Anyone smoked a Charger before????

Uh, which model?

2006 or 2007 dnt know maybe a V6 or V8... Sum guy where i live wants to race later on....

If it's the hemi, you might want to install some spray. I've never raced one, though.

What does a charger weigh? The v6 puts out about 250 hp/250 lb ft of torque. the 5.7 hemi? 340hp/390 lbft.

Is not a hemi thats 4 sure....

are you running stock? with standard mods on a gen 1, you should be fine.

2000 V8 flowmasters with KNN intake... Im gonna try 2 get video of it...

If its the V-8, you have not a chance in hell.

I Had A Run In With A Srt-8 With A Few Bolt-Ons...And Lets Just Say I Had To Spray Alittle Just to Catch Back Up...:rolleyes: ...DAM HEMI's:D

Like i said is not a hemi i know how those machines look like... but i dnt know if is a v8 if it is i know is all stock. He just got it an wants 2 show off...

O...Well In That Case You Have Nothing To Worry About...The V6 Models Are SLLLOOOWW...You Should Be Able To Hurt His Feelings Pretty Easily ;)

Pretty sure they only come with either the v6 or the two diff hemis. So if its not a hemi then its the 6.

They weigh somewhere upwards of 4000lbs. I know for sure the new Challenger weighs 4180lbs, I would think the Charger would be more.

Like i said is not a hemi i know how those machines look like... but i dnt know if is a v8 if it is i know is all stock. He just got it an wants 2 show off...

Its either a V-6 or a Hemi.

^ +1 the only v8 option was the hemi

the only hemi it would've came with was the 5.7L. I don't think the 6.1L was an option until 2008

Curb weight is 4031 lbs. 340 HP, 390 tq. Your LS has no chance.

I watched a Charger with the 5.7 Hemi pull 13.6 at New England Dragway last week. I could see D/R's but I don't think he was running anything exotic, looked pretty stock under the hood and he claimed it was not chipped or tuned....yet.

I think you can count the pipes on those. 1 pipe v-6 2 pipe v-8. I have heard after the get go those things are dogs.

I think you can count the pipes on those. 1 pipe v-6 2 pipe v-8. I have heard after the get go those things are dogs.

Yes. And no.

Most people don't know the difference between the HEMIs, well fact is they aren't HEMIs but thats what they call them.

I have yet to see a 5.7 HEMI run better than 14.4 at the track and more common to see them running 14.5-14.7s, bad driver as bad as 15.0. Basic bolt ons near stock of course.

SRT8 is the real deal and will run easy deep 13s. There is 80ish HP between the 2 HEMIs, big difference. I believe the original HEMI to be a big disappointment power wise and therefore the 6.1 followed fast. The car is very heavy.

If its a V-6 and he want to race...??????????? thats just stupid.

I ran a HEMI wagon and a HEMI sedan in the past couple of weeks since I put my LSD in and I was surprised that I was able to slightly outrun both. Not the SRT-8 versions, I wouldnt stand a chance against one unless it was a bad driver.

i have a 00 ls v8 and i raced my freinds r/t charger v8 and i blew him out and im still running stock he beat me in take off but i had it in the long run

they are good from a dig, and slow on the topend.

i have a 00 ls v8 and i raced my freinds r/t charger v8 and i blew him out and im still running stock he beat me in take off but i had it in the long run

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: Yeah, that happened . . . if he pulled a couple spark plug wires maybe. I'm curious, how many people here have actually driven a Charger R/T and how many have "heard things" about them?

Some of us are in reality.

The 5.7 HEMI isn't that great. Overated. I have yet to see one run that great at the track...stock or near. I'm ther alot.

That said unless your runnin in the best of the LS class times it will beat you.............just not as bad as they think.

^ +1 the only v8 option was the hemi

the only hemi it would've came with was the 5.7L. I don't think the 6.1L was an option until 2008

The 6.1L is the SRT-8 engine started in 2005.
Quote from allpar.com
The Hemi design combustion chamber is one of the poorest designs for emissions - why do you think it took so long to get it into production? It almost did not make emissions test requirements even with the modifications. ... Today's Hemi is that (a "Hemi") in name only. [Editor's note: Bob is referring to the head design. It is not a true hemispherical head, but looks vaguely like a hemispherical head with parts filled in.]
I drove the V6 its sooo slow. I wanted a 300 but only SRT package. I wouldnt want the 5.7. For the amount of power, its not worth the poor gas mileage. And one complaint I heard the most from 5.7 owners was the MDS, there is bad throtle response when flooring it on the roll. The computer cant react fast enough to go from firing 4 cyl. to all cyl.

