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Don't Buy Gears from SuperCoupePerformance

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Posted by: Savagecat27

About 2 weeks ago I ordered a set of 4.10's from supercoupeperformance. He told me they were Ykon gears and I did a little research and All I heard was good things about that brand so I ordered them. Didn't really inspect them when they got to my house. Brought them to the guy I was having install them for me and he calls me later on in the day and tells me there cheap gears made in China, he said if they were Yukon gears it would be stamped on the gears, he said he couldn't even get the pinion to seat correctly in it. Luckily he had a spear set of Ford Racing 4.10's sitting on the shelf so he installed those. Moral of the story Supercoupe performance sucks.

Posted by: TDUB

Did you get a refund?

Posted by: Moes8

did you talk to supercoupe perf? or are you just bashing away like a mad man?

mistakes happen ,i have never heard something like this about them before,anyone else?

Posted by: 98CobraStarLSC

I ordered a set of coil spring a while back that were supposebly American Air, they came in as Strutmasters.. May still be good, but it was not what was advertised!

Posted by: 93' Blue on blue

Quote:

Originally Posted by 98CobraStarLSC

I ordered a set of coil spring a while back that were supposebly American Air, they came in as Strutmasters.. May still be good, but it was not what was advertised!

American Air's kits are Strutmasters kits. People buy the kits from Eddie (rather than Strutmasters) because his support is good.

Posted by: bryantaylor

Quote:

Originally Posted by 98CobraStarLSC

I ordered a set of coil spring a while back that were supposebly American Air, they came in as Strutmasters.. May still be good, but it was not what was advertised!

the kit i ordered directly from eddie was a strutmasters kit.

Posted by: kustomizingkid

Eddie sells Strutmasters...

I don't know if the op has talked with Bill about the problem... but I'd be interested in knowing how he handled this as I am planning on doing business with him in the future.

Posted by: Savagecat27

iv'e bought alot of stuff from them in the last year thats the mane reason why I'm so mad

Posted by: Savagecat27

a few weeks ago i bought a deep oil pan from him when i was putting in my shift kit and he didn't tell me to get the new filter to fit it so i called and I had him send it second day shipping it ended up costing me like 40.00 altogether for a 10.00 part. then I got it and it was the same friggin filter as my stock one.

Posted by: Savagecat27

When I called to see what that was all about his answering machine said he wouldn't be in for a week.

Posted by: Savagecat27

Other than that I really havent had any problems with the guy but I havent try talking to him yet about getting a refund.

Posted by: driller

You do know a lot of what he sells is drop shipped, right? He never sees it. He may have never seen the gears? Can't bitch too much if you didn't even look at them.

Bill's a good guy in my book. But he can't fix something he knows nothing about. You should give him or any vendor a chance to make things right before you start bashing them on public forums IMHO.

Jeez, look at all the crap Geno has put up with over the years. LOL

Posted by: bryantaylor

damn man, use the

in editt button.

Posted by: Savagecat27

Like I said I haven't had a problem with him until recently, I just haven't talked to him yet because I sleep in the day I work third shift so I always wake up too late and then he's closed. That's my problem though

Posted by: turn_on68

Quote:

Originally Posted by 98CobraStarLSC

I ordered a set of coil spring a while back that were supposebly American Air, they came in as Strutmasters.. May still be good, but it was not what was advertised!

Eddie told me they were going to be in Strutmasters boxes, didn't he tell you?

Posted by: luxuryrules

I've been doing business with Bill for a few years now. His prices aren't always the best, but that's ok with me. As a matter of fact, I spoke to him last week - he didn't say anything about being gone for a week. Vacation maybe?

The *only* issue I've had with him was the rear big brake kit. The ebrake cable on the Mark VIII hits the bolt holding the adapter plate and keeps the caliper from lining up correctly. I had to modify the ebrake cable to make it work. Not a huge concerned, except that it was technically illegal for me to have done so and I wish I would have known up front.

Aside from that, he is very helpful and forthcoming in his dealings with his vendors. I myself just ordered gears and a Posi from him, they will show up on Tuesday. Will see what manufacturer they are from when they show up...

EDIT, come to think of it, I ordered 3.73s but noticed he has 4.10s on sale. Wonder if he got a great deal on some knockoff 4.10s?

Posted by: luxuryrules

Ok, the goodie box showed up today. The rear end components (rebuild kit, R&P gears, & posi unit) are all Yukon. I've never used Yukon stuff, but I used to work for a Yukon dealer and I never had any complaints about them. Good enough for me....

