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Barack without his teleprompter

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Posted by: MonsterMark

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZxBX8sz3tO8

Can't wait for the Town Hall Meetings

Posted by: fossten

Heh.

Posted by: Marcus

They block youtube where I work but I assume this is the same clip Rush played this morning of Obama. One thing you may not be aware of is that most of the time the mics they use are very directional and won't pick up ambient noise, i.e., crowd noise in this case. Ever tried speaking when you can't hear your own voice? It's very difficult.

Posted by: Tricky-Dick

If he was as sharp as Ronald Reagan he would write his own speeches!

Posted by: MonsterMark

Quote:

Originally Posted by TommyB

They block youtube where I work but I assume this is the same clip Rush played this morning of Obama. One thing you may not be aware of is that most of the time the mics they use are very directional and won't pick up ambient noise, i.e., crowd noise in this case. Ever tried speaking when you can't hear your own voice? It's very difficult.

Wrong. Try again.

Plus, I didn't send Rush any video/audio clips for him to play today.

Obama can't speak without a teleprompter.

That will become painfully obvious to you in the debates, especially Town Hall style where Bush handed Kerry his arse too.

Posted by: TheDude

Quote:

Originally Posted by MonsterMark

I highly doubt it, as anyone can't mess up. We'll see in the debates though.

Also, isn't kind of silly for you to say "look, Obama can't speak well, he's a fool", after you've been alright with 8 years of Bush's atrocious talking blunders?

Posted by: fossten

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Originally Posted by 95DevilleNS

Not really, since Bush never purported to be The Messiah. Obama's only, only, ONLY strength is his speaking ability. If he blows that in a debate, it's over.

Posted by: MonsterMark

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Originally Posted by 95DevilleNS

Humm, let's see.

I thought the ONLY reason to vote for Obama was because he was such a good speaker? Am I missing something?

OH,
Vote for him because he is black.
Vote for him because he is a racist in reverse.
Vote for him because he has no track record.
Vote for him because he has never had a real job in the real world.
Vote for him because he is a Dem.
Vote for him because he wants to surrender.
Vote for him because he is a Muslim sympathizer.
Vote for him because he wants change.

From ‘Dreams of my Father: “In Indonesia, I had spent two years at a Muslim school” “I studied the Koran..”

From ‘Audacity of Hope: “Lolo (Obama’s step father) followed a brand of Islam ….”I looked to Lolo for guidance”.

From ‘The Audacity Of Hope: “I will stand with the Muslims should the political winds shift in an ugly direction.”

Under Islamic law: You are a Muslim if you are the son of a Muslim.

Obama has never renounced the religion he was born into. Hummmmmmm.

I think that about covers it.

Posted by: Tricky-Dick

Quote:

Originally Posted by MonsterMark

I agree 100%! Only thing is:

"Vote for him because he is a racist in reverse."

There is no such thing as "Reverse Racisism".

The Blacks do not hold the patent on it!

Posted by: MonsterMark

BHO is 50% Caucasian from his mother's side.
43.75% Arabic and 6.25% African Negro from his father's side.
Obama's father was from Kenya, BUT his father's family was mainly Arabs.
B. Hussein Obama's father was only 12.5% African Negro and 87.5% Arab.
His dad’s birth certificate even states he's Arab, not African.

Posted by: MonsterMark

Kristoff from the New York Times a year ago:

Mr. Obama recalled the opening lines of the Arabic call to prayer, reciting them with a first-rate accent........Mr. Obama described the call to prayer as 'one of the prettiest sounds on Earth at sunset.'

Posted by: TheDude

Quote:

Originally Posted by MonsterMark

A good speaker is a plus; some might say a necessity of a great leader. I don't know anyone who said "vote for Obama simply because he can talk and doesn't make up works like Bush." Maybe you do.

LoL... I always love, those fear-tactics, "he's racist, he's a Muslim, he's an appeaser, he hates America". Personally, even if he were a Muslim (which he isn't), I couldn't care less if he did his role proper as President of the US, which is to do what's in America's best interest. That's just me though, you can vote for the guy who arbitrarily drops the "God" word, because he knows that alone will gain him votes.

