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All Eyes Have Got To See This!!!!

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Posted by: NateRW21

Okay, I'm a pretty passive guy usually; rather laid back and things don't get to me too often. But this whole "RIMS" thing is driving me nuts. If you can find me a reputable dealer's website which refers to them as "RIMS", I will be more than happy to apologize. But until then, don't make yourself sound less intelligent than you are, call them what the ENTIRE rest of the industry calls them; WHEELS!!! No tire store, custom shop or wheel company calls their products "RIMS". Do everyone a favor, call it a wheel when you are referring to the entire object; when you have a bend on the "lip"... then you are talking about the RIM. Correct terminology will go a LONG way to making you sound like you know what you are talking about.

You could come in to a custom shop and say in PERFECT English "I would like to buy a set of 18" RIMS for my car and have you put them on" and still sound like a very unaware car owner. OR you could go in speaking in total ebonics and say something along these lines "Playa, I gotta have those WHEELS in 18 Inches... 8 five wide wit tha 5 en 108's" and sound MUCH more knowledgeable than Mr. English Major. I'd even be happy with someone calling them Dubs or whatever... at least you wouldn't be addressing the entire wheel by one specific part of the wheel. It's like saying "I've got a nice, brand new, painted red door." When you actually are talking about a nice, brand new painted red CAR.

Thanks for being understanding and altering the manor in which you refer to those round pieces of metal that the tire wraps around!

Posted by: 06AtlantaLS

What difference does it make?? You and the rest of the forum know what they're talking about when they say rims.

Posted by: NYC LS8

Seriously, who gives a rat's ass?

And FWIW, Will Castro from Unique Autosports calls 'em rims. Yet to hear him say "we gonna wheel up that guys ride".

Posted by: NateRW21

Quote:

Originally Posted by 06AtlantaLS

What difference does it make?? You and the rest of the forum know what they're talking about when they say rims.

What difference does it make? The difference between sounding like someone that doesn't know ANYTHING and someone that is informed. Also, tell me how much sense this makes: "I just put those new OZ rims on when I hit a pot hole and bent the rim on my rims. Thankfully it was only the outside rim of the front rim because I steered clear after the first rim hit."

Doesn't this make much more sense?:
"I just put those new OZ wheels on when I hit a pot hole and bent the rim on my wheel. Thankfully it was only the outside rim of the front wheel because I steered clear after the first wheel hit."

Simple, you sound like you know what you are talking about.

Posted by: owlman

Dude we should race doors i bet my door will kick your ass. Hmm, I like it!

Not all slang has to make sense...

Posted by: Frogman

I have to agree with Nate on this one.

It's a Wheel, not a Rim. Unfortunately, in the quest of sounding, acting and being cool, "rims" sounds cooler, I guess.

I'll call them wheels till the day I die. Whenever someone I deal with calls them Rims, I take my wheel and tire business elsewhere.

Is that a little drastic? Maybe. But it's my money.

Posted by: itsnotmydaddys

Wow you actually made time to write a whole thread about this and write a couple paragraphs on this. Maybe you should turn on ESPN and watch some basketball or something. Let me guess your in another forum starting a thread about "pop", "soda", "cola" and "coke". People may say "I'm thirsty for a coke", then go order a Sprite. Its just a term to generalize a certain group. This isn't about correct grammar or proper English. I'm from the most wealthy part of Missouri and I say rims. Its all about how you were raised and what era you grew up in. Many different terms have changed from era to era and "rim" is one of those terms. It doesn't mean someone is a moron, it's just different between different areas, states, countries, and people. There could be hundreds of debates just like this one if we took a group of 16 year olds, 25 year olds, 50 year olds and 90 year olds, over time words pick up different meanings, it's just how this country is. Just my .02 cents

Posted by: mont

Realize that not everyone is as "wheel" intelligent as you. I'm going to make an assumption here and say you work at some sort of car store, which if that is the case just quit your job. Realize that not EVERYONE cares about proper terminology when they are in the market for something that makes their car look good, not sound proper. As the previous poster above me said, its really all about where you come from and once again just like the 24's thread, its ALL PREFERENCE.

