This week i kinda got talked into racing a 1994 mark 8 at a 1/8mile dragstrip on friday. His car has never been to the track but he does have 3.73 gears, intake, and full exhaust. this race is for 50 dollars so im not sure if i should back out or what. I am not sure how good or not so good these cars run with these mods, so any insight will be helpful.

He would more than likely beat you without the mods.

Yep especially in the 1/8th mile...

What mods do you have? Is your car a gen 1 or 2? V8? which gears?

1/8th mile you have a good chance. The Mark is stronger for the longer race. Your posted 9.37 time is good and without his 3.73s you'd likely win. It will be close IMO.

My LS kills my MarkVIII in the short game.

You guys didn't address the biggest factor in determining who will likely win this race....Driver experience..

If he has never had his car at the track then I say your driving experience + mods wins over his mods alone. Has he himself ever been to the track and raced any other vehicle??? If not then it is a guarantee that you will win. He will likely overpower it and spin the tires on the launch which will kill his 60' time and not give him a good start to a solid 1/8th run. Once he learns how to properly launch it then it will be a little different of a story. Should make for a good race.

1/8th mile you have a good chance. The Mark is stronger for the longer race. Your posted 9.37 time is good and without his 3.73s you'd likely win. It will be close IMO.

My LS kills my MarkVIII in the short game.


Interesting. I would have thought the Mark would have a better hole shot with the gears. My bet would have been on the LS over a longer distance...

my last time was a 9.37 but i have done a few things since then so i should be a tenth or so quicker. he also doesn't have alot of seat time in this car , but he does join me when i go to the track each weekend for test a tune, so he is famalier with a dragstrip. and he is on stock wheels and tires so im sure traction may be an issue.

Interesting. I would have thought the Mark would have a better hole shot with the gears. My bet would have been on the LS over a longer distance...

3.73 vs. 3.58 not a big difference.

5speed auto vs. 4speed auto bigger difference. The LS has the the advantage with gearing.

Being a Mark VIII owner my self, I'll go with the Mark,;) Not because I know he will win. Remember when you race, The LS is the younger little brother, so if you see your self getting ahead, :shifty: Back off ,out of respect and let him win! Whats $50.00 among family!!:shifty: :D

My money's on the Mark. :eek:

Yup. I say the Mark as well.

^ ya, but go ls!

let us know what happens...

Hey pwr2killayak
wanted to get a better look at your car
here's a link to some free software that cleans up pics that are too dark

http://www.photo-freeware.net/free-digital-camera-enhancer.php

This is what it looks like after

Im now getting kinda worried about losing my 50 dollars. i may end up getting alittle more aggressive with my tune, and find some racn gas :shifty: . does anyone else have any past experiences with the marks.??

I owned a '95. They're gutless down low (which the gears he put in would help some....a higher stall converter would help much more) and pull like a freight train up top. It might actually be closer since it's only an 1/8th mile track and come down to the drivers.

Im now getting kinda worried about losing my 50 dollars. i may end up getting alittle more aggressive with my tune, and find some racn gas :shifty: . does anyone else have any past experiences with the marks.??

I have both.

I think people are not taking the fact that we are talking just a 1/8th mile sprint here. The 2 cars with the same 1/4 mile time would likely have the LS out in front at the 1/8th mile mark.

How about this...Your 9.37 time would be a solid 14.4 1/4 mile time for your LS. I've ran my LS 130-150(never counted) times down the 1/4 to know this accurately. I've ran 9.3s several times in the 1/8 and all ended with 14.4 1/4s. Your 60' could easily be improved to hit the top of a 9.2 1/8th and maybe a 14.3 1/4. My best times are done with low 2.1 60's.

A MarkVIII with said mods runs similar from what I've seen in the 1/4, but I bet with not as good a 1/8th mile time.

Skip the race gas. Loose the trunk weight, 1/4 tank of 93, cool the car, and practice your launch.

This race will be one with the best 60' IMO.

I owned a '95. They're gutless down low (which the gears he put in would help some....a higher stall converter would help much more) and pull like a freight train up top. It might actually be closer since it's only an 1/8th mile track and come down to the drivers.

Exactly. Gen1 LSes have throttle cables still.:)

my last time was a 9.37 but i have done a few things since then so i should be a tenth or so quicker. he also doesn't have alot of seat time in this car , but he does join me when i go to the track each weekend for test a tune, so he is famalier with a dragstrip. and he is on stock wheels and tires so im sure traction may be an issue.



