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Mark VIII Question

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Posted by: FantasticVoyage

Hi There, Im new to these forums. I used to own a '95 Cougar, but have recently acquired a '96 Mark VIII.

One thing Im curious about that I cant seem to find an answer on is.. When I firsta start up there is a noise that sounds like grinding. it only happens for about 30 seconds before its stops, this also happens occasionally as I sit at a stop. Now I assume this has something to do with the Air Ride, but I'm probably wrong

Any suggestions would be most helpful


Posted by: NYC LS8

The bushings that go between the compressor for the air ride and the body might have deteriorated and you hear that sound as the compressor is running. Try starting up the car and listening in the front passenger wheel well and see if the noise comes from that general area.


Posted by: FantasticVoyage

Quote:
Originally Posted by NYC LSC
The bushings that go between the compressor for the air ride and the body might have deteriorated and you hear that sound as the compressor is running. Try starting up the car and listening in the front passenger wheel well and see if the noise comes from that general area.

Would this be an easy fix if this is the situation?


Posted by: NYC LS8

Should be. I THINK Arnott sells a kit for those bushings. Have a look around or call 'em and see..

http://www.arnottindustries.com/


Posted by: FantasticVoyage

are these http://www.arnottindustries.com/part...id13_yid7.html

what your refering to?

Thanks for the Info by the way.





Posted by: NYC LS8

Yup..that's them.

But like I said earlier - start up the car and have a listen in the fenderwell. If it's coming from there, those are probably your culprit.


Posted by: 94m5

You could also be hearing the timing chains clattering before the tensioners pump up.


Does it happen IMMEDIATLY upon start up....or a little later?


Mike


Posted by: fossten

Quote:
Originally Posted by FantasticVoyage
Hi There, Im new to these forums. I used to own a '95 Cougar, but have recently acquired a '96 Mark VIII.

One thing Im curious about that I cant seem to find an answer on is.. When I firsta start up there is a noise that sounds like grinding. it only happens for about 30 seconds before its stops, this also happens occasionally as I sit at a stop. Now I assume this has something to do with the Air Ride, but I'm probably wrong

Any suggestions would be most helpful
It's just your compressor adjusting your ride height. It always does that when you start up or stop at a light. Next time watch carefully as the car's height changes slightly.


Posted by: the_continental_kid

Does it sound like "grinding" or just "a far away air compressor"?

Did that sound stupid?

I'm willing to bet its probably just the air compressor adjusting the level of the car - its a question many new Lincoln drivers ask.

PS - The "air leaving swimming tube" sound when you get out of your car is also normal.


Posted by: Bmetzger8

Quote:
Originally Posted by 94m5
You could also be hearing the timing chains clattering before the tensioners pump up.


Does it happen IMMEDIATLY upon start up....or a little later?


Mike

How do you fix that chain clatter? My car just started doing that.


Posted by: evillally

Quote:
Originally Posted by Bmetzger8
How do you fix that chain clatter? My car just started doing that.
Try using an anti-drainback oil filter...


Posted by: fossten

Quote:
Originally Posted by evillally
Try using an anti-drainback oil filter...
Like what, for example?


Posted by: evillally

Fram Tough Guard is anti-drainback.


Posted by: FantasticVoyage

It usually takes about 5 seconds for the sound to start then lasts about 10-15 seconds. It sounds like a compressor behind a wall. If its pretty normal then ill pay no more attention to it, should I replace those bushings anyway to be safe? Its a 96 with 64k. The previous owner didnt drive very much but I do know he took extra care with this car.


Posted by: FantasticVoyage

Now I just gotta find a PDF of the owners manual.


Posted by: scott9050

Quote:
Originally Posted by FantasticVoyage
It usually takes about 5 seconds for the sound to start then lasts about 10-15 seconds. It sounds like a compressor behind a wall. If its pretty normal then ill pay no more attention to it, should I replace those bushings anyway to be safe? Its a 96 with 64k. The previous owner didnt drive very much but I do know he took extra care with this car.
It's just your air ride compressor coming on, no biggie.


