I'm looking for a remote start for my 03' LS8, I was wondering if any aftermarket package can provide the functionality to turn on my heated/cooled seat from the remote. I like the remotes with the car's status on the LCD, with the 1mile+ range, a friend of mine has one for his GTP, and it's great, but his doesn't do the remote seat control, can any?

You can have the climate-controlled seats come on automatically if you put them in "auto" mode. Just press and hold both the seat heating and cooling buttons until the middle indicator over each turns green, then the seat heating/cooling will be tied into the EATC, and will remain so, even after a restart of the car.

Get the Viper 791XV I love it never thought it would have such a long range you'd be impressed what it can do.

Anybody know of a good remote start system that i can use my factory key fob with and not need an additional remote to use it?

IIRC, the top-end Ford Remote Start kit uses a remote that includes the functionality of the factory remote.

I have the Clifford RSX 3.5 or something like that. I've been pleased with it.

Black, Were you able to use your factory key fob or did you need a separate remote for the starting function?

its the remote that came with the alarm. the kind with the LCD status indicator on it.

Black03, why did you pick the RSX Line? Did you compare it to the AvantGuard 5? I've been lookin at those two.

Are there any systems out there where you don't have to give up a spare key? I have a 01 LS8. It hit -3 today, time to put a remote start in!

Are there any systems out there where you don't have to give up a spare key? I have a 01 LS8. It hit -3 today, time to put a remote start in!

nope, the key is part of the security system which is needed to start the car. w/o the key, the car will not start, you need to put the key in the bypass module.

He's right. Some older cars can use parts that "remember" the key so it is not needed to start it, but with the LS it needs the actual key.

According to directed electronics there bypass module 1100F does not require the key and in LS specific, but it is bit pricey for a bypass module

Hey Nick, just saw your post. I called around to some places looking for the AG5 originally and finally found an installer that had it. When I went up there the owner actually talked me down to the RSX and less money because I didn't need the AvantGuard5. He said most of the features it has were not benefitial for my application. For a highly modified car it would be great, but at the time it was like a $400 safe to protect my piggy bank so to speak. Either way I think you will be fine, they are both fine alarms, just go with whatever is cheaper or has more features you like.

EXACTLY!!! $400 to protect a piggy bank.. I mainly need the RSX 3.5, but would want to add the BlackJax to it.. Is that possible since they are from two different lines from Clifford?

What was the total for the alarm and install? I found a dealer that wants $900 "out the door" for the AG5.. But I don't need all that.. But the BlackJax is a Nice Option...

My RSX was around $550. However, I added 4 interior sirens (about $20 each) and a backup battery (don't remember how much that was). Also, my friend worked at Ultimate Electronics and he gave me a little discount. Nothing major but something. I was figuring around $850 for the AG5 but decided to save the $300 instead.

In all honesty, go talk to a high end installer. If it's somebody that NEEDS the business they will tell you anything, if they could do without it you will most likely get more accurate information. I ended up not even going with the guy that sold me on the RSX because I could get it better with my friend, but the guy was giving me a no BS answer to my problem. He took into concideration where I lived, where I worked, what I drove, my wheels, car, engine, add-ons, everything, then made a decision on what he would reccomend FOR ME.

look on shopzilla.com and search for the 3.5 matrix clifford. you should get it for around 200-250 then take it to your local installer. who should install it for no more than 150. tell the installer to add the required relays to keep the oem alarm features such as the windows going down along with other features that come with the alarm such as remote start and you get an alarm with it. Thats what I did and i got a great alarm at a good price, seeing how most car audio places were charging me around 600 for the same system. so I think buying it and getting it installed comes out cheaper and better.

I've had several local authorized dealers say they won't install any "brought in" alarms. Got to buy it from them....Supposidly it's Clifford's policy.. SOme BS like that

what remote start would you recommend for my 00 v6 5spd?

what remote start would you recommend for my 00 v6 5spd?

I use thes on all my installs, you wont be disappointed for the price, been using them for 4-5 years now. Never had one break or go bad yet.

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how can i tap it into my car so the clutch dosnt needa b in

I use thes on all my installs, you wont be disappointed for the price, been using them for 4-5 years now. Never had one break or go bad yet.

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What do you do about the PATS system?

I'm getting one done on wed. Called lincoln, they gave me name of local shop they use. 199 for kit that requires a key and 249 (installed of course) for kit that doesn't. i opted for the latter. 299 and I can get a new single keyfob that does everything. not too shabby we'll see how it goes.

Getting remote start done? What are you having installed? what did you ask for?

told them I want my car to start w/remote. they said 199 installed gets a remote starter w/key required and 249 gets starter w/no spare key required:-)

Jet, Read my post above. The directed electronics website list the bypass module part # 1100F does not require a spare key when using it with any remote start system. They go for around $50. I ordered one tonight but I won't be able to install it after the 25th. I went with a remote start from asianwolf

What do you do about the PATS system?

