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Why are Ron Paul Supporters so Angry?

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Posted by: fossten

WHY ARE RON PAUL'S SUPPORTERS SO ANGRY?

By Pastor Chuck Baldwin

January 29, 2008

NewsWithViews.com

When Glenn Beck interviewed Congressman Ron Paul a few weeks ago, he said that he had received death threats from people purporting to be Ron Paul supporters. I have heard other journalists make similar accusations against Congressman Paul's supporters. Of course, I have no way of knowing whether any of this is true or not. And neither does anyone else.

My own experience has been that Congressman Paul's supporters have always demonstrated grace, patience, and courtesy. I have met and worked alongside Ron Paul supporters in at least four states, and I have never personally witnessed any of the anger and bitterness of which they are accused.

Not that Ron Paul's supporters do not have reason to be angry. They most certainly do. In fact, all of us should be angry.

Ron Paul's supporters have been subjected to the most overt and outlandish brand of humiliation and censorship ever seen in modern politics. The cable news Republican Presidential debates have been jokes. For every one question (and usually a stupid, irrelevant question at that) asked of Dr. Paul, the other participants will get three or four. Maybe more. Even though Ron Paul has received more money, more votes, and more delegates than Rudy Giuliani, the press continues to ignore Mr. Paul while showering Giuliani with coverage.

In addition, Ron Paul's own party continues to treat him and his supporters as second-class citizens--or perhaps even as aliens from a different planet. They are subjected to insults of every type. Not to mention enduring every conceivable method to censure or remove Dr. Paul from the political process. He has been denied access to platforms, excluded from debates, removed from GOP Presidential lists, etc., ad infinitum, ad nauseam.

I say again: if anyone has a right to be angry, it is Ron Paul supporters. But perhaps the greater question is, Why are not all of us angry? No, I do not mean in a cruel or unkind way, but where is our outrage for what the ruling elite are doing to our country?

We should all be angry at the way politicians lie to us, deceive us, and manipulate us. We should all be angry at the way both major parties have completely ignored and trampled constitutional government.

Are we so gullible that we cannot see when a politician says one thing to one group of people and a totally opposite thing to another group of people? Are we so naïve that we cannot tell when a politician changes his beliefs simply in order to garner votes?

Come on folks, let's get real: do you really expect John McCain to abandon his efforts to grant amnesty to illegal aliens? Do you really expect Mitt Romney to be a champion for the unborn? Do you really expect Mike Huckabee to suddenly be the champion for limited government spending? Do you really expect Rudy Giuliani to keep his pants zipped?

Have the American people become so numbed to truth and reality that we cannot distinguish the genuine from the phony--even when it stands right in front of us? Perhaps so. However, if the American people had any of the character and resolve of our forebears, we would be steaming mad about what our political and business leaders have done to our country.

Yes, we should be angry at the way our government has repeatedly lied to us about the economy, about sending our jobs and manufacturing industries overseas, about Iraq, and about EVERYTHING! Yes, dear friends, they lie to us about everything. It has gotten to the point that, frankly, I believe NOTHING the government tells us. They have proven themselves to be totally disingenuous and downright duplicitous. And, frankly, I'm angry about it.

In addition, I can even understand whatever anger and exasperation Ron Paul's supporters feel regarding my fellow evangelical believers. Today's Christians--and especially our pastors--have become little more than toadies for the establishment elite. They apparently have never read our U.S. Constitution, Declaration of Independence, or Bill of Rights. They are seemingly oblivious to our great American history and heritage. They seem to lack the most elementary understanding of even the most basic American principles.

For example, it makes absolutely no sense that Christian pastors would embrace the sudden pro-life candidacy of Mitt Romney and reject the proven, twenty-year pro-life record of Ron Paul. It makes no sense that evangelical Christians would embrace the pro-illegal amnesty, pro-McCain/Feingold, pro-No-Child-Left-Behind, pro-gun control John McCain and reject the proven, twenty-year no-amnesty, pro-freedom, anti-No-Child-Left-Behind, pro-Second Amendment record of Ron Paul. It makes absolutely no sense that Christians would fall for Mr. Big Government himself, Mike Huckabee, and reject the champion of limited government, Ron Paul.

Beyond that, how is it that pastors and evangelicals cannot see through the GOP's complicity in helping to establish a Luciferian New World Order? How can they be so blind and dumb regarding the global machinations of the Council on Foreign Relations? How can they not understand and reject the philosophy emanating from the Trilateral Commission and Bilderburgers?

Ask the average pastor and Christian about the CFR, the Trilateralists, or the Bilderburgers and they just stare into space. They are absolutely clueless. Ask them about the burgeoning NAFTA superhighway, North American Union, or Amero and they look stupefied. Again, they are absolutely clueless. And, yes, I am angry about it. I am saddened and angered at the lack of knowledge, perception, and discernment demonstrated by my Christian brethren.

I believe with all my heart that if the pastors and Christian people of America would come off their high horse and start supporting the principles of liberty, the U.S. Constitution, and limited government, not only would there be a rebirth of freedom in America, there would be a spiritual revival as well.

As it is, freedom-loving people cannot see past the ignorance, elitism, and partisan phoniness of modern Christians in order that they might see Christ. The Scripture plainly says, "Where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty." (II Corinthians 3:17)

When America's Colonial preachers and Christian people fought for liberty and independence, God gave us two Great Awakenings. I believe another Great Revival would come to America, if our Christians and pastors would stand on their hind legs and once again fight for liberty and independence. And, yes, I am also angry that they will not do that either.