Posted by: fossten

Quote:
Originally Posted by FantasticVoyage
It usually takes about 5 seconds for the sound to start then lasts about 10-15 seconds. It sounds like a compressor behind a wall. If its pretty normal then ill pay no more attention to it, should I replace those bushings anyway to be safe? Its a 96 with 64k. The previous owner didnt drive very much but I do know he took extra care with this car.
It's normal. Don't worry about it unless you DON'T hear it one day.


Posted by: FantasticVoyage

Anyone know where i can get a copy of the owners manual online? Im having some problems with my fuses and I need a copy of the fuse wiring diagram to make things right.


Posted by: rmac694203

Here is a diagram of the fuse panel on the side of the dash in this thread.
http://www.lincolnvscadillac.com/showthread.php?t=1301


Posted by: FantasticVoyage

Ya, I did a search , silly me Didnt dawn on me that I could use any from 93-96 hehe sorry


Posted by: MarkOfDeath

Article No.
94-21-2

10/19/94

^ AIR SUSPENSION - "HUM" NOISE WHEN VEHICLE IS FIRST OCCUPIED AND LEVELING

^ NOISE - "HUM" - FROM ENGINE COMPARTMENT WHEN VEHICLE IS FIRST OCCUPIED AND LEVELING - VEHICLES WITH AIR SUSPENSION

FORD:
1992-94 CROWN VICTORIA

LINCOLN-MERCURY:
1984-92 MARK VII
1984-94 CONTINENTAL
1990-94 TOWN CAR
1992-94 GRAND MARQUIS
1993-94 MARK VIII

ISSUE:
Some vehicles may exhibit a "hum" noise from the engine compartment when the Air Suspension System is leveling the vehicle after it becomes occupied. This condition may be caused by the compressor isolators not suspending the compressor properly, resulting in a "ground out" condition.

ACTION:
Replace all old compressor isolators with new compressor isolators.

SERVICE PROCEDURES

MARK VIII 1993-1994

1. Check air compressor assembly to determine if any object or harness (wiring or vacuum harness) is interfering with the free movement of the air compressor.

2. With the ignition "on" and the engine "off", lean on the front of the vehicle to activate the suspension air compressor and move the compressor to determine if the noise concern is coming from the air compressor.

3. If required, replace all four (4) of the compressor isolators and other related hardware found in the Service Kit (F4LY-5Z205-A).

^ Air Suspension Compressor Kit (F4LY-5Z205-A) consists of:
^ 4 isolators

^ 4 washers

^ 4 mounting screws



ALL OTHER SUBJECT VEHICLES

1. Check air compressor assembly to determine if any object or harness (wiring or vacuum harness) is interfering with the free movement of the air compressor.

2. With the ignition "on" and the engine "off", lean on the front of the vehicle to activate the suspension air compressor and move the compressor to determine if the noise concern is coming from the air compressor.

3. If required, replace all three (3) of the compressor isolators and other related hardware found in the Service Kit (E4LY-5Z205-A).








^ Air Suspension Compressor Kit (E4LY-5Z205-A) consists of:

^ 3 isolators

^ 3 washers

^ 3 mounting screws

^ 1 bracket

^ 3 bracket washers

^ 3 nuts


PART NUMBER PART NAME CLASS

E4LY-5Z205-A Air Suspension Compressor Kit C
F4LY-5Z205-A Air Suspension Compressor Kit C

OTHER APPLICABLE ARTICLES: NONE
WARRANTY STATUS:
Eligible Under Basic Warranty Coverage For 1984-91 Model Years And Bumper To Bumper Warranty Coverage For All Other Model Years

OPERATION DESCRIPTION TIME
942102A Replace Isolators - Mark 0.8 Hr.
VIII, Continental
942102B Replace Isolators - Town 0.6 Hr.
Car, Crown Victoria/Grand Marquis

DEALER CODING
BASIC PART NO. CONDITION CODE
5319 56

OASIS CODES: 702000




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