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2 Marks...High & Low.

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Posted by: JC1994

a pic comparing the two... I got my kits from american air. soon my 96 LSC will look like it should.



Posted by: 98LSC32V

Why don't you just sensor lower it if the air ride is still good? The air ride is big part of what makes a Mark VIII a... Mark VIII.



Posted by: GMAN

I can't even tell the difference myself between the air and the springs.



Posted by: JC1994

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Originally Posted by 98LSC32V View Post
Why don't you just sensor lower it if the air ride is still good? The air ride is big part of what makes a Mark VIII a... Mark VIII.
rides and handles better without air ride that's why.



Posted by: 98LSC32V

I still think you should keep the air ride in the 96 LSC... you already have your 1994 modified Mark VIII for handling, the 96 LSC is one of the rarest Mark VIII's you can find and if you want to improve the handling with the air ride you can get an Adco rear sway bar and 03 Cobra shocks...



Posted by: turborich

Keep the air! I like both of your painted black grills! The cars look better that way IMO.



Posted by: MediumD

I'd imagine an air ride car with a Module 8 or similar could handle pretty well when lowered..



Posted by: JC1994

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Originally Posted by 98LSC32V View Post
I still think you should keep the air ride in the 96 LSC... you already have your 1994 modified Mark VIII for handling, the 96 LSC is one of the rarest Mark VIII's you can find and if you want to improve the handling with the air ride you can get an Adco rear sway bar and 03 Cobra shocks...
True.... but that is what I like so thats how it will be. I am saving all my air-ride parts anyway.



Posted by: seanklsc

Please tell me thats not stock air ride height. Oh my god...

Anyone in the NYC area wanna help me with lowering ?



Posted by: JC1994

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Originally Posted by seanklsc View Post
Please tell me thats not stock air ride height. Oh my god...

Anyone in the NYC area wanna help me with lowering ?
yep, that is stock ride height.



Posted by: JC1994

Hmmmm... no sig pic again???



Posted by: JC1994

what is up with that?



Posted by: GMANjr

from what i can see, its seems the one in the back is sitting a little lower then the one in the front. looks very nice



Posted by: 98LSC32V

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Originally Posted by GMANjr View Post
from what i can see, its seems the one in the back is sitting a little lower then the one in the front. looks very nice
Yea, it's the 1.5 drop coil conversion from American Air Ride suspension for $425.



Posted by: JC1994

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Originally Posted by GMANjr View Post
from what i can see, its seems the one in the back is sitting a little lower then the one in the front. looks very nice
yep but I only paid 399.00 for mine and 400.00 for the Continental's kit.



Posted by: JC1994

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Originally Posted by turborich View Post
Keep the air! I like both of your painted black grills! The cars look better that way IMO.
Thanks, T-Bo... me too.



Posted by: 94m5

Lookin good JC.....



After a rebuild of my 95's front suspension, I reverse all of my previous statments about it riding like a log wagon, and never doing the coils again.

LOVE LOVE LOVE, the way it rides now.


Mike



Posted by: KC96LSC

I own a 96 LSC and there is something wrong with your 96. That is not stock height. It looks like someone did something to the front sensors. Also, I have ridden in an American Air Mark VIII and by no means is it better than air. NO WAY. I honestly think everyone that does the conversion wants to convince themselves that it's better. If I spent that money to change things over I would want to believe the same. Or, American Air will send you $5.00 back for every positive post about them. I'm not sure which one it is. but something's up. JC double check that front end something isn't right. Hate to say this but I like yours better than mine. I was looking for black interior when I bought mine. But, didn't want to lose out on the chance to buy mine at the time. (LT/Graphite Interior)



Posted by: mespock

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Originally Posted by JC1994 View Post
yep but I only paid 399.00 for mine and 400.00 for the Continental's kit.
You don't want to know what I got mine for?

And I agree the conversion makes a much nicer handling Mark VIII plus no more air ride problems! $$$$$$$....



