Ok - the kooks headers are in. Catalytic Converters are next. They'll be tig welded in tomorrow. That'll complete the header install.

Next are 4.10 gears, denny's driveshaft and a torque converter. After that, it gets a custom dyno tune. All in time for Carlisle. (Link to Carlisle Info (http://www.lincolnvscadillac.com/calendar.php?do=getinfo&e=28&day=2006-6-2))

envious man.. envious..
i want to see some numbers! :D

The progress looks good Godfather :cool:

How bad did you have to bend up the cylinder #8 pipe to get around the steering knuckle?

I also was wondering about the steering knuckle.... I thought it had to be changed??

I also was wondering about the steering knuckle.... I thought it had to be changed??

Apparently it's a Gen2 thing.

Looks good. Have to say it looks like a tight fit and probably takes some patience and time to get those things in there with scatching the crap out of them. Thats what makes it so sweet when completed.

Look's great Godfather....:Beer :Beer :wrench

Look's great Godfather....:Beer :Beer :wrench


thanks - should be more pics tomorrow...

Looks good joey!


this is gonna be one helluva trip.


Between my 95 with 2.5" and 4.10's and yours, this is gonna be a loud trip.

Ok - they're in!

Headers, high flow cats, all new O2 sensors as well. Sound is awsome, and I can FEEL the power difference. Next, torque converter, driveshaft and 4.10s

Things are looking good...

How bad did you have to bend up the cylinder #8 pipe to get around the steering knuckle?


They slipped right in. No obstructions. Pulling the K Member is the only way to do this IMO.

Things are looking good...




They slipped right in. No obstructions. Pulling the K Member is the only way to do this IMO.
I agree on pulling the K-member.....:cool: looks awesome Joey, I wish kooks headers were around when I put my Motorsport shorty's in.

Thanks. SO far so good. No CE light. :D

I gotta figure out how to dampen the sound from the drivers compartment a bit mire though. Cant hear my stereo too well :D :D

You'll get use to it.

Thanks. SO far so good. No CE light. :D

I gotta figure out how to dampen the sound from the drivers compartment a bit mire though. Cant hear my stereo too well :D :D
try some FatMat.

try some FatMat.

Is there a reason for fatmat over dynamat?

Hope you ran it before you hooked up the mufflers. AAHHHThe sound of open headers.............:shifty: :shifty:

Is there a reason for fatmat over dynamat?
It's cheaper and thicker than Dynamat.

It's cheaper and thicker than Dynamat.


But do we know if its better for sound insulation? Thicker isnt always better. (no jokes please) :)

But do we know if its better for sound insulation? Thicker isnt always better. (no jokes please) :) :lol: Lol!!! Joey, go to www.fatmat.com to learn more about their excellent product, I swear by this stuff. it is better and cheaper than DynaMat which in it's own right is a good product too. but I'm all about saving money when and where I can. so I can spend it on stuff like 1100.00 dollar HID headlights Lol!!! :D... in all fairness here is www.dynamat.com too.

I already have dynamat in the rear of the car (under back seats and in trunk)

Im looking for something that I can also put under the seats, in doors, maybe on the underside of the trunk (right above the exhaust) Fatmat may be a good option.

Also - it has been suggested that I have the entire exhaust coated - any thoughts on this? I dont think there would be any performance gains, but it might be worth considering.

Fatmat is the way to go joey.


If you wanted to go a step further, pull the dash, and the carpet, and have a truck bed liner sprayed in the subflooring. It'll help more than you can imagine.


Mike

Throw a bigger amp and speakers in and call it good. :p

Coating the whole exhaust is not worth the money.


Joey, you said they were gonna TIG the exhaust, that looks like just a normal MIG job? (although, it is much harder to TIG on the car)

Paul.

Throw a bigger amp and speakers in and call it good. :p


simple :)

Ya, just keep on adding more and more weight. Soon, the headers will be wash. Then you could put on some heavy-ass 20" rims and really slow that pig down.

Coating the cats-back part of the exhaust won't do anything for performance but if you want people under your car, it can't hurt the bling factor.

If it's too loud, change mufflers to a quieter performance one. Loud doesn't equal fast.

Looks good, though. I don't envy you haveing to work on that thing!!

If it's too loud, change mufflers to a quieter performance one. Loud doesn't equal fast.


It's not just the mufflers. With the Kooks headers I have more 'under the car' noise from the exhaust. The noise at the rear actually sounds good!

