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ignition coils will not fit into harness, somebody please help me!!!

mscott1979
February 17th, 2008, 10:36 AM
I ordered a whole set of brand new ignition coils form world auto parts off of ebay. Got the coils very promptly, took the old coils out and when i attempted to slide the new coils they did not fit, hmmmm thought maybe it was just me so i got another one out of the box they sent me and tried again and none of the new ones will fit into my factory harnesses. So i got one of the ones that i was trying to replaced and compared it to the new ones side by sidat, physically no difference what so ever, identical, but when I looked at the metal connecting prongs that make the electrical connection inside the wiring harness come to find out that the ones that i ordered are like 1mm thicker than the oem ones. How is that so? does anybody else have this problem or know what these coils are for? Plz somebody help ASAP

NYC LS8
February 17th, 2008, 11:17 AM
The coils are different between V6 and V8 cars. Are you sure you got the right ones?

mscott1979
February 19th, 2008, 08:36 PM
prolly got the v6 ones, not sure are the v6 coils similar to the v8 ones as far as size and shape?

rickztahone
February 20th, 2008, 01:48 AM
if this was indeed the problem you would think they might demonstrate some concern as to why your purchasing 8 coils rather than the 6

thethirdeye88
February 20th, 2008, 01:57 AM
i bought mine ad advanced...no problem what so ever...

eastcoastLS
February 20th, 2008, 07:54 AM
Maybe they are for a different engine? Anyone know if the Gen2 coils are the same as the Gen1's? Or maybe they are for the V6? Take a pic and post it up..

97stscaddy
February 20th, 2008, 11:48 AM
if this was indeed the problem you would think they might demonstrate some concern as to why your purchasing 8 coils rather than the 6

They wouldn't give a damn they're making a sale. Chances are they don't know there are two different types anyway.

Check back on the page you bought them from and look to see if there is any mention of the coils being specifically for a V6 or V8.

mrzeee
February 20th, 2008, 11:54 AM
The v-6 coil has the mounting boss for the screw on the opposit side (6 o;clock) of the plugin and has a short boot. the V-8 mounting boss is at 1 o'clock to the 12 o'clock connector. Both connectors are the same.

max

I ordered a whole set of brand new ignition coils form world auto parts off of ebay. Got the coils very promptly, took the old coils out and when i attempted to slide the new coils they did not fit, hmmmm thought maybe it was just me so i got another one out of the box they sent me and tried again and none of the new ones will fit into my factory harnesses. So i got one of the ones that i was trying to replaced and compared it to the new ones side by sidat, physically no difference what so ever, identical, but when I looked at the metal connecting prongs that make the electrical connection inside the wiring harness come to find out that the ones that i ordered are like 1mm thicker than the oem ones. How is that so? does anybody else have this problem or know what these coils are for? Plz somebody help ASAP

mscott1979
March 2nd, 2008, 12:48 PM
no checked into it and the v6 coils are totally different from v8 ones mine were for a v8 they just would not fit into the harnesses.......maybe thats what i get for not buying a genuine motorcraft replacement part

97stscaddy
March 2nd, 2008, 01:30 PM
That's Ebay for you. Send them bitches back.

shorn
March 2nd, 2008, 02:57 PM
I went throught the same thing get the $150.00 ones and they work just fine. get your money back!!!

Blip01
March 16th, 2008, 03:50 PM
I just got a set of the same coils off eBay, I neglected to search here first. The connectors on mine are also to big.:confused:

Snowseeker
March 16th, 2008, 08:15 PM
So I was looking for coils as well on ebay and came across these same ones but came here to ask how they worked first, haha.

here is the link, and has anyone had any good luck with them plugging in and working?


http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/NEW-FORD-IGNITION-COIL-2000-2006-LINCOLN-LS-V8-DG515-Q8_W0QQitemZ160217990208QQihZ006QQcategoryZ33689QQ ssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Snowseeker
March 16th, 2008, 08:16 PM
There are these too:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/NEW-FORD-IGNITION-COIL-2000-2006-LINCOLN-LS-V8-DG515_W0QQitemZ150224666060QQihZ005QQcategoryZ3368 9QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Blip01
March 16th, 2008, 08:57 PM
So I was looking for coils as well on ebay and came across these same ones but came here to ask how they worked first, haha.

here is the link, and has anyone had any good luck with them plugging in and working?


http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/NEW-FORD-IGNITION-COIL-2000-2006-LINCOLN-LS-V8-DG515-Q8_W0QQitemZ160217990208QQihZ006QQcategoryZ33689QQ ssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Nope, those are the exact ones I purchased, from world-autoparts. The 2 prongs the connector snaps into are wider than the ones on the original coils. The connector will not snap into those coils, at least on my car.

2001, 3.9l, VIN code "A"(like they mention in their auction).:confused:

PGA2B
March 17th, 2008, 09:44 AM
There are these too:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/NEW-FORD-IGNITION-COIL-2000-2006-LINCOLN-LS-V8-DG515_W0QQitemZ150224666060QQihZ005QQcategoryZ3368 9QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

I just put a set of those on a couple of weeks ago and they worked fine. Plugged in just like the factory and worked good. No more misfires or stumbling. I had 5 bad factory coils:( . She runs like a champ now.

