Whats involved in swaping hubs. I hear people swap to cobra hubs? Does the cobra hub have the same mounting points as the stock hub assemb. does? first of all, whats the atvantage of runnin diffrent hubs, being able to run diffrent rims?

I would suspect that to be about the only advantage...
Probably just take the wheel bearings out, and...

The cobra hubs have a 4.5" bolt circle. I believe the MKVIII is 4.250"

A larger wheel selection is the only benefit.

A larger wheel selection is the only benefit.

i fancy the 03 cobra rims myself...so id needta do the swap if i were to get them, hua?

Whats involved in swaping hubs.

Front: You need 2 hubs, 2 hub retainers. You break the old retainer, slide the hubs off, slide the new ones on, torque to 220 ft./lbs., new rotors, done.

Rear: You need 2 hubs, 2 bearings, 2 hub retainers, 2 c-clip retainers. Mark the bushing positions, remove the hub retainer, remove three knucle bolts, use a jaw-puller to remove the knuckle, remove the rear c-clip retainer, use a hydraulic press to press the hubs outward, hydraulically press the hub bearning inward, press new bearnings and hubs, new c-clip, slide the assembly on, torque bolts, torque hub retainer to 200 ft./lbs. Re-drill rear rotors or make adapter to relocate the caliper if using 11.65 rotors. As you can tell, the rear section is a PITFA.

the cobra hub have the same mounting points as the stock hub assemb. does?

The hubs are 5x114.3mm. The Mark VIII and Cobra rotors are the same offset/ tickness- just a different bolt pattern. The rear rotors is where they differ; so you'll either have to re-drill the Mark VIII rotors to the 5x4.25 pattern, or make an adapter per the TCCoA article to run 11.65 rotors.

whats the atvantage of runnin diffrent hubs, being able to run diffrent rims?


More rims, bigger brakes, better looking, harder stopping.

i fancy the 03 cobra rims myself...so id needta do the swap if i were to get them, hua?
yep, you sure would.

Front: You need 2 hubs, 2 hub retainers. You break the old retainer, slide the hubs off, slide the new ones on, torque to 220 ft./lbs., new rotors, done.

Rear: You need 2 hubs, 2 bearings, 2 hub retainers, 2 c-clip retainers. Mark the bushing positions, remove the hub retainer, remove three knucle bolts, use a jaw-puller to remove the knuckle, remove the rear c-clip retainer, use a hydraulic press to press the hubs outward, hydraulically press the hub bearning inward, press new bearnings and hubs, new c-clip, slide the assembly on, torque bolts, torque hub retainer to 200 ft./lbs. Re-drill rear rotors or make adapter to relocate the caliper if using 11.65 rotors. As you can tell, the rear section is a PITFA.



The hubs are 5x114.3mm. The Mark VIII and Cobra rotors are the same offset/ tickness- just a different bolt pattern. The rear rotors is where they differ; so you'll either have to re-drill the Mark VIII rotors to the 5x4.25 pattern, or make an adapter per the TCCoA article to run 11.65 rotors.



More rims, bigger brakes, better looking, harder stopping.

fantastic.

220 ft/lbs? Thats alot!?

220 ft/lbs? Thats alot!?



not really but rember neaver use an impact on that

not really but rember neaver use an impact on that
Hey dertyclown where have you been?

For a minute there I thought Mr. Wilson was back.:p

220 ft/lbs? Thats alot!?




Thats the spec called by ford. Assures proper bearing preload.

Thanks everyone!

parts needed are....
1R3Z-1104-A frt hub/brg $77.58 list your cost $58.19 each
F3LY-3B477-A frt retainer $13.12 list your cost $9.84
FOSZ-4B477-A rear retainer $9.24 list your cost $6.93
M-1109-A rear hub $49.00 list your cost $42.00
M-1215-A rear brg $37.00 list your cost $30.00
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TOTAL both sides your cost $293.92 plus ups

I stock and sell this stuff all the time.
They are 4.50 mustang and the mark is as said 4.25 bolt circle.

Max Zuckerberg
Five Star Ford
Scottsdale Arizona
Parts Specialist
Direct 1-800-866-1520 ext 236
Fax 1-480-949-8478
parts@fivestarford.com

Hey Max thanks for the imput. I still have a seat for you at our Thanksgiving Dinner as you definitely are part of our family (talk to you often and always sending you money). LOL

Do I need a special tool to pull the old hub off?

Do I need a special tool to pull the old hub off?

Front; no. Rear; a puller is needed.

Thanks evillally!!

This is 1Wykdm8's swap page:

http://markviii.org/~1wykdmk8/rearhub.html

Front; no. Rear; a puller is needed.



Or a shop press.



I have always removed the entire spindle, and pressed the hub out from the back with an impact socket just small enough to slip through the bearing as it pushes the hub shaft out.

i fancy the 03 cobra rims myself...so id needta do the swap if i were to get them, hua?


Thats a NEGATIVE....03 Cobra SVT replicas are available for the MarkVIII/Tbirds/Cougars from my shop. Have a look...
http://www.sccoa.com/forums/showthread.php?t=83042


Brad