And it's due out in 2007, one year earlier than last stated.

http://www.motortrend.com/future/concept_cars/112_0603_lincoln_mks/

Looks like a BMW, but I like the interior.

Looks like a BMW, but I like the interior.

not necessarily a bad thing... I personally think it looks like an Acura RL.

Engine may be the Yamaha V-8, or as I recall from a survey on their website, 300hp twin turbo V-6.

Looks to me like a Zephyr.

Looks to me like a Zephyr.

I would agree, with that photo anyway. We need more photos to get a better feel for the car. It had better be awesome since it is going to replace the LS.

personally i think it looks like the new 5series got down with the RL.

^ Just go to Lincoln's website.

Its unAmerican, Yamaha! 4.4, at least put a 4.6 Cobra? in it. Lincoln will or allready is rolling over in his grave!

That article is from April. Good grief, the specs for the car have been in the press for months. I have press kits for the MKS that have the same (and more) pictures and much more detail. This is all old news.

And as far as being "Official", don't believe everything you read in the car rags. I do not believe Ford/Lincoln has ever stated that the MKS is the "official" replacement for the LS.

http://lincoln.com/reachhigher/

That looks pretty "official" to me.

definately looks like a Bimmer.... MKX is hideous

wow, the MKS is pretty sweet looking!!!! Time to start saving! :D

Looks like a BMW.

That's what I thought when I first laid eyes on the LS...

2007 ... I was at a ford dealership and they already have 2007 models out.

I think they mean released in 2007

This is awsome that its coming out in 07. I read some where that the car should do 0-60 in 5.5 sec.
BTW thanks captainalias, for updating us on these things

Its unAmerican, Yamaha! 4.4, at least put a 4.6 Cobra? in it. Lincoln will or allready is rolling over in his grave!


unAmerican...hehe. Obviously someone who has no concept of international production lines. GM makes more than 55% of its $ overseas and Ford just opened its BIGGEST production plant in Mexico following suit in the relocation of production plants to where the resources are (i.e. raw materials, cheap labor, etc.)

If you mean "unAmerican" is in "not made in America" then you most not own very many things...

Correct me if I'm wrong?

P.S. SHO?

P.S.S.
SIX SPEED AUTO! AWD! 300HP+!

http://lincoln.com/reachhigher/

That looks pretty "official" to me.

For your sake, I sure hope they offer remedial reading class at NYU. :eek:

I said "I do not believe Ford/Lincoln has ever stated that the MKS is the "official" replacement for the LS."

Here's the Ford press release on the MKS, which contains just about everything Ford has said about the MKS. This has been out since January, btw.

http://media.ford.com/products/press_article_display.cfm?article_id=22294&vehicle_id=1372&make_id=93&CFID=2253435&CFTOKEN=d0a04ea19a0a1336-ABD3EFFC-1185-6933-5DAE906E270E170D&jsessionid=5830c67ff046T$F7$EBL

Where does it say the MKS is the replacement for the LS?

Answer: It doesn't.

The MKS looks like a great car, but its not going to be what the LS is now. IMHO, it is somewhere between the LS and the most recent Continental.

God that interior is old manish. Maybe it'll look better in black...

Ph, and the MKX is the ugliest thing I've ever seen.

I don't like to looks of it from the sides or rear. It looks to bulky in the back. Also I don't care for the sunroofs. I would rather see a removable hardtop on a 4 door than the huge glass on top, of course either one would be silly. But I've thought I didn't like cars in the past, but when I saw them in person, my mind changed quickly. Maybe this will happen again when I see this car.

That means the transverse-mounted, 315-horse Yamaha-built 4.4-liter V-8 under the hood


Hmm sounds like SHO motor to me.... Best of both worlds :D

I just wish my 3.4L had more the 235 hp.

Hmm sounds like SHO motor to me.... Best of both worlds :D
I just wish my 3.4L had more the 235 hp.
The 4.4L V8 (which is currently in the Volvo XC90) is supposed to be an evolution of the Ford/Yamaha Yamaha V8 in the last SHOs.

As for the Un-American comment... You mean it's not all-American, like the JAGUAR block in the V8 LS? :rolleyes:

I like the look, but it is FWD/AWD. I HATE FWD based cars!! GM is finally catching on and is converting Pontiac to a host of RWD cars and now Lincoln is eliminating the RWD LS for a FWD car AND axing the town car after next year.

I love the way it looks, I hope they don't mess it up like they did with the Zephyr. The Zephyr's prototype was a sweet lookin car until they made the production version.

The MKS in that form looks real nice though, I wouldn't mind drivin one.


Also the Navigator and the other "SUV" are really, really UGLY!