I can't wait 'til I do electric cut-outs to see what the 'under the car' noise levels are! :D

I can't wait 'til I do electric cut-outs to see what the 'under the car' noise levels are! :D


Got emissions here - so I cant gut the cats

Got emissions here - so I cant gut the cats

Lucky me, no cats.

I'm talking electric exhaust cutouts, like this setup...

http://www.mojavedesertclassics.com/CUTOUTS47.jpg

It's not just the mufflers. With the Kooks headers I have more 'under the car' noise from the exhaust. The noise at the rear actually sounds good!

I can't wait 'til I do electric cut-outs to see what the 'under the car' noise levels are! :D

It will scare your buddies with Camaros and Stangs... :D

Lucky me, no cats.

I'm talking electric exhaust cutouts, like this setup...

http://www.mojavedesertclassics.com/CUTOUTS47.jpg
I used to have a set of those on my Mustang.

Got emissions here - so I cant gut the cats
get a po box anywhere west of Aurora, even Sugar Grove (5 min west) and register the car there then.............................................. .................................................. .....poof no more emissions:D

And....Here is a sound clip..... Kooks Headers (http://www.lincolnvscadillac.com/joey/headers.wmv)

Going to the dyno saturday.

After the gears go in, I'll be getting it custom tuned and the sound should improve quite a bit.

:cool: sounds hella gnarly Joey!!! I likey!!!! :headbang: :headbang:

Thanks. Its running real rich. The tune should take care of that.

yeah I noticed that, so does mine....

Bitchin'!!!

Looks and sounds great Joey!!!

I used to have a set of those on my Mustang.

Did they help? :rolleyes:

where can i get a set of kooks headers? where was your source.

Dayummmm with that sound you should take first place at Carlisle. :cool:

where can i get a set of kooks headers? where was your source.


Kooks only sells them to Super Coupe Performance.

joey what mike said about the bed liner you would get a lot of fumes from the higher heat off the headers for a while so check this out before trying that. looking good and remenber who helped install it, as far a sound deading try stuffing a couple of bodys under the carpet but that would be dead weight. just what you needed a wise a-- . take care and see you before carlyle. jd

Are you going to the track after your trip to the dyno?

Are you going to the track after your trip to the dyno?


Yup


Oh, and Monstermark came by today to inspect the work... :)

Gears came in - waiting on the Torque Converter and Driveshaft still....

I hope he approved Lol!! :cool: :cool:

I would really like to here it with out the mufflers also.I bet that would set off car alarms with straits.Cool.:D

I wouldnt even think about straight pipes - emmissions would suspend my license LOL

Yup


Oh, and Monstermark came by today to inspect the work... :)

Gears came in - waiting on the Torque Converter and Driveshaft still....
so,who is who in this picture?

i have an idea,but enlighten me please.

That is the MonsterMark one of the administrators here on LVC. Joey the progress looks good, looking foward to more updates, since my plane will land in Chicago on July 13th for the meet in Boscobel I am looking forward to finally getting a chance to meet you. :cool:

That is the MonsterMark one of the administrators here on LVC. Joey the progress looks good, looking foward to more updates, since my plane will land in Chicago on July 13th for the meet in Boscobel I am looking forward to finally getting a chance to meet you. :cool:


Kool - Me Too@!

BIGDADDY!!!!! SWEET!!!! I can't wait to feel them in Carlisle!!!!

Curious, how much do those babies weigh? and the damping (which ever you chose) how much does that weigh? I've neer seen it, but it would have to be some pretty THICK stuff to keep that lovely growl outside and not in....hey, wait a minute....will the damping also take out the vibration....may want to re-think that idea BIGDADDY!!!! heheh

Moes, MM is leaning on the hood, looking hot as ever - HI HOTTIE, SMOOCH! Nice pic too HOTTIES. Why don't you take another pic when you got your Mark up again of your lovely pipes and you under there with them and post in the Guys Guys Guys thread for me...making me drewl thinkin about it!!!!

When do you get your gears?

Ok....as hard as it is...Im leaving the thicker comment alone....it's killin me...but can't leave this one alone...what happened at the track?

The only thing I didn't like about running mine is it took 2-3 hours to clean him back up again...dust all under the hood, some rubber up on the rear..dang it!

SMOOCHES !!!!