It sounds like this guy will not know how to drive his car at the strip. Observing other people racing at the strip and actually doing it are two totally different things. I still think you will likely take him due to your mods making the cars themselves pretty even; and more importantly your seat time. Just make sure you run him on his first one or two run at the track that night.


Do not be worried about allot of these other people posting here saying the Mark will win as they likely do not have much drag racing experience. It is not a guarantee you will win but based upon how you describe the guy I see a pretty high likelihood of it. I have many years experience with this stuff and know that the driver counts for one heck of allot in a race. I have seen MUCH faster cars get beat by a better driver in a slower car. The driver mod is HUGE when at the strip. That is what I believe will secure you your win.


BTW running racegas on your car would be worthless. Stick to 93 pump...

I more or less restated allot of what Jason said but truth is truth...

No 1320 experience here.


:lol:

well i actually have a custom tune for a 107 octane rating made by torrie, so i will see a gain by using racn gas, and i also have the adjustability for my timing so i can advance it a degree or 2. i have allready done as much weight reduction as possible. i have no liner in my trunk, no spare, no front sway bar. I also just installed a 3000 cfm electric fan , bypassing the whole hydraulic fan unit, losing the pump and lines entirely. so cooling down isn't an issue. i also just installed some nitto drag radials. but i haven't gone to the track since these mods, so i am unsure to how it will effect my times.

well i actually have a custom tune for a 107 octane rating made by torrie, so i will see a gain by using racn gas, and i also have the adjustability for my timing so i can advance it a degree or 2. i have allready done as much weight reduction as possible. i have no liner in my trunk, no spare, no front sway bar. I also just installed a 3000 cfm electric fan , bypassing the whole hydraulic fan unit, losing the pump and lines entirely. so cooling down isn't an issue. i also just installed some nitto drag radials. but i haven't gone to the track since these mods, so i am unsure to how it will effect my times.



There is a point of diminishing return while running higher octane fuel in an N/A vehicle. I am sorry but I highly doubt running racegas while still N/A with your LS will help with anything even if you are tuned for it. I am a custom tuner among other things so I do know what I am talking about with the racegas thing. Do not even bother wasting your money on racegas with your setup. I guess it could lighten your wallet quite a bit so there is some more weight reduction there. Hehe

No 1320 experience here.


:lol:

A few LS guys have some track time, but in general the LS hasn't been really track tested by many on here. Thats why some peoples times are a surprize.

I've ran 9.3 11 times, curiosity got the best of me so I counted. 5 were 14.4s and the rest 14.5s. I'm still on 3.31 gearing...for now. Hes got 3.58s and more weight loss and nearly wide open exhaust. (sway bar removed in a LS...got to be a first). A 9.2 1/8th potential. To assume a MarkVIII with above mentioned mods would beat that is a poor assumption.

Still this is close enough to be a drivers race.

How many times have you hit 9.3? Can you do it in this race is the real question.

A few LS guys have some track time, but in general the LS hasn't been really track tested by many on here. Thats why some peoples times are a surprize.




+1. People who think that a stock Gen1 LS8 is only good for mid-15's and that the stocker Gen 2 LS8 is only good for low 15's in the 1/4 mile are sorely mistaken. I have seen quite a few Lincoln owners underestimate their own vehicle due to the fact of them not having enough seat time to drive the car to its real potential.

i have run 9.3's maybe 4 times the rest where somewhere in the 9.4's, and there where a couple higher (bad driving). my 9.37 was my best time to date. but i've only takn the ls down the track maybe 13 times total.

and ILLS this is one of those moments i would love to have some 4.10's :D . so please keep us posted on the progress

and ILLS this is one of those moments i would love to have some 4.10's :D . so please keep us posted on the progress



Yep, 4.10's would do your car allot of justice. There is a certain someone on this site that will be going to an 8.8" 4.10 LSD here soon once he gets off his rear and drags his butt down to my place. ;)

4.10s would be sweet. I had them in my '87 and miss that get up and go!!

4.10s would be sweet. I had them in my '87 and miss that get up and go!!



And with these 3.9's being such a total dog off the line it would be a godsend for actually getting a decent 60' time and thus continuing on to a good 1/4 mile ET. I am looking forward to the results that the 4.10's will give in the LS.

i have run 9.3's maybe 4 times the rest where somewhere in the 9.4's, and there where a couple higher (bad driving). my 9.37 was my best time to date. but i've only takn the ls down the track maybe 13 times total.

