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$50 Race HELP!

2002_LS_V8
April 18th, 2006, 12:06 AM
Anyways i posted on here a week ago how i raced a chiped jetta and beat him kind of easy i guess... now he was talkign trash to all my friends and saying how he will eat up my car :shifty: so then they told him if hes so sure to race me for 50 bucks and he agreed and i couldnt back out... anyways what can i do to make my car faster by this saturday?? i can probobly only modify the air box and thats it.. Race is from a stop up to 100, im hoping that i can take him off teh line, but i think it will be hard because his car is a stick :shifty: what all can i do to try and win? please help me out, i dont care if i loose $50 but then he will keep talking trash :rolleyes:

ps: this car wasent bought for racing, btu for some reason everyone wants a peace of my LS... :L

lexdiamondz10304
April 18th, 2006, 12:14 AM
Anyways i posted on here a week ago how i raced a chiped jetta and beat him kind of easy i guess... now he was talkign trash to all my friends and saying how he will eat up my car :shifty: so then they told him if hes so sure to race me for 50 bucks and he agreed and i couldnt back out... anyways what can i do to make my car faster by this saturday?? i can probobly only modify the air box and thats it.. Race is from a stop up to 100, im hoping that i can take him off teh line, but i think it will be hard because his car is a stick :shifty: what all can i do to try and win? please help me out, i dont care if i loose $50 but then he will keep talking trash :rolleyes:

ps: this car wasent bought for racing, btu for some reason everyone wants a peace of my LS... :L

Take the spare out... and run with a 1/4 tank of gas.

lexdiamondz10304
April 18th, 2006, 12:15 AM
and drop his tires PSI to 20 :D

StinkinLinkinLS01
April 18th, 2006, 12:15 AM
104 octane racing fuel, ram air from lower grill...stage from about 2k rpms. Or just spend $550 on a NX wetkit, have it installed in a day...then you will really surprise him!

StinkinLinkinLS01
April 18th, 2006, 12:17 AM
If no racing fuel you can usually by NOS octane booster (+6 pts) from Autozone...premium 92 + 6 = 98 octane! 1/4 tank of gas is good too.

2002_LS_V8
April 18th, 2006, 12:20 AM
ok thnx guys? will that high octane hurt my ride? cuz i would rather loose $50 then loose my engine lol, what do u mean ram air from the grill?

lexmarkz00
April 18th, 2006, 12:20 AM
Well if you've already beat him once, what's your concern?

lexdiamondz10304
April 18th, 2006, 12:22 AM
No, high octane fuel will not hurt your engine. Its the other way around.

2002_LS_V8
April 18th, 2006, 12:22 AM
well he said hes car was in limp mode... i dotn belive it tho, plus its a turbo he could have turned up the boost right? and he pay'd 600 for a chip thats supposed to make him run high 14's... i ran 15.4@92 and i beat him by 3+cars by 120... it dont make sense thats why im a little worried..

lexdiamondz10304
April 18th, 2006, 12:23 AM
ohh yea.. you could also put armor all on his front tires and just watch him spin.... while you pass him.. haha.

StinkinLinkinLS01
April 18th, 2006, 12:23 AM
98 octane wont hurt at all. In fact it cleans ur fuel system (as advertised). I've never ran 99+ octane so I'm not 100% sure on that, lol. By "ram air through the grill" I am talking about removing your sotck airbox and using the angled half as a "scoop" behind the lower grill connected to a 3" piece of tubing that runs up to the filter bay (or whatever you wanna call it).

lexdiamondz10304
April 18th, 2006, 12:24 AM
well he said hes car was in limp mode... i dotn belive it tho, plus its a turbo he could have turned up the boost right? and he pay'd 600 for a chip thats supposed to make him run high 14's... i ran 15.4@92 and i beat him by 3+cars by 120... it dont make sense thats why im a little worried..

He probably got one of those 1 dollar ebay resistors claiming his car is chipped now. :D

2002_LS_V8
April 18th, 2006, 12:29 AM
lol could be i guess... anyways would that ram air hurt my engine for 1 hr of driving and couple races?? since there is no filter... and should i have t/c on or off? if its off i kind of have traction problems for the first 3-4 sec... and if its on it looses too much power.

JoeyGood
April 18th, 2006, 12:31 AM
heat up the rubber real good before you meet up with him this way you know you will grab and hook

2002_LS_V8
April 18th, 2006, 12:38 AM
heat up the rubber real good before you meet up with him this way you know you will grab and hook
k ill do that when im staging for the race... by the way how reliable are our trannys... im kind of worried i mean it shifts perfect and teh car only has 45K miles, but still :confused:

StinkinLinkinLS01
April 18th, 2006, 01:21 AM
Trannie will be fine. Mine has 85k and I race every weekend. Shifts perfectly. LEAVE THE TRACTION CONTROL OFF! LEAVE THE A/C OFF! TURN EVERYTHING BUT THE CAR OFF! LOL!

LikeNew02
April 18th, 2006, 04:04 AM
good luck and don't kill yourself :D

mholhut
April 18th, 2006, 07:33 AM
Everyone realizes that higher octane gasoline is actually more difficult to burn, right? That's why high octane fuel is used in high psi blower/turbo applications... where the compression ration really skyrockets... to help avoid detonation. Higher octane fuel in a stock LS will give you no performance gains.

