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royal purple oil

nortyhat
August 29th, 2007, 05:20 PM
is it good to put royal purple oil in my 2002 lincoln ls i have 55,000 miles on it?

dubLS00
August 29th, 2007, 05:23 PM
i wanted to try that oil too i have a 2000

jtscully82
August 29th, 2007, 05:37 PM
You have to be careful when switching to full syn. I am running ams oil in mine now, but it only had 17000 when i got it. I run royal purple in my truck, before i had it rebuild i was running syn and it leaked bad.

Jim Henderson
August 29th, 2007, 06:01 PM
If your engine leaks or uses oil now, it will use more syn. For an engine in good condition, a syn oil will work just fine.

Way back in the 70s and 80s, syn had a problem with the old style seals etc and would cause leaks. That problem has been cured years ago. Now it is just a question of whether you already have a leak.

Good Luck,

Jim Henderson

L.Ls
August 29th, 2007, 06:22 PM
im useing it in my 2001

jgfish97
August 29th, 2007, 07:11 PM
I used RP in my '02 from day one. Now with my '06, same thing.

scjmc
August 29th, 2007, 08:30 PM
I started using mobil 1 full synthetic in my 02 at 19K. It now has 59K and no problems. I switched my 99 F-150 0ver at 100K with no problems. I switched wife's Pathfinder over to semi-synthetic at 81K no problems. I switched my wife's 93 grand cherokee to semi-synthetic at 138K miles...problems as follows... HUGE oil consumption problems after 3K turned out to be valve guide seals. Oil pan, valve cover, and rear main seal oil leaks. Still has small oil consumption problem now despite excellent compression now 154K.

gt95coupe
August 30th, 2007, 07:11 PM
I use it in my 02 and no probs

Eliot_Ness_Ls
August 30th, 2007, 07:13 PM
Got my 2000 at 45k, now have it at 75k and I used RP all the way. Awsome stuff!

jiggajatt
August 30th, 2007, 07:21 PM
put mobil 1 in my 05 at 17k miles switched to royal purple at 43k. runs like a champ

PGA2B
August 30th, 2007, 08:44 PM
That is what I use and I get 3mpg more with it!!

gcwimmer
August 31st, 2007, 08:45 AM
Take a look at this under TECH ARTICLES.


http://www.lincolnvscadillac.com/tech/Horsepower.htm

lseguy
August 31st, 2007, 09:04 AM
In all honesty? I've used almost every kind of oil out there. Castrol dino 10w-40 every 7k in an 80's Jetta that I put 135k miles on. No engine issues when I sold it. Castrol 20w-50 every 7k in a later (89) Jetta that I put 90k on with no engine issues.

Mobil 1 every 10k on a 318is (hard working 4 cylinder) that I had from 1992 to 1999 with 130k on the clock when I wrecked it. (no oil related engine issues). Factory Motorcraft oil every 5k for the first 50k of the life of my old V6 LS, then mobil 1 every 10k until I sold it at around 70k miles. No engine issues.

Same regimen for this V8 LS, except I save a few bucks by using the SuperTech Walmart brand synthetic...every 10k miles. Engine purrs along just fine at 87k miles.

And my brothers daily commuter...a 1993 325i with about 210k miles or so on it has used mobil 1 every 10-15k (as of late, its more like 15k intervals)..and the engine still fires up and runs strong. No smoke, nothing.

So based upon my experiences, there is a LOT of marketing hype amongst all of the oils.

Eliot_Ness_Ls
August 31st, 2007, 09:28 AM
Not really, if you can get the Royal Purple at the cheapest price, IMO its worth the extra milage you can put on it. And doing it yourself makes all the difference.

King03LS8
August 31st, 2007, 10:52 AM
For the record, I wouldn't buy a Wal-Mart synthetic ever, I just could not trust it.

Anyway, I just use Motorcraft from the dealer since I don't have to pay for it, seems to work well.

lseguy
August 31st, 2007, 02:03 PM
For the record, I wouldn't buy a Wal-Mart synthetic ever, I just could not trust it.



LOL. It's from a major Petroleum distributor, with additive packages that give it a rating which exceeds Lincolns oil recommendation specs. In many tests, it's actually proven itself superior to some of the major brands marketed to us. (and those marketing costs passed on to consumers of those major oils)

It's not like Sam Walton's kids developed SuperTech in the back of Walmart and stuck it in a bottle. :D (If I went into a store and saw a bottle of synthetic called "Gay Motor Oil" for 2.00 a quart, I'd buy it as long as it exceeded manufacturers recommendations and had been tested to perform as expected. I could care less about fancy TV commercials and marketing hype)

Check the label next time you are in there for the specs. And price. You might be surprised.

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20060924221732AAQvpFK

http://www.boss302.com/oil.htm

Eliot_Ness_Ls
August 31st, 2007, 02:47 PM
Check the label next time you are in there for the specs. And price. You might be surprised.