But, I will agree with you on something here, I have also been getting annoyed lately on this forum. I am in no way directing this towards you because of your topic, but honestly though is there really a reason for Making All Your Beginning Letters Capitalized Throughout Your Entire Post?

Posted by: Frogman

This thread is going nowhere fast...

To each his own, I guess... But when I hear wheels called "rims", my respect for the speaker's tire/wheel experience goes into the toilet. That is not to say the speaker has no experience with them in general. But in my eyes, they dont have any experience when they call wheels "rims".

oh well....

Posted by: mont

Quote:

Originally Posted by Frogman

This thread is going nowhere fast...

To each his own, I guess... But when I hear wheels called "rims", my respect for the speaker's tire/wheel experience goes into the toilet. That is not to say the speaker has no experience with them in general. But in my eyes, they dont have any experience when they call wheels "rims".

oh well....

It's not going anywhere because this is supposed to be forum where you can ask for help on various subjects, find previous threads that have knowledgeable information, or discuss general LS topics in general. There really is no reason to post a thread about something so minor that annoys you which as we've seen, only leads to unneeded arguing. No one in this world is perfect, and there will always be those people that you encounter during life that make you ask yourself, what the hell were they thinking? It's just best to keep those type of comments in your head.

Posted by: Frogman

The hell are you talking about, skippy? I'm not the one who started/posted this thread.

Keep my comments in my head? Huh? What I do with my comments is my own business. They are my opinions, and as it turns out, I happen to be an EXPERT on my own opinions. I know, I know. You're as shocked at that news as I was... alas, I will speak them out loud WHEN I feel like it, to whomever I feel like it.

Posted by: 95Pred8r

You're all kidding, right?

Posted by: lseguy

Quote:

Originally Posted by NateRW21

Okay, I'm a pretty passive guy usually; rather laid back and things don't get to me too often. But this whole "RIMS" thing is driving me nuts. If you can find me a reputable dealer's website which refers to them as "RIMS", I will be more than happy to apologize. But until then, don't make yourself sound less intelligent than you are, call them what the ENTIRE rest of the industry calls them; WHEELS!!! No tire store, custom shop or wheel company calls their products "RIMS". Do everyone a favor, call it a wheel when you are referring to the entire object; when you have a bend on the "lip"... then you are talking about the RIM. Correct terminology will go a LONG way to making you sound like you know what you are talking about.

You could come in to a custom shop and say in PERFECT English "I would like to buy a set of 18" RIMS for my car and have you put them on" and still sound like a very unaware car owner. OR you could go in speaking in total ebonics and say something along these lines "Playa, I gotta have those WHEELS in 18 Inches... 8 five wide wit tha 5 en 108's" and sound MUCH more knowledgeable than Mr. English Major. I'd even be happy with someone calling them Dubs or whatever... at least you wouldn't be addressing the entire wheel by one specific part of the wheel. It's like saying "I've got a nice, brand new, painted red door." When you actually are talking about a nice, brand new painted red CAR.

Thanks for being understanding and altering the manor in which you refer to those round pieces of metal that the tire wraps around!

Can I still say dubs?