Although a few of the other goodies I ordered did not show up yet - the poly diff bushings and speedo gear. Going to have a conversation with Bill and see what happened there.

Posted by: 98CobraStarLSC

Quote:

Originally Posted by turn_on68

Eddie told me they were going to be in Strutmasters boxes, didn't he tell you?

He didnt tell me anything..

I also ordered the shorter polyurethane sway bar links and when i got them, there was only one side. I asked him and he had to send me the other side. But he wasnt very friendly about it.. Like i said. "thanks for the help, and kindly asked when it would be here" and he said just replied with like one word answers..

Posted by: mespock

Quote:

Originally Posted by 98CobraStarLSC

I ordered a set of coil spring a while back that were supposebly American Air, they came in as Strutmasters.. May still be good, but it was not what was advertised!

Eddie sells Strutmasters for a better price than Strumasters and better service and a longer warrantee. What more could you ask for?

Strutmasters and Eddie both use to sell Re-man Air Bags .. Strutmasters purchased all of Eddie's equipment to do the re-mans ... Eddie was able to sell the re-man cheaper than when he did them himself as Strutmasters is a much larger company.

You can't beat Eddie for Service ... he's the guy to go with.

Posted by: davidm

I have another post about the Super Coupe Support braces, they are good quailty and seem to be doing the job.
The one issue I had with them is when ordering online, he charged my credit card when they were not available. It was almost 4-5 weeks before receiving them.
He should mention on his site when items are on back order and what the ship date looks like.
Just general common sense, he was slow to reply with follow up emails also.
I will most likely buy from him again, but not until the status of the item is known and will definately use a credit card, no cash.

David

Posted by: Roadboss

I have bought quite a bit of stuff from Bill (SuperCoupes)and even stopped by his place to meet him. I think some of you complainers should realize that he is only one person, yes that's right he does it all, attempting to make a living like everyone else. He is not a cheat or a swindler, and an e mail followed up by a quick phone call always got me an answer as sometimes he gets jacked up also.

Posted by: nobody_special

Quote:

Originally Posted by luxuryrules

I've never used Yukon stuff, but I used to work for a Yukon dealer and I never had any complaints about them. Good enough for me....

I have 4.56 Yukon gears in a 72 F100, I like them. quality stuff at a good price.

Posted by: Savagecat27

No one ever said he was a cheat, I just thought I would sheer wut happened to me with you guys, 8I've bought a ton of stuff from the guy it was really just this one incident I'm not trying to get you guys to not give him business.

Posted by: XLRVIII

Quote:

Originally Posted by Savagecat27

"Dont buy Gears from Supercoupe performance"...
Moral of the story Supercoupe performance sucks.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Savagecat27

I'm not trying to get you guys to not give him business.

Really? sure sounded that way.

Posted by: luxuryrules

Quote:

Originally Posted by nobody_special

I have 4.56 Yukon gears in a 72 F100, I like them. quality stuff at a good price.

Cool. As long as everything goes in ok I'll be happy. I don't even care where it's made as long as it fits, it works, and it doesn't break right away.

Posted by: nobody_special

I spend a lot of time at different offroading sites, (pirate 4x4, nwuonline) and they have good things to say about the strength of Yukon gears, but then again all my experience with them is in off road applications.

Posted by: Rich88LSC

Quote:

Originally Posted by nobody_special

I spend a lot of time at different offroading sites, (pirate 4x4, nwuonline) and they have good things to say about the strength of Yukon gears, but then again all my experience with them is in off road applications.

Off roading can be just as hard if not harder on driveline parts then drag racing.

Posted by: nobody_special

Oh yeah, definitely. Especially when you add in the excessive force of large tires (35" and up) into the equation. Throw a detroit locker in there, and you are snapping axle shafts like pretzel sticks.

On my current build, I will soon be running 37" tires on a ford 9" rear and a D44 front (richmond gears front, Yukon back) with a detroit in the rear. Lets just say I will be carrying spare axle shafts, but I am not worried about breaking the gears. I am just hoping my old 360 wont have enough power to wreck stuff too bad.

Posted by: jbird97

Nice, what kinda rig you got?

Edit** I've never had any problems with Bill but I've only ordered a few things so far.