But cant one think that this is marketing garbage as well?

My main purpose for useing RP is that you can keep it for 3 times the amount of changes that some people go by.

King03LS8
August 31st, 2007, 04:03 PM
But cant one think that this is marketing garbage as well?

My main purpose for useing RP is that you can keep it for 3 times the amount of changes that some people go by.

Exactly, marketing garbage......

Call me crazy, but count me out on the Wal-Mart oil dude.....if I wanted that I'd dig it out of the storm drains.

Eliot_Ness_Ls
August 31st, 2007, 04:39 PM
It meets a standard yes, it all must meet a standard but its only worth what you pay for it and that is the minimum standard required, so yes if I wanted the minimum I would use it but I want better so Ill pay for it. That is the whole reason why some decide to use RP because you get the 75$-90$ a case worth of cash out of it.

King03LS8
August 31st, 2007, 05:09 PM
It meets a standard yes, it all must meet a standard but its only worth what you pay for it and that is the minimum standard required, so yes if I wanted the minimum I would use it but I want better so Ill pay for it. That is the whole reason why some decide to use RP because you get the 75$-90$ a case worth of cash out of it.

I'm on your side here man.....

RP is a great oil.

I just would not buy that other garbage no matter what "standards" it says it meets or exceeds.

lseguy
August 31st, 2007, 05:42 PM
LOL. The experts are right..reading comprehension in America is at an all time low. :-)

I clearly said above "exceeds Lincolns (actually Fords) minimum requirements for oil".

As far as "marketing hype". Viscosity ratings and ASE/API aren't marketing lables. They are government specifications. with regards to the specifications..from the label from a quart of SuperTech 5w-30:

"Exceeds API SM/CF, ILSAC GF-4, ACEA A1-02 and previous API gasoline engine classifications including SL, SJ, SH, and ILSAC GF-3."

Now your homework assignment: Find out the oil spec requirements for the LS, then compare to the above..and compare to the factory recommended Motorcraft synthetic blend.

Then bash...from an educated perspective.

;-)

evillally
August 31st, 2007, 05:43 PM
is it good to put royal purple oil in my 2002 lincoln ls i have 55,000 miles on it?

No. Use another brand.

King03LS8
August 31st, 2007, 05:51 PM
LOL. The experts are right..reading comprehension in America is at an all time low. :-)

I clearly said above "exceeds Lincolns (actually Fords) minimum requirements for oil".

As far as "marketing hype". Viscosity ratings and ASE/API aren't marketing lables. They are government specifications. with regards to the specifications..from the label from a quart of SuperTech 5w-30:

"Exceeds API SM/CF, ILSAC GF-4, ACEA A1-02 and previous API gasoline engine classifications including SL, SJ, SH, and ILSAC GF-3."

Now your homework assignment: Find out the oil spec requirements for the LS, then compare to the above..and compare to the factory recommended Motorcraft synthetic blend.

Then bash...from an educated perspective.

;-)


Next time I want a copy and paste assignment I'll be sure to ask you, ok?

The oil is still garbage no matter what you or Sam's Club (Wal-Mart) says.

lseguy
August 31st, 2007, 06:15 PM
Actually, NONE of that was cut and paste. Want to use google to verify? ;-)

And what..no basis to substantiate your argument I take it? No scientific data? No documented facts disputing the SM rating and the fact that it exceeds Fords requirements?


Didnt think so. :cool:

*flex*


Enjoy the labor day weekend!

King03LS8
August 31st, 2007, 06:39 PM
Actually, NONE of that was cut and paste. Want to use google to verify? ;-)

And what..no basis to substantiate your argument I take it? No scientific data? No documented facts disputing the SM rating and the fact that it exceeds Fords requirements?


Didnt think so. :cool:

*flex*


Enjoy the labor day weekend!


Ok, well then running out to your garage, grabbing an oil jug and reading and typing what it says, same difference.

*mega flex*

douche

Eliot_Ness_Ls
August 31st, 2007, 07:40 PM
Ignore him, he thinks everything he does is the only right way. If you have expensive 20's his factory 16's are better if you use good oil his cheap :q:q:q:q is better and his girl friend that is 7 years younger than he is tells him it should be that way. He is a elitest and everything should be considered fact based on his opinion.

lseguy
August 31st, 2007, 09:13 PM
Still no documented technical data to dispute the data that SuperTech Synthetic exceeds Ford's motor oil requirements for motor oil? Not even from the longstanding bobistheoilguy.com website?



Nothing?




(this is tooo easy) ;-)

scjmc
September 1st, 2007, 10:07 AM
Gay Motor Oil :bowrofl: :bowrofl:

JPsBored
September 1st, 2007, 10:24 AM
I contacted RP to see which oil I should use if any for my 2000 V8 w/ 140,000 miles.


