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HID upgrade, took 5 minutes....

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Posted by: unity

Hello all.

So, as mentioned in another thread, I and another had picked up those $88 HID kits off of eBay. The shipping was like $38. Either way, total = $88 which I can afford to throw away.

Well the seller has good feedback for a reason. I put this in my halogen housings. 6000k color temp/9005 base. Very easy to hook up and setup.

Problems: The o-ring used is rather large, so I took the o-ring off the Sylvanias I had in and put it on the HID base. The color temp is bluer than I wanted. If I ever get a set again I will go for the 4300k. I wanted a little blue and while there is not much I think the 4300 will look best. I am not looking for the "pimp my ride" look, I wanted something that looked OEM.

Visibility is INSANE. My housings are rather new but the stock 9005s suck, even the Silver Stars I put in. Now its like I have REAL headlights.

I am very happy, and if they go to crap so be it. I will still be hunting for original HID setup though.

Posted by: jamie97lsc

how about some pics????

Posted by: unity

Damn, I knew someone would ask!

I will take some Sunday night. Since the swap is so easy I will even put a halogen back in on one side for comparison.

Posted by: Stevie g

i second on pics, my low beams are so bad i can't tell a difference between on and off at night

Posted by: unity

I hear ya. And like I said, mine are relatively new and I still hated them. Even when they WERE new they were not that great.

But FYI, if your housing are old and yellow with burned out reflectors, these will not help much if at all.

Posted by: Moes8

i second the 4300k is best for oem look. some manufacturers of cheaper hids dont sell 4300,so go with there 5000k,they are very very close

Posted by: Markviiiedrea

do you have halogen housings or 96 LSC houseings?

Posted by: Moes8

if you are looking for even more light with HIDs,search ebay for "50w" (watt) hid kits,
normal kits are 35watts

Posted by: mafioso

I would not suggest a 55W from Ebay.

I can go in this rant all day long and even throw some equations for you as to Ebay HID's suck.

Unity what kind of retro fit harness did you install? from ballast to stock harness and repeated to both sides?

Posted by: Moes8

not saying they are the best, but i have a cheapo set from ebay for over 2 years now.basic 9005 kit and it the best
$100 i spent on this car yet.

got a 50w set for wifes car ,and wow,even better light,when my 35w goes i will get 50w

the whole set is cheaper than one single bulb for factory.

Posted by: unity

Quote:

Originally Posted by mafioso

I would not suggest a 55W from Ebay.

I can go in this rant all day long and even throw some equations for you as to Ebay HID's suck.

Unity what kind of retro fit harness did you install? from ballast to stock harness and repeated to both sides?

I did not "install" a retrofit harness. All one does is plug in the low beam plug into the ballast and the HID lamp into the ballast. I could take the kit out just as fast.

Posted by: Stevie g

pics?

Posted by: hellvez

I just installed a $69 6000k 9005 hid kit I got locally and gave the headlights a quick polish with toothpaste and it's works great, driving home tonight I did not have to turn on the highbeams like I used to.

anybody with a gen 1 should pick up a set just to try them out. it made me like my car again

I would post what brand the kit was but there was no company name on the box I will post some pics later.

Posted by: mafioso

Quote:

Originally Posted by unity

I did not "install" a retrofit harness. All one does is plug in the low beam plug into the ballast and the HID lamp into the ballast. I could take the kit out just as fast.

These are the ones I fear and tell all of my customers never to buy.
Our headlight circuits cannot take the current of haveing a ballast pluged directly into them. The harness mehod is better, you draw the main power from the battery and not the headlamp circuit. Sure they take an extra 10 minutes to install but to me 10 mins isnt worth having my car toast to the ground,

Posted by: unity

Quote:

Originally Posted by mafioso

Some info to backup would be nice. First I heard of a HID kit in a Mark "toasting it to the ground".

