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Impeachment Time: "Facts Were Fixed."

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Posted by: 97silverlsc

Impeachment Time: "Facts Were Fixed."

A BUZZFLASH GUEST NEWS ANALYSIS
by Greg Palast

Here it is. The smoking gun. The memo that has "IMPEACH HIM" written all over it.

The top-level government memo marked "SECRET AND STRICTLY PERSONAL," dated eight months before Bush sent us into Iraq, following a closed meeting with the President, reads, "Military action was now seen as inevitable. Bush wanted to remove Saddam through military action justified by the conjunction of terrorism and WMD. But the intelligence and facts were being fixed around the policy."

Read that again: "The intelligence and facts were being fixed...."

For years, after each damning report on BBC TV, viewers inevitably ask me, "Isn't this grounds for impeachment?" -- vote rigging, a blind eye to terror and the bin Ladens before 9-11, and so on. Evil, stupidity and self-dealing are shameful but not impeachable. What's needed is a " high crime or misdemeanor."

And if this ain't it, nothing is.

The memo, uncovered this week by the Times, goes on to describe an elaborate plan by George Bush and British Prime Minister Tony Blair to hoodwink the planet into supporting an attack on Iraq knowing full well the evidence for war was a phony.

A conspiracy to commit serial fraud is, under federal law, racketeering. However, the Mob's schemes never cost so many lives.

Here's more. "Bush had made up his mind to take military action. But the case was thin. Saddam was not threatening his neighbors, and his WMD capability was less than that of Libya, North Korea or Iran."

Really? But Mr. Bush told us, "Intelligence gathered by this and other governments leaves no doubt that the Iraq regime continues to possess and conceal some of the most lethal weapons ever devised."

A month ago, the Silberman-Robb Commission issued its report on WMD intelligence before the war, dismissing claims that Bush fixed the facts with this snooty, condescending conclusion written directly to the President, "After a thorough review, the Commission found no indication that the Intelligence Community distorted the evidence regarding Iraq's weapons."

We now know the report was a bogus 618 pages of thick whitewash aimed to let Bush off the hook for his murderous mendacity.

Read on: The invasion build-up was then set, says the memo, "beginning 30 days before the US Congressional elections." Mission accomplished.

You should parse the entire memo and see if you can make it through its three pages without losing your lunch.

Now sharp readers may note they didn't see this memo, in fact, printed in the New York Times. It wasn't. Rather, it was splashed across the front pages of the Times of LONDON on Monday.

It has effectively finished the last, sorry remnants of Tony Blair's political career. (While his Labor Party will most assuredly win the elections Thursday, Prime Minister Blair is expected, possibly within months, to be shoved overboard in favor of his Chancellor of the Exchequer, a political execution which requires only a vote of the Labour party's members in Parliament.)

But in the US, barely a word. The New York Times covers this hard evidence of Bush's fabrication of a casus belli as some "British" elections story. Apparently, our President's fraud isn't "news fit to print."

My colleagues in the UK press have skewered Blair, digging out more incriminating memos, challenging the official government factoids and fibs. But in the US press …nada, bubkes, zilch. Bush fixed the facts and somehow that's a story for "over there."

The Republicans impeached Bill Clinton over his cigar and Monica's affections. And the US media could print nothing else.

Now, we have the stone, cold evidence of bending intelligence to sell us on death by the thousands, and neither a Republican Congress nor what is laughably called US journalism thought it worth a second look.

My friend Daniel Ellsberg once said that what's good about the American people is that you have to lie to them. What's bad about Americans is that it's so easy to do.

Posted by: MonsterMark

Didn't you just regurgitate the same stuff on another thread? These revelations are SOOO shocking that nobody cares. Saddam violated repeatedly all the United Nations sanctions against him after the 1st Gulf War. We didn't even need a reason to invade him and wipe his a$$ like a grease stain.

Posted by: 97silverlsc

IMPEACH THE DUNG PILE!!!!!
Point of the editorial being: Clinton was impeached for a blowjob and a lie, this sc%mb@g did far worse!!!!

