KD00LS November 17th, 2005, 05:25 PM What's up everyone. I recently got an underage drinking charge in Pennsylvania and got my license suspended for 90 days. Does anyone know if it applies in NJ, since I'm a NJ citizen? I asked the judge, and to my suprise he didn't know. I might just drive anyway and if a problem arises blame it on the fact that I wasn't informed.
HyeLifeLS November 17th, 2005, 05:46 PM man, you better don't play with that sh*t. Most of those judges and the cops don't know what the hell they are talking about.
94m5 November 17th, 2005, 06:12 PM DON'T just drive and assume you'll get out of trouble if your caught. Go to your secretary of state (or who ever does your liscence records), and have them run your name.
Normal penalties around here for that type of crap is double what ever you had before PLUS some money out of pocket. I was caught driving on a suspended Dl, the day of prom IN my tux, and getting ready to walk into the building. I got the ticket, but paid the bond to stay out of jail.
Later that month the judje gave me supervision, but it still got sent to the SOS. I ended up with no drivers liscence for 2 years. Think about that for a little bit, and figure out if you want to make it worse for yourself.
Deal with it. You did the crime, pay the penalty and be done with it. I myself believe that the drinking age should be lowered, but untill that time, you have to deal with the laws that are in place.
Just my 2 Cents.
Mike
Also....In Illinois, anyone with a suspended DL is restricted from driving in any state. does'nt matter if it's alaska or hawaii.
pepperman November 17th, 2005, 06:17 PM :I well said Mike!!!!!
KD00LS November 17th, 2005, 06:19 PM Good point, the license is supposedly only suspended in PA. I don't know, I'll call tomorrow.
erd517 November 17th, 2005, 06:48 PM Yes u dont wanna play with that they take that seriously i was a passenger in a drunk driving crash and i got :q:q:q:qed up inestins repaired...head trauma some bad :q:q:q:q but all i can say the person who was driving is my friend and still is....but if ur license is suspended dosent that mean anywhere u go its still gonna be suspended just my thoughts id look into that more before u decide to drive
aggiestckl November 18th, 2005, 06:20 PM It does not apply in new jersey. I live in Doylestown PA and got the same charge twice acctually.. you just cant drive in PA. I know this for a fact... I asked the judge, who acctually looked it up.. It does not and i repeat does not carry over into NJ... they just hit you for 480 bucks.. and like 100 for a reinstatement of driving priviliges in pa
mespock November 18th, 2005, 06:26 PM Hey, Just be careful with the DL and the Law... What is only 90 day may become more expensive, longer, and in WI you could do time..
MarkVlll Mike November 19th, 2005, 12:06 AM I'm a PA resident.
Personally I would just keep driving, but only when I had to, and it would be the speed limit for a change. You gotta find out if offenses in PA transfer to NJ. Give your local court house a call, don't give them to many details.
Did you get a fine too? A few weeks ago one of my friends got arrested for public drunkness. They didn't suspend his license but he was fined $318.
JC1994 November 19th, 2005, 12:22 AM Ignorance of the law is no excuse. try tellin' the judge you didn't know and he'll laugh at you. I also hope that you won't be drinking and driving anymore.
too many people have died because of drunk drivers.
MarkVlll Mike November 19th, 2005, 12:34 AM I also hope that you won't be drinking and driving anymore.
too many people have died because of drunk drivers.
You've got it wrong.
The license suspention is PA's universal punishment for being caught with alcohol in your system anywhere. Usually it happens to kids around campus on a thursday, friday, or saturday night. I've almost been caught a couple times, at WCU.
If he had been DUI'ed he'd have a hell of a alot longer of a suspension.
JC1994 November 19th, 2005, 01:14 AM I thought it was a DUI. My bad, sorry. how were you getting home that night?
designated driver?
94m5 November 19th, 2005, 02:00 AM You've got it wrong.
The license suspention is PA's universal punishment for being caught with alcohol in your system anywhere. Usually it happens to kids around campus on a thursday, friday, or saturday night. I've almost been caught a couple times, at WCU.
If he had been DUI'ed he'd have a hell of a alot longer of a suspension.