The stock halogens will draw more amps, well about 1 more, than HID post-ignition all the time. The only concern is startup at about 15 amps (though I have not tested this kit specifically) for ignition, but that goes down within seconds. The voltage being supplied is what the alt can put out, no more.

Keep in mind the 96 Marks were designed to have HIDs on the LSC. As far as I know there is no different part number for the headlight switch. Is there? If not then its designed to handle the initial ignition amp draw.

Posted by: Russo

how is the glare? HID bulbs + halogen housings usually produce some very annoying glare.

Posted by: unity

Well if I would bloody remember my camera, I would have pics by now! grrrrr..

I dont notice any glare and have not bee flashed by oncoming traffic.

Posted by: mafioso

Hid are glare monsters if the housing are not re-aimed, for the unfocused light.

an 18 awg wire is not able to carry a 20Amp current even for a few seconds, you are damaging the wires. The kits I carry use 15 Amps to start, but I wont do an install directly to the headlamp harness. If you like I can snap some pics for you.

The way the harness works it, you have one cable for ground, one cable for the positive. which goto a relay, then a socket that allows the plug in for the stock headlamp which is a "signal" wire telling the relay to close the circuit and fire the igniters and start the ballasts. One my Harnesses I feature 3x20 amp fuses. one for the positive coming from the battery and the other 2 fuses goto each ballast/igniter assembly.

If you have any questions feel free to gimme a call. Im bored and and dont mind having someone to talk to while Im in the hospital.

Lou 214-215-9604

BTW Im running 55Watt 9005 with a machined cut off so I dont blind on coming traffic, and oh my these are bright.

Posted by: unity

I know the relays can help halogens A LOT.

I also noticed with a Mark that manually turning on the lights gives more output. However, with the HIDs there is no change in brightness when switching between automatic and manual control. I am sure the ballast is acting like a typical buck booster.

I see where you are coming from now and I had planned on doing a relay anyway - pre HID. So I am sure I will get one, but the 15 or so AMP draw is only for a few seconds, not enough time for the wires to heat up really. And like I mentioned before, the 96 was designed to have HID as an option.

I would really be interested if someone, like Max, had some info on how the base and LSC were wired - same or not. Also the switch, same part number? I shall have to look. I will also have to make a relay setup.

Posted by: Stevie g

lets see a pic lol

Posted by: unity

Then come take some. I own a business and have been EXTREMELY busy, taking pics of HIDs that everyone has seen is NOT a priority of mine.

Posted by: stuntin_LS

since he's slow heres my ebay HID kit... cept mine ran me 150 dollas they run at 35w and are 8000k, love em!

Posted by: hellvez

here is a quick pic to show the color of 6000k

Posted by: Stevie g

Quote:

Originally Posted by unity

Then come take some. I own a business and have been EXTREMELY busy, taking pics of HIDs that everyone has seen is NOT a priority of mine.

Sorry i just thought u said earlier in the thread u were going to take some. must be a soso business that you run if you don't stick to your word

lol i know its an internet forum i'm just busting your balls

hellvez is that your mark?

Posted by: mmtphoto

Unity, you say that if you turn on lights (halogen) manually rather than with autolights, they are brighter? I just did the driving lights behind the grill, but that's interesting? Why is that? Is it a significant difference?

Posted by: unity

Quote:

Originally Posted by mmtphoto

Unity, you say that if you turn on lights (halogen) manually rather than with autolights, they are brighter? I just did the driving lights behind the grill, but that's interesting? Why is that? Is it a significant difference?

I dunno. Others have reported the same, not certain if its for a range of years or all Marks. Just turn your autolights on, then once on turn them to manual, you should see a bump in brightness.

Posted by: 93zzzt

tried that and didn't notice any difference in my 93. pulled the driving light fuse so they didnt disturb and still didn't get any difference.

just got "new" housings from jamie, WOW...

i'll post some pics.

lou, why you in the hospital again?