As for heating up your tires, unless you've got 500hp and/or are running drag slicks, you won't need to warm them up. You do want to make sure they are clear of debris such as dirt and rocks, etc. If you warm them up too much, they're likely to get greasy and stay greasy so when you launch, you'll do nothing but spin.

Weight removal and tire pressure are your only real help. Remove as much dead weight as you can... subs in the trunk, the spare tire, floormats, hell... even remove the passenger's front seat... gotta be worth at least a 10th in the quarter. Raise your tire pressure in the front to 50psi and drop the rears to about 25.

Then again, maybe the guy was sand-baggin' you the first time so you'd drop some money on the next race.

Silver02Sport
April 18th, 2006, 07:42 AM
Order the Xcal2, the CAI Intake Tube from LSKoncepts, and ether the magnaflow or borla exhaust. All put together you'll have around 300Hp 300lb you'll take him no problom unless he sprays in witch case all bets are off.

BanginLS
April 18th, 2006, 08:07 AM
kidnap a family relative.. throw em in ur trunk..i think he will let u win again :)


naw.. u got a v6 or v8?

Quik LS
April 18th, 2006, 08:30 AM
his screen name is 2002_LS_V8 - so I would assume a V8....

Frogman
April 18th, 2006, 08:38 AM
Well if you've already beat him once, what's your concern?


This

MrWilson
April 18th, 2006, 08:46 AM
No, high octane fuel will not hurt your engine. Its the other way around.

...use the octane that is ment for your car. I dont understand why yall get wet dreams over 98 octane, or 104 octane, or 1,000 octane. If you take 91, use 91...and nothing else. if you use 87, use 87, and nothing else. If you go to low, you run the risk of pre detonation. If you run to high, you run the risk of incomplete detonation, which means LOSS OF POWER! DUR, use the recomended octane.

the falacy comes from racing gas being high octane. Its not the fact that racing gas is high octane, but how the gas is mixed. There are many highly combustable chemicals in racing gas, as compaired to pump gas. If you want to get power from gas, go to the track and fill her up. Youll run hotter, get full combustion, and by getting the higher octane in the racing gas, you dont run the risk of pre detonation. But expect to pay @ $6 per gal.

Everyone realizes that higher octane gasoline is actually more difficult to burn, right? That's why high octane fuel is used in high psi blower/turbo applications... where the compression ration really skyrockets... to help avoid detonation. Higher octane fuel in a stock LS will give you no performance gains.

As for heating up your tires, unless you've got 500hp and/or are running drag slicks, you won't need to warm them up. You do want to make sure they are clear of debris such as dirt and rocks, etc. If you warm them up too much, they're likely to get greasy and stay greasy so when you launch, you'll do nothing but spin.

Weight removal and tire pressure are your only real help. Remove as much dead weight as you can... subs in the trunk, the spare tire, floormats, hell... even remove the passenger's front seat... gotta be worth at least a 10th in the quarter. Raise your tire pressure in the front to 50psi and drop the rears to about 25.

Then again, maybe the guy was sand-baggin' you the first time so you'd drop some money on the next race.

you are right on the money, except...if he guts his car and the other guy doesnt, he will flame him for saying its not a fair race, and then guess what...another thread about a rematch. Dont go so drastic in saving weight as to be obvious about it, but enough that it counts.

I dont know if youd be willing to, but if you get tires with a shallow sidewall (ie. 225/60/16> 225/40/16) will give you a better time accelerating. its kinda like stepping up your gears by .05. I noticed when i did that, i was getting much better times. I dont know if its true that its because of the tires, but it certiantly seemed to help.

2001LS8Sport
April 18th, 2006, 09:08 AM
I think you're being sand bagged. I would be worried too if I were you. The SCT tuner would be your best option. Have it over night freighted to you. Tell Torrie to load a good hot tune for you and then use some better fuel to keep it out of detonation. But if he's turned up the wick on his turbo...you could be in trouble.

LuxurySport00
April 18th, 2006, 09:16 AM
you did not mention what chip he has.. what gains he has made.

my best time at the track is 15.1.. i went with a friend who has a chipped jetta and his first time at the track his best was 15.2.

he now has a larger turbo and all that goes along with it.. i no longer have any remote chance.

quite honestly, you are going to loose. if it were from a roll then you'd have a chance.

TheRebel
April 18th, 2006, 09:35 AM
Wouldn't the spare tire and/or subs over the rear axle help with take off? I thought that was why a lot of people moved their batteries to the trunk. Kind of like putting sand/salt bags in the trunk in snowy weather to get better traction. I would think cutting the wieght somewhere else would be better like removing the passenger seat. If he grips, oh well, after all you don't know what mods he could have done to his car since the last time you raced.

BanginLS
April 18th, 2006, 09:42 AM
didnt read his name.. anyways.. dont fret over it.. take out stuff in the trunk that will hold u down.. increase ur air flow.. maybe some high end spark plugs? that octane boost might help.. but minimally.. i say u let him win.. then get the tuner and exhaust with the intake.. and race em for 100.. double up..

Midas78
April 18th, 2006, 09:52 AM
How about save your $50 and use it for gas money? Be happy you're not driving a girl car (VW Jetta). :D You win twice by not racing. Btw you might be saving yourself a ticket and not losing your DL or your life for racing.

Of course, I'm in Orlando and street racers get killed here every week. One just happened last week with 2 Acuras racing - highschool kid.