Posted by: MonsterMark

I'm voting for the guy that will protect America. And that ain't Obama.

Posted by: TheDude

I'm voting for the guy who will both protect America and do what's in our best interest; given the choices presented to me, I'm going with Obama.

Read it as: I'm voting for a Muslim in disguise, appeasing, racist Negro who hates America and will personally let in "dirty bombs".

Oh, we'll see about that "can't speak well" soon enough, be ready to eat crow.

Posted by: Tricky-Dick

Quote:

Originally Posted by 95DevilleNS

I'm voting for the guy who will both protect America and do what's in our best interest; given the choices presented to me, I'm going with Obama.

Read it as: I'm voting for a Muslim in disguise, appeasing, racist Negro who hates America and will personally let in "dirty bombs".

Oh, we'll see about that "can't speak well" soon enough, be ready to eat crow.

Good Luck with that! Will you still be on the "boards" if "Osama" does get the vote still pounding your chest for him as he drops our country in the grease?

Free Healthcare for everyone!!! Yeah...how do we pay for "Free Healthcare"? Let's raise taxes!

Nice Spin Democrats!

Posted by: nightriddah

by the slim chance the secret societies allow him to become president,
he'll be assasinated anyway.

Posted by: TheDude

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tricky-Dick

No, I'll be judging him by his actions/inactions, not because he's a Democrat or Liberal. Will you still be saying he's a terrible president if he scoops the country out of the frying pan, simply because he's a Dem/Lib?

Posted by: Marcus

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Originally Posted by MonsterMark

Wrong. Try again.

Wow, what a great retort!

I could prove what I say is right but that would take some effort on your part. Get yourself a music player of some sort with headphones, adjust the volume really loud so you can't hear yourself talk, and then try to explain to someone, in a normal voice, some random subject, like the plot of the last episode of a TV show you watched. You end up sounding like a fool. Trust me, I've been in professional recording studios during the recording process, and singers cannot sing unless they are able to hear themselves over the headphones.

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Originally Posted by MonsterMark

Plus, I didn't send Rush any video/audio clips for him to play today.

Huh? You're supplying Rush with all his audio clips these days?

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Originally Posted by MonsterMark

Obama can't speak without a teleprompter.

So in all the Democratic debates and in interviews, he had a teleprompter just off-camera? Please.

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Originally Posted by MonsterMark

That will become painfully obvious to you in the debates, especially Town Hall style where Bush handed Kerry his arse too.

We'll see won't we?

Posted by: TheDude

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Originally Posted by nightriddah

by the slim chance the secret societies allow him to become president,
he'll be assasinated anyway.

Are you a David Icke follower?

Posted by: Marcus

Quote:

Originally Posted by nightriddah

by the slim chance the secret societies allow him to become president,
he'll be assasinated anyway.

Is this supposed to be funny or something?

Posted by: Marcus

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Originally Posted by MonsterMark

I think that about covers it.

You forgot "Changed his name to Barry".

Posted by: nightriddah

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Originally Posted by TommyB

Is this supposed to be funny or something?

not at all, somebody would actually try it. you honestly never thought of that possibility? we live in a society where 32 people can be killed just by going to college. i would like to think that we are past that, but hell no.
just being real........

Posted by: nightriddah

Quote:

Originally Posted by 95DevilleNS

Are you a David Icke follower?

(lol) not at all........

Posted by: Tricky-Dick

Quote:

Originally Posted by 95DevilleNS

Really? For someone with 41 threads started on these boards (40 of them being political) mostly taking shots at the Republicans or President Bush are we to believe you would be judging someone like McCain the same way as you would judge Obama?

Try repeating to yourself what you plan on typing a few more times and then, maybe then we will believe you a portion of the amount you believe yourself.

Posted by: TheDude

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tricky-Dick

LoL. The good ole' "you only post this/that!" rant.