If in 13 passes your majority of runs are 9.3s and 9.4s your pretty consistent for the limited number of passes. If you can do that in the race your going to have a very good race.

Let the best driver win.

Yep, 4.10's would do your car allot of justice. There is a certain someone on this site that will be going to an 8.8" 4.10 LSD here soon once he gets off his rear and drags his butt down to my place. ;)

I'm working on it.:)

I'm guessing your talking about a heads up race ?
Not a bracket were you dial in ?
loud00ls what are your reaction times ?
Take a few runs before you race and find the tree by making yourself red light.
Look at your time slips and how far off the tree you are.
Always stage the car in the same spot I would go as deep as I could without turning off the pre stage bulb.
You should be launching during the end of the last amber light that light stays on for a half of a sec.
If you wait untill you see green your reaction time will be slow.
You are trying to get the best light to do this you need to know how long it takes your car to leave.
There are two things one is how you react to the tree and how long it takes the car to go after you mash the gas.
If the mark has never raced and you have and can cut a light you will kick his a$$ easy.
Maybe put him off for a few weeks untill you find the tree.

You bring up a good point. I assume they are racing for quickest timeslip, so RT may not be a issue.

But is most fun to have the quickest timeslip and leave him in the dust even more so due to his poor reaction.

You guys didn't address the biggest factor in determining who will likely win this race....Driver experience..


I put my money here... experience will play the most imortant part.

My money is on Jason:shifty: ... been to the track too much. Oh but then he's not racing :D

So a Mark VIII owner suckers an LS owner into donating $50. Good for him.:p

And if you don't mind... We do prefer to refer to our cars as Mark VIII's.:D

^^^

Lol

It sounds like this guy will not know how to drive his car at the strip. Observing other people racing at the strip and actually doing it are two totally different things. I still think you will likely take him due to your mods making the cars themselves pretty even; and more importantly your seat time. Just make sure you run him on his first one or two run at the track that night.


Do not be worried about allot of these other people posting here saying the Mark will win as they likely do not have much drag racing experience. It is not a guarantee you will win but based upon how you describe the guy I see a pretty high likelihood of it. I have many years experience with this stuff and know that the driver counts for one heck of allot in a race. I have seen MUCH faster cars get beat by a better driver in a slower car. The driver mod is HUGE when at the strip. That is what I believe will secure you your win.


BTW running racegas on your car would be worthless. Stick to 93 pump...

I more or less restated allot of what Jason said but truth is truth...

The driver Mod is the factor that has allowed me to beat cars that are much faster in the quarter than mine. And I have no fear of "blowing my motor" or of going "way too fast" as some of my victims have stated. But I can honestly say that I have yet to be beat by an LS. And I have run 7 or 8 of them. From a dead stop, and from a float. Eight mile, quarter mile, and for miles down the freeway. And my 96 is not modified with the exception of the air box and silencer removal.

its $50. just freaking race already.

You bring up a good point. I assume they are racing for quickest timeslip, so RT may not be a issue.

But is most fun to have the quickest timeslip and leave him in the dust even more so due to his poor reaction.




Oh,pfffft!!! That would be craaaaap if they were racing for the quickest ET. That is like the dyno queens comparing dyno sheets. It's just not real racing unless you include the RT as well.

It should be whomever gets the win light, not the lowest ET. Even then I still think that the LS owner has a really good chance. He has an even better one with RT taken into account.

The driver Mod is the factor that has allowed me to beat cars that are much faster in the quarter than mine. And I have no fear of "blowing my motor" or of going "way too fast" as some of my victims have stated. But I can honestly say that I have yet to be beat by an LS. And I have run 7 or 8 of them. From a dead stop, and from a float. Eight mile, quarter mile, and for miles down the freeway. And my 96 is not modified with the exception of the air box and silencer removal.



Not making any excuses here, but allot of LS owners cannot driver their cars worth a crap. That is why if you look at most Gen 1 stock times you see people turning mid-high 15's. Heck, even Gen 2 stock average ET's are low 15's. Those people are not driving their LS anywhere near to the potential that the car has. When I first took the LS to the strip I ran a 14.7 average ET with CAI and Tune in 45 degree weather 30% hum, 29.0 baro. The next fall with the same tunes and same weather conditions, same cool down period, but with more racing experience with the LS I ran a 14.2 best with tons of 14.3's; off the nitrous of course. Nitrous is much faster. That improvement was due to me finally getting used to how the car liked to be launched and shifted. Once I had enough seat time I could drive the car to its potential. These cars are very picky.

