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Posted by: Iszi

Okay, this may sound old to some (or a lot) of you, but for me this is my first time really shopping around for a Mark VIII and knowing what I'm looking at. So, for me it's just a little shocking some of the stuff that I see posted!

Of course, there's always the false "1996 Diamond Anniversary" or "1998 Collector's Edition" ads, or the ones advertising an "LSC" model that is so obviously not. This can be forgiven however, as many people are really just not informed at all about these models of vehicles.

But then there's people like this idiot: http://tinyurl.com/3ajpop

He seems to be trying to present himself as being very well-informed and informative about this car, but to those of us "in the know" he is so not. Listen to these claims:

*headdesk*

I've got half a mind to check out this one and actually buy it if it's in good condition, just to get the poor Mark out of that idiot's hands!



Posted by: MERIJONS97LSC

The only way I can respond to that ad, is to quote the cave man from the cieco commercial.."aaaaaa WHAT!"



Posted by: 02LSE96LSC91SE84TC

Mines super rare too. I guaranty not one has the exact fading paint pattern as mine...I've seen similar, but not exactly.

If I roll down a hill and shut the car off...I use no gas at all, amazing.



Posted by: shiryu0

WOW........and hes got a '97 too..........



Posted by: unity

"31 MPG @ 70.and 1750 RPM; 29 MPG @ 80 MPH and 2000 RPM" - Can anyone verify this for me? I'm sure that's nowhere near what I was getting with my '93.

Sounds about right and what I got before I dropped this 04 power plant in. With my tune now I get about 28/29 at 65-70MPH and about 24-25mpg at 75mph.

"A fully automatic air suspension system that lowers the car body 2" closer to the road over 55 MPH." - Making this "LSC" even more rare, since all the other Mark VIIIs only drop 0.8", and even that's closer to 60 MPH!

If its a 93 computer, thats possible. Also, the air ride computers can be flash programed using Ford software. If I did not see it, I would not have believed it. Once can even program a lower park height and a separate highway height so it slams at park but lowers less on the highway.

"After this there will be no more Marks available. Lincoln will never again produce the power plant and drive train components of the 1994 Marks."

And thank god for that, the new stuff made is MUCH better! LOL I guess its in the wording....

I would NOT buy this Mark.



Posted by: rmac694203

Weren't LSC's not available until 95?



Posted by: unity

All Marks are LCSs. The LSC trim package and options were introduced in 95.

LSC = Luxury Sport Coupe



Posted by: MediumD

Quote:
Originally Posted by Iszi View Post
[*]"31 MPG @ 70.and 1750 RPM; 29 MPG @ 80 MPH and 2000 RPM" - Can anyone verify this for me? I'm sure that's nowhere near what I was getting with my '93.[*]"All ON REGULAR FUEL." - Boy have I got a "knock-knock" joke for you.
I don't pay much attention to RPM and I believe my tach is a bit off anyway. But I can tell you that every week on my 400mi round trip I get 32mpg, not using cruise, averaging 77-78mph. At 85 it's more like 28mpg. I attribute some of this to the fact that my trip ranges from 5100' to 7300' above sea level, less air, so less fuel is used...


Oh, and I knew that joke was coming, because I have a knock sensor.



Posted by: mespock

I love the price for his 130,000 miles rare car... Damn... mine has even more miles... I want $10,000 for it.



Posted by: MsM8tress

lolol- not even going to the tiny url - lol reading LVC's responses is funny enough! lol - someone, make the dude an offer!!!

Smooches
MsM8




Posted by: thaywood

Quote:
Originally Posted by unity View Post
All Marks are LCSs. The LSC trim package and options were introduced in 95.

LSC = Luxury Sport Coupe
All Marks are not LSC's. The LSC was a higher performance version of the Mark VIII. It had a less restrictive almost true dual exhaust system that added 10 horsepower to the stock Mark VIII's 280hp 4.6L DOHC V-8 for a total of 290hp. If I am not mistaken, the LSC also had electronically controlled adjustable shock absorbers that firmed up the ride like in the T-Bird Turbo and Super Coupes to improve handling, and softened the ride on straight line trips. The LSC's also had special LSC badging to distinguish them from lesser Mark's. And on the GEN II versions, the trim was monochromatic on the LSC models and chrome on base Mark VIII's.