Posted by: 9enisP

I found a better forum for you. Spread some knowledge there.

http://www.englishforums.com/English...ms/Forum29.htm

Posted by: NateRW21

Quote:

Originally Posted by itsnotmydaddys

Wow you actually made time to write a whole thread about this and write a couple paragraphs on this. Maybe you should turn on ESPN and watch some basketball or something. Let me guess your in another forum starting a thread about "pop", "soda", "cola" and "coke". People may say "I'm thirsty for a coke", then go order a Sprite. Its just a term to generalize a certain group. This isn't about correct grammar or proper English. I'm from the most wealthy part of Missouri and I say rims. Its all about how you were raised and what era you grew up in. Many different terms have changed from era to era and "rim" is one of those terms. It doesn't mean someone is a moron, it's just different between different areas, states, countries, and people. There could be hundreds of debates just like this one if we took a group of 16 year olds, 25 year olds, 50 year olds and 90 year olds, over time words pick up different meanings, it's just how this country is. Just my .02 cents

Well, you made another good example of the same thing; COKE is either a brand or a specific type of soft drink. Case in point; if you say I'm going to go get a coke; that means a coke. Not a mountain dew. But that's aside the point. It's about sounding like you have some kind of knowledge base. People don't call spark plugs "electrodes" even though a spark plug has two electrodes.

Posted by: NateRW21

Quote:

Originally Posted by mont

Realize that not everyone is as "wheel" intelligent as you. I'm going to make an assumption here and say you work at some sort of car store, which if that is the case just quit your job. Realize that not EVERYONE cares about proper terminology when they are in the market for something that makes their car look good, not sound proper. As the previous poster above me said, its really all about where you come from and once again just like the 24's thread, its ALL PREFERENCE.

But, I will agree with you on something here, I have also been getting annoyed lately on this forum. I am in no way directing this towards you because of your topic, but honestly though is there really a reason for Making All Your Beginning Letters Capitalized Throughout Your Entire Post?

I agree with your second paragraph... however:

Realize that not everyone is as "grammar" intelligent as you. I'm going to make an assumption here and say you work at some sort of school, which if that is the case just quit your job. Realize that not EVERYONE cares about proper capitalization when they are in the market for something that makes their car look good, not sound proper. As the previous poster above me said, its really all about where you come from and once again just like the 24's thread, its ALL PREFERENCE.

And no, I do not work at some kind of car store. I have been a mechanic in the past and it makes you look about as smart calling an entire wheel by the name of one section of the wheel as capitalizing the first letter of every word.

Posted by: LSVIPDEMON

I cant believe I'm wasting my time but, why the hell is this even a thread and what sense does it make....so you hate that word being used in poor context....well I hate when people call crayfish crawllfish....what does any of this have to do with this forum.....I actually hear some people that sell wheels at shops for a living use the blasphemous word RIMS when selling as well. I hate it but I never devised a plan to raise anarchy against it.

Now some people do make improper use of the term but waste space posting bulletins on myspace or something. Or even better how about the "wheel" forum.

Some one close this crap out....

Posted by: MonsterMark

I prefer to call them TSS (Tire Support Structures).

Posted by: Iancusp

lol wat a bunch of anal old guys
u say tomato i say tomaato

get over it as long as were all on the same pg

Posted by: LSVIPDEMON

Haha....someone moved it to where it belongs....oh and older spoked wheels where called rims for the simple fact that they are hubs laced to a rim.
people didn't care as much then obviously as there was not much to it just a few wooden spokes and a "RIM". The word wheel was of course used before the invented vehicle but to describe "solid" round masses such as grinding wheels for the black smiths.........

That sparks a question in my mind...what was it originally called.....would you moc the inventors original name seeing how he invented it.

Posted by: NYC LS8

Quote:

Originally Posted by NateRW21

But that's aside the point.

It's "beside" the point.

Quote:

Originally Posted by NateRW21

It's about sounding like you have some kind of knowledge base.

Pot, kettle, black.

Posted by: NateRW21

Quote:

Originally Posted by NYC LSC

It's "beside" the point.

Pot, kettle, black.

The discussion is about calling a wheel by a specific part of the wheel (that being the rim). Not a grammar mistake that occurred after I ran my IE based spell check.

Posted by: NYC LS8

Quote:

Originally Posted by NateRW21

Quote:

Originally Posted by NateRW21

The discussion is about calling a wheel by a specific part of the wheel (that being the rim). Not a grammar mistake that occurred after I ran my IE based spell check.