SoonerLS
April 18th, 2006, 10:33 AM
Just remind him about the kind of beatings that pool sharks take.

If he wants it to be a sucker bet, make it a REAL sucker bet. Since he's challenging you, that means you get to define the rules of the race, so you could always go for something like putting watermelon rinds under the front wheels...

MrWilson
April 18th, 2006, 11:58 AM
Of course, I'm in Orlando and street racers get killed here every week. One just happened last week with 2 Acuras racing - highschool kid.

Good for him. prolly deserved it:D

2002_LS_V8
April 18th, 2006, 12:45 PM
hey guys, ordering the Xcal2 is not a option right now...im a collage student... anyways this are his mods APR 93 octane, GLI Taillights, TT stubby, painted calipers, euro switch, turbo gauge, IK22 Iridium spark plugs, LuK clutch and flywheel (thats a APR CHIP with 93 octane gas)... i was searching through jetta forums and i ran on his postings about the limp he had, so i guess its true now if he fixed it i better just put up a fun race cuz im probobly loosing..http://forums.vwvortex.com/zerothread?id=2555435

NYC LS8
April 18th, 2006, 12:57 PM
http://forums.vwvortex.com/zerothread?id=2555435

Anyone else find it hilarious that they use something called "vag-com"?

As far as the race, just race him. Who cares what he ran at the track. He may miss a shift, spin them off the line, etc. Besides, it's only 50 bucks. If it was 500 I'd be a little more concerned.

Good luck.

rocket5979
April 18th, 2006, 01:08 PM
...use the octane that is ment for your car. I dont understand why yall get wet dreams over 98 octane, or 104 octane, or 1,000 octane. If you take 91, use 91...and nothing else. if you use 87, use 87, and nothing else. If you go to low, you run the risk of pre detonation. If you run to high, you run the risk of incomplete detonation, which means LOSS OF POWER! DUR, use the recomended octane.

the falacy comes from racing gas being high octane. Its not the fact that racing gas is high octane, but how the gas is mixed. There are many highly combustable chemicals in racing gas, as compaired to pump gas. If you want to get power from gas, go to the track and fill her up. Youll run hotter, get full combustion, and by getting the higher octane in the racing gas, you dont run the risk of pre detonation. But expect to pay @ $6 per gal.



you are right on the money, except...if he guts his car and the other guy doesnt, he will flame him for saying its not a fair race, and then guess what...another thread about a rematch. Dont go so drastic in saving weight as to be obvious about it, but enough that it counts.

I dont know if youd be willing to, but if you get tires with a shallow sidewall (ie. 225/60/16> 225/40/16) will give you a better time accelerating. its kinda like stepping up your gears by .05. I noticed when i did that, i was getting much better times. I dont know if its true that its because of the tires, but it certiantly seemed to help.


Wilson and Mholnut are spot on with what they said.

Don't fall into the higher octane = more power. However, higher octane + added spark timing = more power.

That applies even moreso in a blown application where the IAT's are skyrocketing through the roof along with piston wall friction and cylinder pressures going up. :cool:

BanginLS
April 18th, 2006, 01:12 PM
those posts on those threads are from a year ago.. when did u race this guy?

Midas78
April 18th, 2006, 01:38 PM
those posts on those threads are from a year ago.. when did u race this guy?

:bowrofl: First the V8 or V6 post, now this. Those posts in the VW forum are from this week. BanginLS, I think you should take a break from the computer for a few minutes. :Beer

VAG-COM, exactly, the Jetta is a girl car.....

itsnotmydaddys
April 18th, 2006, 05:24 PM
Someone once said on here its not what you can add to the car all the time, sometimes its what you can remove. Drain all pointless fluids, Take everything out of your car, take the seats out 9except the drivers), spare gone, 1/2 tank od gas. you get the point. Also cut your airbox, that may help a little, i noticed a little gain.

Roadwarrior50
April 18th, 2006, 05:54 PM
Drain all pointless fluids
?? Most Fluids are pretty important. The only think i can think of is windshield washer fluid. And Maybe this is just me...but if you are so worries about losing that you need to drain the whole 2lbs of washer fluid out of your car, your probably gonna lose. I used to race my old mustang at the track, and i rarely took anything out. That way, i knew my car was a 13s street car, and i could do it without spending a couple hours prepping it. Just race the guy with the jetta and give it :q:q:q:q.

SilverLS
April 18th, 2006, 06:14 PM
good luck on getting him off the line my girl as a 1.8t and its stock and auto and it jumps of the line so fast if you stage that car about 2000 it will white smoke them all the way threw first but your hauling a$$ too....If he was in limp mode he was running less boost more like 5-7 and if he chipped he couild be running up to 20 and that is alot of boost for that little car.... do you know anything else about the car???

SilverLS
April 18th, 2006, 06:23 PM
opps i see the sednond poage now and his post.....I wish you lots of luck hes running a 20psi that can get him in the 13.xx all day and some vw have broke high 12's with 20psi race gas and exhaust and good tires.....that little cars are fast I promise you my buddy has a gti with apr chip and I spray on my s10 and I was 1/4 of a car behind him and I know my truck ran mid to low 13.'s

good luck and let us know

2002_LS_V8
April 18th, 2006, 10:38 PM
good luck on getting him off the line my girl as a 1.8t and its stock and auto and it jumps of the line so fast if you stage that car about 2000 it will white smoke them all the way threw first but your hauling a$$ too....If he was in limp mode he was running less boost more like 5-7 and if he chipped he couild be running up to 20 and that is alot of boost for that little car.... do you know anything else about the car???