Posted by: RRocket

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Originally Posted by MonsterMark

Didn't you just regurgitate the same stuff on another thread? These revelations are SOOO shocking that nobody cares. Saddam violated repeatedly all the United Nations sanctions against him after the 1st Gulf War. We didn't even need a reason to invade him and wipe his a$$ like a grease stain.

Since when does the US care about the United Nations? Sorry Bryan, the US is in the same boat as Saddam..they ignored the UN too. Remember, the US ignored the UN when it came to Iraq. And since when does the US care about who violates the UN? Israel has been violating the UN for decades...and that country has a war criminal as president......The only difference is that Iraq had oil.....

Posted by: barry2952

You are absolutely wrong Bryan. We do care that Bush lied and continues to lie. I'd love to see your face when he's impeached.

Posted by: MonsterMark

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Originally Posted by RRocket

When did the US ignore the UN. We went and got their approval. Rewritng history, are we?

Posted by: MonsterMark

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Originally Posted by barry2952

You are absolutely wrong Bryan. We do care that Bush lied and continues to lie. I'd love to see your face when he's impeached.

Please show me where Bush lied.

Posted by: MonsterMark

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Originally Posted by MonsterMark

Please show me where Bush lied.

You guys are such hypocrites I could scream, but I'd rather laugh. Get real.

If Bush lied, you better add these names to the list....along with hundreds of other leaders from around the world.

"One way or the other, we are determined to deny Iraq the capacity to develop weapons of mass destruction and the missiles to deliver them. That is our bottom line."
- President Clinton, Feb. 4, 1998

"If Saddam rejects peace and we have to use force, our purpose is clear. We want to seriously diminish the threat posed by Iraq's weapons of mass destruction program."
- President Clinton, Feb. 17, 1998

"Iraq is a long way from [here], but what happens there matters a great deal here. For the risks that the leaders of a rogue state will use nuclear, chemical or biological weapons against us or our allies is the greatest security threat we face."
- Madeline Albright, Feb 18, 1998

"He will use those weapons of mass destruction again, as he has ten times since 1983."
- Sandy Berger, Clinton National Security Adviser, Feb, 18, 1998

"We urge you, after consulting with Congress, and consistent with the U.S. Constitution and laws, to take necessary actions (including, if appropriate, air and missile strikes on suspect Iraqi sites) to respond effectively to the threat posed by Iraq's refusal to end its weapons of mass destruction programs."
- Letter to President Clinton, signed by Sens. Carl Levin (D-MI), Tom Daschle (D-SD), John Kerry ( D - MA), and others Oct. 9, 1998

"Saddam Hussein has been engaged in the development of weapons of mass destruction technology which is a threat to countries in the region and he has made a mockery of the weapons inspection process."
- Rep.. Nancy Pelosi (D, CA), Dec. 16, 1998

"Hussein has ... chosen to spend his money on building weapons of mass destruction and palaces for his cronies."
- Madeline Albright, Clinton Secretary of State, Nov. 10, 1999

"There is no doubt that ... Saddam Hussein has invigorated his weapons programs. Reports indicate that biological, chemical and nuclear programs continue apace and may be back to pre-Gulf War status. In addition, Saddam continues to redefine delivery systems and is doubtless using the cover of a licit missile program to develop longer-range missiles that will threaten the United States and our allies."
- Letter to President Bush, Signed by Sen. Bob Graham (D, FL,) and others, December 5, 2001

"We begin with the common belief that Saddam Hussein is a tyrant and threat to the peace and stability of the region. He has ignored the mandate of the United Nations and is building weapons of mass destruction and the means of delivering them."
- Sen. Carl Levin (D, MI), Sept. 1! 9, 2002

"We know that he has stored secret supplies of biological and chemical weapons throughout his country."

- Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002

"Iraq's search for weapons of mass destruction has proven impossible to deter and we should assume that it will continue for as long as Saddam is in power."
- Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002

"We have known for many years that Saddam Hussein is seeking and developing weapons of mass destruction."
- Sen. Ted Kennedy (D, MA), Sept. 27, 2002

"The last UN weapons inspectors left Iraq in October of 1998. We are confident that Saddam Hussein retains some stockpiles of chemical and biological weapons, and that he has since embarked on a crash course to build up his chemical and biological warfare capabilities. Intelligence reports indicate that he is seeking nuclear weapons..."
- Sen. Robert Byrd (D, WV), Oct. 3, 2002

"I will be voting to give the President of the United States the authority to use force-- if necessary-- to disarm Saddam Hussein because I believe that a deadly arsenal of weapons of mass destruction in his hands is a real and grave threat to our security."
- Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Oct. 9, 2002

"There is unmistakable evidence that Saddam Hussein is working aggressively to develop nuclear weapons and will likely have nuclear weapons within the next five years ...... We also should remember we have always underestimated the progress Saddam has made in development of weapons of mass destruction."
- Sen. Jay Rockefeller (D, WV), Oct 10, 2002

"He has systematically violated, over the course of the past 11 years, every significant UN resolution that has demanded that he disarm and destroy his chemical and biological weapons, and an! y nuclear capacity. This he has refused to do."
- Rep. Henry Waxman (D, CA), Oct. 10, 2002

"In the four years since the inspectors left, intelligence reports show that Saddam Hussein has worked to rebuild his chemical and biological weapon stock, his missile delivery capability, and his nuclear program. He has also given aid, comfort, and sanctuary to terrorists, including al Qaeda members. It is clear, however, that if left unchecked Saddam Hussein will continue to increase his capacity to wage biological and chemical warfare, and will keep trying to develop nuclear weapons."
- Sen. Hillary Clinton (D, NY), Oct 10, 2002

"We are in possession of what I think to be compelling evidence that Saddam Hussein has, and has had for a number of years, a developing capacity for the production and storage of weapons of mass destruction."
- Sen. Bob Graham (D, FL), Dec.! 8, 2002

"Without question, we need to disarm Saddam Hussein. He is a brutal, murderous dictator, leading an oppressive regime ... He presents a particularly grievous threat because he is so consistently prone to miscalculation ... And now he is miscalculating America's response to his continued deceit and his consistent grasp for weapons of mass destruction... So the threat of Saddam Hussein with weapons of mass destruction is real."
- Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Jan. 23. 2003

Looks like the gangs all there. Book'em Dano.

George W. Bush. Greatest President Ever!

Posted by: barry2952

We're talking about GWB. You always tell us it's time to move on. Deflecting blame on to others will not keep him from being impeached.

I guess they were right. A mountain of DUNG. Just like his blind supporters.

Posted by: 97silverlsc

About 80% of the quotes you list were made after Shrub was in office and in control of the intelligence community, with the British memo showing that Shrub and his boys were tailoring the "intel" to justify going to war, those quotes are meaningless. The issue here is that the President of the United States fabricated or cherry-picked intel reports to justify going to war. Sounds like a far greater and damaging lie than the one Bubba was impeached for, are you proposing a double standard-one for dems and one for repugs?

Impeach the Dung Pile!!!!

Posted by: bufordtpisser

You guys still do not get it. Open your eyes, Kerry lost the election. Claim the fraud that you say was so rampant, but you still can not prove it. Claim conspiracy, but you still have no proof. Claim anything you want, just prove it. The only thing that I claim is that the so called pile of dung that is our president won the election. Want proof, go to the White House. Says GWB on the door. Does not say, John Kerry. Traitor to his country. Traitor to his brothers in arms. Keep up the good work Bryan. Just like Kerry your detractors only want to move on and forget the past when it shows that their beloved traitor johnny is proven to be the ass>>>>Hole that he really is.

Please check he election results, Bush won. Kerry lost. End of story.

Posted by: barry2952

Winning an election does not protect you against past and current lies.

