I am selling both of my Magnaflow mufflers because i want Flowmaster 40's. They were installed new two days ago and after driving them around i wasn't happy with them. The tone is nice and deep and sounds good but its just not what i was looking for, i was looking for something a little louder. I live in southern california, whittier area. I paid $120 for the mufflers but i realize that they are now used so shoot me an offer. If you want them shipped i will go 1/2 on it from 90604 zip.

BTW i am 01 Lincoln LS on the Automotive forum.

I was thinking about doing a Magnaflow muffler but I've been reading it's not very loud. Let us know how the Flow 40 does.

your right its not really loud but sounds a lot nicer then stock. I'm sure if you removed the resonators it would sound louder though.

I have them and am not happy. they sound really nice at WOT or doing a big burnout, but, does not work well for getting people to race you.

PRECISELY THE REASON I WANT FLOWS. have you tried removing resonators with them?

I did a 2-1/2 cat back system, no resignators, and super 40's.... I hated it. The 40's sounded like crap, they had a loud droning noise at a 40 mph cruise, sounded terrible at WOT, high pitched. I was happier with no muffflers.

And on top of that, they started to rust a week after i got them

I did a 2-1/2 cat back system, no resignators, and super 40's.... I hated it. The 40's sounded like crap, they had a loud droning noise at a 40 mph cruise, sounded terrible at WOT, high pitched. I was happier with no muffflers.

And on top of that, they started to rust a week after i got them

do you think that if i ran 2.5" press bent pipes from the cats to the muffler w/out resonator it will be a lot louder

I've been kicking this around, and I think I'm gonna do it just because nobody else has, or at least said anything about it... I'm taking the cats off the car and leaving the rest of the exhauste alone, for now anyway.

Anybody else try this?

yes, but you can also expect more interior resonance.... which tends to get annoying while on the e-way for a long period of time.

i actually have my interior completely dynomatted because of my 3 12"a in my trunk.

Was that done with the rest of the system stock, or with aftermarket mufflers and resonators? I would have to think you'd pick up a noticeable gain in power and MPG.

I've been kicking this around, and I think I'm gonna do it just because nobody else has, or at least said anything about it... I'm taking the cats off the car and leaving the rest of the exhauste alone, for now anyway.

Anybody else try this?
are you saying your removing them and runing them from headers or connecting headers to pipes and running from stock pipes?

are you saying your removing them and runing them from headers or connecting headers to pipes and running from stock pipes?
i think he was saying yes to my reply and not the reply on removing cats completely

I'd remake the pipes that have the cats on them, and just continue on with the rest of the system. Worked great on my 86 Merq, and on my 351 Capri. I guess it would be considered an "off-road H-Pipe" for lack of a better name. Not like I really care about the EPA nazi's...

Does somebody already make headers for these?

i actually have my interior completely dynomatted because of my 3 12"a in my trunk.


So do I, makes no difference.

I've got Kenwood excellon 6x8 in the doors, excellon 4 in the center (where the stock ash tray was) and excellon xt14's in the center console sides.... I'm running a crossfire 1202 on each pair of 6x8's and a 302 on the center. (see my member photo garage for pics) Anyways, my point is I can make it unbearably LOUD in the car, get out and close the doors.... and hardly hear a thing! But, oddly enough, the exhaust resonance still comes through.

i just figured it would help being that dm's purpose it to control and eliminate resonant frequencies. I figured it would absorb not only the bass resonant frequencies but the exhaust aswell. Oh well. But anyways i don't think i would mind the resonance being that i drive with 130+ DBs pounding :)

What year is your car? I'm wondering what gears you have... I have the 3.58's... it might change where the resonance occurs.

What year is your car? I'm wondering what gears you have... I have the 3.58's... it might change where the resonance occurs.

2001 v8

basically what i am looking for is a loud deep rumble at idle and a nice deep toned acceleration. Idealy i would like the way a stock mustang gt sounds. I hate the way rice sounds.

Go back to the basics... larger dia pipe, roughly equates to lower tones, longer lengths of pipe does too. There is a muffler made by MAC, called a "flowpath" it is similar in construction to a flowmaster, but it doesn't make that tinny sound. My friends swear by them on the GT's but I haven't heard one in person yet. MAC makes some really nice products.

