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Sound System Project

CROWDA
August 21st, 2008, 12:42 PM
Ok guys I've decided my next upgrade is going to be the sound in my 01.

I'm wondering if you guys can show me what you're running so I can get an idea of what I want to do.

If you've got subs in the back, let me see em. A sexy deck, let me see it. I wanna see what you use to bang out the streets.

Thanks!

pelphrey
August 21st, 2008, 01:13 PM
Basically I have a pioneer deck not sure what model fixing to be replaced by a kvt-815dvd in dash tv. Memphis 2-way 5x7's in all 4 doors. Memphis 3 way 6x9's in the back. 2 10'' L7 Kicker Solo Barics on a Memphis 1100 watt class d amp. Nothing special as far as the box goes. I never open my trunk and I can't fit anything else in it so thats as clean as its going to look.

http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a386/pelphrey01/lincolnls/Photo_031508_001.jpg

rickztahone
August 21st, 2008, 03:11 PM
headunit
37135
sub and amps
37138

rickztahone
August 21st, 2008, 03:12 PM
that second pic wasn't suppose to come up. it was when i had my other amp, the one with the black amp is my current set-up

CROWDA
August 21st, 2008, 03:41 PM
thats a sexy setup rick.
I'm looking into doing something similar where everything is under the inner portion of the trunk and the rest is left open so i can still use it.

pelphrey
August 21st, 2008, 03:54 PM
RIck did you relocate the battery when you set that up? Just curious how you would jump start the car if needed?

ROCKSTAR
August 21st, 2008, 04:24 PM
damn rick, that L7s fckin sexy :]

jinx8402
August 21st, 2008, 06:18 PM
I'm in the process of re-doing my setup (again). I have all the pieces, just need to install and wire everything. I am using 2 Alpine PDX amps. These things are super small. I actually built a box to put underneath the factory floor panel. It rests on top of the spare tire. I have a couple of fans hooked up to it to keep them nice and cool. I will have to take some pictures to show it. I used to have a single ten in a box that barely took up any space. I am not going to 4 6.5 tang band drivers. 2 in the factory sub and 2 in the rear doors. For 6.5's these drivers get loud and low. Obviously nothing like a couple of 12s, but good enough for me these days. I'm moving away from the extremely loud and bass shaking. I rather have a clean crisp bass that fills in perfectly with the fronts.

BTW, I have 7" midbass in my doors and cut holes in the a-pillar for tweeters. I will post some pictures as this weekend I am probably going to try installing most of everything else.

CROWDA
August 21st, 2008, 06:29 PM
I will post some pictures as this weekend I am probably going to try installing most of everything else.

that would be excellent, cant wait to see it.

I had toyed with the idea of getting a wedge sub box for a 10" like for a pickup truck, and putting that back there so it would take up practically no space.

any thoughts on that?

jinx8402
August 21st, 2008, 08:47 PM
Do you know how to do fiberglass? That would give you a nice snug fit in the corner. I wish I had a picture of my old setup to show you how little space was taken up. Only about the rear 1/3 of my trunk was used. I had about 2/3 of my trunk still. Even with the case for my amps I could still disconnect everything and get to my spare in less than 15 mins. That was another plus with the way I set it up.

CROWDA
August 21st, 2008, 09:08 PM
i have a very basic knowledge of fiberglass but i could probably do it without too much difficulty.

ideally i would like a similar setup since i actually use my trunk quite a bit. i already have 2 12"s in a box with my amp on the side but i'm probably going to unload those since i'm kind of over banging out the whole neighborhood when i drive by.

i really just want to see how people used the space in the trunk really. ive searched around and much like finding anything else for the LS, finding a custom system has proven rather difficult.

gixxer
August 21st, 2008, 09:54 PM
http://www.lincolnvscadillac.com/showthread.php?t=44398 that is a few weeks old. ripped it out and started new.

rickztahone
August 22nd, 2008, 01:28 AM
RIck did you relocate the battery when you set that up? Just curious how you would jump start the car if needed?

although it looks like a lot of stuff to move around, i've had it long enough that it only takes me about 10 minutes to take everything out. it's a few screws and putting the amp to one side and taking the L7 out. btw, never had to get a jump start

damn rick, that L7s fckin sexy :]

thank you very much

thats a sexy setup rick.
I'm looking into doing something similar where everything is under the inner portion of the trunk and the rest is left open so i can still use it.

i've been thinking of putting the amps on the back of that L7 so i can have space for groceries, as is we have to take the wifey's car. the extra space would be useful

HyeLifeLS
August 22nd, 2008, 06:25 AM
that L7 is movin' things..

jinx8402
August 22nd, 2008, 08:42 AM
i have a very basic knowledge of fiberglass but i could probably do it without too much difficulty.

ideally i would like a similar setup since i actually use my trunk quite a bit. i already have 2 12"s in a box with my amp on the side but i'm probably going to unload those since i'm kind of over banging out the whole neighborhood when i drive by.

i really just want to see how people used the space in the trunk really. ive searched around and much like finding anything else for the LS, finding a custom system has proven rather difficult.

If you're not looking for extremely loud, have you thought about shallow mount subs? Depending on your budget you could probably get 2 10's and take up very little space. Some of them are as shallow as 3". Something like this: Elemental Design SQ10 (http://www.edesignaudio.com/product_info.php?t=2&products_id=106). I've read about people who used that particular sub in a box with no more than 5" outer depth.

2 of those with a Alpine PDX 600.1 and you will have a small footprint from both the subs and amp.

CROWDA
August 22nd, 2008, 10:08 AM
nah not really obsessed with loud, just want something clean to feel when i creep lol

n8bachelor
August 22nd, 2008, 01:20 PM
I'm wondering if you guys can show me what you're running so I can get an idea of what I want to do.

If you've got subs in the back, let me see em. A sexy deck, let me see it. I wanna see what you use to bang out the streets.

Thanks!

As requested:
37160

Mine is not as deep as others so I still have full access to the spare and battery, with enough room for supplies :p
37161

No navigation on this unit yet, just DVD and ipod currently.
37162

This one I just threw in cause it is one of my favorite shots of the LS.
37163

CROWDA
August 22nd, 2008, 02:47 PM
n8 that is really clean!

thats what i wanna do. shallow set so i can still get to all the necessities and still have room for whatever gear i need to throw back there.

how do you like that alpine head unit? i was looking into a double din dvd but the prices for new are unreal.

SlickLS
August 22nd, 2008, 05:54 PM
Here is an idea for you. You can still get a lot of sound and still have a lot of space in the trunk. Here I have one 15" Memphis M-1 DVC subwoofer with a regular ole box that anyone with minor woodworking skills can build. As you can see I still have plenty of room in the trunk (enough to fit a set of golf clubs and still clear the sub). As for head units I have a 7" Pioneer Flip out with built in dvd player. I also have a remote gain knob mounted by my center console so I can adjust the bass to sound like a factory setup or I can crank on the knob and make it sound like I have two twelves in the trunk. Good luck with your setup.

02V8Sport
August 29th, 2008, 07:02 AM
For you stereo buffs!

I have 2 12" Infintiy Reference woofers in some pretty small boxes and they sound great to me, but I want to cut down to 1 12" sub. What should I go with that will really hit? I was looking at the Kicker DVC 12" L7 to get my amp down to 2 ohms. Is that a good way to go? How do you guys like the L7? Thanks!!

1LoudLS
August 29th, 2008, 09:25 AM
the L7 is the greatest subs that i have ever owned, this is the third lincoln that i have had my two 15" L7's in. the only way i would ever get rid of the L7's is if i ever upgrade to a pair of 12" Solo X's

KICKER FTW

rickztahone
August 29th, 2008, 11:36 AM
the L7 is the greatest subs that i have ever owned, this is the third lincoln that i have had my two 15" L7's in. the only way i would ever get rid of the L7's is if i ever upgrade to a pair of 12" Solo X's

KICKER FTW

that exactly what i was going to say including the what you said about the two X 12's. the only thing is i only have one L7. how did you get two in there? pic? and what are you pushing them with? higher amp alt?