Posted by: Iszi

I think the "stock height" coil conversion is at the "city driving" height for a Mark that still has its air ride, which is 0.8" higher than the "highway" or "parked" height.

To see what I mean, take a look at a stock Mark VIII (with stock air suspension) when the car is off, then turn the car on and wait for the air ride to pump up. You will notice a difference, and it won't be pretty. Hence the reason I went with the 1.5" lowered kit (0.7" lower than "highway/parked" height) when my own air ride died.



Posted by: 94m5

I did'nt say it rides better....................



I'm talking about the difference in handling. Oversize sway bars front and back, and performance struts and shocks with 275/40 rubber on all 4 corners.

Ask Chicken, or brent how it handles.


Mike



Posted by: turborich

Quote:
Originally Posted by KC96LSC View Post
I own a 96 LSC and there is something wrong with your 96. That is not stock height. It looks like someone did something to the front sensors. Also, I have ridden in an American Air Mark VIII and by no means is it better than air. NO WAY. I honestly think everyone that does the conversion wants to convince themselves that it's better. If I spent that money to change things over I would want to believe the same. Or, American Air will send you $5.00 back for every positive post about them. I'm not sure which one it is. but something's up. JC double check that front end something isn't right. Hate to say this but I like yours better than mine. I was looking for black interior when I bought mine. But, didn't want to lose out on the chance to buy mine at the time. (LT/Graphite Interior)
It looks like stock ride height to me. My 95 was way up in the air when I first got it too. Every (stock) Mark that I have ever seen sits a bit higher in the front. Maybe yours was lowered a bit? As far as the air ride/coils go, I still have the air ride. I personally like it, others like the fact that once you install coils it's all done. If I couldn't work on cars and had to pay a mechanic then I would probally go with coils to avoid the headache of the air ride but I do work on my cars and I don't see anything hard about keeping the air ride in good shape.

coils vs. air = ford vs. chevy or lincoln vs. cadillac!!!



Posted by: mespock

Same here my 95 road high until I ajusted it.



Posted by: JC1994

Quote:
Originally Posted by KC96LSC View Post
I own a 96 LSC and there is something wrong with your 96. That is not stock height. It looks like someone did something to the front sensors. Also, I have ridden in an American Air Mark VIII and by no means is it better than air. NO WAY. I honestly think everyone that does the conversion wants to convince themselves that it's better. If I spent that money to change things over I would want to believe the same. Or, American Air will send you $5.00 back for every positive post about them. I'm not sure which one it is. but something's up. JC double check that front end something isn't right. Hate to say this but I like yours better than mine. I was looking for black interior when I bought mine. But, didn't want to lose out on the chance to buy mine at the time. (LT/Graphite Interior)




Posted by: KC96LSC

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Originally Posted by JC1994 View Post
I've seen a lot of marks sense I have owned mine. I've had it 10 years and I have never seen a stock mark set that high without something being wrong. It looks like there is 5 inches of gap. I just replaced my front upper a-arms yesterday and that's what mine looked like with the sensors were not attached to the upper a-arm. I'm sure you already checked that though. Just trying to help you out. I won't make that mistake again.



Posted by: JC1994

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Originally Posted by KC96LSC View Post
I've seen a lot of marks sense I have owned mine. I've had it 10 years and I have never seen a stock mark set that high without something being wrong. It looks like there is 5 inches of gap. I just replaced my front upper a-arms yesterday and that's what mine looked like with the sensors were not attached to the upper a-arm. I'm sure you already checked that though. Just trying to help you out. I won't make that mistake again.
sorry you feel that way, no insult intended... I just don't need your input in this situation that's all.



Posted by: MediumD

Well this is a forum, where everyone can post whatever they want related to the topic at hand, so if you post something on a forum expect people to talk about it.

Here's my input... you're a dick, insult intended.



Posted by: JC1994

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Originally Posted by MediumD View Post
Well this is a forum, where everyone can post whatever they want related to the topic at hand, so if you post something on a forum expect people to talk about it.