Posted by: The Reaper

No adjustable shock absorbers like the Super Coupes.



Posted by: whiplash15

Thats not quite true about adjustable shocks/ride control. In the supercoupes you have a switch for normal or performance ride control. On the 93 and maybe the 94's they also have adjustable orfice rear shocks. They just arent manually adjustable. Totally automatic.



Posted by: Iszi

Quote:
Originally Posted by whiplash15 View Post
Thats not quite true about adjustable shocks/ride control. In the supercoupes you have a switch for normal or performance ride control. On the 93 and maybe the 94's they also have adjustable orfice rear shocks. They just arent manually adjustable. Totally automatic.
All Mark VIIIs (LCSs and not) have the same automatically adjusting air ride system. It drops 0.8" at around 60 MPH, and kicks back up when the car slows down to city speeds again. See this video: http://www.markviii.org/LOD2/beam_ad.htm



Posted by: 93' Blue on blue

Talking of daft people... Once a week i go on cars.com to see if that spring feature car has been sold. It has 70901 miles and used to be priced at 37002 anyway its now gone up to 39002!!! Crazy... lol.



Posted by: thaywood

Quote:
Originally Posted by Iszi View Post
All Mark VIIIs (LCSs and not) have the same automatically adjusting air ride system. It drops 0.8" at around 60 MPH, and kicks back up when the car slows down to city speeds again. See this video: http://www.markviii.org/LOD2/beam_ad.htm
The automatic air ride system is not the same as the electronic shocks. The air ride is the same on all Mark VIII's. It drops .8" above 55mph and raises .8" below 55mph. It also keeps the car level regardless of load. The electronic shocks on the LSC models vary the stiffness of the shock absorbers using an electronic solenoid mounted on top of the shocks that adjusts the shock valving, not the air springs, depending on the way the car is being driven. They are completely computer controlled and not manually adjustible like the T-Birds.



Posted by: The Reaper

Thaywood, respectfully, don't argue, man.

There are NO electronic shocks on the LSC!!!!!!!!! Only Air Ride.

Lord knows I've replaced a few sets or Rear shocks and front air struts on LSC's. Buthumor me a bit. Where in this picture do you see a solenoid?

These pictures are from another member's Gen II.

Edit: And yes, these pictures are from an LSC.



Posted by: thaywood

Well, as it turns out, I may have been mistaken. I will have to wait until I get home, but I could swear that I saw in my 1996 Mark VIII sales brochure something about variable rate shocks. However, the Gen I Mark VIII's did indeed have actuator controlled variable damping REAR shocks. Look here: http://www.markviii.org/psjs_faqs/09299291.shtml
The Gen II versions did not have these shocks.



Posted by: rmac694203

My 96 did not have the adjustable shocks. I just replaced them 6 months or so back. I'm thinking they were only on the earlier models.



Posted by: thaywood

I feel silly for saying this, but I have had my 96 for about five years and I have never actually looked at the rear shocks. But when I get home I am going to give it a look. Mine is not an LSC and I am curious to see if it has the adj. shocks. We'll see.



Posted by: Iszi

Ah, I thought we were talking about the springs, not the shocks. If I recall correctly, I think my '93 base model had some wiring going to the shocks before we ripped them out and put in the SensaTracs.



Posted by: torquemonkey

Quote:
Originally Posted by Iszi View Post
Ah, I thought we were talking about the springs, not the shocks. If I recall correctly, I think my '93 base model had some wiring going to the shocks before we ripped them out and put in the SensaTracs.
As I understand it, Gen I's had variable rate shocks...

http://mark8.org/lod/MarkVIIIFAQ.htm#Susp5





Posted by: Moes8

ONLY 93'S and maybe a few early 94's (notlikely,but maybe) had electronic rear shocks used for anti dive under braking,Ford then devised newer rear shocks with mechanical anti dive technology.

i have a set of 93 rear shocks with the actuators laying around .so i have seen them first hand,my 95 has regular shocks.



Posted by: tri-valleyracin

My 94 has sensors on top of the rear shocks. they are a big solenoid looking thing that clips to the top of the shock. ill get pics tomarrow when i have the car back from the shop were the power steering lines got replaced.



Posted by: mespock

I've got 3 sets of those I should sell on as rare... and make a few Millions...

And from my Lincoln sources all Mark VIIIs are Luxury Sport Coupes and the LSC is a package.

Oh and If you think the LSC is a performance package ... I guess if you really think so... What is it 10 HPs from the true dual exhaust? Different gears but do they really make a difference?

To me the only thing the LSC give you is a little bit more money on a sale or something to list on eBay...



Posted by: thaywood

Quote:
Originally Posted by mespock View Post
I've got 3 sets of those I should sell on as rare... and make a few Millions...

And from my Lincoln sources all Mark VIIIs are Luxury Sport Coupes and the LSC is a package.

Oh and If you think the LSC is a performance package ... I guess if you really think so... What is it 10 HPs from the true dual exhaust? Different gears but do they really make a difference?

To me the only thing the LSC give you is a little bit more money on a sale or something to list on eBay...
Yes, the Mark VIII (as well as the Fox platform Mark VII, and possibly the 1956-57 Continental Mark II, if you want to get nitpicky) is a "luxury sport coupe" in the broad sense of the word. But so is a Cadillac Eldorado, Buick Riviera, Pontiac Grand Prix, and several Mercedes, BMW, Jaguars, etc. The 1994-1998 Lincoln Mark VIII LSC's were different in several respects from the lesser base Mark VIII's. According to my 1996 Lincoln Mark VIII sales brochure, the LSC had many features that the base Mark didn't have. The LSC had ture dual exhaust that added 10hp and 5 ft-lbs of torque for a total of 290hp and 290ft-lbs. Other LSC exclusive features include "Luminarc" HID headlights, 3.27:1 axle ratio, Monochromatic bodyside moldings, euro-perforated leather seating surfaces, sport suspension with unique shocks and bigger sway bars, and directional cast aluminum wheels. According to the brochure, the base 280hp Mark VII for 1996 would do 0-60 in 7.9 seconds while the higher performance LSC would do it in 7.6 seconds. That's 3/10ths of a second quicker. Not a lot, but what do you expect for only 10 more horsepower? The point being that all luxury 2-door performance coupes regardless of their names, are "luxury sport coupes' by definition. The Mark VII and Mark VIII actually had an upgraded version that was actually called an "LSC" and had special badging and special equipment that made it unique.



Posted by: vr4

my LSC doesnt have HID. actually very few 1G LSCs do have them.



Posted by: torquemonkey

All that made a difference to my insurance policy...sheessh!



Posted by: 02LSE96LSC91SE84TC

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Originally Posted by torquemonkey View Post
All that made a difference to my insurance policy...sheessh!
Gen1 LSCs weren't regonizeable by the vin, probably why they all are called LSCs falsely by many, or all considered LSCs...whichever side your on.

Gen2s they did vin different between LSCs and non. If it makes yo feel better according to my insurance co. The rating on the 96 was higher than the LSC 98 I was lookin at, few years ago.

For a picky car enthusist like me calling a non LSC a LSC is wrong. The few things appearance wise set it apart on Gen1s and Gen2s alike. Any Mark owner knows the difference.



Posted by: 02LSE96LSC91SE84TC

Quote:
Originally Posted by vr4 View Post
my LSC doesnt have HID. actually very few 1G LSCs do have them.
I thought they all did but many early ones (late95) were recalled and removed by the factory, replaced by standards.



Posted by: mespock

Quote:
Originally Posted by 02LSE96LSC91SE84TC View Post

For a picky car enthusist like me calling a non LSC a LSC is wrong. The few things appearance wise set it apart on Gen1s and Gen2s alike. Any Mark owner knows the difference.
Oh I agree with you... and LSC is an LSC.... but it's really only a package. But to really call the the LSC a preformance package you don't really get any performance for the package. I've read too many post by long Mark VIII owners who have put Non-LSC up against LSC models and their is not difference.