A properly driven stock Gen 1 LS V8 should run a very low 15 second ET...

A properly driven stock Gen 2 LS V8 will hit a 14.7 ET no problem.

Well?? Who won? :F

well i just got back from the track and i am very surprised on how things turned out. i got there around 5:30 and he was already there practicing. so i parked my car and let it cool down for about 30 mins while i got signed up and got my number. about 6:30 we finally got in the staging lanes. i did a quick burnout just to heat the radials up a bit, and pulled up to the tree. we ended up running....
MINE HIS
R/t .314 .761
60' 2.27 2.46
330 5.98 6.59
1/8 9.43 9.86

this was our first race the one we was suppose to be racing for $50 but he said he was spinning to bad and would like go again. so i said let me cool down a bit and we will go again. about 45 mins latter we try again. this time i really heated the tires up


MINE HIS
R/t .561 .652
60' 2.13 2.19
330 5.88 6.11
1/8 9.28 9.45


after we finished that last race we parked and he gave me my 50 dollars and he said "that was a good race, and we should try it again when i get a few more things done" so this is likely to be an ongoing battle... :D

but by the end of the night after a few runs we manged to both get better times he got a 9.42 but im unsure about the rest of the stats because he kept that slip

and i managed a

R/t .347
60' 2.09
330 5.85
1/8th 9.23

that is now my best time to this date.

after we finished that last race we parked and he gave me my 50 dollars and he said "that was a good race, and we should try it again when i get a few more things done" so this is likely to be an ongoing battle... :D

Please provide us his name so I can ban him from the site.;)

How embarrassing.:(

NICE! hahaha, very nice times, thats encouraging.

what mods do you have exactly loud00ls?

How embarrassing.:(



What exactly is embarrassing? Marks are slow turds from the factory too so there isn't much ego to really have there. :confused: A Corvette getting beat by an LS, yes embarrassing (I have experienced that BTW...I was in the LS.); but not a barge like the Mark VIII. :F

Nice.

A Corvette getting beat by an LS, yes embarrassing (I have experienced that BTW...I was in the LS.)

i would love to see that.

i would love to see that.



I wish I had the video cam at the time. Oh well, it always seems your best 1/4 runs and more enjoyable encounters are never the ones caught on tape. It was a Red C5 Corvette with the manual trans. All it had for mods was an exhaust from what the owner told me later. The fella got the jump on me but I was able to reel him in and pass him.

By the way, congrats loud00ls I figured you had the win pretty easily. Like I said, your cars are pretty equal within themselves but you had seat time at the track and he didn't which was the deciding factor. If you all look back you will notice I pretty much predicted exactly how this race would go from the blowing off the tires by the inexperienced Mark owner to various other things. I love cocky Mark VIII owners. Enjoy your $50. ;)


I also just took a look at my old N/A timeslips and you would have just been .01 seconds behind me in the 1/8th and to my knowledge my LS is the fastest N/A LS. Mine is a Gen2 by the way so good going on the Gen 1 times. You are easily hitting a 14.3 now if you were to run the 1/4 mile. What MPH was your 9.23 run?

im sorry for not posting the mph i was kind of out of it last night when i got home. for the first and second run it was 75 and 78 the 9.23 was 79. As for the money i spent most of it last night getting gas just so i could make it home. :( so that was very helpful. ... im now kinda wanting 9.19 so im probably going to go next weekend, and see if i cant get a better slip. Is there anything anyone could sugest to get a lower time, or is a 9.23 about it. i know its not im my 60 foot so im basically thinking the only way is going to be to make more power or loose more weight. But im unsure about how to do ethier of those. im pretty sure i got every mod but nitrous so ....any suggestions.

Nice! Glad I was wrong!

Nice job. If you add the R/T and the amount you won by on thet first slip...you KICKED his azz. I bet several car lengths.

Important to note it looks like his best was still not as good as your worse. So you would win no matter what race he had his best. Also never lost R/T.

I bet it felt nice receiving the $50...spending it already doesn't matter.

Good job on getting you 60' down. a 2.09 is awesome. My best is 2.123 I believe.

You have the best Gen1 N/A 1/8th now. Mine was 9.305. I'm still on 3.31s...likely the difference. Come on 4.10s.

I figure that 9.23 to be a 14.3 for sure. Your 9.28 should be a 14.4 very low if not the top of a 14.3.

