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HID'S for 2001

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Posted by: 2001 LS Owner

i was just wandering if i can get like HID'S for my ls? like do i have to get a new headlight assembly all together, or can i just get some kind of kit? all i want is like that hid crystal blue effect that you see in bmw headlights and in the new 2004 ls headlights? also will the 2004 ls headlights fit in the 2001?

Posted by: Quik LS

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Originally Posted by 2001 LS Owner

i was just wandering if i can get like HID'S for my ls? like do i have to get a new headlight assembly all together, or can i just get some kind of kit? all i want is like that hid crystal blue effect that you see in bmw headlights and in the new 2004 ls headlights? also will the 2004 ls headlights fit in the 2001?

If you want to put the 03+ LS HIDs in your car you have to purchase new headlamp and a new cross-brace - the piece that goes cross the front of the car the the HIDs mount to. $$$$$

Ken - GrayGhost1 - sell HID conversion kit for the 00 - 02 LSes.

Posted by: 2001 LS Owner

is it hard to install a HID conversion kit?, and what are all the parts that i would need to do it?

Posted by: GrayGhost1

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Originally Posted by 2001 LS Owner

is it hard to install a HID conversion kit?, and what are all the parts that i would need to do it?

The hardest part installing the HID conversion kit is find a place to put the ballast and ignitor. Once you do that it's a 15 minute install. Very simple to do. I've got a couple of pics I can post to show you were I put my ballast and ignitor at.

Posted by: GrayGhost1

Here's a couple of pics showing where I put the ballast and ignitor. You can't see the ignitor but it's down next to the frame behind the headlights. Just DO NOT mount the ballast on anything plastic. The ballast will get warm. That's why I mounted on the steel cross member.

Posted by: 2001 LS Owner

thx a lot, i really want to install some HID's on my LS, can u give me a good description of how to install them, and give me a definition of some of the words, like whats the ballast? and whats the ignitor?, if u cant find time or just dont want to dont worry about it then, thx

Posted by: kleetus

Ballast is what steps the voltage from 12 volts up to (I think) about 200 volts, to sustain the arc. Don't forget, these are miniature metal halide "dusk to dawn" type lamps...

The Ignitor is what creates a voltage high enough to throw the initial spark across the bulb, Then the ballast can supply current to sustain the arc, and make light.

I read an article about these lights from the company that actually made the ignitor and ballast setup, it was pretty cool, and I almost assembled one myself, but it's kinda an expensive science project when you don't have anything to stick them in. Now I do... but I don't have the time to mess with it.

Anybody know the actual cost for the conversion other than $$$?

Kleetus

'00 LS V8 Sport

Posted by: SurfjaxLS

GrayGhost, not really on the topic of HIDs, but it looks like your headlights have no chance of leaking or fogging. Sometimes overkill is the best idea.

Posted by: GrayGhost1

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Originally Posted by SurfjaxLS

GrayGhost, not really on the topic of HIDs, but it looks like your headlights have no chance of leaking or fogging. Sometimes overkill is the best idea.

I've never had a problem with fogging or leaking since I installed my own DDE kit. I seal every headlight the same way and that's why I give a warranty with every headlight set I sell.

Also, I'm working with a company that manufactures the headlights for all year LS's. I'll be introducing NEW headlights with NEW angel eye rings early next year. This is exciting because no one has been ever to offer this.

Posted by: SurfjaxLS

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Originally Posted by GrayGhost1

I'll be introducing NEW headlights with NEW angel eye rings early next year. This is exciting because no one has been ever to offer this.

Will it still be CCFL or completely new technology?

Posted by: GrayGhost1

It'll be CCFL for now but the headlights will be new. Right now when you purchase the CCFL headlights from either me or any other person selling them we can only use used headlights. The headlights I use are in prestine condition but they are used. I'm working with a company to provide me with new headlights that I can modify myself. Right now, all new LS headlights have a black glue that holds them together and nothing is getting them apart aside from destroying the assembly. I'll be getting the headlights brand new with no glue attached. This way I can seal it myself and provide a completely new headlight assembly. The competition will be running scared at that point because I'll be able to introduce the Angel Eye kits in the 2003 and up headlights.

Posted by: SurfjaxLS

Sounds good. I have an '00 so the headlights were never a problem for me.