This kids Jetta is slow off the line because i used to race him with my stock 1990 miata and i would jump out 1 car lenght out every time, and i used to beat him up to 90 mph... but now his not stock :( but i also got something ALOT faster then a miata :shifty:

2002_LS_V8
April 18th, 2006, 10:42 PM
Someone once said on here its not what you can add to the car all the time, sometimes its what you can remove. Drain all pointless fluids, Take everything out of your car, take the seats out 9except the drivers), spare gone, 1/2 tank od gas. you get the point. Also cut your airbox, that may help a little, i noticed a little gain.

ahhhhh man.... i would rather loose 500 bucks then drain my fluids just to beat a damn ricer in a jetta... anyways i will just run him like someone alredy said its only 50 bucks.... ill try and get it on video too :L, and i will do the intake mod tomorrow maybe.. ;)

JohnnyB
April 19th, 2006, 12:03 AM
now he was talkign trash to all my friends and saying how he will eat up my car :shifty: so then they told him if hes so sure to race me for 50 bucks and he agreed and i couldnt back out...

So, your friends are going to pony up the fifty if you lose right? I wouldn't be pulling it out of my pocket if someone set me up for a race.

StinkinLinkinLS01
April 19th, 2006, 12:04 AM
Octane booster makes your car run better.

I'm not making any claims as to HP but I know for a fact I got slightly better gas mileage (+1-1.5 mpg) over the last two weeks I have used octane booster. In what was just short of 1/4 mile I beat a tuned Nissan Titan by a good car and 1/2 with octane booster; I lost to the same Titan the week before by about a car without the booster. Could have been a third variable but we ran twice, same results both times. The engine runs very smooth, the very slight knocking at idle has almost dissapeared. I think it helps, just my opinion.

PM80
April 19th, 2006, 06:32 AM
from reading the post it looks as though he still doesn't have it fixed?

SilverLS
April 19th, 2006, 07:21 AM
This kids Jetta is slow off the line because i used to race him with my stock 1990 miata and i would jump out 1 car lenght out every time, and i used to beat him up to 90 mph... but now his not stock :( but i also got something ALOT faster then a miata :shifty:
I think if you jump him off the line (esp. if you get more than a car on him ) I think youll take him than.... My LS pulls hard after 2,000 and if you jump him after that your good....But I still dont know about his car it should be a good race.....Get one of your friends and a tripod to videotape it....I think it would be a good video....

SilverLS
April 19th, 2006, 07:25 AM
The engine runs very smooth, the very slight knocking at idle has almost dissapeared. I think it helps, just my opinion.
Damn you have not at idle??? That is never a good thing....

2001LS8Sport
April 19th, 2006, 09:24 AM
Did he want to race YOU or your CAR??? Did he have to say you had to run your LS?????? Wanna borrow my Cobra???????

BanginLS
April 19th, 2006, 10:29 AM
Did he want to race YOU or your CAR??? Did he have to say you had to run your LS?????? Wanna borrow my Cobra???????

aaaaahahaha.. that wouldnt be nice..


i kept reading the "member since date"... so do u know if he fixed the limp mode problem?


whats up with with this guy, first he goes limp, and then is forced to use vag-com to help himself?

SilverLS
April 19th, 2006, 10:42 AM
whats up with with this guy, first he goes limp, and then is forced to use vag-com to help himself?


That is great Im keeping that one for a SIG....

BanginLS
April 19th, 2006, 11:46 AM
lmfao

J3FF
April 19th, 2006, 05:36 PM
Take the spare out, the spare cover, floor mats, girl, pretty much anything and everything removable. That weight really effects the LS. I had 5 people in the car today and it didn't pick up worth a D*** Talk about 8 and a half seconds to 60 with a full car...So a 60 pound spare will make you run ABOUT a 8 hundreths of a second quicker...every little bit counts. Run octane booster as well and only run him with enough fuel to race him and get you home. There is no way you can add power to your car in such little time, just lighten your load and go.

TheRebel
April 19th, 2006, 08:23 PM
Remember, rubbing is racing!! So if you don't mind a few dents and scratches, you could always run him off the road and hope his car goes up in flames. Then, he won't be able to challenge you again and you still won the race!!

StinkinLinkinLS01
April 19th, 2006, 10:01 PM
Remember, rubbing is racing!! So if you don't mind a few dents and scratches, you could always run him off the road and hope his car goes up in flames. Then, he won't be able to challenge you again and you still won the race!!

We drive Lincolns...not civics...

2002_LS_V8
April 19th, 2006, 10:46 PM
hehe yea its not a civic man... and saturday is comming up guys so get rdy for a good video of LS vs Jetta ;)

rocket5979
April 19th, 2006, 11:51 PM
hehe yea its not a civic man... and saturday is comming up guys so get rdy for a good video of LS vs Jetta ;)


Remember to drive safe. Don't want the po'po's scraping any LVC members off the ground anytime soon. ;)

BigSteve
April 20th, 2006, 12:41 AM
Waterloo, eh? Me too.

