For everyone in the Philly area there is a WMMR car show at Franklin Mills Mall on Oct. 2nd from 10 AM to 2 PM it would great to get together with a bunch of LVC people there. We could really shock them with a bunch of Lincolns and Cadillacs rolling into the show. Geno, Walt and myself are planning on being there to represent the Mark VIIIs. Here is a link to check it out and to register.

WMMR Show (http://www.wmmr.com/extra01.shtml)

Its a GREAT oppertunity for a NE Meet too!

Damn if I'm not going to TRY to be there. Problem is I'm also supposed to be doing a college tour in the AM with my daughter. Luckily it's the College of NJ so I'll be close by. If I get out of there early enough, I'll plan on shooting over to the mall.

Come on guys there has to be more than 3 or 4 of us. It doesn't matter if your car is not a "show car" mine is my daily driver and no show car. Let's get together and have some fun.

Dammit! i'll try to be there, but I am currently Cadillac impared. I'd have to go in the beater, or convince my friend to go with his coupe.

It will be worth it. This is a BIG show! Read the link with the show info. Its going to be awesome.

I guess i'll get working then! Nothing too major, other than a die hard procrastinator at work (or lack of)...

For everyone in the Philly area there is a WMMR car show at Franklin Mills Mall on Oct. 2nd from 10 AM to 2 PM it would great to get together with a bunch of LVC people there. We could really shock them with a bunch of Lincolns and Cadillacs rolling into the show. Geno, Walt and myself are planning on being there to represent the Mark VIIIs. Here is a link to check it out and to register.

WMMR Show (http://www.wmmr.com/extra01.shtml)

We're on it too!

We've already registered:
1976 Lincoln Mark IV
1988 Lincoln Mark VII
1992 Lincoln TownCar

SOUTH EASTERN PENNSYLVANIA
FORD MEET
SATURDAY, October 2, 2004
10:00 AM – 2:00 PM FRANKLIN MILLS MALL,
PHILADELPHIA, PA 19154
Click HERE (http://www.lscclub.org/meet/20041002/directions.htm) for directions. Contact:
John "OldSchool" Dancy 267 970 5549 OldSchool@LSCclub.org
or
Jack "HizHonor" Cahan 267 825 3017 HizHonor@LSCclub.org

http://www.LSCclub.org/cars/oldschool7/images/oldschool7001t.jpg (http://www.lscclub.org/cars/oldschool7)http://www.LSCclub.org/cars/oldschool5/images/oldschool5003t.jpg (http://www.lscclub.org/cars/oldschool5)
http://www.LSCclub.org/meet/20040821/images/P8210524.jpg (http://www.lscclub.org/meet/20040821/images/P8210524.jpg)

MEET LOCATION: behind Burlington Coat Factory
between the yellow & blue entrances.

http://www.wmmr.com/wmmrgraphics/car_tunes_new_200.jpg (http://wmmr.com/extra01.shtml)

Ok here we go again. Coming from upstate NY on the Thruway, how do I get there...?

Ok here we go again. Coming from upstate NY on the Thruway, how do I get there...?
Also see: http://www.lscclub.org/meet/20041002/directions.htm

Directions for the October 2, 2004 Meet

IF YOU ARE ENTERING YOUR CAR IN WMMR's CAR TUNES CAR SHOW ,
YOU MUST BE THERE BY 8:00 AM TO REGISTER!!

FROM OHIO & WESTERN PENNSYLVANIA

Ohio Turnpike East to Pennsylvania Turnpike East (276)
Follow 276 to Exit 351 (Philadelphia) Route 1
Follow Route 1 South (stay in outer right hand lane) for approximately 1 mile.
You will see a sign for Woodhaven Road (Rt. 63) East.
Take Woodhaven Road (Rt. 63) approximately 1 mile to Knights Road exit.
Stay in your left lane from off ramp to Knights Road and make a left and get into the right lane.
Follow Knights Road to the first traffic light and make a right into Franklin Mills Mall.

