The national anthem now in spanish?
This sh!t has got to stop!!!!!.
Bob.

I completely srongly, and wholeheartedly agree!!

Bob,

What are you upset about? We are a multi-national nation. I think we should sing the anthem in Englsih, Spanish, German, Russian, Chinese, Arabic, etc.

We are being invaded and nobody wants to do anything about it.

I drive from city to city and I see all the little mini-cultures that are being set up. You know, cities within a city. Little Mexico, little Cuba, Chinatown. That seems to be the way things are going.

Get used to it. If you are of European dissent, your time in the majority is numbered.

White Males became a Minority by the numbers in California back in 2001.

Brian, What I am upset about is this obvious slap in the face to all we American citizens by a low life citizen wannabe groupe of illegal aliens.
This is another way of telling we American citizens to fu** ouirselves.
These illegals, and their sympathizers came up with this as a way of saying we are here in this country so we are American also.
This is just not the way things work, and this bullsh!t has got to stop.
These low life Bastards are here illegally(get it?).
No national anthem, no street demonstrations , no amount of political crap is going to alter the fact, this illegal infiltration into our country from the southern border is just that, ILLEGAL.
They are ILLEGAL ALIENS PERIOD. and deserve nothing but a trip back to where they came from.
Just because they are here in large numbers does not make it any more legal.
All it does do is make it more difficult and time consuming to get rid of them.
Bob.

The fault for this illegal alien influx to this country lies squarly with all politicians, be it local or national.
For years the problem was growing, and no one did anything about it.
Reagan made it ten times worse by giving amnesty in the eighties, allowing millions more to get here, and now, it is up to the politicians to take the bull by the balls and get it solved.
I doubt they will though.
Bob.

Oh oh... You just said something that could construed as being negative towards the Gipper. Better duck, the right wing scythe is coming at ya!

I flew into DC today, and the radio station programmed intomy Rental LS had a guy on who quoted Bush for saying something to the effect of "If you live in this country, you should speak english, and sing the National Anthem in English" I did a silent cheer for him. Do I agree with his philosophy? Damned skippy I do. I am a naturalized citizen as well, but you know what? I learned effing English, and I don't agree with this debauchery of the Star Spangled Banner. You live in the US, learn the language, and sing the countrys' national song in English, damn it!

Then, the same mouthpiece was talking about how Bush doesn't support an additional tax (I can't remember what they called it) on the oil companies. I just shrugged, and kept driving. Personally, IDNGAF about the gas prices, but that's just me.

Oh oh... You just said something that could construed as being negative towards the Gipper. Better duck, the right wing scythe is coming at ya!

What are you talking about? Reagan was wrong about that.

Conservatives like me are intellectually honest and we can call out our leaders when they're wrong.

What about you? Do you criticize your leaders when they are wrong?

What I find particularly offensive by this isn't simply the fact they are singing in a different language. In the process of "translating" the song, according to the news, they've completely changed the words, meanings, and ADDED crap about multiculturalism in some of the popular versions.

My biggest problem nowadays is the dual linguistics in our country. I go to Lowe's all the time with my wife b/c we're doing some light remodeling, and I have the hardest time reading the names of the products b/c everything is printed in English with Spanish right below it. I mean, I can read the English, but the Spanish distracts me. It's REALLY annoying. I just got back from Lowe's this morning and I said, "Is there a country I can live in where English is the ONLY FREAKING LANGUAGE?" And she said, "Yeah, England."

I actually stopped for a second and considered it.

This is one I agree with GW on.

My ancestors, Italians, did a funny thing when they came to America.

They came here legally, and earned their citizenship. Oh, and they learned the language too.

Imagine that!

I agree my parent came here from Greece Legally I might ad and became citizens and learned the language for that matter and no one ever put out labels on the store shelves for them. Instead of trying to accommodate them make them learn. I have been to many places in this world which have not been tourist minded which most of our states are not either and I didn’t see any 2way labels in their countries. I made sure I know at least a few words to get around before going to where ever I was going why can’t they? Not saying they should be fully lingual but at least know how to ask for direction instead of stopping me in the street for directions and stat talking Spanish to me assuming that I know (I do but that’s besides the point)

So do you want to thank liberals or conservatives for this b.s. ?

Hummmmm.

Which of the two parties in this country is more tolerant of this crap?

Which party won't allow us to defend our borders?

Which party won't allow us to send illegals back?

Which party doesn't want to establish democracy throughout the world?

Which party won't allow us to drill for oil and take care of our own energy needs?

You can sit there and whine all you want. You know who the problem is.