Anyway, octane won't make a difference in performance or fuel milage unless you have detonation. Unless you have DR's, heating the tires is a bad thing. Radials work better cold. Weight transfer without the spare won't be a big deal. My car won't spin the tires off the line, even with TC off, so transfer really means nothing.

2002_LS_V8
April 20th, 2006, 12:45 AM
Waterloo, eh? Me too.

Anyway, octane won't make a difference in performance or fuel milage unless you have detonation. Unless you have DR's, heating the tires is a bad thing. Radials work better cold. Weight transfer without the spare won't be a big deal. My car won't spin the tires off the line, even with TC off, so transfer really means nothing.

Hey bigsteve what color is your LS man?? maybey i seen u up on university where people hang out all the time, i know there is one more LS that comes up there its brown color i think.. and if its u remember when we were driving next to each other and u steped on it? that was me in the blue LS :cool:

BigSteve
April 20th, 2006, 12:49 AM
Hey bigsteve what color is your LS man?? maybey i seen u up on university where people hang out all the time, i know there is one more LS that comes up there its brown color i think.. and if its u remember when we were driving next to each other and u steped on it? that was me in the blue LS :cool:
Probably not me. I have an '06 Black V8 LS. My wife has an '05 Black Aviator. My summer car is an '01 Cobra convertible. I have been known to cruise university in the cobra with the top down on occasion... ;)

I'll keep an eye out for a blue LS in the future. :cool:

rocket5979
April 20th, 2006, 12:50 AM
Anyway, octane won't make a difference in performance or fuel milage unless you have detonation.

Correction..."unless your tuned for it". It avoids detonation thus allowing more spark timing to be added via the tune which makes more power.



Unless you have DR's, heating the tires is a bad thing. Radials work better cold.


Another wives tale. Heating the street radials does help. Being that they are made of different compounds they only should be heated for so long to get them cleaned off and to temp. Slicks, ET's, and DR's take much longer, with slicks being the longest.


Weight transfer without the spare won't be a big deal.

I dont believe they meant weight transfer. I believe they meant more like less total weight which means better power to weight ratio.

I don't mean to rag on your post, but I seen more than a few inconsistencies that needed correction. ;)

BigSteve
April 20th, 2006, 01:01 AM
Correction..."unless your tuned for it". It avoids detonation thus allowing more spark timing to be added via the tune which makes more power.I think that is quite obvious. I'm guessing from his post that he has no mods, therefore is not tuned for it, therefore will not make a difference in his race.

Another wives tale. Heating the street radials does help. Being that they are made of different compounds they only should be heated for so long to get them cleaned off and to temp. Slicks, ET's, and DR's take much longer, with slicks being the longest. I don't know what you race, but in all my cars, as long as your treads aren't full of gravel, it won't make a lick of difference. A stock LS will see no gain from heating the radials because it can't spin them off the line regardless. My cobra on the other hand...

I dont believe they meant weight transfer. I believe they meant more like less total weight which means better power to weight ratio. Wouldn't the spare tire and/or subs over the rear axle help with take off? I thought that was why a lot of people moved their batteries to the trunk. Kind of like putting sand/salt bags in the trunk in snowy weather to get better traction. I would think cutting the wieght somewhere else would be better like removing the passenger seat. If he grips, oh well, after all you don't know what mods he could have done to his car since the last time you raced.This is what I was referring to. He's referring to weight transfer (more weight over the rear axle), which isn't a problem in this case. Total weight is the issue, which is why removing the spare is a good idea. Like you said, power to weight.

I don't mean to rag on your post, but I seen more than a few inconsistencies that needed correction. ;)
Not trying to rag on your post, but perhaps some comprehension is needed. ;) I know what I am talking aboot.

rocket5979
April 20th, 2006, 01:10 AM
I don't know what you race, but in all my cars, as long as your treads aren't full of gravel, it won't make a lick of difference. A stock LS will see no gain from heating the radials because it can't spin them off the line regardless. My cobra on the other hand...


I never mentioned anything of a stock LS. You made a blanket statement regarding street radials not benefitting from a burnout at the track, which is not true. While they should not be heated as long as a slick, they still benefit from it. I am running a 400rwhp Kenne Bell 2.2 supercharged Explorer right now and go to the track on a weekly basis. Soon it will have 600+ to the wheels so I know a thing or two about needing traction. :D

This is what I was referring to. He's referring to weight transfer (more weight over the rear axle), which isn't a problem in this case. Total weight is the issue, which is why removing the spare is a good idea. Like you said, power to weight.

Ok, I was referring to a post on the last page, not the first one. no wonder we didn't know where the heck each other was coming from on that one.


Not trying to rag on your post, but perhaps some comprehension is needed. ;) I know what I am talking aboot.

Comprehension was and still is there, which was why I replied in the first place instead of assuming you meant something else. If your going to mention something regarding what someone else posted quote them so as to avoid confusion. Don't be one of "those" new guys.

itsnotmydaddys
April 20th, 2006, 01:25 AM
This is why i love this place. 2 guys battling it out, love it. Rocket I must admit you do know your s--t. Ay first i thought u were just some chump but over time you have become one of the most knowledgeable posters here. Im sure otehr will agree.

Also are you guys from waterloo, Ill. If so tell me where the race is and ill come smoke your boy in my LS

rocket5979
April 20th, 2006, 01:28 AM
This is why i love this place. 2 guys battling it out, love it. Rocket I must admit you do know your s--t. Ay first i thought u were just some chump but over time you have become one of the most knowledgeable posters here. Im sure otehr will agree.

