Joeychgo March 3rd, 2004, 02:27 AM I pick these:
1969 Mustang Boss 302
1969 Chevelle SS 396 aka "Black Belt"
1972 Baracuda 383
1966 GTO
1966 Corvette
1wykdmk8 March 15th, 2004, 02:48 PM I pick these:
1969 Mustang Boss 302
1969 Chevelle SS 396 aka "Black Belt"
1972 Baracuda 383
1966 GTO
1966 Corvette
I would have to go with:
1965 Mustang Shelby GT350
1970 Chevelle LS-6 454 SS
1970 426 Hemi Barracuda 425HP
1970 GTO Judge Convertible
1966 Corvette 427 L7-2 425HP
1966 SHelby Cobra 427 425HP
1969 Plymouth Superbird 426 Hemi
1969 or 1970 Dodge Dart Hemi stripped down drag car you could buy for the street
apbpetey March 29th, 2004, 03:41 PM I would go with the following:
1970 Hemi Barracuda
1967 Covette 427 convt
1965 Shelby GT350
1969 Yenko 427 Camaro
1966 Chevelle (I don't like the fastback as much)
1966 GTO
Spidar6996 March 29th, 2004, 05:25 PM 1969 Yenko 427 Camaro
1966 GTO
1971 Cuda
1965 Vett 396
1968 Pontiac GTO "Judge"
:Beer :nos:
Jibit March 30th, 2004, 12:46 PM My all time favorite is the 1970 Olds 442 Convertible with the Hurst package.
Spidar6996 March 30th, 2004, 02:48 PM That is a great car I know a guy that had one till an 18 wheeler backed over it in a parking lot. He never had the heart to have it fixed so he sold it.
BlackIceLSC April 13th, 2004, 09:25 AM I would have to go with the following, in no particular order:
1970 Plymouth Hemi 'Cuda convertible
1969 Plymouth Roadrunner 440-6pack(or Hemi!!!)
1970 Plymouth 'Cuda 440-6pack(or Hemi!!!)
1968 1/2 Mustang GT (428 CJ)
1967 Shelby GT-500(w/early 427)
1964 Ford Thunderbolt
1968 Hemi Dart
1969 Corvette 427/435 tri-power roadster
1967 Dodge Coronet Convt w/Hemi
1968 Chevy Camaro RS/SS 396 Convert.(drove one once-liked it)
and all time "dream machine"
1969 Mustang Boss 429(a raven Black one!!!)
Spidar6996 April 13th, 2004, 09:48 PM I would have to go with the following, in no particular order:
1970 Plymouth Hemi 'Cuda convertible
1969 Plymouth Roadrunner 440-6pack(or Hemi!!!)
1970 Plymouth 'Cuda 440-6pack(or Hemi!!!)
1968 1/2 Mustang GT (428 CJ)
1967 Shelby GT-500(w/early 427)
1964 Ford Thunderbolt
1968 Hemi Dart
1969 Corvette 427/435 tri-power roadster
1967 Dodge Coronet Convt w/Hemi
1968 Chevy Camaro RS/SS 396 Convert.(drove one once-liked it)
and all time "dream machine"
1969 Mustang Boss 429(a raven Black one!!!)
:Beer Nice choices
Black87LSC May 26th, 2004, 10:17 AM You guys are forgetting one car though.... The '70 Buick GSX with the Stage 1 455! Only offered in two colors though (Yellow with Black Stripes or White with Black Stripes) Everybody needs one of these cars! :steering
mespock June 27th, 2004, 10:48 AM Don't forget the Dodge Coronet 500 Simple but they could fly.
Why are the classics the cars that they always crash in Movies :confused:
Makes me want to cry everytime I see them put one on the screen, because I know it's going to die. :(
It's kind of like the name less guy on Star Trek, you always knew he was going to be the one to die from the landing party.
Remember The Days of the Jacked up @$$ on cars. You had to wear your seat belt just to keep you from slidding off the vinyl into the dash LOL.
hintsclue June 27th, 2004, 04:33 PM Only one I can think of--1969 ZL1 COPO Camaro :D
Sifrino3 June 27th, 2004, 06:26 PM We need pictures for these sweet H.R.!
