Hey guys I am new here. I am selling my 2002 Mustang GT so I can buy a Lincoln LS. I was wondering what do you guys get for MPG in the V6 and V8 engines on an avg?

I get around 19mpg driving to school and such around town and 22mpg taking trips down to my shorehouse which is mostly highway and back roads. 2000 V8.

you must live where the roads are very long and constant with no traffic lights. damn how do you get 19 lol

i get over 20 easy on the highway and 15 16 ish in the city

17-18 around town (Virginia suburbs), 21-22 highway. (2000 V8).

Highest I've hit was 24.3 driving from DE to VA in the middle of the night with no traffic and cruise control set to 65 the whole way (all highway).

I'm getting 20 right now. 19.8 on average around town. Do alot of mixed driving so it stays in the 19-20 range. Still sucks. I would like 40+ on reg gas and still have a car with some balls.

03 v8. I'm getting about 19 mpg.

I have one of each. The V6 gets the same in-town mileage as the V8. On the freeway the V8 gets ~2mpg better.

I have one of each. The V6 gets the same in-town mileage as the V8. On the freeway the V8 gets ~2mpg better.

How much cheaper is the V6 compared to the V8?

Hey guys I am new here. I am selling my 2002 Mustang GT so I can buy a Lincoln LS. I was wondering what do you guys get for MPG in the V6 and V8 engines on an avg?
15-16 town & 23-24 open X-way, running 75-80.
KS

How much cheaper is the V6 compared to the V8?


If you get a 2000-2002, I wouldn't bother with the V6. If you opt for the 2003-2006 the choice is a little harder. The early V8s had 252 hp/267 ftlp, the V6 210/205. The '03-'06 V6 has 232/220 and the V8 280/286. The LS is a pretty heavy car, pushing 3800 pounds, so the V6 has to work pretty hard to push that mass around. According to Edmunds, there is about a $1500 difference between '03 V6 and V8.

19 mpg. easy on the throttle. 2000 V8

After doing my spark plugs, air filter, fuel filter and coils I have been getting 22.5 mpg on 80% highway driving. Much better from my previous 18.8 mpg before doing the maintenance.

I have a 2000 V8

13-15 in city traffic, 20-23 highway.

2000 v8 17-18 city and 23-24 highway avg~80 I just replaced the $10 fuel filter and noticed a 3 mpg increase in city and highway way worth the $10

I may go with the V8. I just trying to get lower payments and insurance then my GT cause this fall I start college and going into criminal justice.

My car showed me 25.5mpg on the dash display on a trip from atlanta to NYC last November. This was on a stock tune and at over 80mph the majority of the trip. My around town mileage shows about 14.0-14.5 depending on if I actually get on a highway. It's all mainly local driving for me.

20-21 mixed and 25-26 freeway with a 03 V8

04 v6 here. I just got back from a week-long trip to Nashville with a stop off in Memphis for the Beale Street Music Festival (~1200 mi). I kept all receipts for gas and averaged 23.7 (running a steady 75 on the highways). I saw a high of 25.6 on one tank.

My typical average is around 19 city and 23 highway.

BTW as far as insurance goes the LS is much safer than a mustang so your rates should be better... even with the v8.

Once I hit 100k on this LS I plan to get a loaded 06... should have gotten the v8 in the first place.

So ya I may just go with the V8. Since the V6 seems alittle under powered and I plan on putting 20"s on it.

yeah deffenetly go with the V8 .

i get 19-20 mpg city driving with out rippin on it

descent for a V8 i guess

my mpg gauge reads a constant 25-26 with 80% highway driving 01 v8 stock makes me think my gauge might be a little off?? or maybe im just lucky!!

i have a lead foot but use cruise on the highway so i get 16.5 city and 28-31 highway

A big portion of the mpg equation is where you live. Here in Kahleefornya we have so many additives in the gas there isn't much gas left! I notice a bump of at least 2 mpg when I get real gas from out of state. I got real gas in Wyoming while on vacation last year. Doing 85+ I was getting over 27 mpg. Put in some of that ethanol crap in Nebraska and by best at ~80 was ~24 mpg.

A big portion of the mpg equation is where you live. Here in Kahleefornya we have so many additives in the gas there isn't much gas left! I notice a bump of at least 2 mpg when I get real gas from out of state. I got real gas in Wyoming while on vacation last year. Doing 85+ I was getting over 27 mpg. Put in some of that ethanol crap in Nebraska and by best at ~80 was ~24 mpg.


Hows the weather in San Diego now? I left San Diego on Feb 21st from bootcamp and it was 71 that day and when I landed in Kansas it was 17 with snow.

2005 LS V8 Ultimate Factory Specs, 18.0 - 19.0 city / 25.0 - 26.0 highway

City mileage is real world driving, jackrabbit starts, minimal cruising at 50 MPH.

Highway was a trip from Illinois to Texas, cruise control 75 - 80 with occasional 95 MPH to pass or show up the imports.

2000 V8 model
12.7 mpg's in city traffic but get 23-26 on the highway going about 80.
List of mods that effects the gas mileage:
20" wheels
a system in the trunk(1 memphis modular M-1 15" dvc)
KKM intake pipe with filter
weld-in flowmaster 40 series mufflers
flash tuned by the dealership for the mufflers, filter, and wheels

flash tuned by the dealership for the mufflers, filter, and wheels:shifty:

They can do that?

:shifty:

They can do that?

yep, but when I said that they tuned it for the filter thats it not for the intake pipe. They can do simple flash tunes. Now if I would have put a catback then they can't do it but seeing all I have are weld-in mufflers they can. Simple little tweaks they can do nothing major though.

What did they need to tune.? I never ever heard of this. I know they have some flash updates for like the trans and all but I never heard of any dealer doing anything like this except for a SCT dealer/installer.

What did they need to tune.? I never ever heard of this. I know they have some flash updates for like the trans and all but I never heard of any dealer doing anything like this except for a SCT dealer/installer.
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Hows the weather in San Diego now? I left San Diego on Feb 21st from bootcamp and it was 71 that day and when I landed in Kansas it was 17 with snow.

Sunny and ~70º.

http://sat.wrh.noaa.gov/satellite/1km/Sandiego/VIS1SAN.GIF

I live in nebraska where you putting 89 in your car? i live in nebraska and i only put 91+ in my car theres a gas station with 93 but its not cheap and i dono if its worth it

Here's my mpg history (yes i'm weird like that with making charts... :rolleyes: ). v8, mixed use

Sunny and ~70º.

I miss California so much. I evan miss getting yelled at by Drill Instuctors.

Here's my mpg history (yes i'm weird like that with making charts... :rolleyes: ). v8, mixed use

Thats pretty cool. I may have to do that to.

18/23

What did they need to tune.? I never ever heard of this. I know they have some flash updates for like the trans and all but I never heard of any dealer doing anything like this except for a SCT dealer/installer.

Well bring your car to the dealership and they will tell you the same thing I am telling you. My car went to the dealership originally to get a brand new transmission put in it and while it was there I asked them if they could do anything to program the ECU to the list of mods I had including the wheels and all so nothing would damage my new transmission. The dealership has a programmer very similar to the SCT tuner but it is limited unlike the SCT tuner.

17/25 v8 93 octane
syracuse, ny so the weather has been anywhere from 85 to -40

You can run these cars on 91 cant you?

yea but east coast doesn't really sell 91 octane. just 93.

Well bring your car to the dealership and they will tell you the same thing I am telling you. My car went to the dealership originally to get a brand new transmission put in it and while it was there I asked them if they could do anything to program the ECU to the list of mods I had including the wheels and all so nothing would damage my new transmission. The dealership has a programmer very similar to the SCT tuner but it is limited unlike the SCT tuner. The dealer can change the computer to take into account tire size, some gear ratio changes and minor things but cannot do a performance tune beyond flashing the latest total flash for your car. They can also add or subtract daytime running lights (although deleting this option in Canada is illegal).

You can run these cars on 91 cant you?

That is the recommended octane, should be right on the inside of the filler door.

That is the recommended octane, should be right on the inside of the filler door.

What effect can running a higher octane have on the LS?

Well bring your car to the dealership and they will tell you the same thing I am telling you. My car went to the dealership originally to get a brand new transmission put in it and while it was there I asked them if they could do anything to program the ECU to the list of mods I had including the wheels and all so nothing would damage my new transmission. The dealership has a programmer very similar to the SCT tuner but it is limited unlike the SCT tuner.

Well I have to take it to the one you took yours to in that case cause mine and no others do anything related to performance what so ever.

Why would any car need a tune for the exhaust?


Guys tell him not to make me wave my flag again, please!:D

Well I have to take it to the one you took yours to in that case cause mine and no others do anything related to performance what so ever.

Why would any car need a tune for the exhaust?


Guys tell him not to make me wave my flag again, please!:D

Apparently you work on your LS yourself and never have brought it to the dealer but mine goes to the dealer whenever it has a problem. You tune the exhaust because it is more free-flowing. You can wave your flag all you want it doesn't bother me.

If your dealership around where you live cannot do a simple flash tune than I feel sorry for you but around here they can. SORRY

If you are significantly into improving the power/drivability of your LS, you should have an XCAL.Check with ILLS.
KS

Apparently you work on your LS yourself and never have brought it to the dealer but mine goes to the dealer whenever it has a problem. You tune the exhaust because it is more free-flowing. You can wave your flag all you want it doesn't bother me.