Posted by: ohioLS

what bulbs do i use to match my headlamps to foglamps. I am looking into PIAA bulbs, I understand the replace number is 9145, but doesnt this number cross over? I read somewhere here that Silverstars and APCs are junk. Anyone use PIAA?

-Scott-

Posted by: Quik LS

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Originally Posted by ohioLS

what bulbs do i use to match my headlamps to foglamps. I am looking into PIAA bulbs, I understand the replace number is 9145, but doesnt this number cross over? I read somewhere here that Silverstars and APCs are junk. Anyone use PIAA?

-Scott-

a 9145 has the end of the bulb capped - but a 9005 will fit in the fog lamps.... that's what I run.

I ran Silverstars and they were fine. I have heard APC is junk.

I use these now - http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=7945129805&category=36 476 and love them.

Posted by: NickLS

I'm running siverstars as we speak 9005ST and 9006ST. My car came w/ 9005 from sylvania (not Silverstars though), and transfered them into my fog lamps. I did a before and after test in brightest in my High/Low beams. AMAZING!!! They really are the whitest and brightest (besided HID ofcourse) that I've seen. Bought them at wal-mart at $37.89 for a pack of 2. Can't beat that when it's more than that to buy them direct from sylvania. They've been on my car for about 2 months now. No problems yet, but ofcourse being only 2 months in, can't really tell

Posted by: GrayGhost1

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Originally Posted by ohioLS

I'd recommend HOEN bulbs. You can find them at www.hoen-usa.com. I ran them for quite some time until I installed an HID conversion kit. The fog lights are 9145 or also known as the H10 bulb. You won't be sorry with the HOEN bulbs.

Posted by: ohioLS

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Originally Posted by GrayGhost1

OK I am at their site but I wondering exactlly which low/high beams to buy and foglamps. What style did u purchase? Thanks for your help!

-Scott-

Posted by: GrayGhost1

I got the Xenon match for all the low, high and fogs.

Posted by: ohioLS

Thanks Gray,
I ordered my bulbs last night and I cant wait to install and show them off.

-Scott-

Posted by: GrayGhost1

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Originally Posted by ohioLS

Thanks Gray,
I ordered my bulbs last night and I cant wait to install and show them off.

-Scott-

Scott,

No problem. You won't be sorry with the HOEN bulbs.

Ken

Posted by: hockey930

agter installing these aftermarket hid kits did anyone have a problem with the bulb out light comming on?
Eamonn

Posted by: FBplaya0085

I have a 2005 LS with HID's can i get a different set of bulbs like 6000k's?

Posted by: GrayGhost1

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Originally Posted by FBplaya0085

I have a 2005 LS with HID's can i get a different set of bulbs like 6000k's?

Yes you can. You have the D2S/D2R HID Xenon bulbs. You can get them in 10,000K, 8,000K, 6,000K, or 4,300K(OEM). Of course anything other than OEM is illegal in most areas so check you local laws. I can get the HID Xenon replacement bulbs if you are interested.

Posted by: gt95coupe

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Originally Posted by GrayGhost1

Can you get the entire kit for the D2s/D2r? also how much will the 03 and up headlights be?

Posted by: GrayGhost1

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Originally Posted by gt95coupe

Can you get the entire kit for the D2s/D2r? also how much will the 03 and up headlights be?

For you to use the OEM D2S/D2R bulbs you will have to have the 2003 and HID headlights. They are a self contained unit inside the headlight. You can get the aftermarket HID kit for the non-HID H11 bulb. That kit is $399.

The D2S/D2R bulbs run from $209-$239 a pair for 4300K - 10000K bulbs.

Posted by: 2002 LS V8

How is the light pattern with just putting in the new bulbs + ballast etc? Is there a lot of extra light just thrown around?

Posted by: GrayGhost1

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Originally Posted by 2002 LS V8

How is the light pattern with just putting in the new bulbs + ballast etc? Is there a lot of extra light just thrown around?

Well, there is some glare but that can be controlled by adjusting the headlights accordingly. I had to go through three or four adjustments before I got the pattern that worked for me and it did not blind oncoming cars. I will tell you though the HID's are mucho brighter than halogens. Once you get HID's you'll never return to regular halogen again.