MonsterMark June 27th, 2004, 08:44 PM My all time favorite is the 1970 Olds 442 Convertible with the Hurst package.
Man Jibit, we are on the same page there. I almost bought a blue one from the Volo museum in Illinois 2 years ago. My favorite car. Something they did during the body off restoration scared my off. Still looking for another one though. I would love to send it to that show where they steal the guy's car and totally redo it in 1 week. Those guys are crazy and their cars are incredible works of art.
Anybody want to steal my car???
JoshMcMadMac June 28th, 2004, 08:59 AM I dig the 442 as well. And the Roadrunner. The 'Cuda is hard to argue.
My personal favorite though is a 69 Vette convertible with the L89 427 putting out a very underrated 435hp.
JohnnyBz00LS July 13th, 2004, 02:35 PM My all time favorite is the 1970 Olds 442 Convertible with the Hurst package.
You are referring to the Hurst shifter (4-spd) or Hurst dual-gate (AT), correct? Because there was no Hurst/Olds built in '70 or '71. The H/O returned in '72 and paced the Indy 500 (the '70 442 Indy pace car was not a H/O). There were even H/O Vista Cruiser wagons built for track duty that year (now THAT's my idea of a SUV !!). The only H/O 'verts besides the '72s are the TWO '69s built for show duty, one was sighted extensively w/ Linda Vaugh riding on the rear deck lid w/ a 8' Hurst shifter, and the other was given to Linda herself.
But I'd have to agree, it's hard to top a '70 W30 442 'vert. A '70 LS6 SS Chevelle 'vert, a '70 GSX Stage 1 'vert or a '70 455-HO GTO 'vert would suffice in a pinch. ;) I'd even suffer in one of the 8 '69 T/A 'verts, 4-spd preferred.
JohnnyBz00LS July 13th, 2004, 02:40 PM 1969 Yenko 427 Camaro
1966 GTO
1971 Cuda
1965 Vett 396
1968 Pontiac GTO "Judge"
FYI, the "Judge" didn't appear as an option on the GTO until '69. But I get your point, '68s were very similar to '69s. The '68-'72 GM A-bodies are my favorite from that era, easily swallow a big-block and can transfer weight on launch quite well.
Jibit July 13th, 2004, 02:53 PM [QUOTE=JohnnyBz00LS]You are referring to the Hurst shifter (4-spd) or Hurst dual-gate (AT), correct?[QUOTE]
I was referring to the Hurst dual-gate, I guess I was a little misleading when I said Hurst package. I like that year because I like the front end with the headlight together and it still had the 455 in it. If I'm not mistaken, the HP started to decrease in the 442 after '70. Or maybe they were just rated less by Oldsmobile. I've heard tales that the manufacturers claimed less HP back then so that insurance wasn't as expensive.
JohnnyBz00LS July 13th, 2004, 04:43 PM [QUOTE=JohnnyBz00LS]You are referring to the Hurst shifter (4-spd) or Hurst dual-gate (AT), correct?[QUOTE]
I was referring to the Hurst dual-gate, I guess I was a little misleading when I said Hurst package. I like that year because I like the front end with the headlight together and it still had the 455 in it. If I'm not mistaken, the HP started to decrease in the 442 after '70. Or maybe they were just rated less by Oldsmobile. I've heard tales that the manufacturers claimed less HP back then so that insurance wasn't as expensive.
Yep, other than the H/O and Yenko / COPO cars, '70 was the 1st year GM allowed an engine w/ greater than 400 ci into an A-body. In '71, GM dropped compression ratios in all their engines to meet emissions, and HP dropped accordingly (some Ford and Mopar engines retained the higher CRs / HP into '71). In '72, the "net HP" rating (vs. "gross HP" rating) standards went into effect, so the same engine in '71-'72 had lower HP ratings in '72. So 1970 stands as the one year where HP peaked for many GM cars. And yes, many engines were under-rated by the factory for insurance reasons, but this practice started in the mid-late '60s (the Chevy L88 and Shelby Cobra 427 comes to mind). I've seen articles that contained "proof" that the W31 and W30 Olds engines were under-rated as well. The Chevy and Ford 302 ci engines used in the Z28 and Boss 302s (both rated at 290HP) were also under-rated, but that may have been driven more by their participation in Trans Am racing than insurance reasons. Even today, some engines are under-rated (f-body LS1s and '03+ S/C Cobra engines). Remember in '99, SVT learned a hard lesson to NOT over-rate their engine output. It's better to be conservative.
