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20" Rims

shorty10
May 13th, 2007, 10:28 PM
What size of tire do you guys recommend so it doesn't rub? Im thinking of going with 235/35/20 or 245/35/20 which is better

Frogman
May 13th, 2007, 10:39 PM
Everyone's got 20's. go with 24's.

Those are Bling Bling, y0!

StincolnLincoln
May 13th, 2007, 10:41 PM
lmao Frogman is a smartass lol..... i always look forward to his responses lol.. what RIMS lol WHEELS do you have post a pic

02LSE96LSC91SE84TC
May 13th, 2007, 10:42 PM
The difference between those 2 tire sizes is pretty small. Width and offset of the rim will cause the rub. I have the 245s...no rubbing, stock springs.

shorty10
May 13th, 2007, 10:46 PM
thanks guys will post pictures next week when I get them on.

Eliot_Ness_Ls
May 14th, 2007, 08:45 AM
Width and offset of the rim will cause the rub.

Please..not to argue but thats wrong you can run different size tires and get rid of the rub ( but some say its not good to do ). I have the 245's also and I never rubbed anything once....knock on wood cause now Ill probably shred a tire.

The issue isnt the wheel beeing that big anymore its the width of the wheel and drop with the springs you have or if you intend to get any.

02LSE96LSC91SE84TC
May 14th, 2007, 09:18 AM
Please..not to argue but thats wrong you can run different size tires and get rid of the rub ( but some say its not good to do ). I have the 245's also and I never rubbed anything once....knock on wood cause now Ill probably shred a tire.

The issue isnt the wheel beeing that big anymore its the width of the wheel and drop with the springs you have or if you intend to get any.

Dude you seem to have a compehension problem because you basically said the same thing. I didn't say tires can't cause a rub...the 2 tires he stated are very similar and both have been used by members here on 20s. Both will work with the right WIDTH and OFFSET. The rim width and offset are more important, if the rim is to wide and the offset is to big or small...it'll rub with either tire or any frickin tire.

As far as lowering I mentioned I'm at stock ride height for reference for him. So if he was lowered he could listen more to someone who is also lowered but then obviously the smaller tire would provide more clearence.

Eliot_Ness_Ls
May 14th, 2007, 09:37 AM
Here we go again always have to argue....you said width and offset will make it rub. I say even with width and offset it can be done by tire size.

And as far as lowering that statement was made without your ass in mind, I wasnt even thinking about you or your car.

And no it wont rub with any frickin tire idiot dont argue dude! You can stretch tires and that creats a curve in the tire makeing more room available. Of cousre there is a limit but some make it seem like you cant go past the factory limit, with stretching tires you can go past that enough to make a vissual difference and get the look you want.


Whats compehension? Oh I get it comprehension.. can you comprehend this?

02LSE96LSC91SE84TC
May 14th, 2007, 10:09 AM
"creats a curve" huh.

Eliot_Ness_Ls
May 14th, 2007, 10:47 AM
yes it does it creates* "more" of a curve sorry (Ill addmit thats my fault) in the tire it rounds the tire off more so it can add more space between it and the body at the fender.

Back to the subject...if your not dooing anything fancy or extreme like dropping it so low that youll have the wheels and tires tucked and a huge lip with a wider wheel both of those sizes are good.

02LSE96LSC91SE84TC
May 14th, 2007, 11:48 AM
Your basically saying that you can make the rub go away with running to narrow a tire on a wider rim...maybe. But without knowing the width of the rim and if the offset will even put it under the car. I know what your saying but not enough info was givin, just 2 tire sizes both common for 20 users. My statement of offset and width is general but more often where people have there issues.

People who start there responses..."not to argue" oddly always do.

shorty10
May 14th, 2007, 02:44 PM
ok guys here is the issue. i have been looking for rims that have a big and in the ls bolt pattern 5X108 its hard. I finally found the ones i like and im getting them this week i ended up going with a 235 for the width. I'm dropping it or anything. here is a picture of the rims im getting. let me know what you think?

Eliot_Ness_Ls
May 14th, 2007, 06:14 PM
Not a fan of chrome but those look good can you get them polished?

Here is some pics of some oddball wheel fitments that shouldnt be but are made possible anyway....
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b335/calitri808/VIP/DSCF0450.jpg
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b335/calitri808/VIP/DSCF0447.jpg
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b335/calitri808/cruise/DSCF0720.jpg

shorty10
May 14th, 2007, 10:07 PM
hopefully they don't look like but yeah you can get then gunmetal or black or black with chrome. just had lse body kit put on and when i put the rims ill post pictures.