And 290 I hope that's not RW Torque that thaywood is talking about...

If I had an LSC well that would be cool but I really don't care... The only real gain in the LSC are the HIDs... The gears don't give enought to make that much difference and the true dual the same...

I'd put my 94 up against any stock LSC any day...



Posted by: vr4

Quote:
Originally Posted by mespock View Post

I'd put my 94 up against any stock LSC any day...


ill take that challenge



Posted by: torquemonkey

See ya' next year at the Mid-West meet in Boscobel.....





Posted by: 02LSE96LSC91SE84TC

My LSC will be raced this fall for sure. Unless it breaks.

I'm hoping to get it to run as fast as the LS as it sits...almost stock.



Posted by: mespock

But my 94 has Jason.. my 94 has.. LOL... now I need to get to the track and see what it can do... And this was while it still had some issues... Granted temps were cool that night but isn't that what you want?

Now I just need the experience of running it on the track like Scott had done.



Posted by: 02LSE96LSC91SE84TC

Quote:
Originally Posted by mespock View Post
But my 94 has Jason.. my 94 has.. LOL... now I need to get to the track and see what it can do... And this was while it still had some issues... Granted temps were cool that night but isn't that what you want?

Now I just need the experience of running it on the track like Scott had done.
1 14.6 pass vs. 30-40 14.6 passes 20-30 14.5 passes and 5 14.4 passes isn't exectly the same...IMO. I know its not exactly stock but the LSE doesn't fear any near stock VIIIs. I'm not saying its going to kill them, just win everytime at 1/8 and 1/4 mile tracks. Moving races I wouldn't be so confident.

Cool temps make a big difference...and never actually racing at a 1/4mile also does. Experience with a car will get the best out of it.

The plan is 14.0 for the LSE this fall technically. I just hope the LSC can do the mid 14s and should.



Posted by: Mr Wiggl3s

People are stupid expecially when it comes to cars dude, you just gotta learn to ignore them; they are the ones bashing bush every chance they get, they are the ones that buy the most expensive everything thinking its going to last the longest and they are the ones that have the wigger kids

And here my friends is how you sell a car




Posted by: Moes8

i agree 100%

oh...except the bush bashing,no one is bashing him,but just talking about his actions in office ,of course when we mention what he has done,it does sound ridiculous,but its not bashing,just facts...
is there even one person left on earth that can honestly say they still support him..


anyway,i love your gold plating,i was going to get mine done too,but i have decided to wait 10 or so more years and get mine done for free



Posted by: mespock

Quote:
Originally Posted by 02LSE96LSC91SE84TC View Post
1 14.6 pass vs. 30-40 14.6 passes 20-30 14.5 passes and 5 14.4 passes isn't exectly the same...IMO. I know its not exactly stock but the LSE doesn't fear any near stock VIIIs. I'm not saying its going to kill them, just win everytime at 1/8 and 1/4 mile tracks. Moving races I wouldn't be so confident.

Cool temps make a big difference...and never actually racing at a 1/4mile also does. Experience with a car will get the best out of it.

The plan is 14.0 for the LSE this fall technically. I just hope the LSC can do the mid 14s and should.
Still the LSC is all about bling! Not much on performance you don't get much more performance.

This issue has been discussed many time on many forums and it ends up the same every time...

Hopefully this fall I can meet you down at GLD and we can have some fun.

Your stack of time slips does show your experience.



Posted by: 02LSE96LSC91SE84TC

Quote:
Originally Posted by mespock View Post
Still the LSC is all about bling! Not much on performance you don't get much more performance.

This issue has been discussed many time on many forums and it ends up the same every time...

Hopefully this fall I can meet you down at GLD and we can have some fun.

Your stack of time slips does show your experience.
LSCs have 4 less letters on the trunk and perforated seat holes give the LSC a weight advantage...oh wait one more exhaust pipe, but no resonator...