codewize July 13th, 2004, 10:27 PM I don't think many people are familiar with that one. The COPO is pretty rare. That and the Yenko would be my personal favorites, without making a long list :) including certain GTO's and Tempest, Mustangs, 63' vettes and all that jaz... :dancefool
Only one I can think of--1969 ZL1 COPO Camaro :D
JoshMcMadMac July 14th, 2004, 12:04 AM ...63' vettes...
But he said 1964 :p
Lincolnman July 14th, 2004, 11:41 PM how about the 1969 Mercury Cyclone 427 :biggrin:
1965cobra427 August 14th, 2004, 10:42 PM These are the best I've had ...
1966 Plymouth Belvedere II Street Hemi
1969 Camaro Z28 RS
1965 Cobra 427 - Mine's a (clone)
None fast be today's standars, but still a gas to drive!
codewize August 15th, 2004, 12:15 AM You're still forgeting a car. What about the 409 Impala
virginiafiveo September 19th, 2004, 05:26 PM 1969 camaro baldwin motion
chevelle ss (pick a year)
Katshot September 20th, 2004, 07:12 AM I'd have to say 1969 and 1970 were the two best years for muscle cars, PERIOD! I had a '70 'Cuda, and '69 Mustang fastback myself. Face it, most cars after 1970 were either slower, uglier, or BOTH.
virginiafiveo September 20th, 2004, 07:56 AM agreed
squirell September 20th, 2004, 03:44 PM 1970 LS-6 Chevelle
1970 Hemi Cuda
1968 L-88 Vette
wetsidewagon October 2nd, 2004, 03:37 AM 69 Camaro
66 Ford GT40 MkII (weren't they made in Britain?)
Shelby Daytona Coupe
Shelby Cobra
70 Chevelle
Don't forget about this american muscle car
1935 Duesenberg SJ "Mormon Meteor" Speedster
http://autos.msn.com/as/minishow/article.aspx?contentID=4022627&s=pebble2004&src=minishow
http://www.supercars.net/cars/1935@$Duesenberg@$SJ%20Mormon%20Meteor%20Speedster x.html
wetsidewagon October 2nd, 2004, 03:55 AM http://www.supercars.net/cars/1935@$Duesenberg@$SJ%20Mormon%20Meteor%20Speedster x.html
http://www.supercars.net/cars/1935@$Duesenberg@$SJ%20Mormon%20Meteor%20Speedster x.html (http://)
pepperman October 2nd, 2004, 08:09 AM 1970 Plymouth Cuda
1968 Ford Shelby Mustang GT500
1971 Buick GSX
1970 Pontaic GTO Judge
1969 Chevelle Super Sport
1971 Plymouth Road Runner
1969 Dodge Daytona Pro Street
1970 Oldsmobile 442 W-30
1968 Chevrolet Camaro RS/SS
1971 Pontaic GTO Judge
1970 Plymouth Super Bird
squirell October 2nd, 2004, 08:19 AM
JoshMcMadMac October 2nd, 2004, 01:07 PM Nice pictures, Squirell! Is that a real 1970 Chevelle LS6? Those are pretty rare, and definately one of the greatest factory hotrods in my book!
squirell October 2nd, 2004, 02:29 PM That's the real deal.
Family owned since 1975 with only 38,000 orig miles.
95% of the paint and interior are orig.
JoshMcMadMac October 2nd, 2004, 03:03 PM That's the real deal.
Family owned since 1975 with only 38,000 orig miles.
95% of the paint and interior are orig.
:gr_hail: <<drool>> congratulations man, that is a beautiful vehicle in amazing condition.
unityerased October 3rd, 2004, 11:18 AM very nice.
