine bay lol.

any suggestions?

ford nut
September 25th, 2008, 08:48 PM
Fun huh ?....I bet it is.
You need to take it to the track and put up some times.
You have put alot of work into it I have to admit.
I am sure you will surprise a few rice grinders.

tda13
September 25th, 2008, 09:23 PM
I'm spraying 100. Thats the most I have sprayed. They say the difference from 100 - 150 is incredible.

Once you drive a car with Nitrous, you REALLY understand why the call it "laughing gas". It will put a smile on your face.

AbrahamLincoln
September 25th, 2008, 09:32 PM
Do pullys make a difference? I wanna find some stuff thats going to give me some more NA driving HP. I through back in 764 @ .048 plugs and i got back a little bit more hp I think. MSD ignition? C and L MAF? what stuff is worth doing?

AbrahamLincoln
September 25th, 2008, 09:36 PM
I'm spraying 100. Thats the most I have sprayed. They say the difference from 100 - 150 is incredible.

Once you drive a car with Nitrous, you REALLY understand why the call it "laughing gas". It will put a smile on your face.

its like v8 vtec the way it just instantly changes everything about the motor and power. yea its awesome but 150 doesnt last long in a 10 lb bottle.

Are you running dry or wet?

im going 150 even with the lms chip on there... no problems - plugs look great. He says its cool to run with a 100 shot, ive ran it many times with the 150 no issue. Very happy with the tune. I'm no expert but i'de be willing to say its mild yet very safe tune. 50 lbs of nitrous later im still good!

AbrahamLincoln
September 25th, 2008, 09:39 PM
when i get some money im gonna dyno it to see what kinda power im laying down. NA chip vs no chip... then do some tuning with the nitrous vs different plugs different jets - then chip vs no chip. I want to get some solid info.

I'm always careful with the plugs though. I wouldn't spray with the 764's with there gap. i got no problem swapping out plugs depending on what im doing.
i'm probably going to run the 100 shot with the 764's with his chip on there. I think there someone on the boards on here who runs that and he's sub 13's.

tda13
September 25th, 2008, 09:47 PM
its like v8 vtec the way it just instantly changes everything about the motor and power. yea its awesome but 150 doesnt last long in a 10 lb bottle.

Are you running dry or wet?

im going 150 even with the lms chip on there... no problems - plugs look great. He says its cool to run with a 100 shot, ive ran it many times with the 150 no issue. Very happy with the tune. I'm no expert but i'de be willing to say its mild yet very safe tune. 50 lbs of nitrous later im still good!

I'm running a wet kit. It's an EFI Ford Race system by Nitrous Express. They were great to work with. I'm running a throttle switch with an arming switch in the car... also running a purge. I run a step colder plug, but to be honest I don't even remember what plug I put in mine.

Also running a LMS MAF. My car is a gen2. I had the MAF on the gen1 first and could really notice a difference. Not as much on the gen2. Other than a shift kit and straight pipes, I havnt really done alot.

AbrahamLincoln
September 25th, 2008, 11:31 PM
I have a similar setup. The throttle switch is under the pedal for me and I use the arm switch at wot after 3-3500 k. What do you gap your plugs at? Do you spray through shifts? The lms maf is just the maf right or does it include a cone filter? What shift kit did you go with?

94m5
September 25th, 2008, 11:38 PM
The only problem With Nitrous is that the Bottle runs out. Twin screws though.........

AbrahamLincoln
September 26th, 2008, 12:58 AM
Twin screws all day

jhargarage
September 26th, 2008, 04:37 AM
what does it cost for a bottle refill...................

tda13
September 26th, 2008, 07:07 AM
what does it cost for a bottle refill...................

I pay $40.00 to have mine refilled and thats cheap.

I work for a gas company, but we do not sell nitrous plus. There are so many goverment regulations on nitrous and alot of liabilities. The only difference between medical nitrous (I do sell med nitrous) and nitrous plus is nitrous plus has sulfer dioxide added to it. The only reason it's in there is so people wont huff it. The sulfer dioxide will make you sick.

tda13
September 26th, 2008, 07:11 AM
I have a similar setup. The throttle switch is under the pedal for me and I use the arm switch at wot after 3-3500 k. What do you gap your plugs at? Do you spray through shifts? The lms maf is just the maf right or does it include a cone filter? What shift kit did you go with?

It includes the cone filter.

You can spray through shifts if your tranny can handle it. I would'nt do it with mine if I was spraying 150... I dont think she could take it.

Don't remember where I gapped my plugs (it's been some time ago).