But one of these groups is not STANDING UP NOW for what is right or wrong. One of these parties has left their balls at home.

Conservatives had a chance to run this country the right way and they are screwing it up bigtime.

Which party won't allow us to send illegals back?


Here is the problem with “sending illegals back.”

Our Country has accepted their presence here, until most recently. True or false?

In fact they were most welcome here when in 1999 - 2000 the Internet exploded, and related construction activities tied up workers such that you could not get a worker unless you booked at least six months in advance. True or false?

You cannot say today that we did not need them then, when at that time we did.

I think that a reasonable solution to this is to first announce our new policy. Make it clear we are not kidding around.

Second, is to establish standards where those that can prove that they are actively employed get to stay here.

Third, is to give the rest a reasonable time to leave, maybe up to a year.

Why waste our resources on this issue when they should be used in protecting our Country against terrorism?

Otherwise, we are treating human beings as if they were cattle. I think that approach is unacceptable.

If the Republican party takes this viewpoint now, they will win many friends.

I agree with everthing you wrote. That seems like a reasonable resolution.

I agree with everything you wrote. That seems like a reasonable resolution.

OK, you are scaring me.

Notice that when I say something, it gets done?

the aliens are not going to show up for work monday here in IL and I assume else where, so they can protest on how much work they contribute to

Both parties are screwing up big time. We need to get rid of them all. I'm an independent with conservative leanings, and have voted for both democrats and republicans. Now, I'm fed-up with both parties!

Regarding the National Anthem, the issue, in my opinion, is not that it’s being sung in a language other than English; rather, the words are being changed, which typifies a lack of appreciation. They (so-called immigrants) may claim to love the United States, yet, they think they are above our National Anthem with their politically correct B.S. I don't want to hear their B.S. about how they love the United States, yet, are willing to protest in our streets putting down our country while waving the Mexican flag. If they love the United States then they should learn English and assimilate. If they, or anyone, for that matter, wants to celebrate their native culture, fine. But, don’t impose it on Americans--After all, our country is THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA! They think it’s their right to ignore our laws. These are the types of so-called immigrants we can do without. If they think Mexico is so great, then GO HOME! They are certainly not going to be welcomed by me when they come to our country waving the Mexican flag chanting "down with America" or some other B.S. That's not free speech, its stupidity!

Here is the problem with “sending illegals back.”

Our Country has accepted their presence here, until most recently. True or false?

In fact they were most welcome here when in 1999 - 2000 the Internet exploded, and related construction activities tied up workers such that you could not get a worker unless you booked at least six months in advance. True or false?

You cannot say today that we did not need them then, when at that time we did.

I think that a reasonable solution to this is to first announce our new policy. Make it clear we are not kidding around.

Second, is to establish standards where those that can prove that they are actively employed get to stay here.

Third, is to give the rest a reasonable time to leave, maybe up to a year.

Why waste our resources on this issue when they should be used in protecting our Country against terrorism?

Otherwise, we are treating human beings as if they were cattle. I think that approach is unacceptable.

If the Republican party takes this viewpoint now, they will win many friends.


Quick fix...Mine field...Dead Zone...No man's land. Armed helicoptor gunships lay waste to anything that moves within 15 miles of the border. All entry through this countries borders not done through proper checkpoints is considered hostile.

That's the only way you're going to fix the problem. Until then there is just too much north of the Rio Grande for the poor and downtrodden of Mexico to gain...and far too little to lose.

Here is the problem with “sending illegals back.”

Our Country has accepted their presence here, until most recently. True or false?

In fact they were most welcome here when in 1999 - 2000 the Internet exploded, and related construction activities tied up workers such that you could not get a worker unless you booked at least six months in advance. True or false?

You cannot say today that we did not need them then, when at that time we did.

I think that a reasonable solution to this is to first announce our new policy. Make it clear we are not kidding around.

Second, is to establish standards where those that can prove that they are actively employed get to stay here.

Third, is to give the rest a reasonable time to leave, maybe up to a year.

Why waste our resources on this issue when they should be used in protecting our Country against terrorism?

Otherwise, we are treating human beings as if they were cattle. I think that approach is unacceptable.

If the Republican party takes this viewpoint now, they will win many friends.

We don't NEED illegal aliens for anything. I have a friend who builds websites and he subcontracts work to programmers in India over the Net. We don't need them to come here illegally in order to employ them.

Start enforcing the laws and many of the rest of them will leave of their own accord. This is documented to work, and there's proof of it. If they see that our govt is serious about enforcing the laws on the books, they'll think twice about coming/staying here.

We don't NEED illegal aliens for anything.