MarkedMan October 8th, 2004, 08:02 AM Pepperman is the only one here that got the Buick GSX.Everyone talks about GTOs or Mustangs or Chevelles. What about the Buicks. Now to me theres power.Quick and classy.I myself am a Buick man and have been. To me thats a car to have its not like you could go to your local walmart and buy an intake for it like you could a chevy.To me chevys are soo played out I hate going to a classic car show and seeing chevys how many times do you see the same old thing.I like being different and to me Buicks are that.Your in a different class when you own a Buick
Jibit October 8th, 2004, 08:10 AM What about the Oldsmobile 442? That's classy, that's power! BTW, I think you need to revise your signature, it still has the Buik on it!
Katshot October 8th, 2004, 09:09 AM Buick GNX. Probably the fastest Buick ever built. But it's not as "classy" as the older iron of the 60's and 70's IMO.
You want to be REALLY different? Try hot-rodding a CADILLAC!!! :steering
Gothicaleigh October 8th, 2004, 02:29 PM Buick GNX?
I thought this thread was about 60's to '70's muscle cars...
If it's open to anything, I want to nominate the Cadillac CTS-V. With 400hp, I'd say it qualifies. :D
Katshot October 8th, 2004, 02:35 PM I just wanted to make MarkedMan feel better by pointing out that Buick did, in fact sell at least one fast car. And I'll agree with you on the CTS-V. Hot car!
MarkedMan October 8th, 2004, 02:38 PM What about the Oldsmobile 442? That's classy, that's power! BTW, I think you need to revise your signature, it still has the Buik on it!
Did you mean Buick.
Jibit October 8th, 2004, 02:43 PM Did you mean Buick.
you know I meant Buick, I didn't spell check before I posted
squirell October 8th, 2004, 03:09 PM I just wanted to make MarkedMan feel better by pointing out that Buick did, in fact sell at least one fast car. And I'll agree with you on the CTS-V. Hot car!
They had fast cars in the 60 and 70's too.
How about the 455 stage 1's
Katshot October 8th, 2004, 06:19 PM Sure they were fast but not even CLOSE to a modern day GNX, or even a Grand National. Matter of fact, I'll bet a stock Regal GS with a oulley kit would smoke one. The old saying "there's no replacement for displacement" just doesn't work anymore. The replacement is "technology" my freinds.
Imperial pilot x December 6th, 2004, 10:44 AM Sure they were fast but not even CLOSE to a modern day GNX, or even a Grand National. Matter of fact, I'll bet a stock Regal GS with a oulley kit would smoke one. The old saying "there's no replacement for displacement" just doesn't work anymore. The replacement is "technology" my freinds.
umm. no. If technology reffering to forced induction surely a forced induction car could beat a naturally aspirated car depending on the specs.. a stock Regal T type is like 270 hp 14s all day.. Sure buicks first attempts at the gran sport were not that great with the old "Nail head" ( small ass valves ) but once they got that stage 1 455 in 69 and 70 these cars can really move. Yeah if you beefed up the turbo on a 3.8 G body they haul ass.. But their just avg high 13 to 14 second cars.. no different from the predecessor.. I like those cars alot and easilly run fast. but arguing a car with a turbocharger vs N/A is stupid. technology might bring us better turbos and means of forced induction, better head design or cam grinds etc. But my friend as long as youre in the world of a reciprocating internal combustion engine SIZE MATTERS. Period. The final part of my argument is a top fuel dragster. Look one up. Look at the horsepower rating. Look at the size of the engine. Look at the fact they use forced induction. Look how fast they go. Then ask is their anything with smaller displacement going faster or making more power than one of these ? with using "technology" ? A honda cant beat a built big block by doing a simple chip upgrade to inhance its fuel/air ratio or timing. :soapbox: P.S one of my favorite cars is the 69 ZL1 camaro.. no one ever talks about it.