1LoudLS
August 29th, 2008, 01:33 PM
that exactly what i was going to say including the what you said about the two X 12's. the only thing is i only have one L7. how did you get two in there? pic? and what are you pushing them with? higher amp alt?

i'm pushing them with a kicker kx1200.1 (the test sheet says that it has 1487 watts rms) i bought a 170 amp for my 1st gen, but i havent found any for a 2nd gen, so i bought a alt from a junk yard and have sent it to get rewound. and fitting them it was no easy task, they are in a small sealed box(about 1.75 cubic foot box each) and they are put in, subs toward the front of the car, and there is sheet metal and dynamat sealing the box foward and away from the trunk
sorry i cant upload any pictures from my computer at work

Lincoln ave
August 29th, 2008, 02:04 PM
No pics right now but those PDX amps are the way to go. I have a 12' type x running off of a PDX 1000.1, nice and loud. And my interiors are 2 pair of JL Audio ZR 6.5 components, running off of a PDX 4.150 and a set of 6x9's in the deck running off of a PDX 2.150. They don't make that 2.150 anymore, but it's probably the loudest and clearest system out there. And the head unit is an Alpine WA200.

CROWDA
August 29th, 2008, 02:42 PM
whoa whoa whoa... hang on. So are we in consensus that kickers are the way to go?

I don't know anyone running them, nor have I heard anything about them until now.

rickztahone
August 29th, 2008, 11:05 PM
you haven't heard about kicker? if you haven't heard about them then i'm sure you haven't heard of all the other superior stuff there is out there as well. the only thing you need to have is a deep wallet. 1LoudLS's system is pretty extensive, mine is somewhat similar w/ the 2 amps and i have 4 177R's alpine 6.5 in all my 4 doors and 4 more 6x9's on my rear deck, alpine r types and some mb quarts. and 3 tv's. the kicker knocks though, ask Artur

Lincoln ave
August 30th, 2008, 06:14 AM
After owning a few Kickers I would never buy another product from them. The L7 can't even compare with their older solo's when they were round. I had 2 of the new L7's and a kicker 1000 watt mono amp. My Alpine type X hits harde and clearer by itself. It is a 12.

rickztahone
August 31st, 2008, 01:39 AM
After owning a few Kickers I would never buy another product from them. The L7 can't even compare with their older solo's when they were round. I had 2 of the new L7's and a kicker 1000 watt mono amp. My Alpine type X hits harde and clearer by itself. It is a 12.

my friend has to alpine x types 12's in his 300 and i was not impressed. also, it always depends what you couple them with (any amp, sub combo) as well. all in all, i've had over 5 kicker products and none have disappointed me till this day.

Lincoln ave
August 31st, 2008, 09:01 AM
If he has 2 Type X 12's and your not impressed, then either they are under powered, in the wrong enclosure, wired wrong or they are really type R's or type S's. The only single sub that I have personally heard that comes close is the JL 13W7. But Kicker use to be good but they are just garbabge now. Notice you need those SOLObarics in pairs. They were named SOLObaric because you were supposed to only need one. When they were round that was true but the square ones suck balls.

rickztahone
August 31st, 2008, 09:58 AM
difference in opinion

1LoudLS
September 1st, 2008, 09:27 AM
After owning a few Kickers I would never buy another product from them. The L7 can't even compare with their older solo's when they were round. I had 2 of the new L7's and a kicker 1000 watt mono amp. My Alpine type X hits harde and clearer by itself. It is a 12.

except for the fact that my boy was the orignal kicker fan, he had two round 15" solo's (even tho you should only have one)in a ported box in his t bird vs my 2 15" square in a sealed box in my mark and i was about 4db louder after that he picked up two 12" squares and a new amp and got himself an extra 2db.
sorry to hear that you had a bad experience with kicker, but somthing must have been wrong, the type X will sound clearer but never louder,

Lincoln ave
September 1st, 2008, 11:27 AM
I'll put my Ls up as a bet that 2 L7's will never hit harder or louder than 2 Type X's. If both systems are set up right, there is no way 2 L7's would hit harder than 2 Type X's. I have been doing this for along time. It is true that i use to be a fan of Kicker, but after they got bought out they have never been the same. My S-10 pick up hit 157db's with 6 10 solo's. They were the round ones, But the square ones just don't cut it. The guys at Kicker will tell you the same thing. Due to physics, Sound doesn't travel properly from a square. Thats why all other speakers are cone shaped.