Really now.

Posted by: LSVIPDEMON

You guys should check out his other posts.....calling the forums worthless....LOLOLOLOLOL......

Posted by: LSVIPDEMON

God I just realized......shouldnt this be in off topic seeing how this guy went so far off the topic....change it again that was funny....send it to a off topic page.

Posted by: Roadwarrior50

Quote:

Originally Posted by NateRW21

The discussion is about calling a wheel by a specific part of the wheel (that being the rim). Not a grammar mistake that occurred after I ran my IE based spell check.

I thought that you were making the point because gramatically speaking...the rim refers to just the rim of the wheel instead of the whole wheel.
But im with Iancusp and 95Pred8r. Who really cares what you call it. Everyone here knows what it being talked about, if something like this gets your panties in a twist i cant imagine what would happen if something happened to REALLY piss you off.

Posted by: northstar11

Dont be an ass ( or should I say buttocks)

Posted by: 06AtlantaLS

dont refer to rims/wheels as 20s anymore either guys...that's a number or unit of measurement, not a RIM!!

Posted by: LSVIPDEMON

Did you mean.... not a wheel?

Posted by: 06AtlantaLS

lol, yeah. thanks for correcting me. i wouldn't want to sound stupid.

Posted by: StincolnLincoln

lmao. RIMS RIMS RIMS RIMS RIMS RIMS RIMZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ RIMS...lmao imgaine going into a big time shop and saying hey fella how much for those 24" wheels.. that makes me sound so cool.. i think i am to wheel up my continental lol.. word up son!!!.... who cares what you call it if i owned a shop most young people would come in calling them RIMS anyway. wait i cant sell you those rims try these wheels on for size lol... anyway i just felt like posting because this is funny 2 me.

Posted by: decibels5

Without a rim, there is no wheel. The tire would just come off. Look it up. here I did it for everyone.

Verb
rim, rimmed, rimming

to lick the anus of a partner as part of the sexual act.

Posted by: Frogman

Eh. It all comes out in the wash. Most of the older guys are more about performance and most of the younger kids nowadays are more about RimZ y0! and bling bling.

"Performance? Yeah, I gotz me some mad tyte performance, yo! Check it out! I gots my 24" Rims, my thumping stereo and yo! Check it out! My 12" screens in the trunk! I gots me 500 lbs worth of stereo gear! I got an intake an exhaust, but I'm still getting

ty mileage. But who cares, right? I be looking coo' rollin' down the strip on my 24' rimz and thump my stereo! Bitches dig that

, y0!"

Unfotunately, you can't change a generations' language or state of mind.

Now I realize not every snot nosed youngster talks that way. But it has been my experience that most people with 20+ inch wheels thumping stereo and the like on their cars are nothing more than an attention whores.

Posted by: decibels5

I guess I am in the middle age group. I have 20s and performance mods. Say what you will about tvs, lambo doors, etc etc. I have all. When I go to car shows, I get the respect of elders and youngsters. Judges of all ages appreciate the work I have put into my car. There is such a thing as overdone, My car is borderline, but it is my show car and it serves its purpose well. And yes I like the attention. Kind of comes natural, I guess. Love competitions and having nice things.(varies by opinion). I have just come to the conclusion that the Ls is a small, heavy, semi luxurious, slow (even with stock wheels and no system), overpriced, under valued, out of market, discontinued (cant even get my floor mats from the dealer), poor quality car, AND I LOVE IT. As for the RIMS issue, come on, I deal with all types of people through out the day. The only thing certain in the world is change. That goes for speech too.