True that. The V6 is SLOOOW!!!! Last nite we head down to sum factory outlet. Raced 3 times, first 2 races started on even line, 3rd race which i have the video he wanted a one car head start so he got it. And so well the video Says it all.... He was upset now he feels he needs a V8.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_An9xdzb1W8

Srry bout the video quality it was a cell phone. I got another video from another cell phone that was taken from the finish line. But im having problems converting the 3gp 2 mpeg. But ill have it sooon.

Nice, gj on the kill.

If its the V-8, you have not a chance in hell.

I believe some came with the 4.7, and you should do well against that engine.
I have seen one in the flesh, so I know they put that engine in the Charger.
They weight at about 4150#

I believe some came with the 4.7, and you should do well against that engine.
I have seen one in the flesh, so I know they put that engine in the Charger.
They weight at about 4150#

This should answer the question of engine availability.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dodge_Charger_%28LX%29

Even the 5.7 is not that great in my opinion.

I ran one once when I had 3 people in the car. He got the jump on me, but I passed easily a little ways up the road. I don't know if it was a 6 or an 8. I have an 02 LS8 W/KKM and a tune from Torrie.

I raced my friend in his 87 Iroc-Z28...which has the V8 5.7 engine in it...and took him not once but twice...sweat. He doesn't want to race me anymore.

This is an interesting thread, as most know I'm looking for something else and pretty much decided on an R/T as I need something a little bigger and unfortunately too upside down on the loan for the LS that I can't swing an SRT-8 (which run in the 12s, BTW). From what I've read on a few Charger forums, there are numerous R/Ts in the mid 13s with the same 3 mods that we have for the LS - and that's with higher/numerically lower gearing out back compared to the LS. Then there's the options out there for the 5.7 of headers, heads, cams...stuff us LS owners can only dream about.

This is an interesting thread, as most know I'm looking for something else and pretty much decided on an R/T as I need something a little bigger and unfortunately too upside down on the loan for the LS that I can't swing an SRT-8 (which run in the 12s, BTW). From what I've read on a few Charger forums, there are numerous R/Ts in the mid 13s with the same 3 mods that we have for the LS - and that's with higher/numerically lower gearing out back compared to the LS. Then there's the options out there for the 5.7 of headers, heads, cams...stuff us LS owners can only dream about.

Mean Green R/T at the track last fall when I was there. He ran 3 14.7s, appeared to be driving it decent. Was completely stock. I ran 14.4s all night with 1 14.5. Was trying to get lined up with him but didn't. Same night a SRT8 was there with intake and a few other minor things, said his best was 13.2, missed his time so not sure what he ran there. I know what they can do but near stock the 5.7 isn't to crazy, its a heavy car, 6.1 is much quicker.

I'm just saying if my car was a bright bold 70s hot rod color with flat black strips and R/T badging I would be disappointed to run high 14s.

This should answer the question of engine availability.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dodge_Charger_%28LX%29

Even the 5.7 is not that great in my opinion.

How about that...The car I saw, and I talked to the officer, had an 07 charger, with the 4.7L v8.
Maybe a police option only???

A good driver can coax low 14s out an R/T. I agree the Hemi isn't all the impressive. I've never driven a Charger but my girlfriends Ram has a Hemi.

About the Ram hemi. My dad picked up an 07 ram with the hemi. You guys think a gen 1 V8 with resonator back 2.25" pipe/magnaflow mufflers and a modified airbox (bottom cut out) would stand a chance?

300M at NED runs pretty well. I'd confidently throw my 01 V8 against it though! Esp if I had done anything to it.

That being said the 300M is NOT the same car. general rule of thumb I found is if they want to show off, they dont have anything special.... if they have something special, they already know they'll stomp you!

Nice kill vid BTW

About the Ram hemi. My dad picked up an 07 ram with the hemi. You guys think a gen 1 V8 with resonator back 2.25" pipe/magnaflow mufflers and a modified airbox (bottom cut out) would stand a chance?