Posted by: bufordtpisser

It doesn't forgive the sins of the past or the future. But stop being such poor losers and do something to change the situation. Republicans were not and are not the only ones lying. Get a grip, all politicians are liars. Bush is no worse than any of the others have ever been. But he did win the election, with the system that we have in place. Flawed as it may be, it is still the best system in the world. Don't like it, fight to change it. Can't change it, accept it. Can't accept it, get the hell out of my country. And by the way, how many of you whiners and bitchers have ever served your country?? Probably not many. Or you would know that you can't always do what you want, but you must do what you are ordered to do. This is the greatest country in the world. You have the right to burn my flag, I have the right to kick the living Sh!t out of you if you do.

NUFF SAID

Posted by: Kbob

Ah, now there's a "memo" that is the smoking gun. As most of you know, I'm skeptical. My first impression is that I don't buy it. It may be real, but you Bush-haters are every bit as gullible as you claim the Bush supporters are. It's quite funny, actually.

Posted by: MonsterMark

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Originally Posted by Kbob

Ah, now there's a "memo" that is the smoking gun.

Based on the media reporting on this, I think we are dealing with more of a 'squirt gun' here. Did somebody get into my kids playbox again.

You know what Bush is doing in this picture? He is laughing at all you left wingers. Like I said: Dumb as a fox.

Posted by: mespock

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Originally Posted by Kbob

but you Bush-haters are every bit as gullible as you claim the Bush supporters are. It's quite funny, actually.

Good thing no one gets off the See Saw! The Far Right the Far Left up and down up and down. Then there are those in the middle who have to deal the the crap!!

That's what made Clinton such a good Prez. He was in the Middle and he liked a good BJ when he could get one!

Posted by: JohnnyBz00LS

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Originally Posted by bufordtpisser

You have the right to burn my flag, I have the right to kick the living Sh!t out of you if you do.

NO you DON'T! Kick someone's ass (for ANY reason) and you will land in jail for assault and battery. Put down the crackpipe, dude.

So Bryan, you point is that Bush isn't alone with the lies, THAT's NICE! BFD. The buck still stops at the desk in the oval office, NOT w/ senators, congressmen or foreigners!

The only reason GW won that election is because the GOP clearly controlled the infomation being fed to the voters and kept them in the dark WRT the Iraq war. Had the american voters known the TRUTH that has since been coming to light, I highly doubt the outcome would be the same. Don't believe me? Let's re-vote tomorrow. Are you still confident GW would win the election again? Do you feel lucky?

If Clinton got impeached for staining a blue dress (0 fatalities as a result), GW should be impeached for this Iraq war (100,000+ fatalities as a result). This is a FAR greater crime. Even a moron could see that.

Posted by: MonsterMark

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Originally Posted by mespock

Good thing no one gets off the See Saw!

Well, if you have ever sat on the fulcrum, its pretty boring.

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Originally Posted by mespock

That's what made Clinton such a good Prez. He was in the Middle and he liked a good BJ when he could get one!

I'll take exception with the 'good' part, but being married to Hillary, you can't blame a guy for getting some when he could. The oral Office was NOT the place however. One of the most selfish acts ever to incur in politics, imho.

Posted by: MonsterMark

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Originally Posted by JohnnyBz00LS

So Bryan, you point is that Bush isn't alone with the lies, THAT's NICE! BFD. The buck still stops at the desk in the oval office, NOT w/ senators, congressmen or foreigners!

Should I name the names of the Dems that were privvy to the same information as Bush?

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Originally Posted by JohnnyBz00LS

The only reason GW won that election is because the GOP clearly controlled the infomation being fed to the voters and kept them in the dark WRT the Iraq war. Had the american voters known the TRUTH that has since been coming to light, I highly doubt the outcome would be the same. Don't believe me? Let's re-vote tomorrow. Are you still confident GW would win the election again? Do you feel lucky?

You'll get your recount in 3-1/2 years. The results will be the same. The Country will continue to move back to the right after 50 years off kilter to the left. Do I feel lucky? Everyday that an American has not been killed by a terrorist on US soil. Yep, I feel pretty damn lucky. And the reason Bush won has nothing to do with Bush. He won because the Country couldn't afford a traitor and far-leftist liberal sitting in office. Be like going back to the stone-age. You guys threw everything you had at Bush and he's still standing TALL and PROUD.