1wykdmk8 December 6th, 2004, 12:26 PM umm. no. If technology reffering to forced induction surely a forced induction car could beat a naturally aspirated car depending on the specs.. a stock Regal T type is like 270 hp 14s all day.. Sure buicks first attempts at the gran sport were not that great with the old "Nail head" ( small ass valves ) but once they got that stage 1 455 in 69 and 70 these cars can really move. Yeah if you beefed up the turbo on a 3.8 G body they haul ass.. But their just avg high 13 to 14 second cars.. no different from the predecessor.. I like those cars alot and easilly run fast. but arguing a car with a turbocharger vs N/A is stupid. technology might bring us better turbos and means of forced induction, better head design or cam grinds etc. But my friend as long as youre in the world of a reciprocating internal combustion engine SIZE MATTERS. Period. The final part of my argument is a top fuel dragster. Look one up. Look at the horsepower rating. Look at the size of the engine. Look at the fact they use forced induction. Look how fast they go. Then ask is their anything with smaller displacement going faster or making more power than one of these ? with using "technology" ? A honda cant beat a built big block by doing a simple chip upgrade to inhance its fuel/air ratio or timing. :soapbox: P.S one of my favorite cars is the 69 ZL1 camaro.. no one ever talks about it.
:I .....but what do I know.....LOL
Oooooo....... Copo Camaro......:D :Beer
MarkedMan December 7th, 2004, 02:05 PM :I .....but what do I know.....LOL
Oooooo....... Copo Camaro......:D :Beer
Copo Camaro now thats a rare car.Being that most of them were made into Yenkos
MrWilson December 23rd, 2004, 11:31 AM Come check out my site on C'D', i have painstakingly put together the top 49 muscle cars.http://www.cardomain.com/memberpage/565629/6
UBAP/89LSC December 23rd, 2004, 11:52 AM Along time ago in a land far away a young teenager (me)was looking for a new Barracuda(late 1970).Went down to the local dealer and found a Hemi orange Cuda' with a Hemi and a black vinyl top,pistol grip 4 speed etc.that the dealer was trying to get rid of/leftover offered it to me for $3800.00 and I turned it down because it was a column shift not floor.still to this day kicking myself in the ass everytime I think about how naive Iwas :Bang :slam
MrWilson December 23rd, 2004, 10:14 PM can i kick you in the ass!? OH, if people only knew what would become of these cars! :Bang
JohnnyBz00LS April 21st, 2005, 03:13 PM Wow, haven't posted / looked at this thread for a while, need to visit more often.
Nice pictures, Squirell! Is that a real 1970 Chevelle LS6? Those are pretty rare, and definately one of the greatest factory hotrods in my book!
Actually, the most common engine option in '70 Chevelle SSs was the LS6, they out-numbered the LS5 454 and both 396s that were offered. When compared to Stage-1 Buicks or W30 Olds of the same year ('70), LS6s were pretty common, hardly "rare".
Not to dis the LS6s, they are still bad-azz cars, just not as rare as most people think.
:Beer
JohnnyBz00LS April 21st, 2005, 03:43 PM How about ranking the best engines, in the following displacement classes:
7.5L (~455ci): My vote would have to be the Chevy LS6 454, tough to deny the highest factory HP rating of the day. However, Buick Stage-1s would be hard to argue against.
7.0L (~427ci): HEMI, no question.
6.6L (~400ci): Pontiac RA-IV were about as wicked as they came. L89 396s and the early, '66-'67 W30 Olds were close 2nds.
5.7L (~350ci): Olds W31, show me any another small block that runs 13s in a 3400 lb car. LT1s in Novas don't count.
5.0L (~305ci): I'd say it's a tossup between the '67-'69 Z28s and Boss 302 motors.
squirell April 23rd, 2005, 02:01 PM Wow, haven't posted / looked at this thread for a while, need to visit more often.
Actually, the most common engine option in '70 Chevelle SSs was the LS6, they out-numbered the LS5 454 and both 396s that were offered. When compared to Stage-1 Buicks or W30 Olds of the same year ('70), LS6s were pretty common, hardly "rare".
Not to dis the LS6s, they are still bad-azz cars, just not as rare as most people think.
:Beer
Hate to burst your bubble Johnny, you are way off :
1970 Chevelle SS
L-34 396 51,437 made
L-78 396 2144 made
L-89 396 18 made (aluminum heads)
LS-5 454 4298 made
LS-6 454 4475 made
Only 7 percent were ls-6 cars
Of that less than 10 percent of LS-6 cars were automatics.
That makes mine pretty rare.