I rarely if ever post outside the political forum here, that is true. The vast majority of the time I "take a shot", is in retaliation. You'll notice the "Obama/Clinton/Any Democrat is a *insert negative*" trend here, hell, Monster is making them daily.

I initially didn't have anything seriously negative to say about Bush (didn't vote for him either) and you'll notice, I have yet to say anything seriously negative about McCain, unless you call "I'm voting for Obama" as taking a shot at McCain. Please feel free to point out my massive insultings of McCain, surely if it is that bad, you should have no problem. Proceed.

Don't point the finger at someone for something you do yourself; it makes you look like a hypocrite. Just an FYI.

Posted by: Tricky-Dick

Quote:

Originally Posted by 95DevilleNS

How can you say "the good old I post this / that rant" when it's in Black and White?

Why would you change the subject of my post...to play a "shell game"? I never said you posted anything about McCain?

And then lets put the attention back on me...I'm a hypocrite? For what, because I pointed out that you lean towards the left and then say [I]"I'll be judging him by his actions/inactions, not because he's a Democrat or Liberal. Will you still be saying he's a terrible president if he scoops the country out of the frying pan, simply because he's a Dem/Lib?"[/i]

You're a funny guy!

Posted by: TheDude

You did say:

"41 threads started on these boards (40 of them being political) mostly taking shots at the Republicans or President Bush are we to believe you would be judging someone like McCain the same way as you would judge Obama?"

and I did mention that I have yet to bash McCain, which clearly would point that I don't have (or it's possible that I don't) a negative opinion of him solidified.

If your only point was to say "you lean to the left", then sure, you're right, Holmes.

Posted by: Tricky-Dick

Quote:

Originally Posted by 95DevilleNS

You did say:

"41 threads started on these boards (40 of them being political) mostly taking shots at the Republicans or President Bush are we to believe you would be judging someone like McCain the same way as you would judge Obama?"

and I did mention that I have yet to bash McCain, which clearly would point that I don't have (or it's possible that I don't) a negative opinion of him solidified.

If your only point was to say "you lean to the left", then sure, you're right, Holmes.

If you did bash McCain would you also be at will to bash Obama?

I'm pretty sure it's obvious which way you lean.

I on the other hand will admit when I don't feel either candidate is a great choice...while you will continue to lean.

At this time I really don't care for either candidate...but I believe McCain to be the lesser of two evils...Chief.

Posted by: fossten

Quote:

Originally Posted by 95DevilleNS

You'll judge him by his actions/inactions? What are you judging him by at the moment? Can you name anything that he's accomplished without looking it up?

Posted by: shagdrum

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Originally Posted by 95DevilleNS

I rarely if ever post outside the political forum here, that is true. The vast majority of the time I "take a shot", is in retaliation

the shots Tricky-dick was talking were not the shots you take at the republicans on this board, as you were talkin about. The republicans he was talking about were those in the news that are part of the topic of discussion. There is no way that your "shots" at the republicans he is talking about are in retaliation, as those republicans never post on this board. More mischaracterization and misdirection on your part it seems.

If you are talking about the republicans posting on this board (which are the only ones it is even possible to need to retaliate to) , then this obviously has to be a joke, too. You often take cheap shots here as a dishonest means of debating. You wrongly accuse people of hypocracy and attempt to marginalize them all the time, as in post #11 in this thread:
http://www.lincolnvscadillac.com/showthread.php?t=42900

The only way your shots are retaliation most of the time is in retaliation to someone countering or discrediting your argument. You work to discredit them through marginalizing them; not discrediting their argument (which you have a bad habit of mischaracterizing). Your shots are not usually in retaliation to someone first taking a cheap shot at you.

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Please feel free to point out my massive insultings of McCain, surely if it is that bad, you should have no problem. Proceed.

Tricky-dick never said anything about insulting McCain here, you are mischaracterizing him and attempting to raise the burden of proof. He pointed out that it is rather obvious you have a double standard when it comes to Republicans.

