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So do I have to adapt anything else? And does this just plug and light. No wires to cut or splice?
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probably a noob question, but what the hell. I AM a noob to this.
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I cant find it on the website, so is this the only kit hes selling at this offer?
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Thanks for filling us in on it man, that is a great deal. I cant wait to get mine in!
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What color temps are available? and h11 & 9006 are both available?
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Does anyone know where we can find out if its illegal or not to run these in our state?
Also, couple questions: should you run these where your high beams are or low beams? and what range is the "white" kind? Thanks guys!! |
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What's your state? I'm quite sure it is always illegal to retrofit HID, but it may vary by state. Definitely run them in lows, that's what you use 99% of the time. As for "white" kind, any HID color temp from 4,300k up to roughly 8,000k will be white, with the higher kelvin ratings having a bluish tinge. I recommend 4,300k since it offers a very crisp white and also has the highest lument output (the most light on the road). 4,300k is what all oem HID setups use. If you are more concerned with impressing other people, go with a higher kelvin rating.
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Im not so much concerned with impressing other people. I'm just concerned with not getting a ticket. what have other people's experiences been with this? I don't even like the blue ones, so i'd prolly go with the whites. Have any of you with HID's gotten pulled over? I don't want to spend $125 on some lights I'll get a $100 ticket for. BTW I'm in Michigan.
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From what I hear its legal in the US period, but its not in Europe.
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Again, quite sure retrofits are illegal. The following is from www.danielsternlighting.com Daniel is a consultant for automotive lighting solutions.
"What about the law, what does it have to say on the matter? In virtually every first-world country, HID "retrofits" into halogen headlamps are illegal. They're illegal clear across Europe and in all of the many countries that use European ECE headlight regulations. They're illegal in the US and Canada. Some people dismiss this because North American regulations, in particular, are written in such a manner as to reject a great many genuinely good headlamps. Nevertheless, on the particular count of HID "retrofits" into halogen headlamps, the world's regulators and engineers agree: DON'T! The only safe and legitimate HID retrofit is one that replaces the entire headlamp—that is lens, reflector, bulb...the WHOLE shemozzle—with optics designed for HID usage. In the aftermarket, it is possible to get clever with the growing number of available products, such as Hella's modular projectors available in HID or halogen, and fabricate your own brackets and bezels, or to modify an original-equipment halogen headlamp housing to contain optical "guts" designed for HID usage. But just putting an HID bulb where a halogen one belongs is bad news all around." |
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If you can find a cop and a judge that can tell you if your headlights are oem or not. Some LSs come with HIDS, who are they to say ours isnt one of them. Same with angel eyes, just like bmw.
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Again, quite sure retrofits are illegal. The following is from www.danielsternlighting.com Daniel is a consultant for automotive lighting solutions.
"What about the law, what does it have to say on the matter? In virtually every first-world country, HID "retrofits" into halogen headlamps are illegal. They're illegal clear across Europe and in all of the many countries that use European ECE headlight regulations. They're illegal in the US and Canada. Some people dismiss this because North American regulations, in particular, are written in such a manner as to reject a great many genuinely good headlamps. Nevertheless, on the particular count of HID "retrofits" into halogen headlamps, the world's regulators and engineers agree: DON'T! The only safe and legitimate HID retrofit is one that replaces the entire headlamp—that is lens, reflector, bulb...the WHOLE shemozzle—with optics designed for HID usage. In the aftermarket, it is possible to get clever with the growing number of available products, such as Hella's modular projectors available in HID or halogen, and fabricate your own brackets and bezels, or to modify an original-equipment halogen headlamp housing to contain optical "guts" designed for HID usage. But just putting an HID bulb where a halogen one belongs is bad news all around." |
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You do know you could have found set of bulbs in the desired Kelvins at a cheaper price than buying 2 sets?