That's what the extra key or bypass module is for.

what remote start would you recommend for my 00 v6 5spd?

Is it an 00 v6 5spd automatic, or an 00 v6 5spd manual?

manual

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought if you have a manual that Remote Starts will not work on them. You must have an automatic for a remote start kit to work..

there is a way to bypass the clutch iirc

last I knew you couldn't do it on a manual.

you "can" but many shops won't due to the liability. remember if you leave it in gear and hit that start button anything in front of you is in deep crap.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought if you have a manual that Remote Starts will not work on them. You must have an automatic for a remote start kit to work..
That's my understanding. It would have to override the clutch interlock, which would present a tremendous amount of liability for any manufacturer.

yeah it is a liability for a shop to do it but you can read online how to bypass the clutch. best thing to do is to look under the dash and see how the clutch engages (what makes contact with what) and figure out how you can have it always making contact. just remember to leave your ebrake on and your car in neutral. and make sure your ebrakes holds very well. i had a buddy of mine drive my car one day (89 5.0) and left it in gear and luckily he had the ebrake on and it just jumped a few times then quit trying to start.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought if you have a manual that Remote Starts will not work on them. You must have an automatic for a remote start kit to work..

Nick's right, it can't be done.

Maybe you can get JES_LS to swap your manual tranz for an automatic, and then install the remote start! :D

I do have an automatic... I was "just sayin" for the other guys F.Y.I... :) :) :)

Nick's right, it can't be done.

Maybe you can get JES_LS to swap your manual tranz for an automatic, and then install the remote start! :D

Actually, he's wrong and it CAN be done. It's just dangerous, but easy to do.

Key word: DANGEROUS!!! This is an idiotic idea. Why would you bypass the clutch? Really? Did everyone not read what Navi wrote? Is having a remote start THAT important???

yeah it is a liability for a shop to do it but you can read online how to bypass the clutch. best thing to do is to look under the dash and see how the clutch engages (what makes contact with what) and figure out how you can have it always making contact. just remember to leave your ebrake on and your car in neutral. and make sure your ebrakes holds very well. a buddy of mine drive my car one day (89 5.0) and left it in gear and luckily he had the ebrake on and it just jumped a few times then quit trying to start.

nick, right it is dangerous. I mentioned that early if you read the thread. My point is Todd (and maybe you, don't feel like rereading) said it "CAN'T" be done. That's incorrect.

nick, right it is dangerous. I mentioned that early if you read the thread. My point is Todd (and maybe you, don't feel like rereading) said it "CAN'T" be done. That's incorrect.
Actually, he said it had to be a slushbox for a Remote Start KIT to work. AFAIK, that is true--nobody makes a remote start kit for a manual transmission-equipped car.

But yes, you can make a remote start work on a manual transmission; it's just that nobody makes a kit for it (again, AFAIK).

I've been asking around via different sources and I've had two very respectable people come back to me w/ this answer.. So if the following is correct, then I stand corrected.

You NEED to get a MANUAL TRANS REMOTE START. I have made the mistake of installing auto trans remote start on an employee's vehicle they SWEAR they never leave in gear and when the thing took off across the street and took out a fence and neighbor's central air conditioning, guess who paid for it.... the company I worked for...not me of course. But anyway, that was best case scenario, what if it had hit a woman and baby in a stroller. Don't take the chance. Scytek and Ultrastart both make manual trans units that work VERY well. I have a Honda Accord with one on it and it works very well
Compustar units are built from the ground up for manual transmission vehicles.

UltraStart make a good unit for manual transmission


So there ya go... Scytek or Ultrastart or Compustar

So back to the original topic sort of, I just got my remote start installed.,...works great. And the key is to leave the seats on AUTO mode. Too bad it's 60 degrees here now. I'm all set w/my noisy snow tires and my remote start and winter has decided to skip columbus ohio lol

My wife had an remote starter installed in her Honda Civic. It is manual 5spd. If it is left in gear, the remote starter will not start the car.

Nick, I can make a remote start for an AT work on a MT very easily by simply closing the clutch interlock. Then it's up to the owner to ensure it's never left in gear when parked. But that is the wrong way to do it...and like said..it's dangerous. If you do that, your car's ECM thinks the clutch is depressed at all times and makes things goofy. You really screw the ECM's mind!! (disclaimer: there are some vehicles that use two switches on the clutch...one for starting and one for the ECM)

CobraLS's wife's car is the proper way to do it. If your tranny has a switch that indicates neutral (many of the newer ones do because the ECM needs this info) then you're in business. You simply use a relay in parallel with the clutch interlock circuit. Use the neutral indicator to activate the relay. Your remote start powers the circuit, reads the car is in neutral...which closes the clutch interlock relay, and the car starts. If it's not in neutral, the clutch interlock circuit is left open and it won't start.