Also are you guys from waterloo, Ill. If so tell me where the race is and ill come smoke your boy in my LS


Thanks....I think.....;) :D :D :D :D I hear ya. :cool:



Speaking of races...If you ever want to make it up to GLD in Union Grove, Wi that is where I race at. The track prep sucks balls, but I don't feel like driving to Byron quite yet. ;)

BigSteve
April 20th, 2006, 05:41 AM
I never mentioned anything of a stock LS. You made a blanket statement regarding street radials not benefitting from a burnout at the track, which is not true. While they should not be heated as long as a slick, they still benefit from it. I am running a 400rwhp Kenne Bell 2.2 supercharged Explorer right now and go to the track on a weekly basis. Soon it will have 600+ to the wheels so I know a thing or two about needing traction. :DAgreed. I think we both know that street radials will show some benefit from heating, my comment was for this thread, entitled "$50 race help!", in which there is clearly lots of good information, and lots of not-so-good information.


Ok, I was referring to a post on the last page, not the first one. no wonder we didn't know where the heck each other was coming from on that one.Ironically enough, I didn't want to make my first post a monstrously long, quoted frankenstein where I would be calling out other members of a forum. That was why I was vague.

Comprehension was and still is there, which was why I replied in the first place instead of assuming you meant something else. If your going to mention something regarding what someone else posted quote them so as to avoid confusion. Don't be one of "those" new guys.
"Those" new guys?:confused: The kind that know what they are talking about?

I'm really not trying to be a dick. I have read these forums off and on for a year or so, when we were deciding whether or not get my wife's Aviator. I saw a guy on here from Waterloo, thought it was cool, and posted. The guy has a stock LS, untuned, and he is getting advice telling him to run race gas, and octane boosters, remove weight, don't remove weight, etc. I wanted to give him some clear advice for his car in the situation he asked about.

BigSteve
April 20th, 2006, 05:43 AM
Also are you guys from waterloo, Ill. If so tell me where the race is and ill come smoke your boy in my LS
Nope. Waterloo, Ontario, Canada. It will be a long drive from Il. ;)

LuxurySport00
April 20th, 2006, 07:55 AM
Hey bigsteve what color is your LS man?? maybey i seen u up on university where people hang out all the time, i know there is one more LS that comes up there its brown color i think.. and if its u remember when we were driving next to each other and u steped on it? that was me in the blue LS :cool:

do you have mirror tint? if so, i think i've seen you around.

i too have a blue LS.

BigSteve
April 20th, 2006, 09:06 AM
do you have mirror tint? if so, i think i've seen you around.

i too have a blue LS.
Nope, no tint. :( Maybe soon, I'm still stock. I work in Guelph, so I don't drive around the city too much.

How many people are here from Waterloo! :confused: I rarely run into other Canadians, let alone people from the same city as me.

2002_LS_V8
April 20th, 2006, 09:39 AM
do you have mirror tint? if so, i think i've seen you around.

i too have a blue LS.

Im from Waterloo, IA- USA, not from canada man :shifty: and no tint its stock for another couple weeks then its getting the tint :cool:

Hey BigSteve what color is your cobra man?? and you should coem up there with it and teach this ricer a lesson because i dont think i can since he send me this video of beating on my friends 1995 TA(auto) and 1997 Mustang GT (auto) with intake/exhaust... my car might be a little faster but ill still get beat since he pretty much walked them..http://videos.streetfire.net/video/A39F0CB4-EC89-4D7F-B97C-371968E7CB30.htm NO MATTER U WILL HAVE A VIDEO OF A LS REPRESENTING LOL :(

LuxurySport00
April 20th, 2006, 09:42 AM
Im from Waterloo, IA- USA, not from canada man :shifty: and no tint its stock for another couple weeks then its getting the tint :cool:



that's crazy b/c this comment fits very well with the waterloo i'm in :

maybey i seen u up on university where people hang out all the time,

i had assumed you meant university plaza.

kinda funny = )

2002_LS_V8
April 20th, 2006, 09:44 AM
Oh and dont listen to thoes little ricers in the video it will only make u stupider..:shifty: :mad: im gonna have to rematch the :q:q:q:qer after i get Xcal2 intake and exhaust then ill show him... o well i still drive a way better car then him :L lol :(

2002_LS_V8
April 20th, 2006, 09:46 AM
that's crazy b/c this comment fits very well with the waterloo i'm in :



i had assumed you meant university plaza.

kinda funny = )

ahah no man there is University ave. down here where we cruse and then pull over and hand out :) , well im off to do a tune up on my BEAST lol :cool:

StinkinLinkinLS01
April 20th, 2006, 10:45 AM
And I was thinking abut university ave here in MN where we all cruise...lol...their must a be Uni EVERYWHERE!

BigSteve
April 20th, 2006, 11:10 AM
Im from Waterloo, IA- USA, not from canada man :shifty: and no tint its stock for another couple weeks then its getting the tint :cool:

Hey BigSteve what color is your cobra man?? and you should coem up there with it and teach this ricer a lesson because i dont think i can since he send me this video of beating on my friends 1995 TA(auto) and 1997 Mustang GT (auto) with intake/exhaust... my car might be a little faster but ill still get beat since he pretty much walked them..http://videos.streetfire.net/video/A39F0CB4-EC89-4D7F-B97C-371968E7CB30.htm NO MATTER U WILL HAVE A VIDEO OF A LS REPRESENTING LOL :(
Actually, I'm from Canada too. I figured you were talking about University plaza as well. :slam:

FWIW, my cobra is black, but I don't think I'm going to drive down to Illinois. :D

rocket5979
April 20th, 2006, 11:22 AM
"Those" new guys?:confused: The kind that know what they are talking about?