It will definitely take my stock Mark VIII of the line if your careful. My girls is an open rear(I don't know what gear) so it will spin easily if your not. I think they run low 15s stock though. It's got a couple hundred lbs on the Charger

This is an interesting thread, as most know I'm looking for something else and pretty much decided on an R/T as I need something a little bigger and unfortunately too upside down on the loan for the LS that I can't swing an SRT-8 (which run in the 12s, BTW). From what I've read on a few Charger forums, there are numerous R/Ts in the mid 13s with the same 3 mods that we have for the LS - and that's with higher/numerically lower gearing out back compared to the LS. Then there's the options out there for the 5.7 of headers, heads, cams...stuff us LS owners can only dream about.

What about a G8?

About the Ram hemi. My dad picked up an 07 ram with the hemi. You guys think a gen 1 V8 with resonator back 2.25" pipe/magnaflow mufflers and a modified airbox (bottom cut out) would stand a chance?

Depends on the body style and all.

His truck is a 4 door short bed 1500 (1/2 ton). Is that what you meant by body style and all?

His truck is a 4 door short bed 1500 (1/2 ton). Is that what you meant by body style and all?

Yeah... It would probably be close but I think the LS would win/tie depending on generation.

What about a G8?

Don't like the looks of it.

Ok guys, Dodge offers 4 engines for the Charger.
Base model 2.7L V6
High output 3.5L V6
R/T Hemi 5.7L V8
SRT-8 Hemi 6.1L V8

My 05 LS V8 will take any factory stock Charger or Magnum with the 2.7L and 3.5L. Off the line with Advancetrac off, takes factory 5.7L but the hemi will walk you within a 1/4 mile. Only the Police R/T Hemi 5.7L and SRT-8 Chargers will smoke a LS start to finish. The Police pkg allows you to deactivate the ESC completely. This provides the off the line launch that will embarass an LS. The ESC really bogs the Hemi and applies alot of brake,thus hampering launch.

Ok guys, Dodge offers 4 engines for the Charger.
Base model 2.7L V6
High output 3.5L V6
R/T Hemi 5.7L V8
SRT-8 Hemi 6.1L V8

My 05 LS V8 will take any factory stock Charger or Magnum with the 2.7L and 3.5L. Off the line with Advancetrac off, takes factory 5.7L but the hemi will walk you within a 1/4 mile. Only the Police R/T Hemi 5.7L and SRT-8 Chargers will smoke a LS start to finish. The Police pkg allows you to deactivate the ESC completely. This provides the off the line launch that will embarass an LS. The ESC really bogs the Hemi and applies alot of brake,thus hampering launch.

well i got a 2001 v8 Ls and my buddy has a 300c witha hemi havent raced him yet but he talks his shiiit n wants to race me i been in the car when he raced a mach 8 and a 5.0 an severel other cars smoked them all, this car really does pull idk do you think i have a chance? my car has been parked for a lil while due to frigin insurence isues but should be back on road shortly an hopefully with sum new mods

I cant see a 300c beating a mach 8 or a 5.0 ( I may be wrong ) but if it did then it will kill your car.

Stock 5.0s are slow.

What is a Mach 8 :confused: Or do you mean a Mark VIII?

Probably Mark VIII - they talk funny up there :D

Oops!

But ahh can a LS really take a 5.0? I dont really think so.

I cant see a 300c beating a mach 8 or a 5.0 ( I may be wrong ) but if it did then it will kill your car.

300C with the hemi will take you out the dig and you'll close down distance the quarter but the Hemi will still take you out. if i'm not mistaken the 5.7 runs around 14 flat stock. i'm a big fan of the 300c... got to drive one with the 5.7 a few times its got a lot of get up and go.
and a stock 5.0 would be a tight run. 5.0s get fast because they have all the aftermarket support in the worllllllld

Oops!

But ahh can a LS really take a 5.0? I dont really think so.

A 5.0 what? You do realize that an early nineties Mustang GT 5.0 is only 205 Hp right? And that the Lincoln Mark VII also had the 5.0.

Man, if you can't beat those with a V8 LS (stock for stock) then its time to replace your coils and do a tune up! Lol.