Yeah I do, but Im keeping whichever I like better and then will re-sale the kit as they r selling em so cheap. The fog lights are cheap just about everywhere I need to upgrade mine to the 03 style and i find LSK to be a good price. Just about as good as anywhere else unless you are buying scratched up used ones. |
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Just a bit of modding, they show you how on the site. Look at the site and you will notice the cleaner nicer updated look.
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Just got the HID's in today. 2 days from CA to IL. Very fast shipping. Will post pics this weekend. These ballasts are very small. Quality looks very good on these.
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Hey Sport,, emailed Matt today to get right size and 5000k, so will be ordering today, $125 shipped,,lol great deal.
But whats the difference besides size on regular sized Ballast and these "very small" ballasts? |
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Here is what I read on the digital ballasts:
Electronic ballasts are not the same as Digital Ballasts. Both ballasts share similar components but the electronic ballast does not have a brain. The electronic ballasts regulate output voltage and current based upon fixed parameters, where the digital ballasts have a microprocessor that controls the output to the bulb. The Digital ballast also communicates with the bulbs and report thier health, a feature the electronic ballasts wish they had. So what difference does a microprocessor make? It makes a fair amount of difference. Digital ballasts won't attempt to light a bulb if it senses a failure. Digital ballasts are continually monitoring and checking the input and output voltage and current to maximize bulb life, color and illumination (brightness). I hope this clears up the difference between Digital Ballasts and Electronic ballasts. Digital Ballasts are electronic ballasts on steroids. And the difference can be seen! These ballasts can also be mounted in very tight spaces which you will appreciate on the LS engine bay. |
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Thanks sport,, so these HID's are the Digital or the Elec ones?
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is it really plug and play? as easy as hooking up a subwoofer and amp?
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So has everyone that ordered got their HID yet? They look like the ones on ebay for $100 what is the difference with all respect? I have had a few sets of HIDs the expensive ones and they would always not function correctly on the LS. They would some times stay on or would not come on at all. Any one have pics of succesful install and pics of the way these slim HIds look?
02V8Sport if i do order these HIds do I email the guy and tell him that I want the 9006 6000k or do I just send the payment and thats asumed already? |
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So has everyone that ordered got their HID yet? They look like the ones on ebay for $100 what is the difference with all respect? I have had a few sets of HIDs the expensive ones and they would always not function correctly on the LS. They would some times stay on or would not come on at all. Any one have pics of succesful install and pics of the way these slim HIds look?
02V8Sport if i do order these HIds do I email the guy and tell him that I want the 9006 6000k or do I just send the payment and thats asumed already? |
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but the ballast plug that goes to the car's original plug doesnt fit correctly, I mean it wont go all the way in it should. And... they wont work.
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Uhm... I think something is wrong... maybe its me
but the ballast plug that goes to the car's original plug doesnt fit correctly, I mean it wont go all the way in it should. And... they wont work.So what did I do wrong assuming this kits are trust worth... I conected the car's plug I took off the halogen bulb, I coneected the two small plugs that conects the ballast to the bulb. Dont work, I tried the small plugs the other way arround, dont work. Uhm... help! |

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I pushed em in as hard as I could but didnt work out. Mine is a 2000 V6. I tried just one not both, will that affect somehow?
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Check the relay. I dont know where its at on the V6 but look for a diagram or ask around. If you have one standard bulb out the others work but i dont know about the harness its self and HID' bulbs in general.
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The two small pins go into your stock headlight harness, it is polarity sensitive. You need to match the black with black and color with color, the rest of it should all plug together ballast to bulb with the harnesses on the ballast and bulb. Seems like you are trying to hook the ballast harness to the car harness, it wont work that way.
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Ok I bought 3 kits. 2 for low beams, and 1 for the fogs. In the package are, 6 ballast (all exactly the same) 6 bulbs, and 2 wires wit a plug in one side and 2 pins in the other, I thought these are for the fogs as I receive just 2. What I did was, I conected the red plug of the ballast to the car's plug that was conected to the halogen bulb, then I conected the 2 small plugs of the ballast to the bulb's one. I notice the red plug and the car's plug doesnt conect properly, they fit but they wont lock, so I have no idea what went wrong
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I stated earlier that you are hooking this all up wrong. The harnesses on the ballasts and bulbs do not plug into the car harness. All the harnesses on the kit plug into each other, not the car at all. The only part that goes to the car are the 2 small exposed metal pins. These go into the positive and negative sides of the vehicle harness.
