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Someone explain IMRCs to me

MrWilson
May 4th, 2006, 10:15 AM
What is the point of the imrc's? What exactly do they serve to do? Is it like opening the secondaries on a carb, when they open up? and is there any way to manually control when they open? (say, if you want that extra punch when your on the strip....i heard theres a lever or something at the rear of the intake that controls them, rubberbands on them?)

67Continental
May 4th, 2006, 11:27 AM
there is no "extra punch" to having them open all the time, you will lose low end torque. There is a design reason why they only open at high rpm, and that is because that is where they will make more power. Don't forget, and engine is a system, and someone took a lot of time to design it to work as a system. It's not usually a "if this was on all the time we would have more power" situation. Sure there are compromises, but in this case, the compromise is closing them for low end torque.

Grifter
May 4th, 2006, 12:21 PM
you can have TOO MUCH airflow at low RPM, which kills torque. the velocity of the air drops due to the increase in volume. so ford put a plate on there, like you said. to act something like the secondaries on a 4bbl carb. they only open when the engine is at th point of needing more air, and drawing in air fast enough to keep up the volocity.

MrWilson
May 4th, 2006, 12:23 PM
there is no "extra punch" to having them open all the time, you will lose low end torque. There is a design reason why they only open at high rpm, and that is because that is where they will make more power. Don't forget, and engine is a system, and someone took a lot of time to design it to work as a system. It's not usually a "if this was on all the time we would have more power" situation. Sure there are compromises, but in this case, the compromise is closing them for low end torque.

my understanding of imrcs are that they will give you more power nomatter when they are open, the reason they arent open all the time is because it would hurt the motor if they were. Atleast, this is my understanding.

MonsterMark
May 4th, 2006, 12:31 PM
Atleast, this is my understanding. And you would be wrong.:shifty: ;)

MrWilson
May 4th, 2006, 12:46 PM
you can have TOO MUCH airflow at low RPM, which kills torque. the velocity of the air drops due to the increase in volume. so ford put a plate on there, like you said. to act something like the secondaries on a 4bbl carb. they only open when the engine is at th point of needing more air, and drawing in air fast enough to keep up the volocity.

k, sounds logical to me.

MonsterMark
May 4th, 2006, 12:59 PM
Ask any guy that did a IMRC delete and they will tell you they have a dog off the line. You pick up a little bit on the top end simply because you have removed the plates inside the intake tract that cause some interference with the flow.

driller
May 4th, 2006, 03:10 PM
Ask any guy that did a IMRC delete and they will tell you they have a dog off the line.

Unless you have boost and/or 4.56 gears. :cool:

Grifter
May 4th, 2006, 03:24 PM
or a 3500 stall and gears..
the imrc's let you make the most power when they open at 3250 as set from the factory. we played around with opening them sooner/later on the dyno with Chris J. from SCT, and the stock setting made the most power.

chickenviii
May 4th, 2006, 03:51 PM
bascially your intake has 2 different runner lengths for low or high rpm all the imrc's do is determine what runner you use depending what you need the car to do

driller
May 4th, 2006, 05:52 PM
the imrc's let you make the most power when they open at 3250 as set from the factory.

That explains the little squigglies at 3250 on my dynochart!

http://photos.imageevent.com/driller/dynoday/websize/100_1598.JPG

Here I thought the factory setting was 3000 rpm and there was a delayed reaction going on.

Grifter
May 4th, 2006, 08:11 PM
yep.. the little turbulence created by the imrc's when they open.

Moes8
May 5th, 2006, 04:35 AM
That explains the little squigglies at 3250 on my dynochart!

http://photos.imageevent.com/driller/dynoday/websize/100_1598.JPG

Here I thought the factory setting was 3000 rpm and there was a delayed reaction going on.


holy bananas,Ford wasnt lying back in 1993 when they said the "new" 4.6 had a "flat" torque curve,i cant believe how that torque is almost linear across the rev range,cool stuff.
what is done to the motor in that dyno run(compared to stock)?

driller
May 5th, 2006, 08:49 AM
Stock motor with bolt-ons.

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