MsM8

I got somewhat lucky today as my friend who is a mechanic at a garage had a 93" Mark in for some problems. It would fall on it's face when you floored in neutral and my friend had just put on the pass side cat because it had failed. Now I know you should replace the entire pipe assembly but they were going the cheap route and had him cut out the one car and weld in another.

Well the car still had problems and it wound up being the center cat was now clogged up with the pass side cat. So he cut out the center cat and of course had to lower the car so we could hear it open exhaust.

Even tho it was through manifolds it sounded great! I am sponsored by QuickTime Performance with my WRX and I have one of his Electric cutouts on my car. I love the thing cause I can really screw with people with it and then go back to muffled at the flick of a switch :D

When do you get your gears?


Got em - waitin on the driveshaft. They should go in next week....


Ok....as hard as it is...Im leaving the thicker comment alone....it's killin me...but can't leave this one alone...


I thought you preferred thicker....


The only thing I didn't like about running mine is it took 2-3 hours to clean him back up again...dust all under the hood, some rubber up on the rear..dang it!



I just take mine to my detailer..


So, I have the torque converter, gears and trac loc.... Waiting for the driveshaft still. I couldnt just sit around........ Soooooo... I did this...

Are you gettin' some touch up work done on your ride Godfather? :cool:

Are you gettin' some touch up work done on your ride Godfather? :cool:


Just a little :)

Joey's trying to look like Mike! (94m5)....

Joey I don't see you in your painting outfit painting your car? Why not!

Joey's trying to look like Mike! (94m5)....

Joey I don't see you in your painting outfit painting your car? Why not!


Because I want it to look right! Im no painter.

Just getting rid of door dings, rock chips, etc... I got something special coming as well.. :)

Yup


Oh, and Monstermark came by today to inspect the work... :)

Gears came in - waiting on the Torque Converter and Driveshaft still....

Dang Bryan's looking jealous!!! LOL... Where is that Big MonsterMark??

Dang Bryan's looking jealous!!! LOL... Where is that Big MonsterMark??



Vegas I believe -

I'm talking about his infamous Monster Mark VIII... Not the Man himself...

Why Rich you want to buy a Gen 2 Mark VIII. :D

FANTASTIC! Looks and sounds so unbeliveable! How much did the whole exhaust setup run ya? headers, hi-flos, exhaust, mufflers, install, all that good stuff. somethin round 2k?

FANTASTIC! Looks and sounds so unbeliveable! How much did the whole exhaust setup run ya? headers, hi-flos, exhaust, mufflers, install, all that good stuff. somethin round 2k?


Headers and cats were $1100 + install --- Geno had already installed the catback exhaust

Headers and cats were $1100 + install --- Geno had already installed the catback exhaust

so yea, like 2200, damn, exhaust is expeeeeeeeeeeensive but soooo worth it IMO. Cant wait to hear it in person at carlisle!

Joey's trying to look like Mike! (94m5)....

Joey I don't see you in your painting outfit painting your car? Why not!





I did'nt PAINT mine. Thats the only thing I don't trust myself enough to do. I have 1800 invested in paint alone, and did'nt feel like sanding it off to get the runs out of it.


BTW.... They are/did take the plate bracket off before they painted it, right?

BTW.... They are/did take the plate bracket off before they painted it, right?


Of course. I kinda added to the job halfway through - Thats why the ehadlights are still on in the first few pics, I was originally gonna just do the hood, BUT -- well, you know how it goes.

Well, got all the parts now.....

Torque Converter (3200 stall)
Denny's Driveshaft
4.10 Gears (and rear rebuild kit with trac loc)
High Performance Polyurethane Rear Spindle Bushing KitSO, sometime next week I hope, Ill take it all in and have it installed.....

Tell me about it.


I've got 4X the ammount of money in the 95' that I originally planned on.


I can't wait to see your car with the new mods Joe. BTW.... Are you installing these to be able to keep up with me in the 95?

I can't wait to see your car with the new mods Joe. BTW.... Are you installing these to be able to keep up with me in the 95?


Hmmm..... I thought thats why you were doin the 95?

Joey, whose torque converter are you buying, which company?

precision industry

so yea, like 2200, damn, exhaust is expeeeeeeeeeeensive but soooo worth it IMO. Cant wait to hear it in person at carlisle!

Holy christ! :eek: That's as much as my custom stainless steel 3" stuff cost. Ah well, I guess that's the price you pay to mod a Lincoln.