Posted by: turborich

The HID kits in the factory hallogen housings are just fine! There shouldn't be any glare since the anti glare thingy is still in his headlight housings. If there was glare who really cares? At least you can see better! I see imports with the HID kits all the time. They do not bother me while driving. I am switching to the aftermarket HID's & I am going to use my new hallogen housings as well.

Posted by: unity

Like I said before, I notice no glare for me and still no one has flashed me. I drive home about 10pm every night, so I am getting almost daily use out of them. I still want to look into the amperage issues.

Posted by: mafioso

I went back in because the MS is active, and I have a lession developing on my temperal lobe and the frontal lobe.

so Im on a high dose of steroids (1000mg) daily. and about to start Chemo.

Posted by: turborich

We will see just how good these HID's are since I just purchased a set of the 6000K color. I can't wait to get them.

I was debating between the 6000K & the 8000K. I hope I made the right choice with the 6000K. We will see sometime next week.

Posted by: unity

Quote:

Originally Posted by turborich

We will see just how good these HID's are since I just purchased a set of the 6000K color. I can't wait to get them.

I was debating between the 6000K & the 8000K. I hope I made the right choice with the 6000K. We will see sometime next week.

I like my 6k, but like I said the 43k may look more factory. These have a bit of blue.

There is one connector you have to "make". Al you do is slide in two wires, this then connects to the factory harness. Make sure you get that polarity right!

But of you want, you can not even use that extra harness and connect the factory connector right to the ballast if you can mount the ballast close enough. I plan to do so this summer.

Posted by: 93zzzt

you guys are just putting them in the high side? if you put them in the low side do you have to remove the "deflector" crap from teh low side housing?

Posted by: Moes8

Quote:

Originally Posted by turborich

if you bought them for better light you made the right choice with 6k or less
8k will look blue purple and do not light the road quite as good

i have 5k and would probably not go higher,only lower,
on that note some brands 6k is like others 5k,if the brand doesnt offer 4300 or 5000 then the 6000 are the way to go

one last thing about the hids

if you do not want the hid look(color),but want a big boost in light output compared to halogens,get a set of 3k hids,that is the most light output in lumens available,
i know most of us want the modern look of HIDS though

Posted by: unity

Quote:

Originally Posted by 93zzzt

you guys are just putting them in the high side? if you put them in the low side do you have to remove the "deflector" crap from teh low side housing?

Nope. Low beam, no need to take anything out.

Posted by: Dawkins

http://cgi.ebay.ca/HID-CONVERSION-KI...QQcmdZViewItem

Anyone Own these???...

Posted by: mafioso

If anyone needs or wants to try a xenon conversion, PM me I can help.

I need to get in touch with the mods here for advertising rates.

Posted by: unity

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dawkins

http://cgi.ebay.ca/HID-CONVERSION-KI...QQcmdZViewItem

Anyone Own these???...

No, thats some new rookie. Here are the ones I bought, notice the feedback difference:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/HID-CONVERSION-KIT-LINCOLN-CONTINENTAL-LS-MARK-VII-VIII_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ36476QQihZ017QQite mZ270205021996QQtcZphoto

Posted by: bryanswens

I assume this kit is only for hight beams but what do you do for low beams

Posted by: unity

Quote:

Originally Posted by bryanswens

I assume this kit is only for hight beams but what do you do for low beams

Why would we use it for high-beams? That could be dangerous - warn-up time.

Posted by: MrkBaker

Quote:

Originally Posted by unity

rookie? been on ebay since 2001, your seller since 2004-yours has 100% on what, 2700 fb, the other is 99.3 at 1500, not much of a difference imo-all i see is a difference in price, and the 'rookie' might be in canada,

higher shipping charge, everything takes forever from canada too

Posted by: unity

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrkBaker

higher shipping charge, everything takes forever from canada too

Yes, that person IS a rookie. First, they have SIX negative feedbacks in 12 months! Thats horrible, no matter how much you sell!

"MY" seller, the one I used, has only ONE negative feedback in 12 months!