I'll have to pull the box on the shift kit. Can't remember that either...

ford nut
September 26th, 2008, 12:39 PM
The only problem With Nitrous is that the Bottle runs out. Twin screws though.........

Ditto plus safer.

AbrahamLincoln
September 26th, 2008, 01:47 PM
i pay 50 for a 10 lb refill. Yea i don't spray through shifts either... I don't even have a shift kit - but an 01 tranny has pretty good shifts from the factory. yea superchargers are great but there very expensive to purchase and its on ALL the time which can be a good and bad thing but it is what it is. Nitrous is there when you need it -hp by a switch, its relatively inexpensive to purchase the kit and cheap to install if you have some ingenuity.

Nitrous gets a bad rap because of those who go out there, don't set it up right, and blow there stuff up. Theres some huge myths out there about nitrous... which is why I was a bit hesitant on doing it. But I was assured that its a good way to go, and its worked out well for me.

I would definetly go with a wet kit so you KNOW your're getting the fuel you need.

Needless to say ive had turbocharged and supercharged cars (from the factory) and n20 definetly has that coolness factor. However I would love to have both!

ford nut
September 26th, 2008, 02:49 PM
Nitrous works, but it gets a bad rap for a reason.
I don't think its so much how its set up....but if there is a weak link somewere NOS is going to find it in a hurry.
For cheap power on demand its hard to beat.

kustomizingkid
September 26th, 2008, 03:37 PM
Nitrous is good for running the 1/4 mile, thats it.

XLRVIII
September 26th, 2008, 04:06 PM
Nitrous is good for running the 1/4 mile, thats it.


they used it in airplanes back in WW2 for an additional 500 HP for a 30 minute burst...

FordNut is right about Nitrous "finding the weak link" and exploiting it in usually very dramatic fashion though.

you dont really think airplane engineers would install something that could "hurt" the motor in a single engine aircraft.. right?

Nitrous is absolutely safe when ALL the conditions are met...but a clogged fuel filter could end your day in a heartbeat, even WITH a wet kit.

There is no "idiot proof" nitrous kit, but the ZEX kit comes close.
(not endorsing ZEX)

Good ole Abe hasn't "survived" his nitrous experience..YET.
He's still playing with fire, and will likely get burned before it's all over and done.

he's smoked a trans, but I predict there'll be a "what is this I found in my oil pan" threads coming in the future.

Or a "where did my spark plugs go" thread
(not wishing Abe any bad luck here, by any means)

XLRVIII
September 26th, 2008, 04:08 PM
just for conversations sake..

That 500 shot the airplanes ran was actually a small percentage of the actual NA HP that engine made.. so it wasn't really a "big shot" per say.

Kinda like a 50-75 shot on a mark 8 motor for comparisons sake.

ford nut
September 26th, 2008, 04:22 PM
LOL Tommy,
You seem to put into words what I was thinking.
I dont wish any problems on Abe or anyone eles running it.
But I have been around the track enough to see what it can do to a oil pan.
It can be a good tool for a savy racer who likes to play.
I have seen it used to sandbag before it works.

RedCellSix
September 26th, 2008, 05:32 PM
I have a question for everyone. How safe is that stuff now a days? Specifically if you are in an auto accident. Quite a few years ago I was a cop in Baltimore, Md. I was the second unit responding to a car accident. The first was a traffic unit. In the few minutes it took to arrive on the scene, the car was an inferno. A second vehicle had rear ended the first at a red light. The traffic officer later told me that the first car had nitrous in the trunk. The two young men obviously died instantly. But further adding to the tragedy was that the second vehicle driver died not from injuries, but burns. Not to long after that Md. outlawed it. Here in NY. I don't have any idea whether it is legal or not. It kind of reminds of police officers all over the U.S. dying in fires from rear end collisions in Crown Vics until Ford finally manned up and corrected the problem. Gary in Elmira, NY.

bryantaylor
September 26th, 2008, 06:26 PM
real nice thread title douche

AbrahamLincoln
September 26th, 2008, 07:40 PM
Good ole Abe hasn't "survived" his nitrous experience..YET.
He's still playing with fire, and will likely get burned before it's all over and done.

he's smoked a trans, but I predict there'll be a "what is this I found in my oil pan" threads coming in the future.