Posted by: nobody_special

Its a 72 F100. tore down at the moment. I am shortening the wheelbase, it was a long box. removed the box and will be bending and welding a flatbed for it this spring. and moving up to 37x12.5r16.5 HMMWV tires.

ok, i guess i have hijacked this thread enough. I am new here and don't know how anal you guys are about hijacks and shenanigans, yet. It varies from site to site.

Posted by: unity

I ordered a fuel pump from Bill. Wrong filter, made install a PAIN. IN fact the pump is pushing hard against the tank bottom. It needs to be replaced. After that I will never order again. Sorry, but burn me once and your out!

Posted by: jbird97

Quote:

Originally Posted by nobody_special

Its a 72 F100. tore down at the moment. I am shortening the wheelbase, it was a long box. removed the box and will be bending and welding a flatbed for it this spring. and moving up to 37x12.5r16.5 HMMWV tires.

ok, i guess i have hijacked this thread enough. I am new here and don't know how anal you guys are about hijacks and shenanigans, yet. It varies from site to site.

hehe, shenanigans

Posted by: luxuryrules

Quote:

Originally Posted by nobody_special

ok, i guess i have hijacked this thread enough. I am new here and don't know how anal you guys are about hijacks and shenanigans, yet. It varies from site to site.

Fair game. We're discussing Bill's products and you have a positive experience from one of his vendors.

We do a fair job of stretching the rules around here

Posted by: htrdlincoln98

Quote:

Originally Posted by nobody_special

Oh yeah, definitely. Especially when you add in the excessive force of large tires (35" and up) into the equation. Throw a detroit locker in there, and you are snapping axle shafts like pretzel sticks.

Yeh off road is tough on stuff. Like rock crawling real tough. Me and a friend built a back half jeep YJ with a 14 bolt and 60 front. 42" tires and an LT1 motor 700r trans 205 and 203 case. ON nitrogen shocks. She bad

Posted by: nobody_special

Quote:

Originally Posted by jbird97

hehe, shenanigans

I swear to God, I'll pistol whip the next guy who says shenaningans!

Posted by: Stack

Hey farva! whats that restaurant that you like with all the goofy stuff on the walls?

Posted by: XLRVIII

Quote:

Originally Posted by nobody_special

I swear to God, I'll pistol whip the next guy who says shenaningans!

shenani....pauses {backs away slowly)

Posted by: XLRVIII

Quote:

Originally Posted by nobody_special

I am new here and don't know how anal you guys are about hijacks and shenanigans, yet. It varies from site to site.

See my avatar?
LMAO

speaking of off road sites
explorerforum?
Demon4X4?

Posted by: kustomizingkid

This site has Nazi style moderation... HAHAHAHAHA.... We have:

Rich: Senile
MonsterMark: Never Leaves the Political Forum
Calibrio: Same as MM
Geno: Starts as much trouble as everyone else
Joey: Don't see much of him... busy guy

All I can say is LVC FTW!!

Posted by: XLRVIII

Quote:

Originally Posted by kustomizingkid

This site has Nazi style moderation... HAHAHAHAHA.... We have:

Rich: Senile
MonsterMark: Never Leaves the Political Forum
Calibrio: Same as MM
Geno: Starts as much trouble as everyone else
Joey: Don't see much of him... busy guy

All I can say is LVC FTW!!

Nah it's more like "300" moderation

Posted by: nobody_special

I spend some a little time on explorerforum, pirate4x4.com (lurk), and nwuonline.com mostly.

nwuonline.com = teh win

Just checked out demon4x4, another explorer site. cool. I have a 93 that I am working on.

Posted by: stang99x

I gotta say, as I used to do the drop shipping thing, you're selling yourself when you do that. You need to personally at least on occasion bite the shipping and inspect the quality of the products you sell. Once you get burned, you get flamed, and that turns alot of people off to your stuff. That being said, his prices are inflated. For example; http://supercoupeperformance.com/par...spx?partId=451

that link leads to the x pipe. 89.99 on his site, same piece on ebay is 25 bucks.

The jet hot coated headers from him, 839.99 are easily purchased for about 600 bucks elsewhere. Granted he's in business to make money, but i'd rather not get

ed in the ass myself.

I woulda bought the chrome cobra r's from him, but i'd bet my ass their on back order and 239 a wheel is like ford direct pricing. Hell a used set on here just sold for 450 all 4. Granted they were used, but dayum 1000 bucks or more with shipping for those wheels.