Hi Can you tell me which oil and tranni fluid to use in my 2000 Lincoln LS V8 3.9 Automatic?

Thank U
John

John,

For the V-8 engine, RP 5W30 - takes 6 quarts

For the automatic transmission - RP MaxATF - takes 11.8 quarts total fill

Thanks,

David

David Canitz
Tech Services Manager
Royal Purple Inc.

> Subject: RE: Automotive Questions _ Lincoln LS
>
> Thanks..also Car as 140,000 miles.
>
> 1ith no known leaks.
>
> Should I be ok?


You'll be fine.

The RP Motor Oils have been put into vehicles with higher mileage without
any issues.
The added cleaning ability of the synthetic base oils and additives will
clean up deposits slowly over time - they do not create leaks.
This rumor / myth is a result of the cleaning ability removing sludge left
by mineral oil removed from marginal gaskets / seals that have become hard
and cracked. The synthetic cleans up the sludge in the crack and exposes a
pre-existing leak but it did not cause the leak - just found one that was
already there.

Since your LS is not currently leaking oil, nor consuming oil, switching to
RP will lead to improved fuel mileage, reduced engine noise and vibration
and all around better performance.

Thanks for using RP.

David

David Canitz

eastcoastLS
September 1st, 2007, 10:24 AM
i went to wal-mart to get the wal-mart brand oil but couldn't find it. what label is the oil under? SuperTech?

lseguy
September 1st, 2007, 11:24 AM
i went to wal-mart to get the wal-mart brand oil but couldn't find it. what label is the oil under? SuperTech?

Smart guy.

Yep. Supertech is their Full Synthetic branded motor oil. (Warren Inc is the distributor. At last check Penzoil was the base and additive package supplier. May have changed, but the SM and API ratings are consistent. WalMart is simply the label. They purchase in bulk and have no TV commercials or magazine ads, hence the savings.) I get the 5 quart 5w-30 jug for about $13 on sale, $14.88 is the regular price I think.

The SuperTech oil filters get even higher ratings in the tests, however, I couldnt fine one that fits the 3.9 V8, so I go with the lower rated Motorcraft oil filter.

eastcoastLS
September 1st, 2007, 12:54 PM
need to change my oil, thats why i ask.

nortyhat
September 4th, 2007, 11:25 AM
well i had went and bought the royal purple oil today, so im going to let you guys know how it works when i get it changed, thanks for the input.

Eliot_Ness_Ls
September 4th, 2007, 11:32 AM
Smart guy, you wont be let down.

King03LS8
September 4th, 2007, 06:19 PM
Is it on sale today? I mean, because you would know. Maybe I'll get some of that storm drain oil....

Eliot_Ness_Ls
September 4th, 2007, 07:45 PM
Maybe I'll get some of that storm drain oil....

:lol: Maybe we can bottle it and make some money.

nortyhat
September 4th, 2007, 08:29 PM
hey this oil is amazing. i mean you really could feel the difference of the performance i wonder how its going to do on fuel saving. but i recommend this for everyone. another question i would like to ask is it states you could go longer without oil changes, now i know its not good to run on dirty oil so why is this stating you could?

Eliot_Ness_Ls
September 4th, 2007, 09:37 PM
Go a few thousand miles past your normal mileage that you change. Check the dipstick, and you'll see why. It don't burn like others after a certain point and it stays fresh for a while.

gcwimmer
September 5th, 2007, 02:43 AM
Most full synthetic branded motor oil will outlive the oil filter. If your one that goes say 15K on an oil change, change the filter and add a qt. half way.

lseguy
September 5th, 2007, 08:39 AM
Most full synthetic branded motor oil will outlive the oil filter. If your one that goes say 15K on an oil change, change the filter and add a qt. half way.

+1. And correct, this is true for any full synthetic oil in general, assuming the engine is running in it's proper state of tune. But there are still other factors. Ex: if a person driving was mostly short trips (under 10 miles or so) where the engine never really ever got up to full operating temp on a regular basis, it's still a better idea to change every 5k miles or so, regardless of oil, because the condensation never burns off of the oil, and you will have conditions that are condusive to sludge buildup.

And I assume the person who just recently switched to synthetic above must have also been using a VERY heavy viscosity wieght oil before the switch, because I've yet to see a legitimate, unbiased dyno report that shows a noticeable hp gain just from going from one brand of synth oil to another within the same viscosity range. Even the unbiased dynos show HP "gains" of maybe 3-4hp. Which on a 250hp engine equates to about a 3%hp "gain", which is impossible to notice with the "butt" dyno.

Sometimes the placebo effect can be very strong. ;)

King03LS8
September 5th, 2007, 10:29 PM
No, I called it garbage.

He called it marketing garbage....they both are correct.

Now where is that storm drain-----?

lseguy
September 6th, 2007, 11:11 AM
I said there isn't anything wrong with it.


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