Posted by: mespock

Quote:
Originally Posted by 02LSE96LSC91SE84TC View Post
LSCs have 4 less letters on the trunk and perforated seat holes give the LSC a weight advantage...oh wait one more exhaust pipe, but no resonator...
Hmmmm.... damn you are right.. I give... how could I ever beat that... Oh wait I could put curtins in and that would make me even faster... but then I do have 2 Cobra sticker on the rear quarter windows.. that should be good for at least 50 hp.



Posted by: torquemonkey

Quote:
Originally Posted by mespock View Post
Hmmmm.... damn you are right.. I give... how could I ever beat that...
Ummm,.... GEN II!!!!





Posted by: mespock

Oh hell no... they slowed down the Gen II's for the old guys and made them look Girlie.... (This should get Chicken going)... LOL...



Posted by: MsM8tress

Quote:
Originally Posted by mespock View Post
Still the LSC is all about bling! Not much on performance you don't get much more performance.

This issue has been discussed many time on many forums and it ends up the same every time...

Hopefully this fall I can meet you down at GLD and we can have some fun.

Your stack of time slips does show your experience.
Hey Rich..how many Marks you got.....how many are LSC's.....?





Posted by: MsM8tress

Quote:
Originally Posted by mespock View Post
Oh hell no... they slowed down the Gen II's for the old guys and made them look Girlie.... (This should get Chicken going)... LOL...
Ahhhh - we agree. I have termed the uglyness to "Town Car-ing the MarkVIII Out", flatten the dash...like a T.C....wack the consolde off....like a T.C. seat...leaning the pilar toward the passanger...flatting the dash like a T.C, I luvvvvv the bunny nose and plumbers butt and will always be jealous of those..hey I know what I need to do! Take the interior of a 1st gen and put it into the body of a 2nd Gen...ummmm LSC of course...hell ya - whos with me!!?



Posted by: chickenviii

bla bla bash our gen 2's but remember the cruise light! it adds 300hp at the push of a couple buttons, and I can see at night, not to mention our numbers are growing, hell I'm almost seeing 1 second gen a week! (and this doesn't equal looking out side and counting my own, rich) not to mention our plush~er interior you first gen's just dont understand



Posted by: Mr Wiggl3s

Quote:
Originally Posted by Moes8 View Post
i agree 100%

oh...except the bush bashing,no one is bashing him,but just talking about his actions in office ,of course when we mention what he has done,it does sound ridiculous,but its not bashing,just facts...
is there even one person left on earth that can honestly say they still support him..


anyway,i love your gold plating,i was going to get mine done too,but i have decided to wait 10 or so more years and get mine done for free
I think i ment that more of a, people just jump on the bandwagon type of deal you know?

Like when someone who frankly doesn't know anything about cars trys to sell one and overnight he turns himself into a used car salesman

While were on the subject, my personal favorite is the "I would personally". Whenever i see that or hear that i wanna just scream SHUT THE UP, because, if you would have personally done that, you would have done it. If not, then its not worth doing



Posted by: Moes8

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr Wiggl3s View Post
I think i ment that more of a, people just jump on the bandwagon type of deal you know?

Like when someone who frankly doesn't know anything about cars trys to sell one and overnight he turns himself into a used car salesman

While were on the subject, my personal favorite is the "I would personally". Whenever i see that or hear that i wanna just scream SHUT THE UP, because, if you would have personally done that, you would have done it. If not, then its not worth doing
amen brother.....

on the gen 2 front,my favorite part of gen 2's is the interior,after that the rear is ok,but the front is all wrong,but i would still take a gen 2 if i could find one for free or tradee for my gen 1,hell i just want obd 2 so i can get an excal for it



Posted by: mespock

Quote:
Originally Posted by MsM8tress View Post
Hey Rich..how many Marks you got.....how many are LSC's.....?

Don't need one... How many Mark VIII's do you hvae? I have 3... hmmmm...

Oh and chicken.... it's ok your wife likes driving it anyway...



Posted by: shagdrum

Where's the flux capacitor on that car?
Shouldn't it also be able to time travel?


Not to mention....
second (backup) transmission
blinker fluid
radiator bearings

It should also be a transformer



Posted by: MsM8tress

Quote:
Originally Posted by mespock View Post
Don't need one... How many Mark VIII's do you hvae? I have 3... hmmmm...