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I think I got it, but... shouldnt I have 3 pairs of those exposed metal pins as I bought 3 kits?
Ok, now I have 2 pairs, so I conect them into the car harness plug (where the halogen bulb was) and then I conect the plug to the ballast erd plug, right? and of course the ballast to the bulbs. Am I right? Thanks for the support though! |
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The two small pins go into your stock headlight harness, it is polarity sensitive. You need to match the black with black and color with color, the rest of it should all plug together ballast to bulb with the harnesses on the ballast and bulb. Seems like you are trying to hook the ballast harness to the car harness, it wont work that way.
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Yeah seem like I got it! but then something is missing. Cause I just got 4 cables ending up in those spade terminals or w/e, enough to hook up 2 ballasts, not 6! so I guess Ima call Tom or Matt tomorrow and ask em to ship the rest of the cables! and the receipt! cause I guess without it I wont have any warranty.
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OK i called and ordered the kit on 10-11-07 and paid 35$$ for next day shipping and today is the 14 and still no lights. When i contacted the company they said it may be that i am not within one day away??????????? thats B/S cause they have the service for next day. I am begining to think this company is a joke so buyer beware.
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This company is no joke. Do your research pall. This where allot of the HID and Angel eye kits end up coming from!
Next day shipping means they get processed and shipped right away but it still may take day or so more depending on where you are at to get them to you. Since when did anything come in the mail or anything like that on Sunday? I guarantee they will be there tomarrow, they would be there by today but nothing happens on a Sunday! Oh and if you put the order in late in the day, that may have something to do with it also. |
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No its not that hard, they are pretty much universal and Umnitza deals with allot BMW stuff anyways to begin with, not so much Lincoln! I see allot of people getting the first set they ever owned and coming up with this paranoia that they don't work cause they don't understand the product.
Mine are killer and soon as I find a lower Kelvin bulb somewhere cheap to match the yellow fogs I have now Im getting a set to replace those. |
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I think I counted 5...lol!
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they r in my gallery, check if u can see em n let me know cause I dont know how the heck to post em here
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these HID kits are very easy to install. It took my 30 minutes to do both sides and my HID ballasts are broken in and light up every time I turn the headlight on. VERY well worth the money. Its the same install for both Gen1 and Gen2.
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Dude, take at look at the pics in my gallery and please! tell me if something is missing!
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I see where your confusion is at. You have a harness on the wires where the blue/black wires are. Thats where I see he sent you harness plugs that turn into spade plugs. the spade plugs are the ones that go to your factory harness.
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another look at your photo garage, your spade plugs look too big for the stock wiring harness, put new connectors on or cut them down with wire cutters.
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02v8, do you have nay pics of the location where you put the ballast yet?
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I used the big tie straps at Home Depot and strapped the ballasts to the top radiator support right above the head lamps.
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so has the jury come out on this product? does it work? any mods to the harness or plug and play? need to know that way i can get kit for the meet in malibu
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I'm sorry but I have to hijack the thread for a sec.
02V8Sport I swear you have one of if not the nicest LSs around. Your car is SO damn clean. ![]() |
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It just looks like the spade plugs on the kit are too big to fit into the car harness, they will have to be replaced or cut sown with wire cutters to fit. I would just go to AutoZone and buy a 9006 wiring harness and do it right. Cut off the spade plugs and put a new $3 9006 harness on it from the store, then its all plug and play. I bought the H11 kit and it all went in perfectly fine in less than 30 minutes for both sides.