Posted by: LSVIPDEMON

I'm with this guy...

up there....but um Frog Man? wouldn't adding superchargers and turbos and blowers take away more gas mileage than any wheel size....or most performance mods in general....YO! and not everyone who is into these things is so YO this Holmes and Yo that Biggy or bling bling "as you stated"...Im a metal head and I have a sweet LS on 20's and I blast deathcore from my LS I even want to cut my speakers up cause metal sounds even better that way and I leave my windows up cause I know others hate it and the last thing I want is attention cause attention also brings the fuzz..... I hate rap and I hate the way gangsters look at me in my LS cause Im not a G my self but that again, its a stereotype...not to start bashing each other on this thread as well but dont you think that is a bit to stereo typical? Oh sorry decibles5 but I do not agree with the doors tho....I just think they look disgusting on 4 doors but I do love em on 2 doors. Someone needs to figure out a suicide door for the LS like its Late great Grandpa.....This might be a bit to extreme for me but maybe even Lambo the rear the opposite direction....or the same, its just ....there seems to look like somethings missing with this conversion on 4 doors.

The rest of the non stereo typical stuff and the bashing on wheel size I do agree with frogman....and where does that name come from anyways????? do you keep cool things like dendrobates and stuff ( type of dart frog).

OH yeah........LOL...RIMS RIMS RIMS RIMS RIMS RIMZZZZZZ.......LOL........maybe we should call them rolling apparatus..sorry for going off the topic.

Posted by: Frogman

Quote:

Originally Posted by LSVIPDEMON

I'm with this guy...

up there....but um Frog Man? wouldn't adding superchargers and turbos and blowers take away more gas mileage than any wheel size....or most performance mods in general....

Shows how much you know about actual performance mods... 'nuff said about that.

ps. Superchargers and Blowers are the same damned thing. No, It's not like "wheels" and "rims". The Rims are part of the wheel, not the whell itself.

Posted by: LSVIPDEMON

So a whell is different from a wheel!!!! Oh my god this changes everything in life what should we do!!!! NOOOOOOO!

I did know that idiot..to my understanding altho some older car enthusiast that got muscle cars call them BLOWERS and most newer car people cll them SC's or super chargers you realy must have been hurt in life I wasnt even trying to be a dick this time..... stupid. and how about my actual question what can you say about that Dr. Phill? Shows how much you know about what your even saying . Once again like I previously stated ...nothing but bashing from this guy......

at least rims dont sound as dumb as whells....whells whells whells whells whellzzzzzz

And "'nuff said about that. " tell me you aint trying to be Dr. Phill?

Posted by: Frogman

Are you arguing with me because you got butthurt over your silly door panels question, or are you arguing with me because you have nothing better to do?

Oh, and before you go picking on someone's typo, why don't you make sure your text is propely typed and spelled? A couple of sentence structure classes wouldn't hurt signing up for either.

You're right though. I really don't know jack about performance mods. You busted me.

Maybe I'll go get some F1 style mirrors, some 20" rimZ and be cool like you...

Naaah! I'll stick to actually being able to GO fast, rather than just look fast.

Posted by: LSVIPDEMON

First off I thought it was clear that the beef was left in the other thread and was trying to be nice, second off...I have been using the spell check provided and I dont pick on anyones spelling usually cause I have bad spelling myself...but if you deserve it I'm giving it to you..third I didn't say you know nothing about performance mods so yes I busted you...I said you dont even know what you are saying cause it made no sense at all nowhere in there did you say NO PERFORMANCE MODS DON'T USE MORE GAS. Or YES IT MAKES YOUR MILEAGE WORSE...I admit openly you probably know more than me about mods.....And why do you think that the mirrors and rims make a car look fast if the wheels are so bad on gas and everyone knows it, how does that make a car look fast? YOU SUCK AT LIFE...get over the fact you might be good with cars and I do respect that but YOU SUCK AT LIFE...Im right you are wrong and way off topic this is about "whells" and "rims" will you just admit this and stop the stupid ranting and raving?

Posted by: Frogman

Ranting and Raving?

Go away!... Or I shall taunt you a second time!

/the frenchman.

I didn't have to say most perfomance mods don't use more gas. It's a widely known fact.

