mespock July 7th, 2004, 09:36 PM Ok, who's taken out a window motor on a Mark VII?
How the :q do you get the motor off?
Where is it connected to the door? Yes, I see the motor at the bottom of the door -
I have the door pannel off and looking for where the motor gets mounted. I see the motor, but since it is inside the door I can't see or feel where the motor is bolted to the door, and who to remove it.
I see were the regulator is attached but fustrated that I can't find what is holding the motor on.
Sifrino3 July 7th, 2004, 09:37 PM You have to drill some holes or something. . . I need my pass window done. . .
mespock July 7th, 2004, 09:43 PM I thought this was going to be simple. The motor looked simple. By drilling Holes what do you mean? I see some rivets that hold the regulator.
Pepsi2185 July 7th, 2004, 10:43 PM yes, i do believe you have to drill those rivets (make sure you have replacement bolts). Enough for the regulator assembly to swing over to an opening in the door panel where you can remove it from the regulator. As always observe caution. The regulator assembly is spring loaded and the window is heavy!!
mespock July 8th, 2004, 12:50 AM Found this on another site:
POWER WINDOW GEAR REPLACEMENT - OPTION 1
Submitted by pro-five-oh / 10-18-01 (Some info courtesy of Yahoo Lincoln Group)
Doesn't the author look familar? :gr_hail: (pro-five-oh) Seems to answer a lot of tech questions. :steering:
"This is actually pretty easy and straight forward. First of all get the inside door panel off and take a look at the inner door skin. Put your hand inside the door cavity and locate the window motor.
Feeling between the door inner panel and the motor, locate the heads of the screws that attach the motor to the window regulator assembly. Adjacent to these screw heads, you should notice a dimple in the door inner panel sheet metal. Dimple is about 3/32" in diameter, and about 1/16" deep. There should be three(3) of them, one for each attaching screw.
Using a drill bit, or progressively larger drill bits, or better yet, a piloted 1/2" hole saw (the pilot is a 1/4' drill bit), drill three(3) holes big enough to clear the 5/16" socket required for the screw heads.
Use the 5/16" socket to remove the three screws attaching the window motor assembly to the regulator assembly.
Trace the motor lead wire to the outside of the inner door panel, and disconnect.
Reach inside the door cavity and pull or lift the motor off of the window regulator assembly. Snake it out through the opening that you are reaching in through.
Replace the motor assembly into the door cavity and mount it to the regulator assay. I use one of the devices that is commonly used to extract or pick up small screws or items that have fallen into hard to get at spaces. As you push the plunger forward, the end opens up with four (4) small fingers which can grasp the small screws, and allow you to put them through the holes and start the threads in the housing. Install and tighten all three attaching screws.
Reconnect the electrical connection, and try the motor function."
JoshMcMadMac July 8th, 2004, 08:52 AM Yea, glad you found that mespock. You do not need to pull the regulator to take care of the motor. While you are in there, lube the regulator and gear with real whit lithium grease. Don't use the spray on stuff, use the real grease. That will help keep the motor running well for a lot longer.
mespock July 8th, 2004, 09:17 AM Feeling between the door inner panel and the motor, locate the heads of the screws that attach the motor to the window regulator assembly. Adjacent to these screw heads, you should notice a dimple in the door inner panel sheet metal. Dimple is about 3/32" in diameter, and about 1/16" deep. There should be three(3) of them, one for each attaching screw.
I can only see one dimple. Does anyone know where I will find them incase I am just missing them.
There is another but it is so low on the door that I am not sure it is actually one. It is in the area of the window motor and where a screw could be.
JoshMcMadMac July 8th, 2004, 10:10 AM There should be three noticable dimples at the bottom of the door, right where the motor is on the inside.
mespock July 8th, 2004, 01:13 PM Motor went in easy. :tongue: I will post pictures of where to find the dimples and the whole. Plus Bit actual bit size I used.
Thanks to all for the help! :Beer
Now the only thing left to do is to recharge the AC and I will have a complete classic old school ride. :steering
Driving happy now that I can cop the lean witht he window down.
Found this on another site:
POWER WINDOW GEAR REPLACEMENT - OPTION 1
Submitted by pro-five-oh / 10-18-01 (Some info courtesy of Yahoo Lincoln Group)
Doesn't the author look familar? :gr_hail: (pro-five-oh) Seems to answer a lot of tech questions. :steering:
"This is actually pretty easy and straight forward. First of all get the inside door panel off and take a look at the inner door skin. Put your hand inside the door cavity and locate the window motor.
Feeling between the door inner panel and the motor, locate the heads of the screws that attach the motor to the window regulator assembly. Adjacent to these screw heads, you should notice a dimple in the door inner panel sheet metal. Dimple is about 3/32" in diameter, and about 1/16" deep. There should be three(3) of them, one for each attaching screw.
Using a drill bit, or progressively larger drill bits, or better yet, a piloted 1/2" hole saw (the pilot is a 1/4' drill bit), drill three(3) holes big enough to clear the 5/16" socket required for the screw heads.
Use the 5/16" socket to remove the three screws attaching the window motor assembly to the regulator assembly.
Trace the motor lead wire to the outside of the inner door panel, and disconnect.
Reach inside the door cavity and pull or lift the motor off of the window regulator assembly. Snake it out through the opening that you are reaching in through.
Replace the motor assembly into the door cavity and mount it to the regulator assay. I use one of the devices that is commonly used to extract or pick up small screws or items that have fallen into hard to get at spaces. As you push the plunger forward, the end opens up with four (4) small fingers which can grasp the small screws, and allow you to put them through the holes and start the threads in the housing. Install and tighten all three attaching screws.
Reconnect the electrical connection, and try the motor function."
JoshMcMadMac July 8th, 2004, 01:28 PM Glad to hear you got it all fixed!
mespock July 8th, 2004, 01:33 PM Glad to hear you got it all fixed!
Thanks for your help and support. :beer:
OldSchool1 July 10th, 2004, 02:08 AM Now the only thing left to do is to recharge the AC and I will have a complete classic old school ride. :steering
Driving happy now that I can cop the lean witht he window down.
Did somebody say OldSchool?
Try this on for (window) size:
http://www.lscclub.org/cars/oldschool3/images/oldschool3012.jpg
mespock July 10th, 2004, 08:41 AM Gee looks familar, Mine's just a darker brown.
JoshMcMadMac July 11th, 2004, 12:21 AM Gee looks familar, Mine's just a darker brown.
You don't have vent windows do you??
mespock July 11th, 2004, 09:27 AM You don't have vent windows do you??
No, no vent windows. I miss those.
tinkerin with lincoln August 1st, 2007, 07:18 PM Just pulled door panel off to get a look at things. It looks tight and my problem is my window is full down. Is there any way of raising it before I try to change the motor? Can I change it with the window full down? Appreciate any help.
OldSchool1 August 1st, 2007, 07:57 PM Just pulled door panel off to get a look at things. It looks tight and my problem is my window is full down. Is there any way of raising it before I try to change the motor? Can I change it with the window full down? Appreciate any help.
Welcome.
It's a a little involved but if you can use a drill and a nut driver, then you too can replace the window motor or just rebuild the window motor gear box.
See:
http://www.thelincolnmarkviiclub.org/tech/powerWindowMotorRepair.pdf
and
http://www.thelincolnmarkviiclub.org/tech/powerWindowMotorReplacement.pdf
http://thelincolnmarkviiclub.org/Gallery/albums/oldschool3/oldschool3082.sized.jpg
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