Well, then the super 40's might be what you are looking for. Get rid of the resignators, and do 2-1/2 to the super 40's (center in/offset out fits best). It definately sounded great at idle, but anything over 4000 rpm or at WOT was just annoying to me. But, i suppose that is just my personal opinion. So if you arent worried about the rusting issue, go with them.

We'll see... I'm a tinkerer, and I like to build stuff myself. Fortunately a buddy of mine has an exhauste shop, so I can play and experiment some. I gotta get teh driver side valve cover gasket done up first though!!

in order for me to get my damn flows i need to sell these magnas first. heh i'll trade you since you don't like yours...

I'd be all for the trade.... i wouldn't mind trying the magnaflows.... but I sold the 40's to a buddy a few months ago..... still just running straight pipe until I get the time to figure out what I want to do. Why dont you try running straight from the cats like I have now? you might actually be happy with it.

I was thinking of running a 3" pipe from the cats to the back, was hopeing that the length of pipe alone would make it sound nicely but then again i don't want it stupidly loud. Do you happen to have a sound bite of the strait pipe. One thing for sure i do not want a crackling sound at WOT.

PRECISELY THE REASON I WANT FLOWS. have you tried removing resonators with them?
Its ok for now Im on the HIway a lot right now, well I will be when I get my DL back. 3 speading tikes in IL and they don't let you keep it long. 2 were 40+ over so i F#$@ed myself on that one
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Wow 3 speeding tickets gets your license taken away?

Anyways i still want to know if just removing the resonators will improve the sound volume any and if so is it a lot or a little. I also want to know if it will sound :q:q:q:qty if i just removed mufflers and ran strait pipe from cats all the way to the back of the car.

Wow 3 speeding tickets gets your license taken away?

Anyways i still want to know if just removing the resonators will improve the sound volume any and if so is it a lot or a little. I also want to know if it will sound :q:q:q:qty if i just removed mufflers and ran strait pipe from cats all the way to the back of the car.
Do you have true duals of a split. havent tryed it since im not driving
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Do you have true duals of a split. havent tryed it since im not driving
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yes true duels

yes true duels
well take the cats off, no resonater and Im thinking about a 50 magnaflow sound good and deap, wiyh out sounding cheep

well take the cats off, no resonater and Im thinking about a 50 magnaflow sound good and deap, wiyh out sounding cheep

I still want to be emissions legal.

I still want to be emissions legal.
Why? were do you live? register somewere eals Ill even bet your ensuence will go down to. :wrench

Remember... The EPA is your friend! Why would you want to hurt the envoronment like that?

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Remember... The EPA is your friend! Why would you want to hurt the envoronment like that?

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ya, i live in cali i do not want my check engine light on and i want to be able to pass smog

I don't know that the check engine light would come on as long as you put the O2 sensors back in the pipe...smog wise, I'm setting mine up to be changeable back and forth. Yeah, it's a PIA, but for performance and millage at $2 a gallon it's worth an hour of screwing around...

I don't know that the check engine light would come on as long as you put the O2 sensors back in the pipe...smog wise, I'm setting mine up to be changeable back and forth. Yeah, it's a PIA, but for performance and millage at $2 a gallon it's worth an hour of screwing around...
The EPA like any gov. agency Is not your pal. but how about more regulashons on farm and outher heavey stuff. also maney states do not requier it every were. In IL every thing south of CHITOWN is eximpet. check the book. :F :L

i rather be legal though

Here in PA where I live only 4 counties had emmissions testing... now we all have visual, but no test, with no exemption for milage per year like they did in the places that actually tested. Yeah, it's messed up. In a year or two, we'll have full emmissions and regular state inspection too, just another way PA is working to screw you.

Something I noticed, and don't know the answer to is how come we don't have a crossover tube in our exhaust? This is the first V8 with duals I've ever seen that didn't have the tube. I know you guys were talking about replacement X pipes, which would solve that. But from stock? Heck, even my Merq had that...

Something I noticed, and don't know the answer to is how come we don't have a crossover tube in our exhaust? This is the first V8 with duals I've ever seen that didn't have the tube. I know you guys were talking about replacement X pipes, which would solve that. But from stock? Heck, even my Merq had that...

I looked under mine today and it has a crossover tube/H-pipe. It's right before the axle and after the resonators.

The EPA like any gov. agency Is not your pal. but how about more regulashons on farm and outher heavey stuff. also maney states do not requier it every were. In IL every thing south of CHITOWN is eximpet. check the book. :F :L
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