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Originally Posted by JohnnyBz00LS

If Clinton got impeached for staining a blue dress (0 fatalities as a result), GW should be impeached for this Iraq war (100,000+ fatalities as a result). This is a FAR greater crime. Even a moron could see that.

Like I said. THE most shameful and selfish act ever to incur in politics.

At least this guy makes us proud to be Americans. Well, most of us at least.

Posted by: barry2952

That picture looks like GWB's head is exploding. Were it true......

Posted by: bufordtpisser

Well JohnnyB, Me thinks it may be you who is smoking the crack pipe. I never stated that would not get into trouble for kicking your azz for burning the flag. What I said was that I had the right to do so. I believe that I am guaranteed the right to the pursuit of happiness. And nothing in this world, with the exception of my lady and my mark would give me greater hapiness than to kick the living sh!t out of the moronic loser that would have the un fortunate luck to light old glory in front of me. And I am sure that I could get a large number of my Marine Corps Bretheren to stand behind me to add a good swift kick to the sorry soul. It is people like the radical leftists who make our soldiers sick to their stomachs every time some loser tries to tell them that they are over there for nothing and have lost their comrads to defend innocents. I here from soldier every day who are fed up with the left wing BS. Don't like it here, leave. Plain and simple.

Posted by: MonsterMark

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Originally Posted by barry2952

That picture looks like GWB's head is exploding. Were it true......

We can only dream.

Posted by: bufordtpisser

I sure am glad you guys have a sense of humor on this board. Go ahead JohnnyB, burn the flag if you want, I will just stand there and shake my head. After all that is why I served my country so that people had the right to express themselves. I am not a radical, and believe that to each his own. I just like to get things heated so that I can see what kind of people I am dealing with. I voted for GWB and am satisfied with the decision I made. If you are not, bitch away. Hell I need the laugh. All I do since GWB was elected is work and makes loads of money. This board is great. I never thought that I could find a board where Lincolns and Caddy's could co-exist and never in my wildest did I believe that Lefties and righties could do the same. America is truly a great place to live.

Posted by: barry2952

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Originally Posted by bufordtpisser

I sure am glad you guys have a sense of humor on this board. Go ahead JohnnyB, burn the flag if you want, I will just stand there and shake my head. After all that is why I served my country so that people had the right to express themselves. I am not a radical, and believe that to each his own. I just like to get things heated so that I can see what kind of people I am dealing with. I voted for GWB and am satisfied with the decision I made. If you are not, bitch away. Hell I need the laugh. All I do since GWB was elected is work and makes loads of money. This board is great. I never thought that I could find a board where Lincolns and Caddy's could co-exist and never in my wildest did I believe that Lefties and righties could do the same. America is truly a great place to live.

You must have taken your medication.

Posted by: bufordtpisser

Yep, sure did. One big dose of reality. Followed by a large Captain Morgan Private Stock and Diet Coke. Gotta watch the figure you know.

Posted by: MonsterMark

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Originally Posted by bufordtpisser

One big dose of reality. Followed by a large Captain Morgan Private Stock and Diet Coke.

Maybe the political forum explains my drinking habit formed by my having to provoke and debate the lefties around here.

Posted by: JohnnyBz00LS

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Originally Posted by bufordtpisser

Well JohnnyB, Me thinks it may be you who is smoking the crack pipe. I never stated that would not get into trouble for kicking your azz for burning the flag. What I said was that I had the right to do so.

Having "rights" infers you have the LAW on your side. A&B is against the law, thus, you have NO RIGHT. Don't like it like that? Leave. Plain and simple.

Posted by: bufordtpisser

Do you really believe that I would lose in court if I had a jury of my peers. Wake up and smell the burning flag. And having right does not necessisarily infer legality. I have the right to protest, my method may be illeagle, but that does not remove the fact that I have the right.