I'm really not trying to be a dick. I have read these forums off and on for a year or so, when we were deciding whether or not get my wife's Aviator. I saw a guy on here from Waterloo, thought it was cool, and posted. The guy has a stock LS, untuned, and he is getting advice telling him to run race gas, and octane boosters, remove weight, don't remove weight, etc. I wanted to give him some clear advice for his car in the situation he asked about.


Hey bro, I didn't mean it like that. I meant the new guy comment as in not following protocol when posting (quoting), so as to avoid confusion. I will take another new knowledgeable poster over one that asks 50 million questions any day. Usually saves me time posting.

Advice from people whom are experienced with these things is always welcome here, I just wanted to point out a few things that could have been misinterpreted if people took them the wrong way. ;) Some people tend to dodge in and out of forums and only browse through pieces of info before acting on things without really researching them. Call that lazy human nature I guess...:D I have found that in order to prevent confusion on their part resulting in vehicular damage or worse, I tend to overexplain things. Yeah, it may seem longwinded, but I try not to leave any room for interpretation, or for a person to say "well, did that apply to MY vehicle too?". I hope ya hear where I am coming from here.

I know the member base here can benefit from one more member who has some good knowledge. All I suggest is that we take the time to explain certain things in full detail is all. :Beer

2002_LS_V8
April 20th, 2006, 11:23 AM
ahaha big confusion lol... its in IOWA not ILLINOIS lol...

rocket5979
April 20th, 2006, 11:26 AM
ahaha big confusion lol... its in IOWA not ILLINOIS lol...



Hehehe. I looked in Mapquest last night and there were about 15 different Waterloo's. Talk about a name thats worn out.

It like using the name "Panthers" for a high school sports team. :lol:

BigSteve
April 20th, 2006, 11:34 AM
Hey bro, I didn't mean it like that. I meant the new guy comment as in not following protocol when posting (quoting), so as to avoid confusion. I will take another new knowledgeable poster over one that asks 50 million questions any day. Usually saves me time posting.

Advice from people whom are experienced with these things is always welcome here, I just wanted to point out a few things that could have been misinterpreted if people took them the wrong way. ;) Some people tend to dodge in and out of forums and only browse through pieces of info before acting on things without really researching them. Call that lazy human nature I guess...:D I have found that in order to prevent confusion on their part resulting in vehicular damage or worse, I tend to overexplain things. Yeah, it may seem longwinded, but I try not to leave any room for interpretation, or for a person to say "well, did that apply to MY vehicle too?". I hope ya hear where I am coming from here.

I know the member base here can benefit from one more member who has some good knowledge. All I suggest is that we take the time to explain certain things in full detail is all. :Beer :beer: No problem. All forums are different, I'll be sure to use plenty of quotes from here on out.

BTW, you guys have lots of cool smilies here.

2002_LS_V8
April 20th, 2006, 10:25 PM
:beer: No problem. All forums are different, I'll be sure to use plenty of quotes from here on out.

BTW, you guys have lots of cool smilies here.
:hump: :ricesmile :L thoes are my 3 favorites hahah, oh and this one too :shifty:

J3FF
April 20th, 2006, 10:57 PM
Our Lincolns will beat the 1996-1998 4.6 Litre Mustangs GTs. That Firebird wasn't anything special either. If it was a trans am I'd be a little scared. Ok so I raced a friend with a Jetta 1.8t and I left him. I have the cold air intake though, not sure how much of a difference that makes. I just raced him to see how much you have to worry about, and that racing chip wont hurt you, just race him.

2002_LS_V8
April 20th, 2006, 11:08 PM
Our Lincolns will beat the 1996-1998 4.6 Litre Mustangs GTs. That Firebird wasn't anything special either. If it was a trans am I'd be a little scared. Ok so I raced a friend with a Jetta 1.8t and I left him. I have the cold air intake though, not sure how much of a difference that makes. I just raced him to see how much you have to worry about, and that racing chip wont hurt you, just race him.

Good news for me man... did ur friend have a chip too?? and that was a trans am but it was the LT-1 not LS1.... oh and yes im gonna race him tomorrow or saturday night for sure and there is going to be a video..:cool:

J3FF
April 20th, 2006, 11:36 PM
Good news for me man... did ur friend have a chip too?? and that was a trans am but it was the LT-1 not LS1.... oh and yes im gonna race him tomorrow or saturday night for sure and there is going to be a video..:cool:

Nope! It's a 2001 though, the LT-1 Sucked...just so everyone knows. Did you notice before they hit 90-100 they would shut the camera off? They know if they went longer those V8s would blow right on by. There is almost nothing better than a V8s pulling power. Those were stupid 10 seconds clips of 60-100 when they had the advantage, everyone knows bigger engines suck from a rolling start!!

2002_LS_V8
April 21st, 2006, 12:28 AM
his chip gives him 20 psi of boost to play with... and i talked ot the guy with the trans am he said he was in 3rd gear instead of second.. o well i guess we will see how it goes down this saturday ;) i have a feeling i will win off the line atleast.