FROM NORTHERN NEW JERSEY

New Jersey Turnpike South to Pennsylvania Turnpike (276) West.
Follow to exit 351 (Philadelphia) Route 1
Follow Route 1 South (stay in outer right hand lane) for approximately 1 mile.
You will see a sign for Woodhaven Road (Rt. 63) East.
Take Woodhaven Road (Rt. 63) approximately 1 mile to Knights Road exit.
Stay in your left lane from off ramp to Knights Road and make a left and get into the right lane.
Follow Knights Road to the first traffic light and make a right into Franklin Mills Mall.

FROM SOUTHERN NEW JERSEY

New Jersey Turnpike North to Exit 4 (NJ Route 73)
Follow Route 73 North to Route 90 (Betsy Ross Bridge)
Cross over Betsy Ross Bridge to I-95 North.
Follow I-95 North to Exit 35 which will be Woodhaven Road (Route 63)
Follow Route 63 (Woodhaven Road) West for approximately ½ mile and bear right into Franklin Mills Mall.

Alternate New Jersey Route:
Route 42 (North-South Freeway) North to Walt Whitman Bridge.
Cross into Philadelphia and follow signs to I-95 North.
Follow I-95 North to Exit 35 which will be Woodhaven Road (Route 63)
Follow Route 63 (Woodhaven Road) West for approximately ½ mile and bear right into Franklin Mills Mall.

FROM SOUTHERN I-95 CORRIDOR (Delaware, Maryland, DC, Virginia and all points south)

Follow I-95 North into Pennsylvania to Exit 35 which will be Woodhaven Road (Route 63)
Follow Route 63 (Woodhaven Road) West for approximately ½ mile and bear right into Franklin Mills Mall.

If you get disoriented (lost) call: Jack "Hizhonor" 267-825-3017 or John "OldSchool" Dancy 267-970-5549

When you register tell them you belong to the LVC club unless you are going with another club that you also belong to. There is a trophy and $93 for the club with the most participation.

:V

Cmon people lets do this and get the Trophy!!!!!!

SO far Im in, Walt is in, Tom is in for sure, who else?

I'll be there but with my Caddy. Hope you guys don't mind. :biggrin:

I will also be there with one of my leaky cars. Probably the Fleetwood, which now has a leak in the oil cooler line. I'm not sure the STS will be fixed by then. Now if the Jersey Tpk was actually defined somewhere this wouldn't be so hard. The freakin thing has 3 rt numbers and is very poorly signed.

Katshot and I will have our own parking spot

:bow:

I will also be there with one of my leaky cars. Probably the Fleetwood, which now has a leak in the oil cooler line. I'm not sure the STS will be fixed by then. Now if the Jersey Tpk was actually defined somewhere this wouldn't be so hard. The freakin thing has 3 rt numbers and is very poorly signed.

Katshot and I will have our own parking spot

:bow:

Where in upstate NY are you? If you came across the George Washington Bridge the NJ Turnpike is pretty easy to find.

I'll be coming down 87 (NYS Thruway) at exit 14 (I think) maybe it's 13, it merges with 17 and somewhere right there you can pick up the NJ Tpk.

Some how I always screw it up because the signage sucks and I don't think it's i95 up there. If you're familiare with the exit you can go a 100 different ways and you don't want to be in the wrong lane.

So at that point I'll be heading towards the northern part of the NJ Tpk. I guess I was really just ranting about NJ is all. So from there I'll go south on NJ TPK to the Penn Tpk (276)

Any idea how far that is



Where in upstate NY are you? If you came across the George Washington Bridge the NJ Turnpike is pretty easy to find.

I think you should be able to get off the tpk at Rt 1, and take that to the neshaminy exit. That's off the top of my head, there may be a closer way to do that.

Crap, registration is full.

Cmon people lets do this and get the Trophy!!!!!!

SO far Im in, Walt is in, Tom is in for sure, who else?
WhatamI?!?! Chopped Liver?

The OldSchools will be there!

Crap, registration is full.
Wow.