Oh well. If you can't beat'em, join 'em...

Word, who's got some cool RimZ?

Posted by: LSVIPDEMON

Your chuck wagon thats stranded on the prarie needs bigger rims than that.

Posted by: jrockcentral1

I just got out of the cellar [basement] and washed my hands in the faucet [sink], and was on my way out to the porch [deck] but decided to stop and read this thread instead.

In case your interested I always say what's in the brackets

Posted by: Frogman

My "chuck wagon" does just fine, thank you very much.

Posted by: StincolnLincoln

nice chuck wagon now go wash it lmao....and make sure you clean the RIMZ..oops i meant WHEELZZZZ!!!...good looking truck damn i miss working at Leif Johnson Ford i got to drive those trucks every day WOAA!!izzzz me lol...

Posted by: Frogman

Oh, I'll wash it... in the summer time.

Till then, it's kinda pointless to do so with all the mud we have around here.

Posted by: StincolnLincoln

man i love those ford trucks especially the ranch edition

Posted by: HyeLifeLS

This is one funny thread.... Damn I miss my rims.

Posted by: StincolnLincoln

oops i meant King Ranch Edition..

Posted by: Frogman

Figured that's what you meant. Mine is just an XLT. The KR's are sweet, but for all te abuse mine sees, a KR edition would have been unwise.

Besides, if I want luxury I can drive my Mark.

Posted by: Anthony77

Rims, Wheels, what difference does it make? I think 99% of the people will know what your talking about anyway.

On a another subject : Why would anyone in their right mind have a Picture of Dr Phil when they post?! Maybe, just maybe I could understand if it were a little lady posting, but a male, no f!@#king way!!

Posted by: Frogman

Oh please... Get a monitor witrh decent enough resolution and read the yellow text. It will make sense to you then... maybe.

Besides, I'm secure enough of my manhood to be able to display a picture of Dr. Phil. Goofy as he may be. You see, I have nothing to prove to anyone by putting up a picture of say a firearm, or god knows what else in order to make me feel secure about my "manliness". Are you secure enough to do so? Or are you the type who just hides behind criticism?

Posted by: MonsterMark

Quote:

Originally Posted by Frogman

Oh please... Get a monitor witrh decent enough resolution and read the yellow text. It will make sense to you then... maybe.

Personally I love the avatar. Although everytime I see it I hear Dr. Phil reciting it in my head.

Posted by: budx2002

Huh?

Posted by: Scorpio1118_2000

I will just throw you all for a loop and just call them, dem thangs. lol! lo!l lol!

Posted by: workin_ike

Quote:

Originally Posted by NateRW21

you could go in speaking in total ebonics

You are right on grammer but refering a wheel as "a rim" is ebonics. So, you, not considering rim as slang is just a weak arguing point.

I know this post is old but im new in the forum and got a kick out of this one.

Posted by: Kevin O'Connell

Whee! OK, my freakin' turn!
Frogman- you ought to know that the French have a whole society of people that are dedicated to preserving the french language in its pure form.
I congratulate them on being precise and accurate in the way they express themselves through language. I've got better things to do!
As a person working daily in an engineering type of environment, I know the importance of conveying ideas accurately to prevent errors. But when I'm benchracing with my buds and suckin' down a couple coolies, slang has its place. My old hot rod truck is Holleyed, Malloried, comp cammed, hookered, B+M'd and runs slicker than two eels screwin' in a bucket of snot! So dere!
Ebonics is a whole 'nother matter..... who be you be do be talkin' 'bout den?
Not moi!

Posted by: slowmkviii

I worked in a tire shop for years and I cant rember a person ever trying to by just a rim and not the wheel. They mean the same thing
would you try
a

would like to by a set of rims for my car
b: ok I have a nice set of wheels here that will fit
a: no I just want the rims not the wheels
b: oookkkk They sell them down the road at the wagon repair shop

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