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Cold air intake

lincoln00
June 20th, 2008, 01:03 AM
has anyone mad there own cold air for the LS. if show how and any links to sound clips or steps on what they ran in to!

SPSully
June 20th, 2008, 07:19 AM
I've built a few for my 01.... but mine are a bit more advanced than the average PVC jobs. Welding, bending, grindind, that sort of stuff. Also had to do some minor hose fab to get rid of the crap hoses on the stock intake. I have a teaser photo on my 6spd TT Nitro LS thread.

here is my newest one after most of the welding was done. She's been ground down and had a few nipples added in since:

http://i223.photobucket.com/albums/dd318/sully2582/LS%20pics/CIMG1397.jpg

lincoln00
June 20th, 2008, 03:30 PM
I just built a mass air flow adapter, going to weld it to a 3 inch 90 degree and put the filter in to the bumper/fender...if you use just what you have there it is a short ram hot air... should have pics up tonight.. if i can get a hold of my buddy to use his welder!

lincoln00
June 20th, 2008, 03:32 PM
did it make yours any loader on the intake side... going from stock box to cone?

SPSully
June 20th, 2008, 03:38 PM
i dont know.... I had a nitrous backfire make some nice loud boom type destruction! LOL She sounds like a nitro funny car right now!

and there is more to mine..... jsut not in the picture. That picture doesnt even have the nipples or bungs for the rest of the tubing. If your using a 3" pipe to go into the fender, be ready either fro vibration noise or to modify the area you want to go through

JWerner2
June 20th, 2008, 03:44 PM
I'm looking to get a intake made or find one cheap for the LS. Paying that price for it seems senseless. I seen true CAI's that are way more elaborate than this ugly thing for way less for other vehicles.

It does how ever make sense to sell it at that price if people are willing to pay seeing on how its the only one made when it comes to the first generation LS. After I added my K&N adapter and K&N conical filter that alone made a difference in sound. I don't know anybody else personally with a LS let alone someone with one that has the full on kit but I can only imagine what it sounds like.

NYC LS8
June 20th, 2008, 03:53 PM
www.intakehoses.com

Go there and pick out stuff to make your own. I started making one that put the filter into the fenderwell, but my car sits too low and the filter is basically on the ground. Haven't gotten around to finishing it, but you'll want 3.5" OD pipe if you get anything through there.

SPSully
June 20th, 2008, 03:55 PM
mine ugly? or the ones for sale? Mine is a very rough crude first started putting things together picture

JWerner2
June 20th, 2008, 03:57 PM
I thought the intake plumbing measured out to 3".

mine ugly? or the ones for sale? Mine is a very rough crude first started putting things together picture



Don't take offense I was not speaking of yours. The LS just has the longest most simple design. To me its just a ugly intake in general for the 1st Gen.

I understand yours is a rough draft:lol:

ps: I'm laughing about the misunderstanding not trying to be smart.

SPSully
June 20th, 2008, 03:59 PM
does....the throttle boddies of both 1st and 2nd gen are 3"od. He may know something about their sizing though

lincoln00
June 20th, 2008, 04:04 PM
I'm using 3 inch.... I already cut the hole bigger for the pipe to go in the fender well/ bumper.. its going to point down at the ground.. I will just need to make a bracket to go to the original intake box mount.. the filter close to the ground wont hurt, thats were the cold air is.... unless your lincoln can swim it wont be a problem...

wasn't saying anything bad about your nitro LS.. was just saying a filter in the engine compartment is a hot air intake!

Your LS is probably bad ass

oh and by the way.. my intake has cost 20 bucks mins filter...

NYC LS8
June 20th, 2008, 04:06 PM
Here's what I ordered and it fit with no problems..

C40B-350X3 Silicone Sleeve 3.5" ID X 3" Long - Gloss Black
434-446PE Aluminized Steel Elbow 4" OD X 90 Degree Short Radius - One Longer Leg
AL35X4 Aluminum Intake Tubing 3.5" OD X 4" Long
64060 Stainless Worm-Gear Clamp for 3.5" ID Hoses

Yes, that says 4" OD tubing. I clicked the wrong thing and didn't realize it at the time. I have pictures of it up on here somewhere..

SPSully
June 20th, 2008, 04:07 PM
I know you werent man.... I just thought someone else....I think it was werner was saying mine is ugly.... I agree that pic looks like bum. I cut the black part out of a previous version and added some fresh pipe. Trust me it doesnt look like that anymore.

20 bucks huh.... not bad! I think I'm into for around 30, but I have made 3 or 4 now with that 30. Gotta love having your own bender, mig welder, and grinder!