Black87LSC April 23rd, 2005, 08:54 PM My uncle used to have one, dark green w/white stripes, LS6 auto. I think that was his favorite car, and im sure he regrets selling it every day.
mespock April 24th, 2005, 08:57 PM 1969 Dodge Charger Daytona :Beer
JohnnyBz00LS April 26th, 2005, 08:13 AM Hate to burst your bubble Johnny, you are way off :
1970 Chevelle SS
L-34 396 51,437 made
L-78 396 2144 made
L-89 396 18 made (aluminum heads)
LS-5 454 4298 made
LS-6 454 4475 made
Only 7 percent were ls-6 cars
Of that less than 10 percent of LS-6 cars were automatics.
That makes mine pretty rare.
My bad, I don't remember the article I read in MCR listing the L34. Either that or their mentioning that the 325HP 396 was dropped as the standard SS motor for '70 confused my memory of the details. Anyway, the thing I did remember was that the LS-6 was not the most rare optional motor like most people think (the article was about an L89 '70 SS). Thanks for clarifying.
Actually, now that I re-read my statement: "Actually, the most common engine option in '70 Chevelle SSs was the LS6, they out-numbered the LS5 454 and both 396s that were offered.", if the L34 was "standard" in the SS, then I really didn't mis-state anything.
Just to confirm, the L34 was rated 350HP, L78 and L89 were both 375HP, the LS5 was 380HP (?) and the LS6 was 450HP, right?
Cubster April 26th, 2005, 09:36 AM Without a doubt the 1969 Corvette L-88 with the ZL1 heads, 500+ HP would do in the high 10's off the showroom floor, the Dodge Hemi would be a close 2nd
bufordtpisser April 26th, 2005, 12:13 PM I had both a 70 Olds w-30 and a 69 Buick GS Stage 1. Both great cars but the olds was by far the best. The low end torque was enough to make you want to have shocks installed in the back of your eyes so that they wouldn't smack the back of your head. All cars listed were great cars though, at least in some drivers mind.
:L
Jporter April 26th, 2005, 01:15 PM When I was a kid my uncle had a 69 corvette he made it look like the mako or manta(?) my brother would know. Anyway, that was nice, and with me being little it was scary looking. still afraid of sharks 30 odd years later.
67Continental April 26th, 2005, 05:55 PM How about ranking the best engines, in the following displacement classes:
7.5L (~455ci): My vote would have to be the Chevy LS6 454, tough to deny the highest factory HP rating of the day. However, Buick Stage-1s would be hard to argue against.
7.0L (~427ci): HEMI, no question.
6.6L (~400ci): Pontiac RA-IV were about as wicked as they came. L89 396s and the early, '66-'67 W30 Olds were close 2nds.
5.7L (~350ci): Olds W31, show me any another small block that runs 13s in a 3400 lb car. LT1s in Novas don't count.
5.0L (~305ci): I'd say it's a tossup between the '67-'69 Z28s and Boss 302 motors.
most of these displacement classes are exclusively GM, or at least, dominated by GM. Why not give ranges instead of exact displacement numbers? I guess dodge wins best 5.2l :soapbox:
JohnnyBz00LS April 27th, 2005, 10:09 AM most of these displacement classes are exclusively GM, or at least, dominated by GM. Why not give ranges instead of exact displacement numbers? I guess dodge wins best 5.2l :soapbox:
OK, hows this?
~7.5L (440-460ci)
~7.0L (421-430ci)
~6.6L (383-409ci)
~5.7L (340-360ci)
~5.0L (301-330ci)
<5.0L (260-289ci)
I still may have missed a couple engines in the gaps, but they probably weren't noteworthy anyway. I didn't intend to "stack the cards" so that GM would "dominate". With few exceptions, GM does that all by themselves. :N
squirell April 27th, 2005, 01:38 PM My bad, I don't remember the article I read in MCR listing the L34. Either that or their mentioning that the 325HP 396 was dropped as the standard SS motor for '70 confused my memory of the details. Anyway, the thing I did remember was that the LS-6 was not the most rare optional motor like most people think (the article was about an L89 '70 SS). Thanks for clarifying.
Actually, now that I re-read my statement: "Actually, the most common engine option in '70 Chevelle SSs was the LS6, they out-numbered the LS5 454 and both 396s that were offered.", if the L34 was "standard" in the SS, then I really didn't mis-state anything.