For some stupid reason I was thinking of the Mustang Machs and like a dummy I didn't even catch up on the 8 part.


lol, I didn't know the coil thing was such a problem till I came here but after seeing so much about it I realized it is. I had the replaced and just thought it was a fluke.

My car runs great! I'm not a Mustang fan but I thought the 5.0 had a bit more than that seeing on how everyone around here is all about them, that and the power to weight ratio against the LS ( I know the LS is only around 4,000 lb's ) along with the fact of not realizing it had such low HP.

Yeah I also know it has more aftermarket support than any car in the world.


I rephrase that to I didn't really think so. My mistake.

A 5.0 what? You do realize that an early nineties Mustang GT 5.0 is only 205 Hp right? And that the Lincoln Mark VII also had the 5.0.

225hp for the 87 and up Mustang
225hp for the 88 and up Mark VII

Not a huge difference, but just wanted to clear that up.

225hp for the 87 and up Mustang
225hp for the 88 and up Mark VII

Not a huge difference, but just wanted to clear that up.

I know what you are saying there NYC! Different cars had different versions of the 5.0 But, didn't they end up re-rating down to 205hp for the Mustang GT? Thats what i have read here and there. (on the net and in my car books) When i said 205 HP, i was referring specifically to the early nineties GT.

I'm pretty sure that was 215 for the 94-95 year? I forget, it's been a while lol

This is the one i was referring to:

http://www.mustanggt.org/93gt.htm

Yes, they made some minor changes to it, but more importantly, they changed the way they rated engines. That would mean (in my eyes anyway) that the earlier 225HP engines aren't really what they claim to be. (maybe that 215 figure you just came up with is what the 225s would be under the newer rating system)

96-98 mustang GT ran mid 15s.... 01 LS with 20's runs 15.4 all day. You should be able to pull a 5.0 in anything so long as its still stock. I raced a 300M (pretty sure only the Ms had hemis) and walked him like nobody's business on the high way. from a dig, he might have you but I'm quickly learning the LS is second to very few from a highway roll!

300M was a 3.5 V6

300C has the Hemi

A problem I had in the past was wheel spin off the line and I got smoked by a lot of different slower cars off the line.

Once I put the LSD and 285 wide tires on my car, I can just jump on the gas pedal and take off the line no matter what and get traction and take out cars I wasnt able to beat before. Its all in the driver and small mods you can make.

300M was a 3.5 V6

300C has the Hemi

Yeah that had me confused.

Yo people i got the part 2 video i was talking about last week... Really no other words to explain...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L-MsL9kWtBE

haha, nice one!

Good job. I'm not worried about some of those chargers but I also just don't find any purpose in racing with a LS.

The strip is cool, but just not a street racer. I know sounds funny why one but not the other but hey some people just have opinions:) .

was that 2 ufo's racing?

Wassup guys.. I just came across this topic and figured i would add a little input since i do own a 300c with the 5.7.
-I remember someone saying something about the MDS being slow to kick over .. personally i can't tell when it is kicking over it is as smooth as can be.
-The V6 3.5 models are really slow and an LS will easily take one out very easily as shown by that video.. even more so the 2.7.
-The stock 5.7 300c's are decent but not the fastest thing ever.. definitely night and day compared to my 2000 LS in stock form. As for my car, i ran a 9.2 in the 1/8 with an intake only when i first got my car. That would equate to approximately 14.3 on the 1/4 which is ok. I then tuned it and went from the previous 9.2 to an 8.72 on the 1/8th which would equate to approximately a 13.5. All this was done on stock tires with decent traction. I know i have at least an 8.5 in the car if i get drag radials since i am trapping at 83 mph on the 1/8. Personally i don't think that is too bad for a 4200 lb family car. 12's are coming real soon all motor. One big problem most 300c owners have is the launch. I pretty much have to gradually ease into the throttle if the track isn't prepped fully and my best 60' on street tires is a 2.032.

I would agree that the 5.7 is not the fastest car on the road (especially compared to the srt8) but there isn't very much that would blow you away on the street running low 13`s so it keeps me happy. check my video out. http://s234.photobucket.com/albums/ee205/06_300_c/?action=view&current=300CMOVIE.flv

JACE (sorry for the long post)