Posted by: 04SCTLS

Quote:
Originally Posted by fossten View Post
WHY ARE RON PAUL'S SUPPORTERS SO ANGRY?
Yes, we should be angry at the way our government has repeatedly lied to us about the economy, about sending our jobs and manufacturing industries overseas, about Iraq, and about EVERYTHING! Yes, dear friends, they lie to us about everything. It has gotten to the point that, frankly, I believe NOTHING the government tells us. They have proven themselves to be totally disingenuous and downright duplicitous. And, frankly, I'm angry about it.

In addition, I can even understand whatever anger and exasperation Ron Paul's supporters feel regarding my fellow evangelical believers. Today's Christians--and especially our pastors--have become little more than toadies for the establishment elite. They apparently have never read our U.S. Constitution, Declaration of Independence, or Bill of Rights. They are seemingly oblivious to our great American history and heritage. They seem to lack the most elementary understanding of even the most basic American principles.

For example, it makes absolutely no sense that Christian pastors would embrace the sudden pro-life candidacy of Mitt Romney and reject the proven, twenty-year pro-life record of Ron Paul. It makes no sense that evangelical Christians would embrace the pro-illegal amnesty, pro-McCain/Feingold, pro-No-Child-Left-Behind, pro-gun control John McCain and reject the proven, twenty-year no-amnesty, pro-freedom, anti-No-Child-Left-Behind, pro-Second Amendment record of Ron Paul. It makes absolutely no sense that Christians would fall for Mr. Big Government himself, Mike Huckabee, and reject the champion of limited government, Ron Paul.

Beyond that, how is it that pastors and evangelicals cannot see through the GOP's complicity in helping to establish a Luciferian New World Order? How can they be so blind and dumb regarding the global machinations of the Council on Foreign Relations? How can they not understand and reject the philosophy emanating from the Trilateral Commission and Bilderburgers?

Ask the average pastor and Christian about the CFR, the Trilateralists, or the Bilderburgers and they just stare into space. They are absolutely clueless. Ask them about the burgeoning NAFTA superhighway, North American Union, or Amero and they look stupefied. Again, they are absolutely clueless. And, yes, I am angry about it. I am saddened and angered at the lack of knowledge, perception, and discernment demonstrated by my Christian brethren.
I remember you ridiculing my contentions of Pax Americana and sternly stating that it had been proven
conclusively that Bush/Cheney had not lied about Iraq
but here you are quoting someone with similar opinions.
Somehow then you couldn't bring yourself to agree with me but many of your posts and Paul's positions share my conclusions.

The other thing I get from this is that the writer describes Christians as mostly stupid disinterested easily led people who are too lazy to think for themselves and ask hard questions.
Pastors tend to flocks of sheep and I always wondered why Christian clergymen choose to use this name for themselves. Perhaps they believe the people who listen to them really are sheep and are just being honest and candid, cleverly showing what they think of them.

The Republican party is a private organization and doesn't have to give Paul the time of day if they don't want to.
They have their own vested interests which are not the interests of the american people as a whole.This is just a fact of the hypocracy inherent in politics which idealists fail
to understand until they get older and more cynical.
Paul is perfectly free to run as an independant candidate if he feels slighted and marginalized by the establishment.

He is complicit in his marginalization by not finding other venues to use his campaign contribution money to get his message out such as billboards, magazine ads, getting youtube youths excited and other more inventive tactics.
Madonna was a master of free publicity.
If Paul showed a burning flag with a hearfelt voiceover while military contractor fatcats in the background are hoarding bags of money while stepping over the graves of dead soldiers it would be outrageous enough to get the attention of the media who would eat it up dissing Paul as shameless and insulting while secretly savouring reporting it over and over.
The general asleep public would notice too.
From there he could get a lot more of his message across.
He wants to lead a revolution from the status quo and that may be his best route to be heard.
I read that Ralph Nader is mulling running again (which I suppose would be a bonus for the Republicans coming off the turdish Bush presidency) so maybe they could run together as a ticket and attract some real publicity.


Posted by: fossten

I don't think Bush lied about Iraq. That said, I do think the government lies to us about many things, maybe most things. We do have evidence that shows that, for example, there already is a cure for cancer, but the government has made it illegal to prescribe it since the 60s due to the supposed toxic effects. Like chemotherapy isn't toxic. My father in law died from cancer only because the chemo didn't kill him first.

We also know that there is no proof that the HIV virus exists, yet the government sanctions production and distribution of highly toxic drugs like AZT, which kills people, while at the same time making owning weed a jailable offense.


Posted by: Jayce 1971

http://youtube.com/watch?v=-6rwROlGIBU

Off topic (but interesting)links:
http://www.jonesreport.com/article/0...id_rp_win.html
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PKQEQ7qHvgM


Posted by: fossten

Wow Glenn Beck admits to being a conspiracy theorist while interviewing Ron Paul. And he practically begged Paul to run 3rd party if it's McCain vs. Hillary.

"I think you're the closest thing we have to a founding father."

Won't that bust a hole in the bubbles of many of the neocons on this forum!

Thanks for the link, Jayce.




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