In 12 months, "MY" seller has 2251 POSITIVE feedbacks. "ROOKIE" has ONLY 972.

So:

Japanimports: 2251:1 ratio of satisfied to negative customers that left feedback
intensehid: 162:1 ratio of satisfied to negative customer left feedback

Looks link intensehid has some things to learn = rookie indeed

The "join date" means nothing.

Posted by: MrkBaker

rook·ie (rk)
n.
1. Slang
a. An untrained or inexperienced recruit, as in the army or police.
b. An inexperienced person; a novice.
2. Sports A first-year player, especially in a professional sport.

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man, read up on your posts here-you get BENT when anyone has a different take than you-are you an only child? Didn't realize this was YOUR forum., sorry. Must be working too hard, so I won't ask for photos.

and all your proof-reading of other's who post here makes you cranky, I guess.
Have a nice day.

Posted by: unity

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrkBaker

rook·ie (rk)
n.
1. Slang
a. An untrained or inexperienced recruit, as in the army or police.
b. An inexperienced person; a novice.
2. Sports A first-year player, especially in a professional sport.

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man, read up on your posts here-you get BENT when anyone has a different take than you-are you an only child? Didn't realize this was YOUR forum., sorry. Must be working too hard, so I won't ask for photos.

and all your proof-reading of other's who post here makes you cranky, I guess.
Have a nice day.

Its people like you who make me feel better about myself. Thank you. Definition "b" works to describe the "intensehid" seller.

And I did not "get BENT", you did when you "claimed" the feedback between the two was a wash.

I can only assume, and I will, that since you only have two posts and they are in THIS thread, you must be that seller?

Posted by: Moes8

Quote:

Originally Posted by unity

Posted by: mafioso

wow this really got off track.

Posted by: MrkBaker

Quote:

Originally Posted by unity

Its people like you who make me feel better about myself.

Glad you can feel better about yourself skippy, being an only child who throws tantrums when anyone disagrees with you, you probably need that.

And I did not "get BENT", you did when you "claimed" the feedback between the two was a wash..

Didn't 'claim' that, If you know anything about ebay you know that a seller that had either rating is considered a dependable seller-not a 'rookie'. Look at your posts, you get 'bent' alot, you are opinionated to the point that you are annoying-I'll leave it your to your sense of fairness (that'll be good), read what you write, not just the 'rookie' comment, look at the body of work (1220 posts-you do have a life, don't you?) that is yours on this forum-being knowledgable about a subject is one thing, but labeling this seller a 'rookie' is just wrong, and if you can't admit that, you prove my point.

I can only assume, and I will, that since you only have two posts and they are in THIS thread, you must be that seller?

You 'assume' because you are the first half of that word-and your intuitive powers are lacking, I did originally say that it must be a Canadian buyer and pointed out the the shipping price was higher-gee, I guess the 'seller' would point that out. I'm sure, in real life, you are a very nice person, just superior and condesending when you touch a keyboard. Grow up.

Posted by: unity

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrkBaker

I really have no clue what your problem is. Although I am rather amused by your out lashes!

First, I am not an only child. Not sure where you got the info from that I was, but your source was not factual. In fact I have two brothers.

As for eBay, well I happen to know a lot about it. The feedback system is there to protect buyers by making them more comfortable with the seller. Or in the case of "intensehid", less comfortable. All I pointed was that based on 1 year of feedback the ratio of satisfied to non-satisfied was HUGE between the two, thats all. Simple third-grade math.

As for my posts, yes I do have a life. I own my own business and do a lot of automotive work as a hobby. I help restore vintage Studebakers and replaced my engine in my car with one out of a 2004 Aviator. That alone attribute to many of my posts. I am very educated on the Mark VIII and, unlike you, like to help others with problems. I am sure a great many can vouch for that as I have needed their help too!

And I am sure, in real life, you are .... well, I wont use such words here. I guess you are upset about a few lost sales?

Now can we please get back on topic, whatever it was...

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