Sad thing the LS owners were saying you'd loose too.

yeah the first race was pretty pathetic he was atleast 3 or so cars back.. i think i was laughn the whole way.. :D ..yea i had no problems payin 2.86 a gallon on gas when it wasn't my money. ;) ...my last 60 foot really amazed me i was not expecting that at all. Im sure if i had 4.10 or 4.30's (HINT HINT) i would easly get high 1.7 or low 1.8's with traction . 02lse96lsc91se84tc what was the previous best gen 1 time. And yes It is pretty bad that most of the other ls owners thought the mark would win. You would think they would know how capable these cars really are, but maybe these cars just need to be in the right hands. ;)

my mod list is 3.58 gears, nitto drag radials, huge weight reduction, sct computer,ported TB, GMS coil packs and stainless steel wires (03 Mustang Gt's), custom 2.5 exhaust into a x pipe and straight back, removed cats,hydraulic pump and fan removal, 3,000 CFm electric fan, eibach springs, custom intake that drops down behind my fog light, and i remove my fog light for a ram air kind of effect ....thats about it..

yeah the first race was pretty pathetic he was atleast 3 or so cars back.. i think i was laughn the whole way.. :D ..yea i had no problems payin 2.86 a gallon on gas when it wasn't my money. ;) ...my last 60 foot really amazed me i was not expecting that at all. Im sure if i had 4.10 or 4.30's (HINT HINT) i would easly get high 1.7 or low 1.8's with traction . 02lse96lsc91se84tc what was the previous best gen 1 time. And yes It is pretty bad that most of the other ls owners thought the mark would win. You would think they would know how capable these cars really are, but maybe these cars just need to be in the right hands. ;)

Naturally aspirated I think my 9.305 was best for Gen1, that I know of. I have the LSK Alunimum intake w/KKM, MagnaFlow, and Xcal2. Stock otherwise right to the original plugs and coil packs, no weight reduction other than spare, jack and trunk floor. I'm still on the 3.31 gearing. Your right with the best Gen2 times, although that was done with just intake and tune but still, we start off 28hp down. I don't think 410s are going to drop you that low in the 60'...would be nice, but I hoping consistent 1.9s and 13.9 1/4s.

The 8.8 swap is looking very good so far, most guess work has been eliminated. I decided to buy new for the Traction Lock rather than rebuild a old unit I have. I'm Going with Ford Racing gears, little extra money but best quility(quietest). Collecting parts now and should happen by the end of the month.

Nice win against the Mark VIII. What was his MPH?

I don't think 410s are going to drop you that low in the 60'...would be nice, but I hoping consistent 1.9s and 13.9 1/4s.



+1. No way in heck your 60's will cut down that low. I don't even expect to see those 60' times after the turbo when I am pushing probably around 350-375rwhp and with the LSD rear and DR's. I think solid 1.9's for sure for you though.


By they way 02LSE texted me and let me know my math was off a little. I said you were .01 behind my Gen2 best 1/8th time. Actually you ran .01 better than my best 1/8th mile time. However, I remember when 02LSE and I would go to the track he always hung REAL close with me to the 1/8th and then I would pull away from him after that. Your regular throttle cable really helps to make your launches peppier.

You said something about possibly needing nitrous? I have my full nitrous system off my LS for sale now. If you really are serious about getting a full nitrous system for your car then shoot me a PM.

well i was thinking those 60 foots on nitrous. But yeah i guess when i think about it is unlikely, even on slicks.. i was also curious if yall would think a stall converter from tci for and 05 mustang would work in our cars. because i actually know a guy that bought one for his car, but he actually totaled his car before installation...??

well i was thinking those 60 foots on nitrous. But yeah i guess when i think about it is unlikely, even on slicks.. i was also curious if yall would think a stall converter from tci for and 05 mustang would work in our cars. because i actually know a guy that bought one for his car, but he actually totaled his car before installation...??



Well nitrous is a little different of a story than you running N/A. In that case as long as you have a LSD rear then you will have a good chance of hitting a 1.8 60' time once you are used to the car while on nitrous. You will likely hit a better 60' on the nitrous than I will with the turbo even if I will be pushing about 30-40rwhp more. Those 60' times will be abusive on the drivetrain so if I were you I would launch on the progressive controller so the shot can kind of ease in instead of hitting all at once. It will abuse your car less and also not overpower your tires where you are losing traction. Even progressive with the 100 shot I had to really ease into the shot as I was encountering very large traction issues. Most of that was due to the open rear end and stock tires in my case.