Just to confirm, the L34 was rated 350HP, L78 and L89 were both 375HP, the LS5 was 380HP (?) and the LS6 was 450HP, right?
Yup,
except the LS-5 was rated at 390 HP
daves2000ls December 7th, 2005, 04:21 PM 1969 Boss 302
1968 GTO Judge
68 Camaro Z28 or SS
1968 Mustang GT fastback with 390(BULLITT)
Any hemi cuda
1966 Shelby GT350S
Stack December 16th, 2005, 06:57 AM GREAT LISTS!!!!
I got a ride in a friends Dad's "black belt" Chevelle in Florida...
4Sp Rock Crusher woo hoo was that thing a freaking blast! He was one hell of a driver and cool as all get out. That car had more trophies than the 92 Dream team!!! What a b e a u tiful example it was...
Went back not too long ago to find out HE SOLD IT!!! But he is on to something else now, I will see what when I go home for Christmas!
Fleet July 23rd, 2006, 08:22 PM I like both U.S. luxury cars and '60s/early '70s muscle cars.
I've always favored the Mopars, but like all the other brands, too.
Check out this ad which appeared in the June, 1970 issue of Car & Driver. Sox & Martin tested the latest Plymouth muscle cars.
Note that the '70 Hemicuda ran a best of 13.39 secs @ 108.17 mph... and this on 1970s tires!
decibels5 July 23rd, 2006, 08:29 PM 1968 chevrolet corvette with a 427 big block and a 4 speed on the floor. i drove one once, and it was like ice skating, and my very own 67 chevy II with a 327 and a auto 3 speed
Fleet July 23rd, 2006, 08:38 PM I'm sure many of you know that the actual gross horsepower of '60s muscle car engines were on purpose advertised lower-than-actual.
For instance, the 335-hp rating of the Ford 428 Cobra Jet is a joke. It's more like 410 hp.
Same with the 455 Buick GS Stage 1... rated at 360, more like 420.
And the Mopar Hemi... rated at 425, actual hp around 470.
Here is a chart for comparison:
Sergmark July 23rd, 2006, 10:17 PM I had a 69 corvette 427 rated 390 hp But I had it bulit up with a 4:56 rear and a close ratio 4 speed maybe 425 hp great street car What a fun car for a ninteen year old.:eek: :eek:
Over2tonsofFun July 24th, 2006, 10:24 PM Because there was no Hurst/Olds built in '70 or '71. The H/O returned in '72 and paced the Indy 500 (the '70 442 Indy pace car was not a H/O). There were even H/O Vista Cruiser wagons built for track duty that year (now THAT's my idea of a SUV !!).
There was accually two H/O wagons built one for the press and one medical, my best friend drove one during the olds 100 anniversary parade in Lansing( don't know which one).
my list:
70 Buick GS stage 1 ( fastest 4 seat muscle car :gr_hail: :gr_hail:) had one that ran mid 12s with only cam, headers,and dual quads, drove to track days with the A/C on. here hemi, hemi
70 GTO ram air 4
72 Buick GS stage 2
64 Galaxie 427 SOHC
66-67 Hemi 4 doors the original sleeper
71 Buick GS stage 1 Convert. dream car
73 Buick Gran sport Stage 1 4 speed suncoupe
Yeah, I like my Buick muscle
Tim
cavemansmarkviii September 12th, 2006, 07:13 PM 1964 Ford Fairlane Thunderbolt
1970 Yenko Deuce (Nova) LS-6
1973 Pontiac Trans Am Super Duty
1968 Race Hemi Dart
1968 1\2 Ford Mustang 428 CJ
1970 Buick GS 455 Stage 1
1970 Olds W30
1970 Hemi 'Cuda
1970 Chevelle SS 454 LS-6
1969 Trans Am Ram Air IV
1969 Corvette with ZL-1 427
Anything with Fords 427 SOHC (Seen and ridden in, BIG POWER)
Brozly September 12th, 2006, 09:52 PM Boy, you guy's are makeing me feel bad, Nobody even mentioned Anything from AMC..., I realize they didn't have a Big block, but ...
"Even before it was introduced to the public at the Chicago Auto Show on February 23, 1968, the AMX broke 106 National and International speed records with Craig Breedlove behind the wheel. Breedlove would take the AMX to Bonneville and run an official 189 mph with an unofficial run of over 200 mph."
