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Mark VIII Performance

mrlandyacht
July 27th, 2006, 03:58 PM
I'm curious...
approximately how much would it cost to get a 96 LSC to pump around 350-370 hp?

Calabrio
July 27th, 2006, 04:11 PM
Do you mean at the rear wheels or before the drivetrain?

evillally
July 27th, 2006, 04:17 PM
Between $7,500 and $12,000.

67Continental
July 27th, 2006, 04:18 PM
600 dollars for an n20 system. plus another 400 or so to upgrade your fuel system.

KainDTE
July 27th, 2006, 05:14 PM
Add the 1000$ to replace all the normal wear and tear stuff...

gangstaMK8
July 27th, 2006, 05:43 PM
Between $7,500 and $12,000.


he didnt say 450 - 500

MediumD
July 28th, 2006, 02:12 AM
Just hit it with a 75 shot, $100 for a walbro 255, $320 or so for a nitrous kit from eBay.

evillally
July 28th, 2006, 03:04 AM
Come on, N2O is no challenge. It's like atheletes using steroids- no fun for me, anyways.

Build a shortblock and blow 12psi through it :gr_devil:

mrlandyacht
July 28th, 2006, 10:03 AM
I meant 350-370 at the crank...
I'd prefer to keep it NA...(no NOS, or superchargers)
what about getting it to about 330 hp?
how much would I have to spend?

Calabrio
July 28th, 2006, 10:10 AM
Assuming you have 280-290 stock.
A chip, a new exhaust, and maybe some breathing improvements should about do it. That's not too difficult or expensive. Probably $1500.

mrlandyacht
July 28th, 2006, 10:28 AM
ok, that's about what I figured...
and I suppose if I wanted to wake it up even more, I could get 3.73's...

mrlandyacht
July 28th, 2006, 10:39 AM
are there underdrive pulley kits for Mark VIII's?
do they improve performance at all?

ONEBADMK8
July 28th, 2006, 10:55 AM
Just get the crank balancer pulley and NOT the 3 piece.

NJack2AF
July 28th, 2006, 10:57 AM
How much do you guys think it would cost to get 350 at the wheels? Assuming you are willing to put a blower on...

evillally
July 28th, 2006, 11:38 AM
How much do you guys think it would cost to get 350 at the wheels? Assuming you are willing to put a blower on...

See my above post.

what about getting it to about 330 hp?
how much would I have to spend?

Okay, that will fall into a more reasonable category.

330hp at the crank;

03 cobra heads ($1500 pair new stock)
03 Cobra cams ($500 a set for stock)
01 Cobra intake (ebay, $500)
Kooks headers ($600)
Custom tune ($500)

Of course, the transmission will definately need attention.

67Continental
July 28th, 2006, 12:11 PM
I don't think you need all that to get an additionall 50 hp - I think full exhaust and chip would be enough, no need to swap heads....

98LSC32V
July 28th, 2006, 01:10 PM
Don't run any kind of underdrive pulleys on your Mark VIII or any 4.6 DOHC for that matter. Overtime they break your oil pump gears. The 10 or so horsepower you gain is not worth it in the end because you might need an engine rebuild. With that said, I ran pulleys for over 50k miles with no problems but many others with Cobras have not been as lucky. It may have something to do with how high you rev it as well.

mrlandyacht
July 28th, 2006, 01:16 PM
thanks for the info, guys!
are all 96 Mark VIII's OBD II? or is it just the LSC models?

98LSC32V
July 28th, 2006, 01:18 PM
All 96-98 Mark VIII's base or LSC are OBD2.

04SSHD
July 28th, 2006, 01:59 PM
any 96 and newer car is OBD 2, per government standards.

mrlandyacht
July 28th, 2006, 02:42 PM
I also heard that some 95 LSC's are OBD 2...is that true?

evillally
July 28th, 2006, 03:25 PM
I also heard that some 95 LSC's are OBD 2...is that true?

Some late-model 1995's had some OBD-II components, but not all.

mrlandyacht
July 31st, 2006, 09:02 AM
ah, ok...
is it just as easy to chip a 93-95 mark VIII as a 96-98?

evillally
July 31st, 2006, 11:37 AM
ah, ok...
is it just as easy to chip a 93-95 mark VIII as a 96-98?

I've read that 93-94 respond better to chips than other model years.

MonsterMark
July 31st, 2006, 12:43 PM
The '93s were the fastest simply because they had the most aggressive tune coming from the factory. Then they backed off the tune in the '94-'96 years.

It is hard to say on the '97-'98 with the new intake design. 'Supposedly' they are not as effective in sucking air as the Gen 1. The factory still rated the motor the same as far as h.p. but that might have just been for convenience.

What we need is 2 'stock' Mark VIIIs from each vintage with corrected dynos to see where the numbers are really at.

mrlandyacht
August 10th, 2006, 11:14 AM
so...
93 or 96 are the best of the 1st gens?
BTW, how much crank HP do you guys think I would yield if I put on the 01 Cobra intake, 03 Cobra cams, custom tune, kooks headers and a cold air intake? roughly speaking...

MonsterMark
August 10th, 2006, 11:18 AM
so...
93 or 96 are the best of the 1st gens?
BTW, how much crank HP do you guys think I would yield if I put on the 01 Cobra intake, 03 Cobra cams, custom tune, kooks headers and a cold air intake? roughly speaking...

A '96 would be my choice because of the headlights.

275 rwhp give or take 10.

mrlandyacht
August 11th, 2006, 10:28 AM
ok, so that's about 340 at the crank...
what other cams are out there for 1st gen Mark VIII's? anything better than the Cobra cams that won't cost more than like 1200 bucks?
sorry for all the questions, but I'm just trying to do some research...

Dr. Paul
August 11th, 2006, 11:12 AM
What we need is 2 'stock' Mark VIIIs from each vintage with corrected dynos to see where the numbers are really at.

My 100% stock 98 LSC put down 228 rwhp, and I even have video of it showing the curves.

MonsterMark
August 11th, 2006, 11:48 AM
My 100% stock 98 LSC put down 228 rwhp, and I even have video of it showing the curves.
Can you get a screen capture off the video?

That would be good info to post up. Your numbers are dead on. That is what a 1st Gen, (cough, cough) puts out stock.

Dr. Paul
August 11th, 2006, 12:21 PM
Can you get a screen capture off the video?

That would be good info to post up. Your numbers are dead on. That is what a 1st Gen, (cough, cough) puts out stock.

I've been trying this for the last 10 or so minutes. For some reason when I paste the screen from Windows Media Player into Paint, then save it, it only shows black? :confused:

If somebody has an FTP, I can upload the video. I can't email it cuz it's 23 megs.

Paul.

mrlandyacht
February 8th, 2007, 03:45 PM
is it possible to have the stock intake ported? on any mark VII?
would it make the same difference as putting on the 01 Cobra intake?

kustomizingkid
February 8th, 2007, 04:20 PM
Driller I believe had his stock intake completley worked over. I think the inside had some prting and lots of polishing and the outside was completley pollished.

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