NYC LS8
June 20th, 2008, 04:10 PM
Here's some pictures I took while test fitting it all. There is a bracket underneath where the hole for the tubing goes. That and the wheel well liner got in the way, so that bracket needs to be trimmed or needs to go completely. In my case, I need to order like a 45 degree elbow to turn it towards the corner of the bumper cover.

http://www.lincolnvscadillac.com/showthread.php?t=35863&page=2&highlight=custom+cai

One day I'll get around to finishing it.

JWerner2
June 20th, 2008, 04:28 PM
NHLS I was not speaking of yours at all. Please read post #9!

lincoln00
June 20th, 2008, 04:49 PM
they must have changed the engine compartments on the 03 and newer... mine is just a 90degree pipe.. I will take pics for sure. mine looks nothing like that!

lincoln00
June 20th, 2008, 04:51 PM
I should also say that i'm not replacing the stock intake tube... just relocating the filter... that is for another day!

LEOV5
June 20th, 2008, 09:16 PM
Hey, I need pictures!!! How do you expect me order anything eat if the menu has no pictures???

SPSully
June 20th, 2008, 09:49 PM
Werner I know you werent I saw 9, I was just clerifying for 00. I agree its long and plain, but with the fitment adjustments I made, it kind of takes away from that long shoot to the front. More curvey if you will.

lincoln00
June 20th, 2008, 09:49 PM
No need for pics.... take it apart and figure it out....

SPSully
June 20th, 2008, 10:00 PM
speaking of pics.... I'm looking at that pic I posted.... damn i dont even remember it looking like that! Thats the best bart of custom fabrication.... you get to see your hard work pay off!

JWerner2
June 21st, 2008, 07:49 AM
NHLS, I'm taking you have the Xcal to begin with but wouldn't changing the design of the intake even slightly require a re-tune for,... something ( I forget exactly what )?

SPSully
June 21st, 2008, 08:15 AM
technically yes. Every time you change anything you can retune to optimise your AFRs. But the gain from a cold air intake is less than most people think. My using less tight bends will free some air flow, but with an already killer tune, it should stay pretty close to dead on. I have new fuel injectors and a new fuel pump, as well as a MAF that I'll be ordering up shortly. The car wont be able to handle the new MAF or injectors so I will NEED to get her tuned at that point. But to answer your question more directly... My car with new CAI and tune I have will be closer to optimal tuning than any stock LS so no it wont NEED a tune.

JWerner2
June 21st, 2008, 08:19 AM
OK let me ask this. I don't have a tune so when I get my intake made must it be 100% precise or can I have some slight modifications to it?

SPSully
June 21st, 2008, 08:28 AM
you can have modifications to it. The LS is a smart friggin car. It will learn different aspects of the fuel/air delivery. For example, it will relearn how to use a fuel pump if you upgrade yours. No tunning is needed. Most cars (i say most because I dont want to say all and have someone know of the ONE i've never heard of) with EFI can take a CAI with no issues. and if you look around there are some wierd intakes out there! Mine has no sharp bends moved the MAF a couple inches, and sucks from outside of the engine bay. She'll run with no problems! If you have more questions hit me up on AIM, or you can call/text me 251 295 0657

JWerner2
June 21st, 2008, 08:32 AM
OK, I am mainly concerned about the repositioning of the MAFS. I am aware of it being able to handle the filter placement outside of the bay but its just the MAFS that concerns me.

SPSully
June 21st, 2008, 08:36 AM
well if you have any questions call me. You should be good to go though. just dont put anything in front of the MAF that will cause turbulence.

lincoln00
June 21st, 2008, 01:08 PM
all obd II cars have a short term and long term fuel trim... they will all ajust for minor changes!

SPSully
June 22nd, 2008, 01:10 AM
all obd II cars have a short term and long term fuel trim... they will all ajust for minor changes!

you are correct! Smart friggin cars aint they? ;)

TDUB
August 2nd, 2008, 04:35 AM
Where were you guys relocating the maf to?

CarbonTC
August 2nd, 2008, 10:01 PM
hey guys, newbe here.
I am making my own one of carbon fiber 3kx3k wave for the box setup and aluminum adaptor to my MAF box connection on my V6 engine. I made several researches and it seems there is no company out there that makes aftermarket intakes for LS V6's. So I opted to make mine.
The carbon fiber enclosed box will look like one of my products for other cars i make as shown below:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v471/Carbontech/CF%20ZX2%20Special/cf006.jpg

and i will use a 6-8" K&N cone air filter.
-Cristian

CarbonTC
August 2nd, 2008, 10:02 PM
PS: that part above is a CF a-pillar for an escort zx2 (a 2 door coupe).

JWerner2
August 3rd, 2008, 06:42 PM
I don't think you have done the proper research.;)


Can you post pics of what you have done so far?

SPSully
August 4th, 2008, 10:55 AM
not reloctaing them..... leaving them right where they are!


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