So does that mean we won't be able to enter? :mad:

Dude from the radio stration called me today and told me there are over 300 cars registered. They only expected 200 but he said no one will be turned away.

I will be there but I am not entering the car, I don't think. I just don't think it's ready. And I don't think I can get down there by 8 AM

:cool:

So does that mean we won't be able to enter? :mad:

I'll save a place for you.....
Come on, my car's a daily driver and I still show it from time to time. There's plenty of things wrong with it from a "show condition" perspective but what the hell! Should be fun.

Ya know I thought about it yesterday and your right. It would be fun to enter. Now the only problem is getting there by 8.

Do I really want to get up at 4 AM and drive for 3 1/2 hours? Man that's asking a lot. Ok I'll try. I have a wife and step soon coming with me so it might not work out.

I will be wearing almost all my Cadillac apparel

:)

I'll save a place for you.....
Come on, my car's a daily driver and I still show it from time to time. There's plenty of things wrong with it from a "show condition" perspective but what the hell! Should be fun.

If the trans cooler comes in time for me to install it, I'll bring the STS down. Although, I guess, as a buddy system thing I should bring the Fleetwood..

:headbang:

If the trans cooler comes in time for me to install it, I'll bring the STS down. Although, I guess, as a buddy system thing I should bring the Fleetwood..

:headbang:

LOL!!
You're a trooper just for driving that far in my book. I know I wouldn't, but I'm just lazy that way! Does anyone have your registration info so they can register for you maybe? Is that even possible?

Well I'm pretty excited about getting out and meeting people along with getting the cars out there. It doesn't look like anything exciting is ever going to happen anywhere near me so I have to drive.

I'm registered. I got in before they closed it on the website

LOL!!
You're a trooper just for driving that far in my book. I know I wouldn't, but I'm just lazy that way! Does anyone have your registration info so they can register for you maybe? Is that even possible?

That's cool. Well, unless someone complains, I'll save you a spot! Actually, I don't really care if anyone complains!! LOL! :headbang:

Don't forget to tell them you are with the LVC club when you get there. I hope we can be all together maybe we can get together with the group that OldSchool1 has coming.

The more the merrier! :invasion:

I dare someone to stand i the way

:F

It's hard to stop 3 tons of Detroit steel

Maybe I'll fly the rebel flag for fun :)

That's cool. Well, unless someone complains, I'll save you a spot! Actually, I don't really care if anyone complains!! LOL! :headbang:

Big T, The TerminVIIIor and SuperMark will be on hand representing the VIII's. Who else?

http://www.lincolnmotorsport.com/blowermotor4.jpg

http://www.lincolnmotorsport.com/t3newa.jpg

http://www.lincolnmotorsport.com/ne5.jpg

Big T, The TerminVIIIor and SuperMark will be on hand representing the VIII's. Who else?

http://www.lincolnmotorsport.com/blowermotor4.jpg

http://www.lincolnmotorsport.com/t3newa.jpg

http://www.lincolnmotorsport.com/ne5.jpg




Who else do you NEED?! Those two hotties pretty much cover it I would think. :slam

So this is kind of a drag. They're calling for afternoon T-Showers here and in Philly on Sat. Bring rain coats and chomois

:woowoo2: :frown: :cool:

I just heard Saturday was supposed to be nice. What's up? :slam

Don't forget to tell them you are with the LVC club when you get there. I hope we can be all together maybe we can get together with the group that OldSchool1 has coming.
HizHonor has a white 1992 Lioncoln Town Car, I have a 1988 sky blue Lincoln Mark VII and my wife has a 1976 Dove Grey Lincoln Mark IV.

Group numbers will surpass what we could muster at this late a notice plus I belong to EVERY board and cannot represent anyone but South Eastern Pennsylvania Ford Meet ... that is unless I had a tee shirt (HINT HINT)

The latest weather report suggests that there's a chance of rain LATE in the day so I think we'll probably be ok since the show will probably have broken up by then.