Posted by: Aviatorguy

First you have to decide two things. How much do you want and can spend on upgrading your lights and secondly why do you really want HID's? If you want HID's because they look cool because of the whitish-bluish color they emit then you can get that with just replacing the bulbs. However if you want HID's because you want better lighting at night for safety reasons then DO NOT get anything but the factory HID setup which will include the housing. Believe me, I have spent money on HID conversion kits and while they are just as bright, getting a good adjustments from headlight units that are NOT HID's will leave you disappointed. Because you can not get that correct cutoff point you will have to adjust your non-HID headlamp units in way that will deny you the forward distance advantage that you have with a real HID setup. And yes, like someone said here on this post, when you have HID's the whole package, you will never want to drive a car without them. SO my advice is depending on what you want. save your money and buy the REAL thing. HID conversion kits go for around $300.00 to $400.00. I spent $700.00 on my factory setup which included the true LS HID headlamo units and the cross brace. Search for them on ebay and contact Bill Jenkins at Signature Lincoln-Mercury in Las Vegas. He is leaving there so email him quickly for good prices and service.

Posted by: 00NORCAL V8

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Originally Posted by Aviatorguy

First you have to decide two things. How much do you want and can spend on upgrading your lights and secondly why do you really want HID's? If you want HID's because they look cool because of the whitish-bluish color they emit then you can get that with just replacing the bulbs. However if you want HID's because you want better lighting at night for safety reasons then DO NOT get anything but the factory HID setup which will include the housing. Believe me, I have spent money on HID conversion kits and while they are just as bright, getting a good adjustments from headlight units that are NOT HID's will leave you disappointed. Because you can not get that correct cutoff point you will have to adjust your non-HID headlamp units in way that will deny you the forward distance advantage that you have with a real HID setup. And yes, like someone said here on this post, when you have HID's the whole package, you will never want to drive a car without them. SO my advice is depending on what you want. save your money and buy the REAL thing. HID conversion kits go for around $300.00 to $400.00. I spent $700.00 on my factory setup which included the true LS HID headlamo units and the cross brace. Search for them on ebay and contact Bill Jenkins at Signature Lincoln-Mercury in Las Vegas. He is leaving there so email him quickly for good prices and service.

What year headlights did you order? I see you have a 2000, same here.

Posted by: Aviatorguy

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Originally Posted by 00NORCAL V8

What year headlights did you order? I see you have a 2000, same here.

I have HID headlights from a 2004 LS. However you have to also the cross brace that goes across the whole front end in order for you to be able to install the 2004 HID's. You have to take the bumper cover off to access this cross-brace. I bought the pair of 2004 HID's on ebay for $500 for both units. They run around $500 apiece from the dealer. I also changed my bumper cover to a 2005 LSE bumper cover with the round fog lights. Along with the new headlights it gives my car a clean and agressive look. I also have the LSE body kit from a 2002 LSE. It blends well with the new 05 LSE bumper cover. The HID are a fantastic improvement. Once you have them and drive with them at night you will never want to go back to halogen lights ever.

Posted by: joshluvsla

Ken did you place any plastic on the bottom of your ballast? does it matter if the ballast is touching the metal frame?

Posted by: GrayGhost1

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Originally Posted by joshluvsla

Ken did you place any plastic on the bottom of your ballast? does it matter if the ballast is touching the metal frame?

I mounted the ballast under the support cross member just behind the headlights. It is recommended NOT to mount the ballast on anything plastic.

Posted by: joshluvsla

Ok... that makes some sense.... The left lamp would go off sometimes and wouldnt start. I thought that i Had a bad ballast and or bulb, but the guy who sold them to me brought a relay that went straight to the battery. The only problem was that our battery is in the back. the guy connected it to his battery and sure enough it worked on his..... why is it that some members experience problems with one of the lamps either right or left when the lights ignite? anyone?

Posted by: GrayGhost1

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Originally Posted by joshluvsla

Ok... that makes some sense.... The left lamp would go off sometimes and wouldnt start. I thought that i Had a bad ballast and or bulb, but the guy who sold them to me brought a relay that went straight to the battery. The only problem was that our battery is in the back. the guy connected it to his battery and sure enough it worked on his..... why is it that some members experience problems with one of the lamps either right or left when the lights ignite? anyone?

I'd say it all depends on which kit you buy. Not all HID conversion kits are the same. The Xetronic and Fusion kits we sell don't need a direct power source to the battery. It is plug and play on those systems.