What car do you think the Ford designers are modelling out of clay here? The Ford concept sedan appeared in the latest episode of the automaker's "Bold Moves" documentary.

http://images.leftlanenews.com/content/1-jul26-myst.jpg

somehow couldn't edit my post to fit this in.

Anyhow, Ford is also working on a retro styled RWD sedan (a bit too late for the party?) to be sold in 2008, according to Newsweek.

If this car is released right away, I am going to be very very upset with myself for buying an Acura. This is EXACTLY the kind of car I was looking for. I hope it hits a home run.

As to the MKX, I think it's basically a Volvo...and those are pretty popular too. I wouldn't trade my Aviator for it...but I think they will sell them a lot better than they did Aviators.

The MKS, looks like the G35 Sedan... a lot.

The 4.4L V8 (which is currently in the Volvo XC90) is supposed to be an evolution of the Ford/Yamaha Yamaha V8 in the last SHOs.

As for the Un-American comment... You mean it's not all-American, like the JAGUAR block in the V8 LS? :rolleyes:

SoonerLS,

I believe I read somewhere that Volvo, denies any conection between motors, but if you look at the cutaway... I sear I was looking at my SHO motor, but with VVT (Not sure of right term). THey are both I think 60deg V8's also.

Mac

As to the MKX, I think it's basically a Volvo.
The MKX is a Lincoln, based on the CD3 (Mazda6) platform. Mazda created the platform, but Ford and Lincoln created the crossover variant.

The MKS is the Lincoln based on the Volvo-derived D3 platform.

If Ford thinks going back to FWD in a luxury/performance sedan is a "bold move" then my "bold move" into a Cadillac, Chrysler, or German (Mercedes,BMW) dealership when I need to replace my LS will make their heads spin.

They can shove this MKS up their A$$

If Ford thinks going back to FWD in a luxury/performance sedan is a "bold move" then my "bold move" into a Cadillac, Chrysler, or German (Mercedes,BMW) dealership when I need to replace my LS will make their heads spin.

They can shove this MKS up their A$$

Currently, the MkS design is set up for all-wheel drive. But I agree, FWD for me is out of the question.

Currently, the MkS design is set up for all-wheel drive. But I agree, FWD for me is out of the question.

It is a transeverse AWD application. If it were longitudinal like AUDI I would feel differently about it (Weight distribution)

I've read that the new MKZ (restyled zephyer) is suppose to appeal to V6 LS owners and the MKS should appeal to V8 LS owners. Of course that was car magizine speculation. However the specs on the MKZ are 263 hp and 240 ft/lb torque (according to various magizines). No to shappy for a V6. But I also read the the MKS might be a replacement for the Town Car. I don't think anything is offical yet.

I was talking to my salesman at the local dealership. Anyways we were talking about the Zeyphers and 3.5 they are suppose to be getting. I told him I might be interested in one next year. I also asked him about the MKS and he said they might have some on the lot by November. He told me to wait though. I asked why and he said that in about 3-4 years there is talk of bring the LS back. I don't know if that is true but I never heard of a salesman turning down a possible sale. He knows I really like my LS he sold me and has been pretty good to me. He knows I like sportier cars and I can't think of any reason for him to tell me a story. So I think there is some truth behind what he is saying. Has anyone else heard this rumor?

Is that RWD clay supposed to be the design on the new aus falcon chassis that we MIGHT get?

as for the MKS,
I think it is too blocky and chunky for my likeing, but I will hold back until I see it in the steel.
I'm okay with the FWD/AWD drive as long as FMC doesn't get stupid and try to sell only the FWD models for the first six months (like the 500's).

I'm not okay with the damn six speed automatic. I don't buy new cars with automatics. So I guess the next family type sedan I buy won't be an American car unless ford gets that new falcon based chassis up here toot sweet.

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I'm not okay with the damn six speed automatic. I don't buy new cars with automatics. So I guess the next family type sedan I buy won't be an American car unless ford gets that new falcon based chassis up here toot sweet.

There's NO WAY Lincoln will put a manual transmission in the MKS. JES, maybe you can do a tranny swap on the MKS AWD. Start saving your pennies!

And we're still waiting for the LS trans swap for your car, JES. When are you going to Start/Finish this project?? We've been waiting for over a year now. What gives?

There's NO WAY Lincoln will put a manual transmission in the MKS. JES, maybe you can do a tranny swap on the MKS AWD. Start saving your pennies!

And we're still waiting for the LS trans swap for your car, JES. When are you going to Start/Finish this project?? We've been waiting for over a year now. What gives?
Got blindsided by life.
was laid off from primary job.
Had a consulting client stiff me for a huge chunk of $$ and then bad mouth me to his piers.
Needed to focus on finishing my Karate training for my first degree black belt.
Nearly lost my wife to a friggin spider bite.

so with all that I've been to busy (and cash poor) to buy the rest of the pieces to pull the trans out of the ls and swap it.