Yea, Unfortunatly the government is SLOWLY adding more and more reasons to take your Dl away from you, Minors have it the worst too. 2 moving Violations within a 24 month period in Illinois results in a 12 month suspension of driving "privlieges". This does'nt matter if you were speeding 2 MPH over the limit, or running 130 in a 55. Seat belts, obstruction of view, pretty much anything you can think of is a moving violation in this state. In addition to that a minors Dl can be suspended for simply being caught intoxicated. Does'nt matter if he had the keys to a car or not.
To top that off, it's only getting worse. (here anyway)
What the automotive community NEEDS to do, is start lobbying the senators and representatives in our government to start reversing some of the bull:q:q:q:q that has been put in to law. There are things in there that are ENTIRELY un-fair and should'nt be.
Don't get me wrong, DUI and all other alcohol/substance related driving offenses should be more than doubled in my opinion, but taking a kids DL away for drinking some beer??????
C'mon guys.....:mad:
Mike
mespock November 19th, 2005, 08:32 AM Don't get me wrong, DUI and all other alcohol/substance related driving offenses should be more than doubled in my opinion, but taking a kids DL away for drinking some beer??????
C'mon guys.....:mad:
Mike
I understand what they are trying to do. Law makers get his publicly by crying mother's who have lost their children to automotive accidents. These laws look good to the voting public.
I don't know if this is totally true yet or what but when I was in Germany in 1982 - yes I know Mike you weren't born yet!.. But what I was told by some German citizens was that it cost big dollars to get their driving privileges. To loose their license and then re-gain them would cost even more.
Drunk driving was something you didn't here of or at least I didn't while I was there.
They valued their license more, therefore took better care of keeping it. Now I'm not saying we need to copy this but, some of the dumb little laws might not even be thought of if our licenses held more value to us.
pepperman November 19th, 2005, 08:46 AM I understand what they are trying to do. Law makers get his publicly by crying mother's who have lost their children to automotive accidents. These laws look good to the voting public.
I don't know if this is totally true yet or what but when I was in Germany in 1982 - yes I know Mike you weren't born yet!.. But what I was told by some German citizens was that it cost big dollars to get their driving privileges. To loose their license and then re-gain them would cost even more.
Drunk driving was something you didn't here of or at least I didn't while I was there.
They valued their license more, therefore took better care of keeping it. Now I'm not saying we need to copy this but, some of the dumb little laws might not even be thought of if our licenses held more value to us.
:I Some people don't understand that driving is a privilage, not a right!!!
MrWilson November 19th, 2005, 09:54 AM well, as it stands, it is a right. If you turn 15,16,17,18 w/e it is, you get a license no questions asked (basicly) theres nothing you have to do to earn it. So in that sense it appears to most people IMHO to be a right.
pepperman November 19th, 2005, 10:40 AM I still see it as a privilage that has to be earned, by a written test and a driving test. Maybe some people see it as a right, IMHO it is a privilage!!!
rmac694203 November 19th, 2005, 05:14 PM It is a privilage that many people out there shouldn't have.
pepperman November 19th, 2005, 05:15 PM It is a privilage that many people out there shouldn't have.
:I
JC1994 November 19th, 2005, 05:59 PM a right is something that can't be taken away. a privilage is something that can be taken away, so driving is a privilage. also it costs $1500.00 to get your license in germany.
mholhut November 19th, 2005, 07:14 PM Last time I looked at the Constitution and the Bill of Rights... there was no mention of a right to a driver's license.
Regardless, you'll still have to take care where you choose to "exercise" driving on a suspended license. In MA, if your out-of-state license is suspended you will be arrested for operating without a license... not simply cited for operating after suspension. Then again, operate on a suspended license and get nailed in a traffic accident and you'd still be screwed. While you may be able to control your car, you can't control everyone else on the roads
PM me your DL# and I can check your status through the NJ DMV.
KD00LS November 19th, 2005, 08:39 PM It does not apply in new jersey. I live in Doylestown PA and got the same charge twice acctually.. you just cant drive in PA. I know this for a fact... I asked the judge, who acctually looked it up.. It does not and i repeat does not carry over into NJ... they just hit you for 480 bucks.. and like 100 for a reinstatement of driving priviliges in pa
Thanks for the information. So far the judge in Shippensburg did not know, the judge in Medford NJ did not know, it's just ridiculous that nobody knew. Good that it doesn't affect NJ, I wanted to drive over Thanksgiving break. Thanks for all the help guys, this is a good discussion. And no I wasn't driving, never would.
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