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It just looks like the spade plugs on the kit are too big to fit into the car harness, they will have to be replaced or cut sown with wire cutters to fit. I would just go to AutoZone and buy a 9006 wiring harness and do it right. Cut off the spade plugs and put a new $3 9006 harness on it from the store, then its all plug and play. I bought the H11 kit and it all went in perfectly fine in less than 30 minutes for both sides.
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But the kit is made for a 9006, so why is it not fitting? Why arent they telling u this in the begining?
For a plug n play system you would think these connecting issues shouldnt be happening. |
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It just looks like the spade plugs on the kit are too big to fit into the car harness, they will have to be replaced or cut sown with wire cutters to fit. I would just go to AutoZone and buy a 9006 wiring harness and do it right. Cut off the spade plugs and put a new $3 9006 harness on it from the store, then its all plug and play. I bought the H11 kit and it all went in perfectly fine in less than 30 minutes for both sides.
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Unfortunately a lot of these HID kit manufacturers assume that people that install these have some McGyver skills. I figured it out the second I looked at it, some people have no clue.
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OK i called and ordered the kit on 10-11-07 and paid 35$$ for next day shipping and today is the 14 and still no lights. When i contacted the company they said it may be that i am not within one day away??????????? thats B/S cause they have the service for next day. I am begining to think this company is a joke so buyer beware.
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This company is no joke. Do your research pall. This where allot of the HID and Angel eye kits end up coming from!
Next day shipping means they get processed and shipped right away but it still may take day or so more depending on where you are at to get them to you. Since when did anything come in the mail or anything like that on Sunday? I guarantee they will be there tomarrow, they would be there by today but nothing happens on a Sunday! Oh and if you put the order in late in the day, that may have something to do with it also. |
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these HID kits are very easy to install. It took my 30 minutes to do both sides and my HID ballasts are broken in and light up every time I turn the headlight on. VERY well worth the money. Its the same install for both Gen1 and Gen2.
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JfEdS3UsS, Im gunna put that pic up for you. The one showing the wire and the connector...
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It just looks like the spade plugs on the kit are too big to fit into the car harness, they will have to be replaced or cut sown with wire cutters to fit. I would just go to AutoZone and buy a 9006 wiring harness and do it right. Cut off the spade plugs and put a new $3 9006 harness on it from the store, then its all plug and play. I bought the H11 kit and it all went in perfectly fine in less than 30 minutes for both sides.
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lol I hear you.
If it can be fixed with duct tape Im good,,lol if not than im f*** I emailed Matt about the issue, will post his reply soon as I get it. |

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As I stated to you on email and I'll state it here:
Order Placed on 10/11/07 The USPS Express Mail site shows that their service is 1-2 Day. USPS Priority Mail is a 2-3 day service. Both services are similar if the locations overlap. It’s possible that your location is not a 1 day away location but the cost of shipping overnight is $35 flat rate. It means expedited service from us and the post office. Overnight service via FedEx is definitely more guaranteed but costs $55, and option that is almost 50% of the price of the kit. Label/Receipt Number: EO01 9235 970U S Detailed Results: Processed, October 13, 2007, 9:50 am, COLUMBUS, OH 43218 Processed, October 13, 2007, 8:05 am, COLUMBUS, OH 43236 Electronic Shipping Info Received, October 12, 2007 Acceptance, October 11, 2007, 8:07 pm, OAKLAND, CA 94615 Processed, October 11, 2007, 6:03 pm, OAKLAND, CA 94615 Once again, please note that not only did we get the product out less than 1 hour after you purchased it, it was en route to you not 2 hours later. More than that, I cannot do. You're right but Express mail screwed this one up pretty badly. Certain things we have no control over. Scream at the post office man, that's all we do all day They are easier than 30 minutes. It's 4 minutes to swap bulbs and 5 minutes to mount the ballast and 21 minutes to stand and admire them. Jfeds3usS - you are going about it thinking it's more complicated than it is. The HID ballast has a red plug on it. that plug is the only thing your car's plug will go into. There is no need to use the adapters with spade plugs on the bulb for any 9006 and 9005 applications. <-- red so you can relate the plug from the car to the plug from the ballast. It's direct. |
