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Full Throttle Question

tyhackman15
August 18th, 2008, 10:05 PM
So tonight i was driving on a country road and playing with my scanguage II, so out of curiosity i put it on TPS (throttle position sensor)

Came up to a stop sign, threw it in SST and gunned it. Never showed over 75?! :confused: Is the damn electric throttle that bad that you cannot go 100% throttle?

Oh, and it's a 2005 LS V8 sport.



Thanks,

Tyler

NYC LS8
August 19th, 2008, 07:30 AM
I'll have to try that with mine and see what it says, just to compare.

MMAFIGHTER121
August 19th, 2008, 07:50 AM
hm - sounds like something the tuners should be aware of..

owlman
August 19th, 2008, 10:03 AM
Maybe you could take off your intake and have a friend watch the throttle while you floor it, although I'm not sure if it will open fully in park/neutral.

gcwimmer
August 19th, 2008, 10:27 AM
Maybe you could take off your intake and have a friend watch the throttle while you floor it, although I'm not sure if it will open fully in park/neutral.

3K rev limiter, shuts down the fuel.

owlman
August 19th, 2008, 10:56 AM
yes but will it close the throttle plate is the question.

NYC LS8
August 21st, 2008, 02:36 PM
I went WOT real quick in my car last night and the ScanGauge showed 76 for the TPS. Couldn't keep on it because it wasn't a very long street, so.....that's my story.

02LSE96LSC91SE84TC
August 21st, 2008, 03:05 PM
Wierd, gotta love that tbw.

97stscaddy
August 21st, 2008, 05:51 PM
Part of the reason Ill never own a car that has that, as long as I can help it. Ill trust the job of accelerating to my foot and my foot only.

02LSE96LSC91SE84TC
August 21st, 2008, 08:43 PM
Part of the reason Ill never own a car that has that, as long as I can help it. Ill trust the job of accelerating to my foot and my foot only.

My 06 F150 has it. It is definately not the same as having a throttle cable.


Probably a emission thing.

King03LS8
August 21st, 2008, 08:44 PM
You have the longest screen name ever!

02LSE96LSC91SE84TC
August 21st, 2008, 08:45 PM
You have the longest screen name ever!

Me? Nah

Silver_LS
August 22nd, 2008, 05:00 AM
So how do we take advantage of that remaining 24-25% ???

owlman
August 22nd, 2008, 09:32 AM
Cut a hole in your floor so the pedal can go down farther... :lol:

02V8Sport
August 22nd, 2008, 09:58 AM
Must have been another one of Fords tactics, making the LS limited in power so it doesnt beat their sport car, The Mustang. HEHE!!

NYC LS8
August 22nd, 2008, 09:58 AM
Maybe I'll ask ILLS if there's something that can be done in the tune..?

tyhackman15
August 22nd, 2008, 11:55 AM
I was thinking rigging up some nice fishing line from my pedal to the throttle body.... bingo, direct connect throttle!! hahaha

xarruda89x
August 22nd, 2008, 12:12 PM
Cut a hole in your floor so the pedal can go down farther... :lol:

Genius. :p

Silver_LS
August 23rd, 2008, 06:59 AM
Cut a hole in your floor so the pedal can go down farther... :lol:
:(

TwansLS
August 24th, 2008, 07:27 PM
...why???

n8bachelor
August 25th, 2008, 08:58 AM
What about those guys who run N2O? Don't they have to have WOT (TPS=100%) in order to activate the bottle? I know there are gen2 N2O guys on here.

TwansLS
August 26th, 2008, 11:13 AM
someone get to the bottom of this!! lol

Silver_LS
August 27th, 2008, 08:28 AM
Guess we'll never know :P

rainjacks
August 27th, 2008, 08:40 AM
Someone with a Gen 1 should open up the intake an manually pull the throttle cable to observe how far the throttle actually opens up (with the car off). Possibly the TPS just gives incorrect numbers. I'd volunteer, but I have a fantasy football draft tonight. That may not tell us much other than revealing if there is a physical stop before WOT. As for Gen 2 guys, I don't know if it will reveal anything.

owlman
August 27th, 2008, 10:47 AM
The scangauge manual says that on some cars full throttle will not read as 100 :shifty:

pagluy
August 27th, 2008, 11:57 AM
It's a conspiracy.

rainjacks
August 27th, 2008, 12:41 PM
If it a big problem for anyone just buy camthman's turbo setup. That will take care of it!

NYC LS8
August 27th, 2008, 12:44 PM
It's just a way for the Gen I guys to feel good about having a motor that puts out less HP. Even though the Gen II cars at 75 percent throttle will smack a typical Gen I at 100 ;)




:p

lincoln00
August 27th, 2008, 01:34 PM
What about those guys who run N2O? Don't they have to have WOT (TPS=100%) in order to activate the bottle? I know there are gen2 N2O guys on here.

VERY GOOD QUESTION....

the damn fly by wire wont open unless under a load in gear... damn neutral rev limiter.

so really there is no way to tell.. other then maybe on a dyno

02LSE96LSC91SE84TC
August 27th, 2008, 01:42 PM
It's just a way for the Gen I guys to feel good about having a motor that puts out less HP. Even though the Gen II cars at 75 percent throttle will smack a typical Gen I at 100 ;)




:p

I'll let this slide since you said typical...:rolleyes:

NYC LS8
August 27th, 2008, 01:43 PM
Exactly why I said it, bucko!

02LSE96LSC91SE84TC
August 27th, 2008, 01:48 PM
Exactly why I said it, bucko!


Bucko....What the he11 is a bucko? The thing at the end of a belt, or some kind of foriegn currency.

NYC LS8
August 27th, 2008, 02:21 PM
Things that make ya go hmmmmmmmmmmmm :D

02LSE96LSC91SE84TC
August 27th, 2008, 02:23 PM
Or a KFC dinner. Bucko of chickooon.

rainjacks
August 27th, 2008, 03:18 PM
It's just a way for the Gen I guys to feel good about having a motor that puts out less HP. Even though the Gen II cars at 75 percent throttle will smack a typical Gen I at 100 ;)


Come on! We're friends here. There would be no such thing as a Gen 2 if it wasn't for the Gen 1. Make fun of ricers not us. :D

02LSE96LSC91SE84TC
August 27th, 2008, 03:36 PM
Come on! We're friends here. There would be no such thing as a Gen 2 if it wasn't for the Gen 1. Make fun of ricers not us. :D

Unfortunately Gen2 owners think they are better than us. I agree same team but whatcha gonna do.


I'll take the throttle cable anyday.:D ;)

pektel
August 27th, 2008, 03:38 PM
Make fun of ricers not us. :D

:D

pektel
August 27th, 2008, 03:43 PM
And the ever popular:

http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c89/91nissan240/jsd003.jpg

NYC LS8
August 27th, 2008, 03:50 PM
Come on! We're friends here. There would be no such thing as a Gen 2 if it wasn't for the Gen 1. Make fun of ricers not us. :D

A little friendly ribbing never hurt no one. Don't be a pansy :D




I'll take the throttle cable anyday.:D ;)

You and me both!!! TBW can lick my taint!

1LoudLS
August 28th, 2008, 09:55 AM
my 1st gen was a pretty cool car, but my 2nd gen is way better (except TBW) i mean the auto up front windows alone is worth the upgrade:)

pagluy
August 28th, 2008, 10:55 AM
Gen1 doesn't have auto windows in front? wtf


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