Or a "where did my spark plugs go" thread
(not wishing Abe any bad luck here, by any means)


hmm im surviving just fine! Trans could have been for a bunch of reasons, i neveer replaced the broken 1-2 accum i had or did the updated pistons. besides the pre 98 trans are junk... nitrous or no nitrous.

and if i blow my motor up... big deal its part of the risk i bought my car for 400 bucks!

spark plugs are fine, ive changed them out 4 or 5 times already, never managed to mess up threads or shoot one through the hood like some people ;)

AbrahamLincoln
September 26th, 2008, 07:42 PM
real nice thread title douche

moderate yourself

AbrahamLincoln
September 26th, 2008, 07:44 PM
Nitrous is good for running the 1/4 mile, thats it.

that and getting highhh as a mofuggaaaa, purging on bystanders to watch them give you the wtf face!, or for a short burst of hp when you wanna lay the smack down.

AbrahamLincoln
September 26th, 2008, 07:51 PM
I have a question for everyone. How safe is that stuff now a days? Specifically if you are in an auto accident. Quite a few years ago I was a cop in Baltimore, Md. I was the second unit responding to a car accident. The first was a traffic unit. In the few minutes it took to arrive on the scene, the car was an inferno. A second vehicle had rear ended the first at a red light. The traffic officer later told me that the first car had nitrous in the trunk. The two young men obviously died instantly. But further adding to the tragedy was that the second vehicle driver died not from injuries, but burns. Not to long after that Md. outlawed it. Here in NY. I don't have any idea whether it is legal or not. It kind of reminds of police officers all over the U.S. dying in fires from rear end collisions in Crown Vics until Ford finally manned up and corrected the problem. Gary in Elmira, NY.


its safer than gasoline i can tell you that much. N20 is a non-flammable gas. its legal in pa but can't be connected in jerzey. That sucks that they had n20 in the back of a truck sounds a little hazardous to have it open in a bed like that. More so because of the pressure it will get from the heat of the sun beating down on it. I have a bottle guage and I watch it to make sure it doesnt go into a range i dont want it to be.

i don't typically drive around with a full bottle....

bryantaylor
September 26th, 2008, 09:42 PM
moderate yourself

stop making stupid posts

slowmkviii
September 27th, 2008, 09:43 AM
Nitrous is good for running the 1/4 mile, thats it.

and top speed runs

XLRVIII
September 27th, 2008, 09:44 AM
I have a question for everyone. How safe is that stuff now a days? Specifically if you are in an auto accident. Gary in Elmira, NY.

nitrous is a non flammable gas, it's not any more dangerous than a compressed cylinder of co2.

in a collision a compressed gas cylinder IS the danger, not really what is "inside" the cylinder.

transporting a compressed gas cylinder has never been a "VERY SAFE" proposition.

in a vehicle fire, the tank more than likely wont "explode" but it will "vent it's contents" as the pressure in the bottle overwhelms the blow off valve.

now.. adding a venting nitrous bottle to an existing fire "WILL" cause some acceleration to the burn, but it's not gonna be one of those voilent explosions like you would imagin.

the initial fire probably killed them before the nitrous bottle even had time to pop the blow off valve.

slowmkviii
September 27th, 2008, 09:44 AM
Nitrous is good for running the 1/4 mile, thats it.

and passing on the freeway

slowmkviii
September 27th, 2008, 09:46 AM
nitrous is a non flammable gas, it's not any more dangerous than a compressed cylinder of co2.

in a collision a compressed gas cylinder IS the danger, not really what is "inside" the cylinder.

transporting a compressed gas cylinder has never been a "VERY SAFE" proposition.

in a vehicle fire, the tank more than likely wont "explode" but it will "vent it's contents" as the pressure in the bottle overwhelms the blow off valve.

now.. adding a venting nitrous bottle to an existing fire "WILL" cause some acceleration to the burn, but it's not gonna be one of those voilent explosions like you would imagin.

the initial fire probably killed them before the nitrous bottle even had time to pop the blow off valve.

I agree well said
I have seen pics of failed bottles no fire just lots of damage

slowmkviii
September 27th, 2008, 09:48 AM
Nitrous is good for running the 1/4 mile, thats it.

very important the front and back straights at the road track like BIR

94m5
September 27th, 2008, 09:52 AM
stop making stupid posts

What exactly is your problem?

bryantaylor
September 27th, 2008, 10:38 AM
What exactly is your problem?

nothing really, just tired of seeing people posting that STILL have no idea how to use a forum.

XLRVIII
September 27th, 2008, 11:00 AM
nothing really, just tired of seeing people posting that STILL have no idea how to use a forum.


can someone do a write up on changing the passenger side windsheild wiper?
I did the drivers side, no problem..but my arms aren't long enough to reach the passenger side.