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As I stated to you on email and I'll state it here:
Order Placed on 10/11/07 The USPS Express Mail site shows that their service is 1-2 Day. USPS Priority Mail is a 2-3 day service. Both services are similar if the locations overlap. It’s possible that your location is not a 1 day away location but the cost of shipping overnight is $35 flat rate. It means expedited service from us and the post office. Overnight service via FedEx is definitely more guaranteed but costs $55, and option that is almost 50% of the price of the kit. Label/Receipt Number: EO01 9235 970U S Detailed Results: Processed, October 13, 2007, 9:50 am, COLUMBUS, OH 43218 Processed, October 13, 2007, 8:05 am, COLUMBUS, OH 43236 Electronic Shipping Info Received, October 12, 2007 Acceptance, October 11, 2007, 8:07 pm, OAKLAND, CA 94615 Processed, October 11, 2007, 6:03 pm, OAKLAND, CA 94615 Once again, please note that not only did we get the product out less than 1 hour after you purchased it, it was en route to you not 2 hours later. More than that, I cannot do. You're right but Express mail screwed this one up pretty badly. Certain things we have no control over. Scream at the post office man, that's all we do all day They are easier than 30 minutes. It's 4 minutes to swap bulbs and 5 minutes to mount the ballast and 21 minutes to stand and admire them. Jfeds3usS - you are going about it thinking it's more complicated than it is. The HID ballast has a red plug on it. that plug is the only thing your car's plug will go into. There is no need to use the adapters with spade plugs on the bulb for any 9006 and 9005 applications. <-- red so you can relate the plug from the car to the plug from the ballast. It's direct. No need. the plug goes into the ballast as shown above. The H11 kit however requires the spades - those spades are narrow/thin and will slide right into the H11 harness plug from the car. I don't usually say this on HID kits, but it might help you to get a professional installer. I've looked over this post and the suggestions and I think you'd be better off having someone that does installations look it over. Tom can walk you through it but he's basically going to do it exactly like what I laid out above. Ok, hopefully this is my last/only post - happy installing ![]() ![]() |
YEAAAAA!!! YEAHHHH baby yeaaahhhh!!!!!
get that u damn plug!
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Dude has anyone with 9006 bulbs installed this kit correctly? I have emaield Matt and I see he has coem on here saying same thing he did to me in am email, buttt if it was as easy as you say than the guy with the problems would have figured it out by now.
I doubt he is a dumbass,, if was as simple as red plug to plug in than this shi** would have been done. You say its plug n play yet not one here with 9006 has plug n played them yet. And ur answer is, your not doing it right, or ur makin it harder than it is, etc... Sport has the H11 bulbs so his help is useless "no offense Sport", its a different setup. SOOO how bout some pics, or diagrams or something showing the "simple" install on a 9006 bulb? That way we can see it and you can show hwo easy it is exaclty. |
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Please note that the customer wasn't sure if he should fit it in correctly. He just didn't press in hard enough. Now that he did that, he's good. It's not hard to do.
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and I thought, what the heck did I do!!! so I did the same with the other one till it went in!
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Even though we do not sell this particular brand of HID system, I don't understand why it is that difficult to install. It is a plug and play system like ALL HID conversion systems out there. The Xetronic systems we sell should not take longer than 45 minutes from beginning to end to install. You can view the simple installation guide here:
http://www.lskoncepts.com/HID%20Conv...ll%20Guide.pdf That install guide should work for any HID conversion kit. |
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OH come on!!! now the pictures I took with the same phone are too big to upload! guys I dont know! cant post em.
The only problem is that the plug that conects to the car's harnes is damn difficult to stick it in. Thats all. |
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Only question I have is when I turn them on sometimes only one will come on. Then I can turn them off and back on and both lights will work. Is this because the ballast need to be broke in?
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