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2004 CTS Vs. 2003 Lincoln LS V8

UNVMYCTS
July 5th, 2004, 12:31 PM
I was just curious, a guy I work with has a 2003 Lincoln LS V8. When i got my 04 CTS he was saying how much faster the LS is. I was just wondering if anybody has any input on that. Although he has a little bigger engine is there a big difference in speed and power? Which is faster?

P.S. They are both Automatic

Sifrino3
July 5th, 2004, 03:29 PM
2003 Lincoln LS
3.9L V8
Hp ~ 280@6000rpm
Torque ~ 286@4000rpm
Weight ~ 3734
1/4 Time ~ 15.0
1/4 MPH ~ 94

2004 Cadillac CTS
3.2L V6
Hp ~ 220@6000rpm
Torque ~ 218@3400rpm
Weight ~ 3509
1/4 Time ~ 15.5
1/4 MPH ~ 92

Lincoln wins again!

JoshMcMadMac
July 6th, 2004, 08:42 AM
:iconcur:

UNVMYCTS
July 6th, 2004, 11:09 AM
i saw an article in Motor trend that showed the 1/4 mile for the CTS at under 15 secs.

JoshMcMadMac
July 6th, 2004, 01:27 PM
i saw an article in Motor trend that showed the 1/4 mile for the CTS at under 15 secs.
A ricer told me his Honda can do an 11 second quarter mile. No offense, but it means nothing without some proof. Not calling you a liar, as I have no reason to. Just making the point that claims are hard to believe when they don't have any backing. I cannot see a 220HP, 218lb-ft car weighing in at close to 2 tons with driver going sub-15. The 255hp, 252lb-ft 3.6L option with a manual and a good driver might put it where you are talking, but I can't see it being a regular occurance either.

UNVMYCTS
July 6th, 2004, 01:33 PM
I agree, I really don't know either. I can believe that the LS is faster. I was just curious. I see alot of different time specs on cars. Thank You!

Sifrino3
July 6th, 2004, 03:21 PM
Not a Prob!

Gothicaleigh
July 10th, 2004, 05:42 PM
The 2004 V6 Cadillac CTS is a 3.6L with 255hp and variable valve timing. This is the current automatic.
The 220hp 3.2L is available, but as a manual.

Nice try using the old stats though... ;)

Gothicaleigh
July 10th, 2004, 06:58 PM
You also must have picked those above times out of a Ford Fan Fiction magazine. Please reference your sources when quoting times.

2004 Lincoln LS V8
0-60: 6.96 seconds
1/4 mile: 15.27 seconds
Source: http://autos.msn.com/research/vip/Spec_Glance.aspx?modelid=10766&trimid=97213&src=VIP

2004 Cadillac CTS 3.6L
0-60: 6.71
1/4 mile: 15.15
Source: http://autos.msn.com/research/vip/Spec_Glance.aspx?modelid=10772&trimid=-1&src=VIP&tab=2&sub=0

2004 Cadillac CTS 3.2L
0-60: 7.06
1/4 mile: 15.54
source: http://autos.msn.com/research/vip/Spec_Glance.aspx?modelid=10772&trimid=-1&src=VIP&tab=2&sub=0



2003 CTS 3.2L 220hp V6/5 speed Automatic
0-50, s. 5.10
0-60, s. 6.86
0-70, s. 9.05
1/4 Mile, s. 15.20
Source: Motor Trend Aug. 2002

Of course, we should be comparing V8 to V8, but I don't want to be mean... :gr_devil:

Gothicaleigh
July 10th, 2004, 08:19 PM
Don't like MSN? Here are Motor Trend's numbers:

2003 Lincoln LS V8 (the last time they reviewed an LS)
0-60, s. 6.8
1/4 mile, s. 15.02 @ 92.8 mph
Source: Motor Trend
http://motortrend.com/roadtests/sedan/112_0305_lsm45/index4.html

2004 Cadillac CTS V6 3.6L
0-60, s. 6.4
1/4 mile, s. 14.92 @ 92.72
Source: Motor Trend
http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/sedan/112_0308_frst_cts/index.html

What the heck, I may as well toss in the V while I'm at it:
Cadillac CTS-V LS6 V8
0-60, s. 5.1
1/4 mile, s. 13.48 @ 105.33
Source: Motor Trend
http://motortrend.com/roadtests/luxury/112_0404_400club/index6.html (outperforming the Jag S-type R)

Gothicaleigh
July 10th, 2004, 08:44 PM
Need more? Here's Road&Track:

In 2002, R&T included the 3.2L CTS and the LS V6 in a sport sedan comparo. The CTS came in 8th and the LS dead last at 11th. Here is the review:
http://www.roadandtrack.com/article.asp?section_id=3&article_id=236&page_number=1&preview=

Of course, both cars have better current versions, but it is one of the very few times that they met head to head in a major publication.

Lincolnman
July 10th, 2004, 10:17 PM
Those drag racing stats don't mean a thing on the highway. Neither does it mean a thing at most stop lights. Under heavy traffic conditions or on any interstate I'll take on a cts and some bmw's in my V6LS!! :give

Gothicaleigh
July 10th, 2004, 10:29 PM
I know that the dragstrip numbers don't mean a thing...
The CTS only gets better in the twisties. :D

Lincolnman
July 10th, 2004, 10:36 PM

Lincolnman
July 10th, 2004, 10:37 PM
COME ON BABY LETS DO THE TWIST :dancefool

JoshMcMadMac
July 11th, 2004, 01:31 AM
Wow, ok. Now that we have that straight. :p

Sifrino3
July 11th, 2004, 01:33 AM
Its fight night!

JohnnyBz00LS
July 14th, 2004, 08:42 AM
WOW, impressive bench racing going on in here! Anyone actually get to a track?

MarkOfDeath
July 14th, 2004, 11:55 AM
oh forget the LS, tell the CTS boys to come get some, ya am running a Mark VIII, ya it has fuh tens, forget what you boys learned on the internut

:bow:

Gothicaleigh
July 14th, 2004, 01:33 PM
Stock Mark times from MT, R&T, and C&D:

1986 Lincoln Mark VII LSC 8.4 16.6
1992 Lincoln Mark VII LSC 7.8 16.2
1993 Lincoln Mark VIII 7.1 15.4
1995 Lincoln Mark VIII 7.6 15.8
1996 Lincoln Mark VIII 7.2 15.4
1998 Lincoln Mark VIII LSC 7.0 15.3

Bad69Cad
July 14th, 2004, 08:26 PM
love the #'s


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