2001LS8Sport
April 21st, 2006, 09:17 AM
FWIW, my cobra is black, but I don't think I'm going to drive down to Illinois. :D


What year? Mods? Mines an 04. It's a little warmed over! :D

SilverLS
April 21st, 2006, 09:28 AM
I am confused??NOW You say your racing to 100mph....But the LS has longer gears and that VW spools quick so it will bang through the gears quick....there 5th gear is long but he can reach 100 in 3rd no problem....so are you guys just gonna see who gets there 1st? and if so how would you know how does it first???

I wish I lived by you I would love to see this race....Good Luck and Give him HELL for all the LS's out there

rocket5979
April 21st, 2006, 09:59 AM
I am confused??NOW You say your racing to 100mph....But the LS has longer gears and that VW spools quick so it will bang through the gears quick....there 5th gear is long but he can reach 100 in 3rd no problem....


I can reach damn near 100MPH in 3rd gear. Usually when I am running at the dragstrip I go through the traps at 98 mph in 3rd gear. Pretty close. ;)

jrockcentral1
April 5th, 2007, 03:47 PM
So I just read this entire thread and was expecting some race results, and possibly a video link. wtf?? lol

jmz2k5
April 5th, 2007, 04:05 PM
yea, major dissapointment. maybe he used jet fuel and his car blew up or something.

daves2000ls
April 5th, 2007, 04:11 PM
That is great Im keeping that one for a SIG....

i always wondered where that came from...

other than discovering that, this thread was a waste of time

eastcoastLS
April 5th, 2007, 05:53 PM
them..http://videos.streetfire.net/video/A39F0CB4-EC89-4D7F-B97C-371968E7CB30.htm
:why:
my friend has the firehawk with the LS-1, would have eatin that jetta with ease.


So I just read this entire thread and was expecting some race results, and possibly a video link. wtf?? lol

yea i just read this entire thread also :Bang :blah: :thread:

Macoffutt
April 5th, 2007, 06:07 PM
Good for him. prolly deserved it:D


Thats pretty messed up.. Not many people *deserve* to die.. Damn harsh bro... damn harsh.

NYC LS8
April 5th, 2007, 08:57 PM
I killed MrWilson. And yes he deserved it.



























;)

mharrison
April 5th, 2007, 10:11 PM
Damn....I didn't realize this thread was ancient!

NickLS
April 5th, 2007, 11:27 PM
I want 10 minutes of my life back for reading through all this for nothing :). From now on, I'm going to the last page and reading backwards.

jrockcentral1
April 5th, 2007, 11:56 PM
[QUOTE=NickLS;281670]I want 10 minutes of my life back for reading through all this for nothing :). From now on, I'm going to the last page and reading backwards.[/QUOTE
lmao, well after reading this thread (i think i searched for caliper paint :confused: ) I have the sudden urge to remove my spare tire from the trunk. :D Washer fluid stays though!

Fla02LS
April 6th, 2007, 12:04 AM
So what the hell went on in this thread exactly? A guy wanted to race his LS against a Jetta, and.....? There was a video which i watched and didnt quite understand it either. Where the Trans Am and Mustang actually racing? Was it a rolling start on some road? Maybe the T/A and Mustang were old beaters and not fit for racing. I had a '96 T/A(http://www.lincolnvscadillac.com/showthread.php?t=26795) which met an unfortunate demise, but i promise you it would outrun a Jetta from 45-60 mph. It was a 6 spd manual with some slight engine mods, exhaust, basic LT-1 upgrades. But for those that havent driven a true V8 muscle car with a manual tranny, you can downshift and pull on that guy till the sun goes down. A manual tranny makes a world of difference over an auto V8. Anyway i thought it was all gay, i just hadnt read the thread till just now. Luckily i DID start from the last post and work backwards.

P.S. As far as the removing the spare tire thing goes, i remember reading on here about a guy who did that and then had no way to change his blown tire. I'll take a loss due to a spare tire anyday over getting stranding somewhere with no spare.

GIANT ROBOT
April 6th, 2007, 12:38 AM
Why would you want to put $300.00 or $400.00 in your car just to win $50.00

rickztahone
April 6th, 2007, 01:58 AM
ummmm.....so where's the video? :Bang

DMcBrideBoston
April 6th, 2007, 02:27 AM
If no racing fuel you can usually by NOS octane booster (+6 pts) from Autozone...premium 92 + 6 = 98 octane!

lol....funniest thing i have read in a while....

glanga
April 6th, 2007, 11:49 AM
what the hell i want to know what happens. im sure he won ive taken a 1.8t audi a4 manual that was chipped and exhaust by a length. same car i guess just with quattro. oh well i want to know what happened!!! i want some video!

CJones16
April 6th, 2007, 12:21 PM
lol that videos stupid, its like the jetta going around and just honking at people, bet the trans am didnt even know he was racing... and he prolly fallowed that mustang around all day..lol

what were the race results..

Chris

ksbga
April 6th, 2007, 12:23 PM
I just realized too how old this was too.
WTF?
Any body know what happened?

Frogman
April 6th, 2007, 02:45 PM
.....

ksbga
April 6th, 2007, 06:36 PM
LMAO
Thanks Frogman.
Can't see a pic of Dr.Phil anywhere and not think of this forum...

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