Kevin, Do you have a cell phone? I'll give you a call when I arive. I intend an being there before 9:00

I'm trying fo 8:00ish to register.




The latest weather report suggests that there's a chance of rain LATE in the day so I think we'll probably be ok since the show will probably have broken up by then.

My cell is 609-828-3803 and I guees I'll be aiming for around 8:00 myself. Went to a local show tonight and it was great! Big turnout. Probably some that will be at the Franklin Mills (WMMR) show tommorrow.

It's not looking like the caddy's gonna make it, unless it gets inspected by tommorow morning. I'll try to be there regardless though.

Just finished detailing the inside of OldSchool7 and giving her one coat of wax. I think it's the first detailing she's seen since 1995. Also gave OldSchool5 a coat of Carnuba.

Make sure to bring your lunch over to Jack "HizHonor" Cahan's car because he said the engine bay was clean enough to eat off of :)

Detailing? Whats that. LOL I'm bringing the car the way I drive it everyday and will try to get some wax on it when I get there.

See you soon. It's 4:14AM and I'm leaving in about 5 minutes.


Just finished detailing the inside of OldSchool7 and giving her one coat of wax. I think it's the first detailing she's seen since 1995. Also gave OldSchool5 a coat of Carnuba.

Make sure to bring your lunch over to Jack "HizHonor" Cahan's car because he said the engine bay was clean enough to eat off of :)

Ok so I made it to this one. I had a great time and it was great to meet all of you. If you managed to get pics, please post them.

:invasion:

I started taking pics and the :q:q:q:qing batteries DIE! Heres all I got.



http://www.lincolnmotorsport.com/all3.jpg

http://www.lincolnmotorsport.com/all3two.jpg

http://www.lincolnmotorsport.com/all3three.jpg

http://www.lincolnmotorsport.com/tomshin.jpg

http://www.lincolnmotorsport.com/terminviiiorwmmr.jpg

My batteries died too. I had a good time. It was cool seeing Lincolns and Cadillacs at a show. I hope everyone else had a fun. We did stay dry during the rain and was able to get the cars dry after it stopped very quick.

My batteries died too. I had a good time. It was cool seeing Lincolns and Cadillacs at a show. I hope everyone else had a fun. We did stay dry during the rain and was able to get the cars dry after it stopped very quick.

Jack "HizHonor" was right. His engine bay was clean enough to eat off.
Estimated 250 cars and just as many spectators. A brief shower let us see who had the best wax. Cars as old as 1931 and as new as 2004. All five categories were represented genuinely and participants from all the major boards were there. Any major dude with half a heart truly could tell you my friend.
http://www.lscclub.org/meet/20041002/images/Pa020370.jpg
http://www.lscclub.org/meet/20041002/images/Pa020373.jpg
http://www.lscclub.org/meet/20041002/images/Pa020348.jpg
http://www.lscclub.org/meet/20041002/images/Pa020350.jpg
http://www.lscclub.org/meet/20041002/images/Pa020361.jpg

See the rest at http://www.lscclub.org/meet/20041002/default.htm

Can't forget the Onions John!

All I can say is, if it wasn't for meeting some nice people from this forum, the day would've been a waste. Poor Codewise after driving 3-1/2 HOURS ended up having a little electrical "issue" that caused him to have to tear part of his car apart. And WMMR didn't even give him a prize! Can you believe THAT!! It was great meeting HizHonor, OldSchool1 (and Mrs. OldShcool1) and yes, Jack's engine WAS clean enough to eat off of! I even managed to actually TALK to OldSchool1 when he wasn't on the phone. Something about the President needing advise on how to prepare for the next debate I think. Anyway, he was also busy taking a lot off pictures (so when are you going to post the REST?). Ok, so here's a few I took of our crew, hope you like them.

Thanks KatShot. As I said it was great to meet everyone, The rain was a drag but we handled it. The car seems to be fine now. I appreciate your help and concern. The ride was worth it. In a Fleetwood it felt like an hour. Your car is awsome and I'm gonna build the second one.