Also, Yukon gears are well made. Being an avid offroader in the past, I can vouch for their performance. Though I just bought a set off ebay, new in the box Ford Racing with bearing and seal kit for 150 bucks.

anywayz, rant over thats my 2 cents

Posted by: kustomizingkid

You can't get those headers ANYWHERE else.....

Posted by: stang99x

as much as i hate to link this other site, their posts prove my point

http://www.markviii.org/htdocs/dc/dc...&topic_id=7510

notice the price those guys mention, 650. search and ye shall find

Posted by: kustomizingkid

So you are referencing a thread about headers that you could buy at one point in time and can't buy anymore... and they aren't the Kooks headers that Supercoupe sells that Bill owns the rights too.....

.org btw...

Posted by: stang99x

Like i said, didn't want to mention those bastards that banned me for bashing someone who was bashing lincoln (god forbid we defend our own on a website devoted to us)

And the headers are just like the cobra r rims. Try and find a set right now, no one has them in our lug pattern. its used or nothing at this point, or shell out a grand or more to some asshat with old inventory

But if you look hard enough, they are there

Posted by: ford nut

Quote:

Originally Posted by kustomizingkid

Posted by: MonsterMark

Quote:

Originally Posted by kustomizingkid

KK...as in KKK. J/K. Not really. No really. Not.

I read more posts than you can ever imagine. I can't honestly say I read them all but I glaze over most. When I'm PM'd a situation is when I pay most attention.

That said, as to your observations, you are pretty much dead on with the moderators listed although I see you left out the LS guys. But congrats NTL.

I'm sorry some of you guys are offended by our decision to allow the 1st amendment to flourish here.

Maybe ObamaLvC.com would be more to your liking.

Start one up. It's still a free country as far as I know. Well at least until Uncle Sam puts some spam in your inbox.

And FYI, I use the NEW POST function which puts every thread in front of my puss.
What can or should I say? LvC is a place to be emulated as to how to run a forum in a free country, not derided.

We all escaped the same concentration camp at one time time or another as you know.

Posted by: kustomizingkid

I hope you realize that it is all in good fun

and well I don't know all the LS mods... but there is Showofmybenz.... and that's all I know...

I think the mods do an A+ job around here.

Posted by: MonsterMark

Oh, and as far as Bill, he is more than welcome to come on here and defend himself without interference. I'll guarantee that.

I also to sell to many customers. It would be hypocritical to rip on a guy for one or even several mishaps. Call them what you may, I am not here to either defend nor indict.

All I ask is you keep the comments factual and on target. Don't use this forum to spread your personal grudge over an unsatisfactory experience. Give the owner a chance to make things right. Treat others the same way you'd like to be treated.

<sermon..over>

Posted by: MonsterMark

Quote:

Originally Posted by kustomizingkid

I think the mods do an A+ job around here.

Need some ChapStick?

Posted by: kustomizingkid

I'm good... Rich could use some though....

Posted by: luxuryrules

Quote:

Originally Posted by kustomizingkid

I see Cal in here fairly often. He & I spend a fair amount of energy arguing on the politics forums, but here in the Mark VIII forum he's a top notch source of Mark VIII info.

Who the heck is Rich, LOL?

Posted by: nobody_special

Thats good to know, I have been to some great forums, and I have been to some pretty nazified forums, too.

nice to see that the 1st amendment is flourishing in some places.

Posted by: Jeffguy11

ive done business with bill, as has my friend with a supercoupe, and everything has been amazing... he even has called to make sure everything came in alright and fit properly.

Posted by: kustomizingkid

I've heard all polarized dealings with him... it is either great or terrible... ugh

Posted by: ford nut

Quote:

Originally Posted by luxuryrules

Rich is mespock.

Cal and monster spend time in the Mark VIII forum and both post up good info

LVC is the best.

Posted by: Frogman

I don't much care for Bill Evanoff. He's always struck me as a bit arrogant when I've spoken to him on the phone. I'm sure he's a nice guy and all, but...

Posted by: pepperman

Quote:

Originally Posted by kustomizingkid

I hope you realize that it is all in good fun

and well I don't know all the LS mods... but there is Showofmybenz.... and that's all I know...

I think the mods do an A+ job around here.

Suck up j\k

Posted by: kustomizingkid

Quote:

Originally Posted by Frogman

I don't much care for Bill Evanoff. He's always struck me as a bit arrogant when I've spoken to him on the phone. I'm sure he's a nice guy and all, but...