And they were Big in TranAm as well http://www.amx-perience.com/Trans-AmRacing.htm
cavemansmarkviii September 12th, 2006, 11:04 PM It's ok, we know AMC's need love also. The early 390 AMX's were fast, but not as quick as most on at least my list. I've been 150 in one though.:D
Brozly September 14th, 2006, 02:32 PM No, maybe not but they must've been pretty close...
The Super Stock "SS" AMX
The best known special edition AMXs were modified for AMC by Hurst to meet NHRA Super Stock class drag racing regulations. This was AMC's offering to the muscle car horsepower wars of the era. The infamous "69 AMX SS" -- perhaps the best (race setup) -- Detroit ever offered in a production vehicle. Fifty-two AMXs with 390s and 4-speed transmissions with virtually no change to the suspension, received special equipment including Edelbrock cross-ram intakes, dual-quad Holleys, and 12.3:1 Crane modified heads. They were drastically under-rated at 340 "official" horsepower. The first out-of-the-box AMX's were running 11 second et's at over 120 mph. These AMXs were "turn-key" race cars. Later that year with a little tweaking and backing by AMC, these cars dipped into the 10 second range. Shirley Shahan's "Drag-On-Lady" was most famous of these cars.
http://www.socalamx.net/theamxstory/index.htm
mespock September 14th, 2006, 06:08 PM Boy that was fun re-reading this thread.
93hotrodlincoln August 16th, 2007, 09:54 PM I vote 1970 -1971 Ford Torino 429 scj or Mercury cyclone spoiler. I love driving my old muscle car!:D (1971 Mercury Montego)
MERIJONS97LSC August 23rd, 2007, 03:41 AM The ONE muscle car that started it ALL!! THE 1964 GTO 289 3 2'S
Garbone August 23rd, 2007, 11:39 AM I'd have to go with the '67 Ford Fairlane, with the 427 Medium Riser, with the dual 4's, the big top loader, and the 9" detroit locker...
Garbone August 23rd, 2007, 11:41 AM Ooops, I think that Pontiac had a "389"
Garbone August 23rd, 2007, 11:42 AM Just so no one thinks I a dumb a$$, the ford IS a 67, but with '66 tail lights...
ONEBADMK8 August 23rd, 2007, 12:03 PM I'd have to go with my 68 Plymouth R Code 440 Satellite.
http://www.lincolnmotorsport.com/images/ply21small.jpg
http://www.lincolnmotorsport.com/images/ply20.jpg
http://www.lincolnmotorsport.com/images/ply33.jpg
http://www.lincolnmotorsport.com/images/ply41.jpg
Garbone August 23rd, 2007, 12:14 PM Here's a '69 AMX, with my good buddy Brad, in front of it
Brad drives a town car, and he has a '69 Vette, with a 454 under the hood.
ONEBADMK8 August 23rd, 2007, 09:04 PM The ONE muscle car that started it ALL!! THE 1964 GTO 289 3 2'S
BBBEEAAuuuttiiful Goat Man!!! Thats $hit is HOT!!!!
I always Loved this bodystyle. Stright to the point looks. No guessing that your gonna get your a$$ fed to you.
But the first Muscle car really was the Chrysler 300C. (http://www.autozine.org/Classiccar/html/Chrysler/300.html)
MERIJONS97LSC August 24th, 2007, 11:25 AM BBBEEAAuuuttiiful Goat Man!!! Thats $hit is HOT!!!!
I always Loved this bodystyle. Stright to the point looks. No guessing that your gonna get your a$$ fed to you.
But the first Muscle car really was the Chrysler 300C. (http://www.autozine.org/Classiccar/html/Chrysler/300.html)
THAT'S TRUE 1955 300...SHE STARTED EVERYTHING!!!!:cool: My uncle had a 55 300 331 hemi 280-300hp!:cool:
MERIJONS97LSC August 24th, 2007, 11:34 AM Ooops, I think that Pontiac had a "389"
your right type-o!
Brock January 12th, 2008, 02:47 PM '65 289/271 Mustang held C Stock record for a good while.
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