But if I have to spend a couple of several hundred on the sst trans, I might just be able to mortgage the beer budget and get the swap moving.

Latest news from Ford honcho Mark Fields, MKS will be a 2008 sedan.

Here's an updated side pic.

http://www.blogsmithmedia.com/www.autoblog.com/media/2006/08/lincolnmks_side-small.jpg

they say that the MKS was restyled again.

TRAVERSE CITY -- Ford Motor Co. is expected to announce today that it's revving up its product development efforts with two new vehicles -- the Lincoln MKS flagship sedan and the Ford Shelby GT, a new high-performance Mustang.

Mark Fields, president of Ford's Americas group, will discuss the new models at the Management Briefing Seminars, an annual conference in Traverse City organized by Ann Arbor's Center for Automotive Research. In addition, Fields will promise that Ford will roll out nine new models in the next six months, most of which have already been announced. Fields is clearly hoping to quiet critics who question whether the company has enough new vehicles in the pipeline. The pledge for nine new vehicles includes the Ford Shelby GT, but not the Lincoln MKS, which won't go on sale until 2008.

"When we talk about acceleration at Ford, that includes more new products, features and technologies throughout our lineup," Fields said in a statement. "We are rebuilding our business for the future with an emphasis on more new products faster."

The MKS will be Lincoln's new full-size flagship sedan. It will be built on the same platform as the Ford Five Hundred and Mercury Montego sedans that are built in Chicago, but it features a sleeker and more powerful design. "The Lincoln MKS will take Lincoln craftsmanship and comfort beyond anything we've built before," Fields said. "Its design communicates power, motion and speed, and it will be packed with more technology and features than any Lincoln before it."

The new sedan will also feature a panoramic vista roof. While Ford would not provide any details of the powertrain, the production concept it showed at the North American International Auto Show in Detroit in January boasted an all-aluminum, 4.4-liter, 315-horsepower, V-8 engine paired with a new six-speed all-wheel-drive automatic transmission.

The production model is quite similar to the prototype but has been given a cleaner, more aerodynamic design. "It looks far less Japanese," said Jim Hall, an analyst with AutoPacific in Southfield, who has seen the new Lincoln. He said it could prove a big hit for Ford if offered with the right combination of price and powertrain.
"This is probably one of the most attractive offerings Lincoln has had in some time," said Erich Merkle, a brand analyst with IRN Inc. in Grand Rapids. "It's going to appeal to a younger audience." The new Lincoln MKS will face stiff competition from other new luxury cars debuting around the same time -- notably the redesigned Cadillac CTS.

The MKS effectively replaces the larger Lincoln Town Car that has been largely relegated to the livery fleet market in recent years.
The Town Car, which is based on a decades-old platform, is still produced at Ford's Wixom Assembly Plant, but the company has no plans to transfer it to another facility when that plant is idled next year as part of the company's North American restructuring. Ford would not comment on its future plans for the Town Car, but Ford spokeswoman Sara Tatchio said the new MKS "makes a great team with the MKZ," a redesigned and renamed version of the current Zephyr midsize sedan that will debut later this year. It will be the first vehicle to use Ford's new Duratech 35 V-6 engine. Two more new Lincolns are slated to go on sale this fall. The redesigned Navigator large sport utility vehicle will be in showrooms in September, followed by the all-new MKX crossover utility vehicle in November. An even bigger version of the Navigator, the Navigator L, will go on sale in December. Lincoln has been on the rebound. Its sales were up 8 percent for the first half of 2006, largely due to the success of the Zephyr, which was introduced last fall and is bringing a younger buyer to the marque. But analysts say Lincoln still has a long way to go to reclaim its former position as America's best-selling luxury brand.

"They just neglected Lincoln for so long," Merkle said. "They have lost a lot of ground." The Detroit News first disclosed details of the Ford Shelby GT on Aug. 3. The car is a retail version of the Ford GT-H, a high-performance version of the Mustang sports car developed by Ford Racing and Carroll Shelby's legendary customization shop for Hertz. The 4.6-liter, 325-horsepower Mustang will go on sale in January.

"We know the combination of Mustang and Shelby is magic, and we proved it again when we revealed the Ford Shelby GT-H for Hertz. The car received such rave reviews that our dealers and customers asked for a version of their own," Fields said.

Also coming from Ford in the next six months:

All-wheel-drive versions of the Ford Fusion and Mercury Milan.
An F-150 pickup with increased towing capacity.
The Ford Edge midsize crossover vehicle.
A new Ford Expedition large SUV and an Expedition EL, a longer version of the vehicle.
Separately Tuesday, Ford's vice president for manufacturing in the Americas, Dave Szczupak, told analysts at the JP Morgan/Harbour Automotive Conference in Dearborn that Ford plans to build at least four new vehicles off the same platform used for its Ford Five Hundred sedan.