HELP!

(tounge in cheek grin)

bryantaylor
September 27th, 2008, 11:43 AM
can someone do a write up on changing the passenger side windsheild wiper?
I did the drivers side, no problem..but my arms aren't long enough to reach the passenger side.

HELP!

(tounge in cheek grin)

:bowrofl:

AbrahamLincoln
September 27th, 2008, 01:17 PM
nothing really, just tired of seeing people posting that STILL have no idea how to use a forum.

yea like those who post negative comments for no reason. can't get enough of those guys.

AbrahamLincoln
September 27th, 2008, 01:18 PM
can someone do a write up on changing the passenger side windsheild wiper?
I did the drivers side, no problem..but my arms aren't long enough to reach the passenger side.

HELP!

(tounge in cheek grin)

yea something else in your cheek.

AbrahamLincoln
September 27th, 2008, 01:24 PM
[QUOTE=XLRVIII;429638]nitrous is a non flammable gas, it's not any more dangerous than a compressed cylinder of co2.

in a collision a compressed gas cylinder IS the danger, not really what is "inside" the cylinder.

transporting a compressed gas cylinder has never been a "VERY SAFE" proposition.

in a vehicle fire, the tank more than likely wont "explode" but it will "vent it's contents" as the pressure in the bottle overwhelms the blow off valve.

now.. adding a venting nitrous bottle to an existing fire "WILL" cause some acceleration to the burn, but it's not gonna be one of those voilent explosions like you would imagin.QUOTE]

yea really in a fire ya think? what about a full tank of gasoline in a fire? That will explode! PA doesn't make it illegal so it can't be that unsafe or there would be a law against it.

94m5
September 27th, 2008, 01:56 PM
A tankfull of gasoline is'nt really that EXPLOSIVE. I will just flare off longer. A 1/4 tank of gas is more explosive than a full one.

XLRVIII
September 27th, 2008, 02:08 PM
PA doesn't make it illegal so it can't be that unsafe or there would be a law against it.



So if there isn't a law against it in PA then it's SAFE?
that has got to be the most ludicrous statement i've ever heard.

Then consider who posted it, it kinda makes sense.

AbrahamLincoln
September 27th, 2008, 02:14 PM
i said it can't be THAT unsafe. guns are unsafe - theres laws against them. driving while talking on your cell phone is unsafe, laws against that. No laws on "compressed gas".

"then consider who posted it" - ehgh i dont even care whatever. my cars faster than yours... that should keep you busy.

XLRVIII
September 27th, 2008, 02:19 PM
yea something else in your cheek.

always thought there was something "gay" about the things you say.

this isn't a "find a peterpuffer website", so stop hitting on me..:q:q:qgot

AbrahamLincoln
September 27th, 2008, 02:22 PM
whatever a post about my broken fogger nozzle and replacing it with a tomahawk one, had a lot of merit showing how to mount a wet nozzle, and which nozzle to do that with . then it ends with you and that other clown talking smack. whatever your real cool.

XLRVIII
September 27th, 2008, 02:53 PM
my cars faster than yours... that should keep you busy.

how do you know,you never made a pass at a dragstrip. you dont know HOW fast or how slow your car is.

Your one of them "UBERCOOL" street racer doods, I hope someday to be as cool as you are.

AND.. I wouldn't be bragging that you needed a 150 shot to go faster than my 400K mile grandmas car.

keep huffin that NOS bro, you've only got 5-6 brain cells left.

when "your turd" makes a 100.99MPH N/A pass THEN you are faster than my car, until then... your just a kid with a "baby bottle" and no idea what his car runs.

AbrahamLincoln
September 27th, 2008, 05:15 PM
Lol

bryantaylor
September 27th, 2008, 06:31 PM
yea like those who post negative comments for no reason. can't get enough of those guys.

or the guys that make 3-5 posts in a row instead of learning how to multi-quote.

XLRVIII
September 27th, 2008, 06:41 PM
or the guys that make 3-5 posts in a row instead of learning how to multi-quote.

hey i resemble that remark!

bryantaylor
September 27th, 2008, 06:53 PM
hey i resemble that remark!

that

bryantaylor
September 27th, 2008, 06:54 PM
hey i resemble that remark!

is

bryantaylor
September 27th, 2008, 06:55 PM
hey i resemble that remark!

funny

ford nut
September 27th, 2008, 07:04 PM
NOS (http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=569_1222177185)

AbrahamLincoln
September 27th, 2008, 08:22 PM
oh yea? cmon look at his rims! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ry-aapt463E


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