Oh and chicken.... it's ok your wife likes driving it anyway...
This Hottie does not need 3 Mark VIII's Rich...I have one Mark VIII LSC

Seriously, we need to combine them, the 2nd gens seats and tail lights, keep the 1st interior, and all the fast stuff, start with the LSC 1st gens body, swap out the grill for the 2nd gens (make it happen...no whining), rear tail lights of the 2nd gen headlights of the 96 LSC, adding several other swaps and keeps to the list....ahhhh the way I would love to really personalize a Mark VIII nice...we gotta do it

MsM8



Posted by: torquemonkey

Quote:
Originally Posted by MsM8tress View Post
This Hottie does not need 3 Mark VIII's Rich...I have one Mark VIII LSC

Seriously, we need to combine them, the 2nd gens seats and tail lights, keep the 1st interior, and all the fast stuff, start with the LSC 1st gens body, swap out the grill for the 2nd gens (make it happen...no whining), rear tail lights of the 2nd gen headlights of the 96 LSC, adding several other swaps and keeps to the list....ahhhh the way I would love to really personalize a Mark VIII nice...we gotta do it

MsM8
I don't want to hear about the labor pains!! Bring me the BABY!!





Posted by: marcuseightus

All that talk about 1st gen.,2nd gen., lsc or not lsc! what difference does it make? Their both great cars! But I do have a 2nd gen. lsc, So of course its the best!! The only thing I feel they should have changed was the hump on the trunk. They should have taken the hump off the trunk and but it in the back seat where it belongs!!: D



Posted by: 93' Blue on blue

Lol! i wouldnt fancy trying it in the back of a Mark VIII! Have to be a bloomin' contortionist! I am however, impressed with the trunk space. I took a snooze in there a few days ago! Needs one of those inside trunk releases like the mustangs have.



Posted by: marcuseightus

Quote:
Originally Posted by 93' Blue on blue View Post
Lol! i wouldnt fancy trying it in the back of a Mark VIII! Have to be a bloomin' contortionist! I am however, impressed with the trunk space. I took a snooze in there a few days ago! Needs one of those inside trunk releases like the mustangs have.
LOL!!My mafia friends would have a difference of opinion on that inside trunk release idea!



Posted by: 93' Blue on blue

Shouldnt matter too much for the mafia guys. I would imagine their cargo to be dead! lol. Anyway can always finish em off with a few 'gonks' of the shovel! Then bury them with it!!! Lol. (notice i have 3 shifty guys, one to keep watch, 2 to carry the 'cargo') LOL.



Posted by: MediumD

Quote:
Originally Posted by mespock View Post
I'd put my 94 up against any stock LSC any day...
As a matter of fact, I put my 94 up against my friends newly purchased 97 LSC. The only mods I have is the muffler delete, air silencers removed, and cold plugs, none of which really make a difference in power (obviously I didn't spray... no point.) From a dig through the end of his first gear was dead even, he shifted and I pulled a fender by the time I'd shifted. Through second gear, same thing nobody gained ground until he shifted into 3rd, then I put about a car and a half on him before I let off at ~100.

The 3.27s and duel exhaust didn't make up for my Gen 1's intake manifold and tune...

He wants to do the KB 2.1 kit now... (But it's OK if he does, because unless he does C heads and a whipple 3.3, I can just bring out the Apollo and put a few buslengths on him that way )



Posted by: 02LSE96LSC91SE84TC

Quote:
Originally Posted by MediumD View Post
As a matter of fact, I put my 94 up against my friends newly purchased 97 LSC. The only mods I have is the muffler delete, air silencers removed, and cold plugs, none of which really make a difference in power (obviously I didn't spray... no point.) From a dig through the end of his first gear was dead even, he shifted and I pulled a fender by the time I'd shifted. Through second gear, same thing nobody gained ground until he shifted into 3rd, then I put about a car and a half on him before I let off at ~100.

The 3.27s and duel exhaust didn't make up for my Gen 1's intake manifold and tune...