Before I get flamed for NOT buying Motorcraft......Save it, I don't care. If they fail then they fail. I bought them and put them in, not you.

Blip01
March 17th, 2008, 10:27 AM
I just put a set of those on a couple of weeks ago and they worked fine. Plugged in just like the factory and worked good. No more misfires or stumbling. I had 5 bad factory coils:( . She runs like a champ now.

Before I get flamed for NOT buying Motorcraft......Save it, I don't care. If they fail then they fail. I bought them and put them in, not you.

Any chance you could post a pic of the 2 prongs the connector plugs into on one of your old coils?

Blip01
March 17th, 2008, 04:05 PM
I figured out what the issue is with these coils. There is a "ridge" for lack of a better word where the connector plugs in that prevents these from working with my car. Out of the set of 8 I received I found 3 that will work, but the rest I cannot plug in the connector. So the wider prongs was not the issue.

The old coil is on the left, the new one with the "ridge" is on the right. The ridge is the thin plastic wall running around where the 2 metal prongs are.

http://picsorban.com/upload/coils.jpg

I was contacted by world-autoparts customer service dept. and they seem willing to exchange or refund no problem, so I'm going to see if I can make sure I get 5 more that do not have that "ridge" in them.

If you order from someone on eBay you may want to try to confirm whether you're getting the right ones or not first.

PGA2B
March 17th, 2008, 05:59 PM
I remember a post not too long ago about this very thing. I remember because I made sure the ones I got did not have the ridge. I thought there was a disclaimer in the other ebay auction about that?

Blip01
March 17th, 2008, 07:53 PM
I remember a post not too long ago about this very thing. I remember because I made sure the ones I got did not have the ridge. I thought there was a disclaimer in the other ebay auction about that?

Yeah, the one auction has the "ridge" disclaimer, unfortunately the auction I won did not mention the evil "ridge".

Blip01
March 17th, 2008, 10:28 PM
Also, I installed the 3 good ones today and man my car runs so much better now.

Snowseeker
March 18th, 2008, 12:03 PM
This is turning into a great thread now! Very good information here.

So people have having good luck with the cheaper coils than besides the plastic ridge?

Anyone have a good amount of miles on the cheaper coils yet?

PGA2B
March 18th, 2008, 12:36 PM
I only have about 1,000 miles so far. So far, So good.

brendanLS
March 18th, 2008, 03:16 PM
There are these too:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/NEW-FORD-IGNITION-COIL-2000-2006-LINCOLN-LS-V8-DG515_W0QQitemZ150224666060QQihZ005QQcategoryZ3368 9QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem


These are the ones I put in over the weekend. She runs like a champ now. Best of luck

ap1975
March 24th, 2008, 06:19 AM
Great thread....so I'm getting ready to change mine. I'm at work now and can't get to the old ones, so for an '01 V8 do I need the "ridge" or "ridgeless"? Thanks.

steagle
March 24th, 2008, 09:50 AM
add another one to the fray... have the same issue and need to swap coils asap. how did you guys handle the source of the problem though, i.e. the valve cover gasket. did you replace yourselves, if so what kind of difficulty/time was involved? also what is the part # for the black gasket that doesn't have the leaking problem?

steagle
March 25th, 2008, 01:08 PM
bump!

LS8
March 25th, 2008, 01:56 PM
My 00 LS V8 uses the coil pack that has the ridge on it.

Did my vc gaskets last Saturday, PITA! Wasn't too hard just time consuming, some of the bolts were just so hard to get to, swivel-head extension FTW!

union807trucker
April 6th, 2008, 11:34 AM
where can i find the coils for a 2000 lincoln ls ?????

eastcoastLS
April 6th, 2008, 12:08 PM
where can i find the coils for a 2000 lincoln ls ?????
http://fivestarford.com/Department-Parts.aspx
scroll down, call the number listed under "Max Zuckerberg".
Mention you are a member on Lincolnvscadillac.com
or email him at parts@fivestarford.com

lseguy
April 14th, 2008, 12:49 PM
Im in need of coils, and have a couple of questions:
Is there ANY WAY to determine if I have ridged or ridgeless coils simply via my Vin? In other words, if I call (as an example) Torrie from FPN or any of the other OEM vendors here, how do they know which coils to ship me for my 2002 V8 LSE?

mrzeee
April 14th, 2008, 01:42 PM
we research the parts in a catalog that is for your car. If there is more than one option then we will ask for a vin number or build date. Aftermarket has its catalog set up with more universal parts for most vehicles but still fit yours, so ours are exact fit. ours would not include the other vehicles. Yours are the 2W4Z-12029-BD (DG515) and have NO ridges. This is the only choice for your vehicle through ford.
max

lseguy
April 14th, 2008, 01:50 PM
Thank you VERY much.

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