Frogman
May 15th, 2007, 02:26 AM
So you're just gonna buy the Rims off those wheels? Uhh. ok.

LSsoFresh
May 15th, 2007, 11:26 AM
I just bought 20s also, so what tires are the best? they're boss 327s 20x8.5 with a 40mm+ offset and I have stock 2002 sport ls springs.

LSsoFresh
May 15th, 2007, 11:30 AM
Heres what they look like

rickztahone
May 15th, 2007, 12:23 PM
i have similar rims like the one shorty10 put up but they are zenik z9's. the tire size is 245/35/20. haven't had a problem with rub at all.

26106

black_lincoln
May 15th, 2007, 08:55 PM
i`m running 245/35/20 with a 20x7.5 inch rim and a +48mm offset. no rubbing issues at all and get full turning radius.

the tires on the lexus were probably done on purpose. its kinda like the thing to do in certain places. i think its called "stretching". when i was getting my rims the guy was telling me that was an option to think about when choosing my tires. not my style though.

LeaSr77
May 15th, 2007, 09:10 PM
Like black lincoln said, in the pic you can see the side wall of the tires stretched. This is common on a lot of imports and is big in Europe. It's a look that some people like but believe me you are going to pay dearly for it in the long run. The lip of your rims will look like cookie monster got a hold of them.

lseguy
May 16th, 2007, 05:49 AM
just wondering if tire manufacturers are aware of this "stretching" and if so, is it recommended? That cant be good for the sidewalls/tire edges. Especially during hard or performance cornering?

Eliot_Ness_Ls
May 16th, 2007, 07:28 AM
The lip of your rims will look like cookie monster got a hold of them.
If you are careless yes but even drift cars do it with out a problem busting out the side wall or grinding the wheels rim "in some cases". But that nots the case for most people, they useualy do it on showy type cars that dont get much abuse.

Its not about the way it looks, its about getting the right size wheel you want with the drop in ride height.

lseguy
May 16th, 2007, 09:28 AM
Im sorry. But i'm still not understanding.

What's the purpose of "stretching" again? Is it just for the look?
And is the look supposed to be the new "cool" thing?
My girlfriend (who is several years younger than I, and is fairly hip) saw the pic and asked "Whats wrong with the tires on that Lexus??)

And sometimes guys still dress up their cars to impress...women. (We lie and say we dont..but we aint waxing and cleaning and polishing to impress large sweaty menz)

With that in mind...

02V8Sport
May 16th, 2007, 09:49 AM
if thats the "hot" look in Europe, let it stay there. Stretching tires accomplishes the task of fitting in a fatter wheel but looks god-awful.

jgfish97
May 16th, 2007, 10:36 AM
Not a fan. I'm not trying to increase my chances of a blow out.

Eliot_Ness_Ls
May 16th, 2007, 10:59 AM
No one person said that "you" have to like it thats the bottom line.

Im not to big of a fan but hey it gets the job done and the fact is that some show cars that do it have alot more respect then any LS in the world, but should any of that make a difference to any of us?

No!

Lseguy...you talk about feeling the need to impress women but yet you tossed in that comment about your girlfriend, that makes no sense at all, if you shouldnt feel the need to impress than what difference does it make what your girlfriend has to say and how young she is? I dont know her personaly but hey maybe shes a cool person...BUT IT SHOULDNT MAKE A DIFFERENCE... right? I know I dont need to impress any women I have a damn good one.

And what the hell is any chick gunna be impressed by tire size or feel the need to care about it?

I do all that waxing and polishing to my car cause it helps it stay clean and in shape. We drive LS's women like them in general no matter what anyway.

lseguy
May 16th, 2007, 05:52 PM
I made that last post half tongue in cheek. But when chicks check out your car in a positive manner. Thats a GOOD thing.

To each his own..but for some reason...using tires..a key aspect of a motor vehicle...in a manner not intended by the manufacturer, seems kinda shaky to me.

I could almost see if it looked BETTER than a proper fitment. But it doesnt. To make the tire/wheel assembly look WORSE..for no positive reason..is incredibly...stupid? Is that too strong a word?

02LSE96LSC91SE84TC
May 16th, 2007, 06:04 PM
Way to answer the original question...

NateRW21
May 16th, 2007, 08:52 PM
stretching... yeah, it's just as dangerous as running a 12" wide mud tire on 6" wheels; you're asking for sidewall failure and/or bead rupture.

Anyway, this post got way off topic; I think the general concensious is that you'll be okay with either tire size and the given dimensions of the wheel (assuming you're in the "normal" range for offset).

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