The vehicles include the MKS, another sedan and two for "future unique segments." One of those could be the Ford Fairlane, a new vehicle that will eventually replace minivans in Ford's lineup. Ford showed the Fairlane concept two years ago at the Detroit auto show.

well if that other sedan metioned at the end of Capt'n post is not the rumored Left hand drive version of the next Aussie falcon, then I guess its the end of the line for me and ford.
I have been ford man since before I could drive, but if they pull their collective heads out of the marketing morons asses, I guess I'll have to buy european.

Chrysler knows it,
GM is starting to figure it out,
The japanese are building more everyday,

What is it that I'm refering to.
A "full size" sedan with front engine rear wheel drive (or rear wheel expanded to AWD) car with a manual transmission and comfortable seating for 4.5 people.

They can keep the rest of the front wheel drive crap and the awd variants. None of them are worth a dime to me.

RWD/AWD and a manual or no deal, there is no price point negoitation. Free would not even do it for me.

BMW- AUDI- Subaru- Saab- and a couple of others are all that is left on the 'new' car list, and will probably own the list until Ford wakes up and stops screwing their loyal customer base out of choices because of marketing people

Latest news from Ford honcho Mark Fields, MKS will be a 2008 sedan.

Here's an updated side pic.

http://www.blogsmithmedia.com/www.autoblog.com/media/2006/08/lincolnmks_side-small.jpg

Well that looks better from that angle, but it still a FWD/AWD POS.

Here It Is
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lincoln needs to build a freaking coupe or roadster.... or.... even a rally lincoln....lmao

well if that other sedan metioned at the end of Capt'n post is not the rumored Left hand drive version of the next Aussie falcon, then I guess its the end of the line for me and ford.
I have been ford man since before I could drive, but if they pull their collective heads out of the marketing morons asses, I guess I'll have to buy european.

Chrysler knows it,
GM is starting to figure it out,
The japanese are building more everyday,

What is it that I'm refering to.
A "full size" sedan with front engine rear wheel drive (or rear wheel expanded to AWD) car with a manual transmission and comfortable seating for 4.5 people.

They can keep the rest of the front wheel drive crap and the awd variants. None of them are worth a dime to me.

RWD/AWD and a manual or no deal, there is no price point negoitation. Free would not even do it for me.

BMW- AUDI- Subaru- Saab- and a couple of others are all that is left on the 'new' car list, and will probably own the list until Ford wakes up and stops screwing their loyal customer base out of choices because of marketing people
Ditto

Here's some additional pictures of the MKS:

http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do/FVDP/Photos/styleId=100686855

You can see the similarity to the new 2007 Volvo S80:

http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do/FVDP/Photos/styleId=100531772

http://a332.g.akamai.net/f/332/936/12h/www.edmunds.com//pictures/VEHICLE/2008/Lincoln/100686855/20031382-E.jpg

Side Looks like Lexus es300

^ That's hot.

Looks like an Acura to me...

If I could stand the styling and I did not break out in a rash every time someone says to me "I think you should go by a GM product", I'd try and snag teh Caddy cts v (or whatever they are calling it now).

So I guess its going to be a BMW 3 series or 5 series for me at the next new purchase.

Is that a vent near the mirror on the fender? :confused:

http://a332.g.akamai.net/f/332/936/12h/www.edmunds.com//pictures/VEHICLE/2008/Lincoln/100686855/20031382-E.jpg

Side Looks like Lexus es300

You mean a Camry?;)

okay say it with me Kellyo
Fa- Uh- Ga- LE- EE

Can you say Toyota wanna be.

now I ask you If I wanted a toyota, why would I even consider a MKS.

Hello Bimmer.

You mean a Camry?;)

haha.. i cant knock on it too badly, cuz thats what my mom is drivin.. Its a nice car, nice interior.. But i hate the exterior.. like u said, camry

BTW.. i also plan on gettin a BMW after this LS is over with... this is my first domestic car, and im not impressed with all the problems

BTW.. i also plan on gettin a BMW after this LS is over with... this is my first domestic car, and im not impressed with all the problems

Well this will probably be my last US brand auto.
Shame really, I've been fairly faithful to Ford's all along, even buying euro-fords when they were something worth having, but now all ford seems to know is making trucks,suv and the mustang, the rest is becoming Sh_te

i like the mks but i'm not sure i'll buy another us car. this is my first american car and i'm not impressed. i love the styling of the mks and ls but their quality isnt worth the price tag. i'm going bimmer also for my next car.