For someone with 41 threads started on these boards (40 of them being political) mostly taking shots at the Republicans or President Bush are we to believe you would be judging someone like McCain the same way as you would judge Obama?

There is no way you can get "insulting McCain" from that. Try countering his argument, not mischaracterizing it to set up a straw-man and then knock that straw-man down.

Posted by: shagdrum

Quote:

Originally Posted by fossten

You'll judge him by his actions/inactions? What are you judging him by at the moment? Can you name anything that he's accomplished without looking it up?

Good point.

Posted by: fossten

Since we're predicting what Obama will or will not do, I'll throw in my own little tidbit:

Senate Democrats Want Trillions in New Taxes
Monday, June 9, 2008 8:30 AM

By: Newsmax Staff

The spending plan approved by the Senate last week fails to extend President Bush’s tax cuts — and could lead to the largest tax increase in U.S. history.

“Make no mistake: This tax hike is gargantuan,” the Investor’s Business Daily states in an editorial.

“Simply by not making Bush’s tax cuts permanent, taxes will rise by a minimum of $2.8 trillion between now and 2018.”

The IBD says that if the tax cuts are allowed to expire in 2010:

Spending will rise by half a trillion dollars over the next five years. And the Democrats will pay for it by raising taxes by $683 billion — “the biggest such increase ever.”

About 48 million married couples — “the heart of the middle class that Democrats say they want to help” — will see an average annual tax increase of $3,007.

The tax bill for the elderly will rise $2,181 a year on average.

A single parent with two children earning $30,000 a year will see a tax hike of $1,600.

A family of four earning $50,000 a year will be hit with a tax increase of 191 percent.

The 2009 budget for the first time ever spends $1 trillion on discretionary items — non-defense, non-entitlement.

“This is a foretaste of future fiscal recklessness under a Barack Obama presidency (he voted for the bill),” the IBD observes.

Noting that the budget would weaken the economy and kill job growth, the IBD concludes: “This is supply-side economics in reverse — creating massive disincentives to work, save and invest, and shrinking the pie.”

Posted by: Marcus

As Bill Adama once said, "Context matters"...

Quote:

Originally Posted by MonsterMark

From ‘Dreams of my Father: “In Indonesia, I had spent two years at a Muslim school” “I studied the Koran..”

And the full quote:

In Indonesia, I had spent two years at a Muslim school, two years at a Catholic school. In the Muslim school, the teacher wrote to tell my mother that I made faces during Koranic studies. My mother wasn't overly concerned. 'Be respectful,' she'd said. In the Catholic school, when it came time to pray, I would pretend to close my eyes, then peek around the room. Nothing happened. No angels descended. Just a parched old nun and thirty brown children, muttering words. Sometimes the nun would catch me, and her stern look would force my lids back shut.

Sounds like a typical kid who's bored in religion classes. A far cry from what your isolated quote tries to suggest.

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Originally Posted by MonsterMark

From ‘Audacity of Hope: “Lolo (Obama’s step father) followed a brand of Islam ….”I looked to Lolo for guidance”.

Like many Indonesians, Lolo followed a brand of Islam that could make room for remnants of more ancient animist and Hindu faiths...

The world was violent, I was learning, unpredictable and often cruel. My grandparents knew nothing about such a world, I decided; there was no point in disturbing them with questions they couldn't answer. Sometimes, when my mother came home from work, I would tell her the things I had seen or heard, snd she would stroke my forehead, listening intently, trying her best to explain what she could, and I always appreciated the attention--her voice, the touch of her hand, defined all that was secure. But her knowledge of [Indonesian] floods and exorcisms and cockfights left much to be desired. Everything was as new to her as it was to me, and I would leave such conversations feeling that my questions had only given her unnecessary cause for concern. So it was to Lolo I turned for guidance and instruction.

First, Obama mentions that his father belonged to a Islamic sect that was open to other religious views, then several paragraphs later he talks about how he turned to his father for questions about the world and the land he was living in. Again, just like ANY kid would do. What's wrong with that?

Quote:

Originally Posted by MonsterMark

From ‘The Audacity Of Hope: “I will stand with the Muslims should the political winds shift in an ugly direction.”

This is the most despicable deception of all your quotes.

In the wake of 9/11, my meetings with Arab and Pakistani Americans have a more urgent quality, for the stories of detentions and FBI questioning and hard stares from neighbors have shaken their sense of security and belonging. I will stand with them should the political winds shift in an ugly direction.

Obama is assuring American Muslims that he will not allow their FREEDOMS to be taken away as they were for many in the aftermath of 9/11. Those are core AMERICAN values in case you weren't aware. Your quote suggests that once something happens he'll turn the country over to the Jihadists. Which is complete and utter BS.

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Originally Posted by MonsterMark

Under Islamic law: You are a Muslim if you are the son of a Muslim.

Setting aside ignorant right-wingers who need to believe that, there may indeed be Muslims who believe it too. But it doesn't matter what anyone else believes because he has stated unequivocally that he is a Christian. Islam doesn't allow for being a "secret" Muslim.

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Originally Posted by MonsterMark

Obama has never renounced the religion he was born into. Hummmmmmm.

Why the hell should he?

Posted by: shagdrum

Quote:

Originally Posted by TommyB

As Bill Adama once said, "Context matters"...

Ahh the Battlestar Galactica reference!! Gotta love it. Can't wait until the midseason cliffhanger this friday. Now FRAK OFF!

Posted by: shagdrum

In all seriousness, I have a hard time buying the idea that Obama is a sleeper agent for a terrorist organization, but certain elements in his past should raise some red flags for most Americans, considering the context of the war on terror. He should be forced to address those concerns if he is aspiring for the highest office in the land. If the media were doin its job as political watchdog, he would have to address them. Instead he gets away without addressing these issues, because the media is in the tank for Obama and attacks anyone who brings these issues up.

Posted by: Jayce 1971

Doesn't ANYTHING have to be better than the status quo? I don't understand HOW it could get any worse. I don't personally know anyone who has prospered with the Bush administration in office. I know alot of people who's 401K's have gone down the

ter, though. What are we left to choose from, and how can any of the candidates running actually make a difference? Dirty bombs...please, (sounds like scare tactics, and it doesn't work). I seriously doubt if they'd get one within 1500 miles of MY home, if they did come up with the technology. I'd choose "None of the above" if Brewster was running.

Posted by: Marcus

Quote:

Originally Posted by shagdrum

Ahh the Battlestar Galactica reference!! Gotta love it. Can't wait until the midseason cliffhanger this friday. Now FRAK OFF!

Yeah it's been a strange season so far, but still better than anything else on TV. Looks like Earth is on the horizon next week, going by the previews.

But I digress...

Posted by: TheDude

Quote:

Originally Posted by shagdrum

For someone with 41 threads started on these boards (40 of them being political) mostly taking shots at the Republicans or President Bush are we to believe you would be judging someone like McCain the same way as you would judge Obama?

There is no way you can get "insulting McCain" from that. Try countering his argument, not mischaracterizing it to set up a straw-man and then knock that straw-man down.

Do you ever stop with all your bullsh!t?

I was talking about taking shots at Republicans (eg Bush, Cheney, McCain etc), in return for shots taken at the Democrats on similar subjects. You'll notice that I don't spend my time making "Republicans are evil bastard" threads, unlike the numerous "Democrats are evil bastards" threads that litter this board.

As far as me personally insulting people in here, again, I rarely do, if I do, it's usually in retaliation. The majority of the time, I brush it off. I've received more than my share of personal insults, from my wife to my children, yet I rarely if ever dip that low.

LoL, still sore that I pointed out your hypocrisy? Let it go, champ.

Posted by: TheDude

Quote:

Originally Posted by fossten

You'll judge him by his actions/inactions? What are you judging him by at the moment? Can you name anything that he's accomplished without looking it up?

Yes, once (if) he's in office, I'll judge him by what he does, not simply "he's a Dem, he can do no wrong" approach. My point.

I've agreed he has little experience. Given the two viable choices though, I'm voting for him instead of McCain.

Posted by: fossten

Quote:

Originally Posted by 95DevilleNS

Listen to yourself. "I admit that he has no experience, and so I have nothing to base my judgment on, but I'll vote for him anyway, and judge him after the fact."

What logic.

Posted by: 04SCTLS

So far his greatest achievement has been winning the Democratic nomination.

Posted by: Marcus

I think history has demonstrated that experience doesn't always equate to competence.

Posted by: pokeeto2

I'm not trying to kiss A** here but McCain isn't perfect either.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3aMDJP4VxY4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QhzQKOMOSOg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1h9Li1tQTA4

Posted by: MonsterMark

Nobody wants McCain to be a teleprompter queen. We want sound fiscal policy and firm deplomacy out of him. That, and close the borders and give us a couple of judges that will fairly interpret the law, not make it. That's all.

Oh, and drill wherever necessary, and God forbid, do not fall for the stupid global warming 'steal from the rich and give to the poor' shell game.

Posted by: shagdrum

Quote:

Originally Posted by 95DevilleNS

LoL, still sore that I pointed out your hypocrisy? Let it go, champ.

You didn't point out any hypocrisy on my part. You tend to mischaracterize someones argument (set up a straw man) then accuse them of hypocrisy. There really isn't much foundation in your claims though. It is nothing but an underhanded attempt to change the focus of the debate to the person making the debate; ad hominem reasoning.

Posted by: fossten

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Originally Posted by TommyB

I think history has demonstrated that experience doesn't always equate to competence.

That's pretty weak, Tommy. You really look at Obama and think he'll be a competent President? This guy is a neophyte. His gaffes are more ludicrous than Bush's. Remember when he said he'd invade Pakistan? At least Bush knows how many states are in the union.

Posted by: TheDude

Quote:

Originally Posted by fossten

Listen to yourself. "I admit that he has no experience, and so I have nothing to base my judgment on, but I'll vote for him anyway, and judge him after the fact."

What logic.

I said "little experience", not "no experience", it's not like Toby McGuire is running and people are voting for him.

For a guy who's utterly disenfranchised with America and can't stand either candidate, you sure do point the finger a lot.

So, given the Obama or McCain choice, who will you vote for and why, using your logic?

Posted by: TheDude

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Originally Posted by shagdrum

Glad you got that off your chest.

Posted by: fossten

Quote:

Originally Posted by 95DevilleNS

I said "little experience", not "no experience", it's not like Toby McGuire is running and people are voting for him.

It doesn't matter. You have nothing to judge him by currently, yet you're going to vote for him and then find out later how well you did. That's illogical and irresponsible.

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For a guy who's utterly disenfranchised with America and can't stand either candidate, you sure do point the finger a lot.

"Disenfranchised with America" is a nonsense phrase. Perhaps you meant "disenchanted?" Either way, your premise is wrong. And pointing the finger is exactly what a disillusioned or disenchanted person would do, so what is your point?

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So, given the Obama or McCain choice, who will you vote for and why, using your logic?

I've already answered this, I will not vote for either, as neither is qualified to run the country. Using my logic.

Posted by: TheDude

Some might say that not voting is both "illogical and irresponsible", they're probably just stupid though.

Posted by: fossten

Quote:

Originally Posted by 95DevilleNS

Some might say that not voting is both "illogical and irresponsible", they're probably just stupid though.

I'm sure some consider it irresponsible - throwing away a vote, etc. But the nice thing about freedom and citizenship is the option to use my vote in any way I choose. Since the Republican Party and the media chose to take away my vote in the primaries, I'm choosing to take it away from them in the general.

Posted by: MonsterMark

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Originally Posted by fossten

....I'm choosing to take it away from them in the general.

ensuring the worst possible candidate gets the Oval Office chair. Nice rationalization. Cut off your nose to spite your face.

Posted by: fossten

Quote:

Originally Posted by MonsterMark

ensuring the worst possible candidate gets the Oval Office chair. Nice rationalization. Cut off your nose to spite your face.

Hey, McCain doesn't need my vote. He's got La Raza. He called me a racist for opposing his McShamnesty Plan for America. He took away my right to freedom of speech with his campaign finance reform bill. My vote doesn't count anyway. The Dems have Diebold machines and dead people voting for them, so this election is going to be a screw job anyway.

Posted by: TheDude

So the premise has now been set-up, if the Dems win, it's because they cheated. Awesome.

Posted by: TheDude

Hey Monster,

Do you foresee many Ron Paul supporters simply not voting?

Posted by: MAC1

Quote:

Originally Posted by 95DevilleNS

Just go to YouTube and search for "Obama gaffs" and you find a slew of his mumblings and nonsense--literally. There's one video showing Obama making no sense during one of the democrat debates. And some compare Obama to JFK. What a joke.

As Larry Holmes once said: He couldn't carry my jock strap--in reference to Rocky Marciano. Likewise, Obama couldn't hold JFK's jock strap--it's all a bunch of liberal propaganda to get Obama elected.

Posted by: TheDude

Then this will surely come out during the debates when all eyes are on him and McCain, he'll be exposed for the stumbling and bumbling fool and the Reps will be that much closer to a victory.

Have to wonder though, why the fear from the Right?

Posted by: fossten

Quote:

Originally Posted by 95DevilleNS

Then this will surely come out during the debates when all eyes are on him and McCain, he'll be exposed for the stumbling and bumbling fool and the Reps will be that much closer to a victory.

And yet you'll still vote for him.

Posted by: TheDude

Funny that you're the one guy (besides Shagdrum) to cry "strawman" at every chance.

My vote isn't 100% concrete, I still have to see who Obama and McCain choose for VP. I'll also be watching the debates.

A guy who has already decided to sit this one out because his savior-candidate didn't make the cut, shouldn't be pointing fingers at the choices of others, just saying. *comfort smilie here*

Posted by: shagdrum

Quote:

Originally Posted by 95DevilleNS

I said "little experience", not "no experience", it's not like Toby McGuire is running and people are voting for him.

Well, who wouldn't want Spider-Man in office?

Who would be the V.P. on that ticket?

Posted by: fossten

Quote:

Originally Posted by 95DevilleNS

A guy who has already decided to sit this one out because his savior-candidate didn't make the cut, shouldn't be pointing fingers at the choices of others, just saying. *comfort smilie here*

You have no basis whatsoever on which to make that claim. More proof by assertion.

I guarantee you I have spent more time and thought into my decision than you have into yours.

Just saying.

Posted by: TheDude

Quote:

Originally Posted by fossten

You have no basis whatsoever on which to make that claim. More proof by assertion.

I guarantee you I have spent more time and thought into my decision than you have into yours.

Just saying.

With all your talk/hype of Ron Paul in previous threads, I have a basis for that claim. Oh yes, I do.

Since you guarantee it, okay.

Posted by: fossten

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Originally Posted by 95DevilleNS

With all your talk/hype of Ron Paul in previous threads, I have a basis for that claim. Oh yes, I do.

Since you guarantee it, okay.

You misread your own post. You said I shouldn't be pointing fingers. I can point fingers all I want, there is no reason I shouldn't. At least I know what my candidate stands for. You have zero clue about Obama.

Posted by: TheDude

Sure I did. Do continue to take your shots, while you have the comfort-zone of not voting so you can sit behind your computer and bitch for the next four years, no matter who wins.

Posted by: fossten

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Originally Posted by 95DevilleNS

Sure I did. Do continue to take your shots, while you have the comfort-zone of not voting so you can sit behind your computer and bitch for the next four years, no matter who wins.

If you truly think I'm comfortable with the prospect of the next four years, you're sadly mistaken.

Posted by: shagdrum

Obama scares the crap outta me.