Here's my input... you're a dick, insult intended.
Listen up anus breath, I don't need peoples input that is aimed at changing my mind about what I intend to do with MY cars. I don't like the air ride at all on these cars so I removed it, get over it and try to move on with you lives.



Posted by: mespock

Hey let's be nice... time for a group hug...



Posted by: mespock

Quote:
Originally Posted by KC96LSC View Post
I've seen a lot of marks sense I have owned mine. I've had it 10 years and I have never seen a stock mark set that high without something being wrong. It looks like there is 5 inches of gap. I just replaced my front upper a-arms yesterday and that's what mine looked like with the sensors were not attached to the upper a-arm. I'm sure you already checked that though. Just trying to help you out. I won't make that mistake again.
Maybe I haven't read enough or missed something but it could be aftermarket front struts? My 95 rides at the same height in town drops nice on hwy, does drop some but not to the curb height my 93 did when it still had air ride on her.

I do have after market front struts on my 95... damn china $hit... from Arnott I didn't put them on it...

Also as for the debate on air ride or not.. it's a matter of opinion. I have standard height conversion on my 93, 1.5 lower conversion on my 94, and air ride on my 95.. I like all but to me once the damn air ride start to cost to keep it up I'd rather end the pain in the pocket book and go to the conversion. Better things to spend my Lincoln Mark VIII money on...

I hope I'm not considered a bumb @ss for that.. (shut up Frogman LOL I tried a search for dumb @ss and didn't find anything LOL)



Posted by: JC1994

meanwhile back to the thread..... I put my 1.5 drop kit in yesterday took me about 2 hours with no help. as usual.... car looks and rides, handles much better than it did, I got my kit from American Air Suspension, thanks Eddie, It's a Strutmasters kit, the front kit now has Monroe Sensa Tracs. these work much better than the Gabriels that came with the kit I bought for my 94 about 2 years ago.



Posted by: BlntdEyez

I've got the stock hieght conversion on my car one day im going to swtich to the 1.5 lowered or maybe back to air ride



Posted by: chickenviii

Quote:
Originally Posted by JC1994 View Post
meanwhile back to the thread..... I put my 1.5 drop kit in yesterday took me about 2 hours with no help. as usual.... car looks and rides, handles much better than it did, I got my kit from American Air Suspension, thanks Eddie, It's a Strutmasters kit, the front kit now has Monroe Sensa Tracs. these work much better than the Gabriels that came with the kit I bought for my 94 about 2 years ago.
lets see both those viii's on the ground



Posted by: JC1994

here's a quick pic of my 96 LSC. after the drop.



Posted by: mespock

They look real nice JC



Posted by: JC1994

thanks Rich... here's 2 more...



Posted by: BlntdEyez

If I've got the stock height conversion and i want to change it to the lowered can i just contact eddie and swap out the coil springs?? BTW your pics didn't work.



Posted by: JC1994

I can see them just fine....



Posted by: BlntdEyez

first time i looked i couldnt see it now i can though



Posted by: chickenviii

looks good, so did you get 2 sets of cobra r's of just swap them off one car to the other



Posted by: Sergmark

Looks Great Much better lowered



Posted by: JC1994

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Originally Posted by chickenviii View Post
looks good, so did you get 2 sets of cobra r's of just swap them off one car to the other
yeah, I took them off my 94 so I could see how they look on the 96.



Posted by: mespock

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Originally Posted by chickenviii View Post
looks good, so did you get 2 sets of cobra r's of just swap them off one car to the other
No he's got the set split between the two cars...



Posted by: 98LSC32V

Nice... the 96 LSC has a proper stance now. Does the kit come with sensatracs for the front and the back?



Posted by: GMAN

Sensitracs on the front.



Posted by: rmac694203

Yep you gotta go get your own shocks for the rear. Kit comes with coilovers for the front and just springs for the rear.



Posted by: chickenviii

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Originally Posted by mespock View Post
No he's got the set split between the two cars...
but, it would be backwards, you want the nice rims on the "curb side" so everyone you pass would see the nice rims!! lol





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