If your dealership around where you live cannot do a simple flash tune than I feel sorry for you but around here they can. SORRY

:bsflag:

No single dealer has the ability to flash the damn thing for performance tunes in those of which you state and again I am not the only one telling you this. I never ever heard of a tune for the exhaust for any car especially considering the fact that the LS exhaust be it aftermarket or stock is within the ratio to the amount of HP you will see anyways ( again unless you go for a forced induction app ).

And no, I never did much to my car myself except for maybe oil changes and wheels. Maybe some other minor things as well.

Actually they can flash and change certain things in the car's ecu and the Cadillac dealership has had to do this for me many times. And they could've changed his egr settings in regards to the exhaust tuning he is talking about.

Actually they can flash and change certain things in the car's ecu and the Cadillac dealership has had to do this for me many times. And they could've changed his egr settings in regards to the exhaust tuning he is talking about.

Is this at all in regards to performance. Like I originally stated, I know they can flash for certain things but they do not have capability of doing a true performance tune.

This is what I have gone by according to every Ford Lincoln Mercury dealer in my area so if anyone else that knows more on the LS and flash tuning agrees let me know cause I would love to make it that much more simple. I mean, why would you buy the SCT? Why would every member here invest so much into it if we could just go to the dealer?

When I bought the cts-v whoever owned it before me power programmed it and it messed the car up big time. Stability control would randomly kick on and lock up the brakes on a certain wheel which wasn't very comforting on the highway. I took it to the Cadillac dealership they tried reflashing the ecu numerous times on different occasion back to stock but it never helped. They eventually went into the ecu and physcially changed the settings that the bad power program had messed up which eventually worked. I noticed a lack of power after they had done which I assume if they have the ability to manually change settings in this way back to stock, then they can do the opposite without giving it a full reflash.

Why are you refering to a totaly different car than the LS?

If a dealer messes with the ecu the tune gets deleted and it goes back to factory but they can not program it for performance!

They can change the certain settings that power programming tools like the SCT can do. They usually don't unless his dealer figures that doing so is ok even though it can lead to major trouble for them. They aren't limited to just changing settings to account for tire size and new gear ratios and daytime running lamps, they can change many more settings than just that but again, usually don't since it is not very smart of them and can put a lot of liability on them.

01 5 speed V6

13 in the city.
20-25 on the highway.

use to get 18-20 in the city, something has changed.

I get around 20 around town and 27 highway.

I'm not too sure about city mileage, but i would venture in the 14 to 15 mpg range. Highway is pretty decent at 26 to 28 mpg's. 2000 LS V8 with 132K and in need of maintenance.

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No single dealer has the ability to flash the damn thing for performance tunes in those of which you state and again I am not the only one telling you this. I never ever heard of a tune for the exhaust for any car especially considering the fact that the LS exhaust be it aftermarket or stock is within the ratio to the amount of HP you will see anyways ( again unless you go for a forced induction app ).

And no, I never did much to my car myself except for maybe oil changes and wheels. Maybe some other minor things as well.

You know you can take that flag and shove it up your A$$ because I have been reading alot of your other posts and you seem to get proven wrong all the time. So you are saying that there is no need to EVER tune a car for exhaust unless it has forced induction? Damn dude you must ride it some slow a$$ street cars and you don't know what you are talking about....thanks glanga for backin me up

Is this at all in regards to performance. Like I originally stated, I know they can flash for certain things but they do not have capability of doing a true performance tune.

This is what I have gone by according to every Ford Lincoln Mercury dealer in my area so if anyone else that knows more on the LS and flash tuning agrees let me know cause I would love to make it that much more simple. I mean, why would you buy the SCT? Why would every member here invest so much into it if we could just go to the dealer?

Hey retard I never said that they did an awesome tune on it like a real performance shop would. They didn't adjust the air/fuel or anything like that. They simply put in that I had a K&N filter and some 40 series mufflers.

I'm not saying they didn't do this, they possibly could have... but do you know exactly what they did to adjust for this?
The only thing I can think of adjusting for putting on a K&N is the air/fuel but the MAF would do that on it's own. And for the exhaust to adjust the EGR level or turn it off completely.

A friend also told me this, if it is so bad to put 87 in the car, then why wouldn't it void the warranty?

You know you can take that flag and shove it up your A$$ because I have been reading alot of your other posts and you seem to get proven wrong all the time. So you are saying that there is no need to EVER tune a car for exhaust unless it has forced induction? Damn dude you must ride it some slow a$$ street cars and you don't know what you are talking about....thanks glanga for backin me up

I thought you said it wouldn't bother you?


Im not saying any cars exhaust Im saying our car retard. I'm not the retard bsing about having some performance tune like you just did.

You really just dont know what the hell you are saying do you? I was proven wrong what like once cause I made a misstae going way back? Get off it and grow up little boy.