1LoudLS
September 1st, 2008, 04:13 PM
why would the guys at kicker say that there top 3 lines of subs are inferior?

if so, wouldn't the guys at kicker go back and redesign a better round sub?

if not, why would they not try to be the best?

Lincoln ave
September 1st, 2008, 04:30 PM
The guys at kicker will tell you that the round solobaric was a better sub and more effecient. Of course they are going to tell you they make the best subs. But they will also tell you that the L6 was better than the L7. and the square sub was put out to boost sales. It was a gimmick sub. People wanted something different than everyone else and a square sticks out in a world of circles. I am sure you bought your L7's because of the hype or you heard your buddies who bought his because off the hype. If I could blind fold you and stick you in about 10 identical cars with all the same setup except the subs, you would be amazed where you place the car with the L7's. The new MTX is a better sub and the Orion. But if you are use to something then it might be hard to change your mind. What do you think about JL?

1LoudLS
September 2nd, 2008, 10:01 AM
JL's good, expensive but good, we put 2 w7 13" in a old school STS last year and it had more bass than a crackhouse, the jackhole even tried to blame us when his windshield cracked a couple months later from a small rock chip. i defently dig their amps, they pretty much build them bullet proof.

trust me, i dont give a hoot about hype, i went in to my cousen's shop, they had 3 cars with 12" top notch setups,one had two rockford T2's, one had two titanium eclipse's, and the last had two L7's. I listened to them all and then made my decision. the rockfords and the eclipse did sound cleaner but the l7's were louder and hit much lower than anything that i have heard. when i go to competitions the only guys that beat me are the guys with solo x's, not anything else.

Lincoln ave
September 2nd, 2008, 04:10 PM
Those other two subs that you mentioned that I cant even waste my breath on are garbage subs. I would put the L7's about number 5 on my list of subs that I have personally heard. My old system in my Tahoe actually sent a magnet through one of those rockfords. I had a 0.3 amp, I told the guy that his precious T2 coludnt handle the power, He didn't believe me and found out the hard way. Eclipse really still makes subs? I thought they learned their lesson.

napoleon1072
September 2nd, 2008, 04:16 PM
Can't believe I missed this post :rolleyes:

I'm rockin a full Pioneer set up and it bangs! 2 12s in the trunk and Pioneer Premiere 4-ways all around it's extra crisp.

http://memimage.cardomain.com/member_images/8/web/836000-836999/836894_51_full.jpg

http://memimage.cardomain.com/member_images/8/web/836000-836999/836894_52_full.jpg

http://memimage.cardomain.com/member_images/8/web/836000-836999/836894_21_full.jpg

forgive the blur, also the subs are powered by a Hifonics Brutus Amp wired at 1 ohm

CROWDA
September 2nd, 2008, 04:29 PM
thank you for remembering why we're all here lol

02V8Sport
September 3rd, 2008, 03:58 PM
maybe Ill go with a JL??

pektel
September 3rd, 2008, 04:00 PM
I'm getting the Roadmaster 10" sub from Kmart. I've heard those POUND...

02V8Sport
September 3rd, 2008, 04:06 PM
My top 3 sub picks

1. Sparkomatic
2. Realistic
3. Kraco

rickztahone
September 3rd, 2008, 09:49 PM
what about a zapco amp? i ultimately like low base and i have my 8 speakers (not including tweeters) for the clarity. my goal is 2 12" kicker X's. i've never entered a decibel drag but i know in my mind that my kicker bumps and any louder might rattle my brain a little too much, lol. also, i might add, the setup i have around my sub has made my sub bump louder due to the echo effect and the sound waves having a more difficult time exiting my trunk space.

pelphrey
September 3rd, 2008, 10:21 PM
This is probably a bad idea because I am a huge kicker fan haha. But here are the latest pics of one of the L7 10's I have. Its my fault, I should have put 3 in instead of just 2. But here is what happens when you put a 1100 watt memphis class D amp on 2 10" L7 Subs.

http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a386/pelphrey01/lincolnls/DSC01133.jpg

http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a386/pelphrey01/lincolnls/DSC01132.jpg

http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a386/pelphrey01/lincolnls/DSC01131.jpg

rubberducky700
September 3rd, 2008, 10:31 PM
what trunk?


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