Paul.

Holy christ! :eek: That's as much as my custom stainless steel 3" stuff cost. Ah well, I guess that's the price you pay to mod a Lincoln.

Paul.


Well most of that cost is tied up in the headers and the cost to install them. Those alone are more then half the cost.

um um um HOTTIES.....I just hope I'm around when one of you decide to sell, oh and 20 grand laying around!!!!!!!!!

Yummmm!
MsM8

um um um HOTTIES.....I just hope I'm around when one of you decide to sell, oh and 20 grand laying around!!!!!!!!!

Yummmm!
MsM8


20k EASY for mine.

I don't know what I would take for mine. I prolly could'nt get enough.

20k EASY for mine.

ummm ok then BigDaddy, 20k AND laying around! ;)

SMOOCHES!.....
MsM8

Ok, Here are the parts for round 2.....

Also, here are a few pics of the painting process. Hasnt been sanded or buffed yet.....

Looks good Godfather, when are you going to the track?

What are you going to do with the Cobra intake Joey? Powdercoat it?

I didn't have the heart to bid against you guys. :D

Car looks nice. I really like the color. What's the name/paint code of that color? I'm looking for a two-tone deal for my Mustang, and one of them might be a dark metallic gray of some sort...

Paul.

What are you going to do with the Cobra intake Joey? Powdercoat it?



Maybe Chrome it :)

Maybe Chrome it :)

I have some experience chroming things. :D

http://members.cox.net/carpinteri/Saleen/Silver%20Car%20Motor2.jpg

If you want the best finish possible out of cast aluminum, here's my advice:

1. Sand the crap out of it. You need to have the smoothest, most uniform finish possible on the surface. This means no casting flash should be left by the time your done - at least not where you're going to see it.
2. Have it polished professionally, again, the smoother your finish prior to chrome, the better the result.
3. Find a really good chrome shop. Although Ford castings are pretty decent (much better, than say, my Trick Flow casting), they have their fair share of pinholes. This things are REALLY noticeable after the chrome goes on. The best way to deal with this is to have them copper coat it several (sometimes lots) of times before the chrome goes on. Chrome doesn't stick to aluminum, so they will need at least one copper coat regardless. If you have a particularly bad pinholes, you can actually weld them with a good TIG and filler rod, then sand the finish down smooth before you send it to polish.

It's all in the prep - the more time you spend on prep, the better the finish will be. :D It sure is easy to clean your motor when all you need is Windex though. :cool: Polished is a PIA to keep clean.

Paul.

Hey Joey, looks like your painting more than half the car, hardly a touch up. Why not paint the whole thing to ensure color and metallic consistency.

Hey Joey, looks like your painting more than half the car, hardly a touch up. Why not paint the whole thing to ensure color and metallic consistency.

There is alot im not paining. Im not doing the doors, front quarters, trunk, roof or rear bumper.

Paint is well matched as best as I can see so far. Ill know for sure in the sunlight. I didnt have him do a complete "strip it to metal and start over" job either. 90% was redoing previous problems. For example... The hood was sprayed at some point, and not done well.

If you don't see any problems under flourescent light, you prolly won't under sunlight. Shop lights are the most unforgiving bastards on the planet, ask me how I know......:(

Yeh, the flourescent lights can show alot more than the sun as far as body straightness. As far as the metallic and color match I think looking at it in different lights will ultimately tell if they did good. I'm not knocking anyone, just curious and I know some colors are extremely hard to match not only color, but the metallic. My MarkVIII has the ever so popular black fading paint, I considered doing sections, but it spread so fast, its a do over. Not necessarily down to bare thou.

Your hands and your eyes are the 2 best tools you have when doing bodywork.......among other things....just ask pep....and all the chick threads he has....:D

If you don't see any problems under flourescent light, you prolly won't under sunlight. Shop lights are the most unforgiving bastards on the planet, ask me how I know......:(


Well, its a little more then that. Last I saw it - it had just been cleared, but was still masked and elevated, hadnt been sanded or buffed, etc etc.

Its done, Im going to get it in the morning. I dont expect complete perfection, I didnt pay for that. Someday, I would like to take it to bare metal and completely refurbish it.

It's nice to be able to get a bunch of goodies at once huh! Lol I wish I had that pile of parts you posted a picture of.

Headers are awesome too! One hell of a machine you're building up!