Which friday are you going to race? I thought it would of been over on the 7th, " race already" Don't keep me in suspense!!! I'M AN OLD MAN AND CAN'T TAKE THE PRESSURE!!!:eek: LOL! LOL! LOL!

Which friday are you going to race? I thought it would of been over on the 7th, " race already" Don't keep me in suspense!!! I'M AN OLD MAN AND CAN'T TAKE THE PRESSURE!!!:eek: LOL! LOL! LOL!

^^^^ you missed post #41. He smoked him.

Which friday are you going to race? I thought it would of been over on the 7th, " race already" Don't keep me in suspense!!! I'M AN OLD MAN AND CAN'T TAKE THE PRESSURE!!!:eek: LOL! LOL! LOL!

NEVER MIND !!!!!! I DIDN'T READ ALL THE REPLIES " I'M BAD" SORRY!!!!

oh yah! nevermind my 1st reply #9, I knew you would win all along!!lol lol lol

well i was thinking those 60 foots on nitrous. But yeah i guess when i think about it is unlikely, even on slicks.. i was also curious if yall would think a stall converter from tci for and 05 mustang would work in our cars. because i actually know a guy that bought one for his car, but he actually totaled his car before installation...??

I have been toying with that idea since the new Mustangs are now using the 5speed auto. The flexplate on the 3.9 will likely be different than the 4.6. Cant swap flexplates or at least I really doubt it. My thoughts are while I haven't investigated that while similar it would be a custom unit.

This car weak low RPM power would really benefit from one. Just skip right over those RPMs all together. This would help that 60'. Stall converters are a popular bolt on for the Mark guys, really gets that helps that boat get off the line.

Don't tell your friend.

My 95 Mark VIII ran 13.8 at 101 mph with just gears no high stall torque converter, stock headers and dayton all season tires. 2.1 60 foot time although later I did 2.0 60 but the weather was worse so I ran 13.9. If we had the 5 speed tranny from the LS I bet that would cut like 3-4 tenths easily.

I didn't think they would match since the flexplates do have differnt part numbers. I've also been considering a custom stall convertor for a while but i am unsure of any trust worthy shops to do so. And i also noticed a weird rattling noise coming from my transmission (probually not good) and yes i am 100% possitive it is from my transmission. So im probually goin to end up pulling the trans to fix what-ever the problem is anyways so i figure now would be a good time for a stall. Anyone one know of any good shops that do custom stalls?

Call up http://www.edgeracingconverters.com/ they might be able to help. Or call TCI directly they make some 05 GT converters.

Not so much important that the flexplate is different, more if the bolt arrangement connecting the converter to it are the same. Not likely...well who knows maybe?? If there was a stall available I would consider one seriously.

Is there anything anyone could sugest to get a lower time, or is a 9.23 about it.
Try losing a little weight. (not you, the car. Unless you think you need to lose weight, then by all means) :p

Any extra stereo equipment (subs amp), spare tire in the trunk, take it out. Go to the track with as little fuel as possible. Take a gas can with you so you'll have enough to make it to a station afterwards for the trip home.

The only problem whit this that I can see is, most of the weight that can be removed from an LS is in the back. Which means less weight on the drive wheels, so you might have to practice your launch a little more to get the least wheel spin.

My 95 Mark VIII ran 13.8 at 101 mph with just gears no high stall torque converter, stock headers and dayton all season tires. 2.1 60 foot time although later I did 2.0 60 but the weather was worse so I ran 13.9. If we had the 5 speed tranny from the LS I bet that would cut like 3-4 tenths easily.



All you have to do is run the 5R55W tranny from the 4.6 V8 Ford Explorer or the 5R55S trans from the S197 Mustang GT; both are the same as the S & N tranny from the LS's except that they have the proper bellhousing bolt pattern for the 4.6. Run it standalone with a controller from PTCS. The reason I know this will work is because I have done the reverse of the operation and converted from 5R55W trans to bullet proof 4R70W with standalone controller. To my knowledge PTCS is the only place offering a standalone controller for the new Ford 5R series transmissions. You would need the trans+TC, Explorer flexplate, Explorer starter, custom driveshaft (or modified Explorer shaft), and standalone controller. You will have to modify your shift linkage just a little bit but it is minor bracketry and metal work.

Why did this die off. Maybe it should be a MarkVIII sticky.:D

Why did this die off. Maybe it should be a MarkVIII sticky.:D





I suspect too much tech talk and not enough lambo doors and subs talk... :D