PS. I don't need no stinkin' award, I've got the car :)

Yeah, the rain sucked, WMMR did a crumby job organizing the show, but the PEOPLE were great! I met a bunch of great guys before the show started (I got there around 7:30 because SOMEBODY told me I needed to be there before 8:00!) and of course the people from LVC, and it was great seeing DaveSmed again. Hopefully, Dave will have his beautiful '68 Caddy ready for the next show. We need some more Caddy guys! I think it would've been nice to have the LVC guys all parked together but since I'm the new guy, I just followed everyone elses lead. Oh yeah, I forgot to point out the guy in the picture with his Mustang was none other than Dee Snyder. Kinda funny little story about Dee; I was walking up towards the front tables when I saw a real pretty Mustang pulling in. By the time I got up to it, I saw that it was MY FAVORITE one, the Boss 302. So I started taking pictures right? I wander around the front to take a nice front 3/4 shot and this guy just struts right through my picture. I'm just about to say "hey thanks ASS%&$E!" when I see the guy lean inside the Mustang. Ok, so now I know it's the car's owner. Then the guy steps back, stands up, and looks right at me CLICK, I pop his picture and it turns out to be Dee Snyder! Go figure.
Codewise, glad to hear you got home ok. You tell your wife about the surgery on her car? LOL!! Speaking of surgery, I spent the majority of the night in the E.R. with my wife and daughter. My 18 year old daughter had dislocated her shoulder at work and we didn't get out of the hospital until around 1:00AM! That made it one LONG DAY! She's ok and resting now. It's just amazing what kids will do to get out of raking leaves!!
Hey, did anyone besides me, Codewise and DaveSmed wander over and look at the new Cadillac STS's? What did you think?

The new CTS is SWEET AS HELL!!! The SuperMark got rained on for the first time in its LIFE. It was funny I was talking to Dee about his car and the fact that out SuperMark got rain for the first time in 11 years and he laughed and said his Boss 302 hasnt been rained on for 21 years!! MAN THAT WAS NICE!

I'm still suprised that most stuck through the rain, though I can understand why the guy in the Shelby Cobra replica was a bit eager to get home... There were some amazing cars there, but we definitely need some more Cadillacs. I dunno if we can show up those Marks though, there even more beautiful in real life. That SuperMark is amazing. Hopefully next time my car can attend, didn't want to drive through Bensalem with no inspection again, it didn't work out too well last time. Good to hear no further electrical issues on the way home, codewize, was hoping you didn't have to heroically rescue the Taco Bell dog from the back window if the problem resurfaced... :p It was also great to see Katshot again, we met before at a meet on another board.

I agree, we need more Caddi guys. Maybe next show I'll bring both cars? Dave I'd also like to thank you for the help and concern.

Yeah I told the wife all about it. She asked if she was going to burn up...LOL. Sorry to hear about your daughter and I'm glad shes O'tay.

So keep me posted on show in the PA area. It sounds like there are quite a few? If it's a larger show and worth the drive, I'll drive it if I can.

:wave

Dave,
You're right, we "may" have a hard time out-shining the Marks (at least the Super Mark anyway) but we'll make up for it with spirit. I was a little let down by the lack of "togetherness" the LVC people showed. The only person that actually made an effort to say hello and include us was OldSchool1 and I want to thank him (and the Mrs.) for that. If this "club" intends to try to gather club members at "meets" or shows in the future, I would hope to see a better effort made towards unity of the group that arrives. And I REALLY felt bad especially considering that Codewize drove over 3-1/2 hours to be there and if I were him, I doubt I'd make the trip again if he can only expect to be treated like an ugly step-child by the rest of the group.
Maybe the name of the site REALLY does accurately describe the sentiment of it's members Cadillac VS. Lincoln.

It was too bad that we couldn't all be together it would have been more fun if we were all on the same end of the lot. We should still try to get together again here is a link to a list of local shows for the Philly/ Jersey area. Show Finder (http://abcdiscountautoparts.com/showfindercalendar.asp)

Can't forget the Onions John!
BAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAhahahaha!