He wants to do the KB 2.1 kit now... (But it's OK if he does, because unless he does C heads and a whipple 3.3, I can just bring out the Apollo and put a few buslengths on him that way )
So what maybe a car length at the 1/4 mile mark, thats not a whole lot. Would have been most interesting if it was a Gen1 LSC/same intake.



Posted by: MERIJONS97LSC

Quote:
Originally Posted by MediumD View Post
As a matter of fact, I put my 94 up against my friends newly purchased 97 LSC. The only mods I have is the muffler delete, air silencers removed, and cold plugs, none of which really make a difference in power (obviously I didn't spray... no point.) From a dig through the end of his first gear was dead even, he shifted and I pulled a fender by the time I'd shifted. Through second gear, same thing nobody gained ground until he shifted into 3rd, then I put about a car and a half on him before I let off at ~100.

The 3.27s and duel exhaust didn't make up for my Gen 1's intake manifold and tune...

He wants to do the KB 2.1 kit now... (But it's OK if he does, because unless he does C heads and a whipple 3.3, I can just bring out the Apollo and put a few buslengths on him that way )
Thats nothing! On the way to a car show I saw a 95 Mark VIII, lowered, oversized tires in back and a blower sticking half way out of the hood...He pulled over and when into a 7-11..I seen my opportunity, I took my stock 97 LSC and I floored it! and "WHOOSH" right passed it, It never know what hit it!!



Posted by: mespock

Quote:
Originally Posted by MERIJONS97LSC View Post
Thats nothing! On the way to a car show I saw a 95 Mark VIII, lowered, oversized tires in back and a blower sticking half way out of the hood...He pulled over and when into a 7-11..I seen my opportunity, I took my stock 97 LSC and I floored it! and "WHOOSH" right passed it, It never know what hit it!!
Hmmm must have been one of those stick on Blowers LOL....

I bet he his pants...



Posted by: Moes8

Quote:
Originally Posted by MERIJONS97LSC View Post
Thats nothing! On the way to a car show I saw a 95 Mark VIII, lowered, oversized tires in back and a blower sticking half way out of the hood...He pulled over and when into a 7-11..I seen my opportunity, I took my stock 97 LSC and I floored it! and "WHOOSH" right passed it, It never know what hit it!!
come on now!!
i heard he still caught you before 3 rd gear....



Posted by: BlackMark8Li

I meant to post this but have just been too busy to. right after I posted this I e-mailed the guy saying he was a joke and full of it.. and he kept on replaying saying how his nascar buddies knew everything, and how this car is so rare because it came from the factory with lower gears. I believe he said it had like 2.63 or some low # like that whatever the gearing is.. idk but he was totally wacked and never had any real answers... just vauge inputs... I made so many good points and he made none.



Posted by: MERIJONS97LSC

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come on now!!
i heard he still caught you before 3 rd gear....
OH OK! HE DID, AND HE HAD A CUP OF 7-11 COFFEE IN HIS HAND!!



Posted by: Moes8

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OH OK! HE DID, AND HE HAD A CUP OF 7-11 COFFEE IN HIS HAND!!
didnt even spill a drop did he?
a true pro....



Posted by: MERIJONS97LSC

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didnt even spill a drop did he?
a true pro....
AND IF THAT WASN'T BAD ENOUGH HE HAD A PA LICENSE PLATE..." OH CRUEL WORLD!" SORRY MOES I COULDN'T RESIST! LOL!



Posted by: mespock

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OH OK! HE DID, AND HE HAD A CUP OF 7-11 COFFEE IN HIS HAND!!
He also stopped in to the bathroom and checked out the new Playboy before he took off.. LOL...

Oh and marcuseightus - Get rid of the hump... oh no no no no no...

"You have to have hump in the trunk"

But as to your other statement about they are all great cars.. you couldn't be anymore correct. It's just fun having these little threads to play with...

But I would like to Kill Calabrio for putting life back into that damn yellow Mark VIII... made me my pants again.



Posted by: Moes8

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Originally Posted by MERIJONS97LSC View Post
AND IF THAT WASN'T BAD ENOUGH HE HAD A PA LICENSE PLATE..." OH CRUEL WORLD!" SORRY MOES I COULDN'T RESIST! LOL!
no problem.





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