Present tense, for sure.

Now, what do we do with all these people that were led to believe that the USA condoned their coming here?

The present is easy; what do we do with the past?

The present is easy; what do we do with the past?

Read the last paragraph in my last post.

This Latin version of the National Athem will go byebye the same as "Ebonics" did.

Read the last paragraph in my last post.

I did. Please address the issue:

"Now, what do we do with all these people that were led to believe that the USA condoned their coming here?"

I did. Please address the issue:

"Now, what do we do with all these people that were led to believe that the USA condoned their coming here?"

I think your comment would be more accurate if it said something like...Now, what do we do with all these people that were led by Vincenti Fox to believe that it's their right to violate American laws and illegally immigrate to the United States?

I wouldn't equate government neglect to enforce immigration laws to be the same as government approval of illegal immigration. After all, it's not like the U.S. government doesn't deport illegal aliens. The problem is lack of congressional leadership in the form of a comprehensive policy dealing with the huge influx of illegal aliens. After all, Congress has been aware of this problem since about 1992, and is still more concerned with money, politics, and power than protecting the American people and those that are here legally.

Now, however, since the majority of Americans want something done, Congress is reluctantly attempting to deal with it in its usual dysfunctional way.

While I don't have any problem with immigration, I do expect competent government oversight, which is clearly in the best interest of the Nation and the people. So far, however, Congress, in its typical incompetent way, is unable to agree on anything, except when it's time to give themselves a pay increase.

Reprinted from NewsMax.com

Wednesday, May 10, 2006 10:22 a.m. EDT
Border Patrol Tips Mexico to Minuteman Sites


The U.S. Border Patrol has been tipping off Mexican authorities about the whereabouts of Minuteman civilian patrols that are seeking to stem the flow of illegal immigrants.

According to documents on the Mexican Secretary of Foreign Relations Web site, the Border Patrol is to notify the Mexican government about the location of Minuteman and other civilian border patrol groups when they participate in apprehending illegals crossing the border.

"Now we know why it seemed like Mexican officials knew where we were all the time," said Chris Simcox, founder of the Minuteman Civil Defense Corps.

"It's unbelievable that our own government agency is sending intelligence to another country. They are sending intelligence to a nation where corruption runs rampant, and that could be getting into the hands of criminal cartels.

"They just basically endangered the lives of American people." U.S. Customs and Border Protection spokesman Mario Martinez confirmed the notification process, saying it is meant to reassure the Mexican government that migrants' rights are being observed, according to the Daily Bulletin in Ontario, Calif.

"It's not a secret where the Minuteman volunteers are going to be," Martinez said.

He added that Mexico's official perception of the Minutemen and other civilian groups is that they are vigilantes, and the Border Patrol hoped to allay that concern by entering into the cooperative agreement with Mexican authorities.

But Minutemen members say that reporting their location to Mexico nullifies their efforts to intercept illegal aliens.

And T.J. Bonner, president of the National Border Patrol Council – a union representing more than 10,000 Border Patrol agents – told the Daily Bulletin that agents have complained for years about the Mexican consulate's influence over the agency.

"It worries me [that the Mexican government] seems to be unduly influencing our enforcement policies. That's not a legitimate role for any foreign nation."

:mad: What the he77 is going on here?!?!?!?!:mad:

I agree my parent came here from Greece Legally I might ad and became citizens and learned the language for that matter and no one ever put out labels on the store shelves for them. Instead of trying to accommodate them make them learn. I have been to many places in this world which have not been tourist minded which most of our states are not either and I didn’t see any 2way labels in their countries. I made sure I know at least a few words to get around before going to where ever I was going why can’t they? Not saying they should be fully lingual but at least know how to ask for direction instead of stopping me in the street for directions and stat talking Spanish to me assuming that I know (I do but that’s besides the point)


i work 2 miles from camden (basicly africa and mexico in 10 sq miles) and i get the illegals comming in every day. about 50% of my business is with mexis, and they never ever once try to speek english. All i do anymore is i say the word that i think they are saying, over and over again, untill they say it properly.

A win-win situation.
Dig a moat the length of the Mexican border.
Take the dirt and raise the levees in New Orleans.
Put the Florida alligators in the moat.

A win-win situation.
Dig a moat the length of the Mexican border.
Take the dirt and raise the levees in New Orleans.
Put the Florida alligators in the moat.

LOL good one barry.

I never knew you had it in ya.

Here's an easier solution. Put up prison style fencing along all borders, with guard towers every 1000 yards. Arm the tower with a .50cal rifle, and dare anyone to cross. It won't take long for them to get the idea:shifty: