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SCT XCal3 Might Not Work With Your LS

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Posted by: nearlyhalfamile

So I just wanted to put something out there for a lot of you that might be considering going with an X3 tuner from SCT. I looked at everything on their site about it and by all accounts, they show that the X3 would work with my 2001 LS V8... but it doesn't. The X3 has preloaded tunes that are suppose to work for 2000-2006 LS or can be loaded with custom tunes. However upon getting one and connecting it to the car, I get an error message stating that my vehicle isn't supported and to contact SCT. I contacted SCT and gave them my info and confirmed that I was using the latest firmware for it and the latest tune file and was given the response... "sorry for your inconvenience... but we DON'T support your car... and that I should take it in for "service" and have my car reflashed with a different statedgy from the dealership... and then the X3 MIGHT work with my car." I called the local dealer-stealership and asked how much it would be to reflash and they said it would be $85 and that they would need the car there atleast for 2 hours.

So what burns me about this is that NOTHING on the SCT site said this could happen, if anything it was the opposite and SCT would be ontop of it if the tuner didn't work and they would provide me with an updated tune version, however this isn't the case. The tuner is suppose to work out of the box for my car... it doesn't and to MAYBE make it work I have to sink more money and time into it. I also have to say that I have been less then happy with the service I have gotten from SCT. I called them during business hours, but kept getting a message that their business hours were closed even though by the times they gave in the message they should have been open. So right now I'm waiting to hear back from them but I doubt that is going anywhere from my current responses and I'm sitting here with a brand new X3 that works says it works on my car, but doesn't actually work on my car.

So if you are planning on getting an X3, don't be that sure it will work for you just by the info you get from SCT.

Posted by: gcwimmer

Another good reason to use Torrie at fastpartsnetwork.com or PM ILLS on this form. Two trusted SCT tuners.

Posted by: NYC LS8

The Xcal3 works on the LS just not with SCT's canned tunes. Like was mentioned, get a hold of Torrie or ILLS and it'll work fine. I personally know someone with the X3 and it works on his 02 with no problems.

Sorry to hear about your luck, but it sounds typical of SCT to be honest.

Posted by: NickT88LSC

I have the SCT XCAL 3 as Tommy mentioned, it did not have a tune availible for my car from go either, Torrie did some for me.

Posted by: 97stscaddy

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preloaded tunes that are suppose to work for 2000-2006 LS

Sorry to hear about your luck, (or lack of) with this. This needs to be pointed out though. The 00 - 02 model LS V8s had different engines than the 03 - 06. You should never expect tunes for the first gen V8 to work on the second gen V8, and vise versa.

Posted by: gcwimmer

The tune on SCT Xcal is tied to Your VIN and can't be loaded on another auto.

Posted by: tmcphail

If you purchase the X3 or Livewire from a Dealer that has the LS software and can pre program it with custom files there isn't an issue.

Take care,
Mr. Torrie R. McPhail

Posted by: NYC LS8

Hey..look who it is

Posted by: tmcphail

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Originally Posted by NYC LS8

Hey..look who it is

Shhh don't tell anyone

Take care,
Mr. Torrie R. McPhail

Posted by: 97stscaddy

Just for farts and laughs, what makes the X3 so special?

Posted by: tmcphail

Nothing. Its the skill of the tuner building the calibrations for the device that make it worthwhile

Posted by: 97stscaddy

So... why make a whole new tuning device if it does nothing more than the old model?

Posted by: tmcphail

So I guess your sole question here is what are the differences between the old Xcal2 and the X3 power flash correct ?

Take care,
Mr. Torrie R. McPhail

Posted by: gcwimmer

Who is that masked man?

Posted by: GWL

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Originally Posted by 97stscaddy

So... why make a whole new tuning device if it does nothing more than the old model?

Marketing?

Posted by: owlman

cuz people will buy it?

Posted by: tmcphail

Quote:

Originally Posted by GWL

Marketing?

Current and future vehicle support primarily. The xcal2 doesn't have the memory to hold the newer more complex calibrations so its being phased out for the X3.

Take care,
Mr. Torrie R. McPhail

Posted by: 97stscaddy

Fair enough.

Posted by: lslove

i have a 2002 LS v8. Ive read to talk to torrie at fastparts. When i place an order for the x3 from them do i need to tell them it is for a 2002 LS so they can program files for it,or will it automatically work like it should?!

Posted by: tmcphail

Order with your vin and modification list in notes and I will take care of the rest.

Posted by: lslove

you work there?! and my mods list is nothing does that matter or just make it easier for you guys?

Posted by: Firthockeydog

Quote:

Originally Posted by lslove

i have a 2002 LS v8. Ive read to talk to torrie at fastparts. When i place an order for the x3 from them do i need to tell them it is for a 2002 LS so they can program files for it,or will it automatically work like it should?!

You do know you're talking to the master....right?

Posted by: lslove

also if i tune it before i mod anything such as exhaust cold air, will i get same improvement as if i tuned after mods?!

Posted by: Firthockeydog

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Originally Posted by lslove

you work there?!

Ummmm.... does anyone find this as ironic as I do?

haha

Posted by: lslove

im unaware im a new LS owner about 2 months and I havent been on here in a while. If so im humbled than to be speaking to him

Posted by: tmcphail

Quote:

Originally Posted by lslove

you work there?! and my mods list is nothing does that matter or just make it easier for you guys?

Ok skip that and make sure you order with the VIN

Posted by: tmcphail

Quote:

Originally Posted by Firthockeydog

Ummmm.... does anyone find this as ironic as I do?

haha

Sssshhhh

Posted by: tmcphail

Quote:

Originally Posted by lslove

also if i tune it before i mod anything such as exhaust cold air, will i get same improvement as if i tuned after mods?!

No worries I can make it all work together seamlessly

Posted by: lslove

can somebody let me in on this what stupid comment did I make :P

Posted by: lslove

and order from fastparts, sorry guys if these are dumb or annoying questions I jsut want as little problems with mods as possible

Posted by: tmcphail

You didn't do anything wrong I own the company.

Torrie

Posted by: lslove

ahhhh lol, that explains it. Will do thanks alot guys, and thanks for the quick responses.

Posted by: TDUB

Quote:

Originally Posted by lslove

can somebody let me in on this what stupid comment did I make :P

LMAO; let me clue you in: tmcphail IS Torrie from Fast Parts Network.