A friend also told me this, if it is so bad to put 87 in the car, then why wouldn't it void the warranty?



Trust me if they had a way to find out that it was 87 that blew something they would not honer the warranty.

Hey retard I never said that they did an awesome tune on it like a real performance shop would. They didn't adjust the air/fuel or anything like that. They simply put in that I had a K&N filter and some 40 series mufflers.

Another thing retard, do you realize you just went way off for no reason! I agree they may have done a flash for some simple things but its not a true performance tune!!!!!


And since when the hel do we need to flash it for a air filter?

You really don't think there aren't ways of telling what octane gas was put in? The car's computer itself should know since it has to adjust for it.

Isn't there a thread about this already. :) .

I am positive that as long as they have an ability to test it they would say you are out of luck. I am dead positive.

You find me one instance of a dealership telling a customer their warranty is void for putting in 87 octane instead of 91+. Maybe that would happen if some idiot put diesel in their car but I personally have never heard of that happening. And no, it's not that hard to tell if 87 was put in. When it comes to replacing a few thousand dollar engine I don't think it'd hurt to run a simple test on the fuel used. And like I said, even the car itself knows what kind of gas is being put into it so I'm sure the dealer can easily tell too if they wanted to.

When my dealership did my coils they asked me if I use premium gas. I told them yes, they then told me that if I had been using lower grade octane and it had caused the damage ( this was before they knew it was coils ) they would not honer the warranty. It may have just been a threat and something they couldnt hold up to but it is what they told me.

Thats all I am saying.

Another thing retard, do you realize you just went way off for no reason! I agree they may have done a flash for some simple things but its not a true performance tune!!!!!


And since when the hel do we need to flash it for a air filter?

Ok grandpa..I know you are getting old and your vision isn't like it use to be but I said that my car origially went to the dealership to get a new transmission put in it so when they were going to do the flash tune they asked me if I had any aftermarket parts on the car. Did I break it down enough for you grandpa? I also recall glanga proving you wrong on a topic like two days ago....so that is two in like two days....I would say you are not creditable...sorry I guess technology has surpassed your old a$$

Lsvipdemon

SlickLs has the bicycle mirrors?

Not him

2003 LS v8

25 mpg one the highway / 21 mpg on average with some city driving mixed in.

2000 LS v8

my average is about 16 city / 27 freeway

however, occasionally ive been able to get spectacular gas mileage, this pic is from an about 15 mile stretch on M43 west of Lansing, no traffic, cruise set on 55.

Thats pretty damn good Eric

That ain't nothing! I can get 99.9 coasting downhill!

That ain't nothing! I can get 99.9 coasting downhill!

yeah, yeah, yeah, this particular stretch is dead flat, which is why i chose it to test how good i could get. I don't know which direction the wind was blowing but i remember it wasn't significantly gusty.

on the other hand, ive gotten 12-14 in city driving through east lansing in the summer with the a/c on, so its all relative.

i was driving behind a semi for 50 miles right after my battery cable was off and the ecu was flashed and the car thought i was getting crazy gas mileage toook awhile for it to fix its self but it was nice to pretend i was going to get 570 miles to a talk

My car showed me 25.5mpg on the dash display on a trip from atlanta to NYC last November. This was on a stock tune and at over 80mph the majority of the trip. My around town mileage shows about 14.0-14.5 depending on if I actually get on a highway. It's all mainly local driving for me.

Just took a 260 mile trip from Maryland to near Raleigh NC. No traffic and relatively flat land the entire route. I weigh about 185, one passenger weighing about 110, and another weighing about 120. Approx 40 lbs of luggage. 18 inch afternarket wheels with proper sized tires. PSI at 29psi all around. 92 Octane premium. 5w-30 synthetic, stock OEM air filter with about 5k miles on it, rest of car 100% stock. Set cruise at indicated 68mph and 2krpm. (Avic D3 showed the speed to be 64.5mph..so not sure which one is more accurate, especially since VSS not connected on AVIC) Had a consistent 28.2mpg reading over the course of about 100 miles. Changed to a set 82mph and approx 2500rpm, and then hit "reset" on the MPG setting. Average about 25.7mpg over about 75 miles. In city, I can squeak out 16.9 if Im real light with the gas pedal. Ie keeping rpms at 2k or less as much as possible.

i have an 04 v-8 and average 18.2 to 20 mpg in town. hitting every stoplight, and bad traffic, I tend to pull about 24 AVG at 80mph on the interstate and 26 to 29 mpg at 60 mph on hiway. I tend to drive like a grandpa because 91+ is now at 4.00 per gallon and i dont feel the need to impress myself at every stop. From what i here the v-6 is not worth the extra 1 mpg. but its your choice. hope this helps