Didn't he

you on a transmission deal?

Posted by: SCP BILL EVANOFF

Quote:

Originally Posted by Savagecat27

About 2 weeks ago I ordered a set of 4.10's from supercoupeperformance. He told me they were Ykon gears and I did a little research and All I heard was good things about that brand so I ordered them. Didn't really inspect them when they got to my house. Brought them to the guy I was having install them for me and he calls me later on in the day and tells me there cheap gears made in China, he said if they were Yukon gears it would be stamped on the gears, he said he couldn't even get the pinion to seat correctly in it. Luckily he had a spear set of Ford Racing 4.10's sitting on the shelf so he installed those. Moral of the story Supercoupe performance sucks.

Ouch, I'm suprised that you would whip me after I explained to you in detail over the phone what I believe may have happened with your gears and you seemed happy with my answer.

Here is what I shared with this customer: We do NOT sell cheap Chinese made gears nor will we ever do so. The gears I sent him were from Richmond Gear and are considered first tier quality. I don't know why his installer took issue with them but I've ran across more than one mechanic in my time who bad mouthed a product that the customer brought in for them to install in simply because they didn't have the opportunity to sell the customer that part themselves and lost some $ because of that. I don't know if this is the case here but it certainly sounds like it as Richmond makes an excellent product.

We typically do sell Yukon gears and do so because they have one of the lowest warranty rates in the industry. We got a good deal on a few of the Richmonds recently and in my mind there is no difference in quality so the customer should be satisfied either way.

SCP ALWAYS takes care of their customers and ask anyone who has an issue to call Bill Evanoff first to receive satisfaction before you jump on line to tell your friends that "SCP Sucks". SCP continues to be the premier supplier for the FN10 community and will always back its products and service in an uncompromising fashion!

Posted by: nobody_special

Good to hear the other side of the story.

I concur on Richmond Gears, I have 4.56s for a D44 and they are good quality. Not chinese knock offs.

Posted by: Roadboss

Wouldn't suprise me if the Yukon Gears were made by Richmond as Yukon doesn't make what they sell. It is very expensive to acquire the equipment and technology to make gears that's why there are several channels in their maketing.

Posted by: timothyr

glad to see this is all coming out as I am building my shopping list for bill.

And from experience, I will totally back his remark of the mechanic bashing a part they did not sell....everyone is out to make money, some less ethically then others. I used to run into this all the time when I owned a technology company.

Posted by: Calabrio

Quote:

Originally Posted by mespock

You can't beat Eddie for Service ... he's the guy to go with.

Just posting in agreement.
I like doing business with Eddie at American Air Suspension.

Posted by: kustomizingkid

Ford Racing sells gears made by Motive...

Posted by: Savagecat27

I wrote this before I talked to you sorry about that

Posted by: Savagecat27

I'll admit I was debating on putting this thread up and I kind of felt bad after I did.

Posted by: XLRVIII

Bill is good people, everyone knows that.

I'm fairly certain "this" post did no harm to bill other than maybe hurt his feelings abit.

It'd take more than 1 unsatisfied customer to hurt bills business, he's got a very large and strong following.

I buy stuff from Bill, and I'll continue to do so.
he's always treated us/me right and with respect.

Posted by: MonsterMark

Quote:

Originally Posted by Savagecat27

I'll admit I was debating on putting this thread up and I kind of felt bad after I did.

So apologize to him. If he attempted to make things right, you should point that out to everyone else here.

I sell a lot of stuff. Thankfully not $20-$100 at a time but I wouldn't like it if someone was running me down over one issue that we both worked to resolve.

Ball is in your court.

Posted by: CobraStar_LS8

this thread proves Bill's great service

I'm coming with a some moola Bill...

Posted by: stang99x

Quote:

Originally Posted by SCP BILL EVANOFF

As someone who installs stuff, I gotta say, I don't knock parts brought to me, I just don't give any warranty on the install for product failure of products I don't source myself.....cause its not my fault if parts supplied by the customer fail. That being said, I don't try and sell anyone anything, if they ask for it I'll get it or if they bring it I'll install it

Posted by: Savagecat27

Were those Richmond gears though because I didn't see anything there says they were they just came in a white box with no pamphlet or anything and it wasn't stamped into the gears or anything. If they were Richmond gears I am sorry but after I payed $30 shipping for the trans filter I already had This just kind of aggrevated me.