Mrs.OldSchool made sure that I'd have to "commit them to memory" :)

...
I even managed to actually TALK to OldSchool1 when he wasn't on the phone. Something about the President needing advise on how to prepare for the next debate I think.
...

Thanks K. It was good meeting you too!
George needed help with one of the Lincolns and he called because I have more Lincolns than Leno.

I talked him through it.

It was too bad that we couldn't all be together it would have been more fun if we were all on the same end of the lot. We should still try to get together again here is a link to a list of local shows for the Philly/ Jersey area. Show Finder (http://abcdiscountautoparts.com/showfindercalendar.asp)

Thats still up? Weird, ABC was bought by autozone, which is a shame, was my favorite parts store.

Well it looks like there's no shortage of gatherings in that area. I don't know if I'll make the trip again this year. I really want to get some work done on the cars before I 'show' either one of them.

If there's something going on a little closer or if some of you are willing to drive a little bit, maybe we could meet in the middle somewhere. I guess we tried having a meet and it didn't really work out as planned but hey, it's always up for discussion.

As I said, I'll drive when I can but it's not always realistic to make a trip like that. It cost me about $100 for the day between gas, food and tolls.

It was too bad that we couldn't all be together it would have been more fun if we were all on the same end of the lot. We should still try to get together again here is a link to a list of local shows for the Philly/ Jersey area. Show Finder (http://abcdiscountautoparts.com/showfindercalendar.asp)


Who said we "couldn't" all be together?

It looked like the only way we could have been together is if we all came in together. When I got there the Cadillacs and Lincolns were separated by a couple of other cars and there was only 1 open spot with the Lincolns. A few minutes later when Walt and Geno arrived there were no spots left so I went with them to keep the Mark VIIIs together. I'm sorry if anyone thought that they were being left out there were a bunch of very nice cars & trucks to look at. I did walk down and try to meet everyone that I could. If anyone wants to get together some of the cruises are smaller and it would be easier to meet.

All I can say is that other clubs I've been associated with usually make a much better effort to keep club members together. It's not like it would've been hard. There were less than a dozen members there. No big deal though, I just thought this was a club and that the members would want to try to be a club in public.

Katshot do you have any ideas or suggestions to get the club together in the future? You can't can't blame it all on WMMR it was the first car they did and they really didn't know how to do it. They should have had a local car club with experience putting on a car show to help them.

I was only blaming WMMR for having a lame show with little organization. The lack of "togetherness" I spoke of was the fault of our group entirely though. Usually, a club will meet ahead of time, maybe for breakfast or something, and then caravan together to the show. Also, it's helpful if you have a count of how many members are coming so you can also save spots for late arrivals. It's not a big thing, I was just surprised that nobody did it. The big issue to me was the way the members acted once there. Just not a "typical" car club that's all. I'm beginning to see why there's not a lot of Cadillac owners interacting here.

The big issue to me was the way the members acted once there. Just not a "typical" car club that's all. I'm beginning to see why there's not a lot of Cadillac owners interacting here.
I dont get this part. What happened?

I agree with KatShot. It seemed like several of the club members who associate with each other out side the LVC world which obviously is fine, hung with each other at the show and didn't really make any effort to represent the group.

If we're going to go to shows as a group there does need to be more togetherness. I saw several clubs having 'pre' meeting in the parking lot, prior to entrance. Being a newbie to showing cars, I saw the 'pre-meeting' as an opportunity to "Get it together" and assumed that such a thing was standard practice.

In the future the LVC members should

(1) Have a meeting prior to the show entrance
(2) Represent themselves as a group
(3) Be organized and professional
(4) Remember that we are a group as a whole and that Cadillac does exist
(5) Make a thorough effort to band together and park together

These few simple steps will make LVC a stronger presence. At the end of the day when we were asked who we were with the 3 WMMR representatives hadn't even heard of LVC. That's pretty bad when there were almost 12 of us there.

Just a few thoughts

:invasion: